bios/battery issue? My infinity was pushing 3.5v to my BH-6 when set to 3.3v once for some reason.. no vmods done to it then.
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bios/battery issue? My infinity was pushing 3.5v to my BH-6 when set to 3.3v once for some reason.. no vmods done to it then.
Aha. I thought you were talking about the battery trick to up your vdimm. Can be an issue too, in case the board cannot supply a stable high vdimm (had some Infinity boards like that)...Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
some update... :)
6-19 3D Fire R2
Change Log from 6-19 3D Fire:
1) SATA Bios upgrade to Version 5044
2) CPU Disconnect Function Patch
3) Side Band Addressing Enabled
4) PCI Latency 128clock
5) EXT P2P Discard Time 1ms
6) LAN Latency 128clock
7) SATA Latency 128clock
Download Link
http://www.tictac.katrourke.com/bios/DFI-N...9-3DFire-R2.zip
Important Notice!!! :)
You must enable SATA in bios. I inject it through SATA Bios.
If you have problem booting into windows After Bios boot....
Restart ... go into bios and Disabled SATA...
It will boot fine to windows
If this problem occured please report it to me. Thank you
One thing to Audigy or sound problem. I think is not Audigy 1 problem. This message Audio switcher out is all audio output, not only Audigy. Where is a problem? That problem have only my? Its verry uncomfortable problem. I run any important programs and in the middle upsss > audio switcher out and no sound . Must restart. Thats gonna make me crazy.
@tictac, any idea how this bios will effect performance over the hellfire rev3?
ive always had good luck with the HF/1-21 bios' but i dunno maybe this will help the board be more consistent...
ill be the guniea(spelling?) pig here i guess....
Quote:
Originally Posted by ex.treme
Hehe... yeah, sound problems are not very seldom with these NF2 at high clocks.
Soon you will have my board/cpu in your hands (if you still want it :D) and maybe it gets better (I do hope so)... :thumbsup:
I have no idea how it perform compare to Hellfire / Merlin / Evilous modded biosQuote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
anyway here is the bootup logo in that bios
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/atta...=&postid=46790
thats cool, im still not home :(
hopefully ill have time tonight to load it up... i just hope this bios makes stuff