Dood! you got a reply? damn they must hate me, mabey the way i worded it? :)
I also accused it of being faked, but got no response.
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Dood! you got a reply? damn they must hate me, mabey the way i worded it? :)
I also accused it of being faked, but got no response.
Wheeeewww! I was beginning to think ATI was dropping the ball and I would have to stay with NV. My dual head SLI phase cooler won't fit between those slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
I have seen both the standard board and the dual "SLI" version, I even touched them both and yes both were working.
Hopefully not long to wait now ;)
Well then.. How much room do we have between the graphics cards? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
You mailed fudo ?Quote:
Originally Posted by IRQ Conflict
I didnt expect an answer from him =)
What does he mean with "used for upcoming product" ?
They gonna photoshop stuff on their product boxes from now ?
Then why not make 8 PCI-E slots and say its for upcoming products =)
I heard grouper was on E3 but they say it wasnt running there ?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
I GUESS they are real close to release both version, single and some SLI version but then why use photoshop on a box ?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=63351 :hehe:
Perkam
No I hit the 'Flame Author' button at the bottom of the article, I suppose it went to Faud, or thier complaint dept. aka paper shreder ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
I suppose if Sapphire were responsible for the pic (I doubt it) it may have been they didn't have an multi vid board on hand and had to mock it up for E3. Purley my speculation though.
I use Paint shop, eisier to fake stuff ;P
Why not 12 32x PCIe and we'll call it a day :)
When is the ETA, i need to know if i can survive w/o a real computer for much longer...my new case/psu is waiting! :D
What's your price range for one of these?Quote:
Originally Posted by AMD-me
Perkam
So long as the PURE board (single gfx) is under 150 bux ill be game.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
I could care less about AMR, jes get me that sexy board :D
Will be avaible within coming weeks according to Sapphire.
Actually it only has to have similar performance and NO boot/dead hardware issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
If it does it will get alot of attention even though it's behind.
I will say for certain, that if this thing runs close ( or better, we don't know) to a DFI NF4, I will certainly buy 1 just to save the headaches.
And my guess is alot of other folks will also.
JMO
:banana::banana::banana::banana:..i might have to wait for my upgrade then :(
but this board will kick some ass :evil:
Quote:
Originally Posted by muzz
this is true, but for every 1 that have a DFI with dead hardware issues, there are 25 happy customers.
but it is true when you ssay that most people still looking to go for 939 will get this over a dfi if it performs similar with no hardware issues. however i dont think that too many will switch from DFI.
As we all know here the DFI NF4 is an EXCELLENT clocking board, when it's running.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
I do NOT believe that this board is a really big seller OUTSIDE of the enthusiast community(I could very well be wrong), so IF what I think is true, to me that means most of whats going with this board is being discussed in the community ( unlike other boards that EVERYONE buys).
1 out of 25?
I dunno about that #, I see thread after thread after thread regarding cold boot issues with this board.
I am USUALLY of the thought that only folks with problems come to these boards to sort them out, but thats regarding the average board....
Not this one.
JMO
Great board when it's running, but there ARE issues here, no doubt in my mind.
My FSP Blue Storm, and Lian Li pc-7plus SE are crying for some hardware :D
For every post in this forum with a problem, which is USUALLY user error (i was once one of them too), there are at LEAST 50-60 boards sold.Quote:
Originally Posted by muzz
1 in 25 is a very low number IMO. I know 4 friends that all have one, along with me, and they all have worked 100% perfectly out of the box, even using a venice. :stick:
DFi's QA is doing great now. Now we just gotta hope sapphire can keep up :D
So a dfi lanparty is a good enough board i guess. I guess, I'll give up and buy a DFI :(
when i said 1 in 25 i waws giving a very low #, i am sure the number of happy customers is far greater then this.
Was once one of what?Quote:
Originally Posted by dippyskoodlez
I agree that problems with boards/hardware have a very high tendency to be user error ( barring hardware issues of course), and have stated this many times over the years.
The polls that I see are alot worse than 1 in 25, and thats in the enthusiast community, where a better % of folks actually know what they are doing.
My board ran mint until I decided to take out my VCard, and then reinstall it, so maybe folks that build it, get it running, and leave it are having better luck.
I dunno man, as I stated it runs great when it feels like booting, it is THE board for AMD performance as of right now period....., but there are alot of folks having issues with it not booting.
Here's to a quick and awesome debut of the Sapphire, they have the cards stacked against them though thats for sure.
Back on topic....here's a press release on the board(s):
http://www.sapphiretech.com/pressrelease/Pure.pdf
Quote:
PURE Performance!
Developed primarily for the PURE Performance enthusiast, the specifications for the Sapphire
PURE mainboard line have been chosen to give the user maximum flexibility in performance
optimisation. Built using high quality components to provide stability, providing support for high end
hardware options such as Dual VPU support hardware and offering the capability for BIOS
performance tuning, the PURE product family reaches new heights in desirability for the PC
platform. Equipped with the latest ATI Express-200 chipsets it offers support for the latest socket
939 AMD Processors.
repostQuote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
:wierd:
:D But yea this board does look impressive, but i broke down and purchased a DFI.
Only becuase of the dual vpu support part. We want this board why? dual maybe...Quote:
Originally Posted by AMD-me
I think they used the word "pure" once or twice too often heh :zombie:
Because ATI > Nvidia :DQuote:
Originally Posted by cadaveca
FYI-TuL AX480A-GF Socket 939 RADEON XPRESS 200P ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813190003
FIY - message above is about the "old" or regular board, NOT the enthusiast board this thread is about
Have a look here at the new ATI based boards which will be on display at Computex
- VR-Zone article
- Sapphire Computex Invite with product info
- DFI has an Lanparty UT RD480 board on display here
where the RD400 is intended for Dual Graphics MB and the RX480 is for the OC/Enthusiast in shiny white color
http://vr-zone.com/newspics/May05/26...novationMB.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by LostInTennessee
From newegg:
Quote:
South Bridge ATI SB400
From first post:
not the right board.Quote:
-Azalia audio support via SB450 using Realtek codec
OMG....... :slobber: Count me in, with crossfiring of coz......... :D
Crossfire = :cool:
Now i hope it works better than SLi :D
*Cough*Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
EDIT: Meow.Quote:
where the RD400 is intended for Dual Graphics MB and the RX480 is for the OC/Enthusiast in shiny white color
Perkam
Does anyone know if the title of this thread can be changed by now???
To something along the lines of:
Sapphire Ships Radeon Xpress 200 Enthusiast Board @ Computex?
Wait till next year and we'll be able to slap a 'computex 2006' sticker on it. :fact:
Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
uh, no, we were both wrong. you tried to say i made up that RD meant radeon dual and RS radeon single. Greyskull said i was right, but wrong about RS meaning radeon single, as RS means radeon shared. RX stands for radeon xpress.
Boy, you're what, 18, maybe? Must be to let that make your head so big. :fact:
and you said this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grayskull
which was not entirely right either.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
the first chipset released was the rs480, not the RX, and the chipset in this white board is the RS480,not the rx, as you can see by this bios shot posted earlier by bigtoe.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=31691
pls don't jump down peoples throats if they make a mistake. it's impossible for anyone to know EVERYTHING. :fact:
:toast:
from what I am reading about the crossfire cards - you can only run an x800 master with an x800, and only an 850master with x850? that true? if so - suck! I have a good XL (check sig heh heh) but when I saw that x850 master cards would be well above $500, and x800xl masters $300, I grabbed an x850xt since I found one really cheap, planning to go with x850+x800xl in crossfire. So now it is looking like I would need to get the $500 master card - or sell the x850 soon as it gets to my door, keep the XL I have, and get an XL master. sheesh, I just wanna plan!
Now why would you go buy an x850xt non master card if you already knew that you would need a special mastercard in order to run crossfire? Seems a little ignorant to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by __TRONIK__
Sell the XT, wait for XL mastercard.
because when the master cards were first announced, no one said anything about them only working with specific cards. IE no one said you needed and x800 master to use an x800 slave, and so forth. that announcement came later. I didnt want to go with 2xXL and didnt want to pay $500+ for an x850 master, so getting the Xl master and a slave x850 made the most sense - until it came out you could not use them ogether, days after I got the 850.
and I bought my x850 when I did because I expected, and still expect, that crossfire compatible slave cards will spike in price, just like SLI capable cards did when SLI was imminent. and the x850 was $350, which was the lowest I have seen yet and the lowest I expect it will be for a long time.
and don't go calling me ignorant. I've probably forgotten more about overclocking than you'll ever know about it. .
soooo since i have a x800xl, i can only buy a x800xl master card? I thought one of the advantages of AMR was that we can use any combination of ATI master and slave cards.
that's the word, though crossfire news has often been premature and contradictory. either that, or you are ignorant. one of the two.
I hope Sapphire designs their Crossfire offering with the kind of generosity DFI and ASUS has. Primarily, plenty for space between the Crossfire slots and 3 x PCI slots :p:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Reheat/DFI.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Reheat/Asus.jpg
I agree, I hope they do, and I hope it is a killer board, but with DFI in for ati chipsets now, how likley is it sapphire, a n00b in making mobos, delivers a board that outclocks DFI's? I say not very, and expect the DFI to be my next motherboard
From all of what I've heard, we might have to wait at least a month for these :( ...and in that time, more will go Ultra-D when they lose patience. Which I cant blame them for, but its a shame.
I just hope some of non-crossfire versions of these boards are priced around the ultra-d price structure...which was brilliant :)
Perkam
I dont think they are entirely noobs. I judge them based on their outstanding graphics cards. Sapphire has always been my choice. Since they are one of ATI's biggest ally, I am sure they worked very closely together to come out with a kick ass mobo that would benfit all 3 parties - ATI, Sapphire, Consumers. This way, ATI and Sapphire will have a flying and highly recognised start........ :D
I'll be more patient and will wait the 2 months it will probably take the boards to hit the shelves. DFI burned me once in the NF2 days with their craptastic boards and so bad Euro support. Now seeing their NF4 boards are still plagued by the same old probs aka cold boot and sudden death, plus they now kill ram :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
No DFI for me :nono:
:stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by LowRun
They;ve sold 4x as many NF4's as NF2's, and most boards, are without a single issue...
I too was burnt with the NFII's... 4 infinitys and a LP A... :stick: I absolutely love, and wouldnt hesitate to get another NF4, though. 3 mobos without a single issue so far. :D
I am very interested in this Sapphire board. Does anyone know whether this board is matx size? I have an Antec Aria collecting dust that I want to install this mobo in. But from glancing at the mobo pics it's not matx size. This mobo has 5 pci expansion slots as opposed to the standard 4 expansion slots of a matx mobo. Any clarification is greatly appreciated. I do hope they make a matx mobo version though.
So still no retail availability of the enthuesiast board? :slapass:
This board is full atx. MSI makes a M atx you can buy for the Aria But with no OC options.
Any news? My DFI SLi-DR is messing me around so I want to try this ATi board!
Concorde
Still no news on any ATI-based chipset motherboards???
bigtoe and sampsa have interacted with ATI and Sapphire recently and according to representatives......these mobos are very close to launch and Press boards are already available and we can expect review samples soon......they will be most likely be out by August if not early September :p:
We can see them Crossfire mobos here courtesy of ATI :D
Can anyone see a difference between the MSI MS 7194 and the TUL RD480 Ultra?Quote:
Originally Posted by Afterburner
Yup! one is definitely inverted from the other!
Hint: It's upside down :fact:
check it out :D
It's about freaking time... Now has anyone spotted this for sale anywhere?
Me still waiting for intel xfire mobo :(
Perkam
crossefire doesnt really interest me, so expect me to be the first in line for grouper.
i wonder how the onboard sound works compared to creative stuff....
what does everyone think of the SB used on the Grouper... from the Anandtech article it looked like IDE performance was nice but SATA, USB, Firewire were all MUD
I'm not really a fan of xFire or SLI either but I'd rather wait for the xFire board in the hope it comes with a new SB... if it doesn't I'm happy to wait longer
any updates?
check back next month. lol.
Can someone confirm that all Sapphire AMD board based on the ATI chipset will have the same overclocking options?
On this shot the 150MHz divider is missing, this isn´t very handdy if it come to be true :/
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/...emtime-new.jpg
Any updates on this puppy?
I have been away for quite some time and tryed browsing the 31 pages as best as possible but couldn't find any release information. I plan to build a new rig soon and I really like this board. Thanks, peace.
Quote:
Originally Posted by KoNiaK
i think thats the anand shot, in which case i believe they used a clawhammer, which wouldnt have all the new dividers.
Linkage...Quote:
Originally Posted by VeryProudOfYa
Sapphire PURE Innovation Gruper Radeon Xpress 200P (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-001-SP)
Arriving early September 2005 ..
Sapphire PURE CrossFire Radeon Xpress 200P CrossFire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard
Arriving Late August 2005
:confused: Huh - so they will release a crossfire board one month earlier and the "normal" board later ??? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by split
:eek: :eek: :eek:
the one thing i expect is when will the board released in Germany , and HCC are u too ? :D
:D Doesn't really matter to me - since I know the FX-59 will be made for socket 939 again and there will be a X900XT (with what ammount of pipes God only knows) I will keep my board.Quote:
Originally Posted by xs64
:p:
Dividers are board´s features, nothing to do with the chip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
^actually rev e A64's have more divider options iirc.
hence the unofficial ddr500 support in rev e's
fusking nora, them specs are pretty badass
Any retail sitings yet?
nope lol...
a this point they should just scrap the whole project, i doubt it will sell to well unless its priced under $120 or so...
Pre Order http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Sapphire.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by BRiT
Sweet! I think I might actually pre-order one these guys... :p:
Maybe I will wait for a couple of reviews or so, who knows? :D
jesus, almost a year after anand reviewed this board and still nothing in retail. What excuse now?
uhh anand reviewed it last month...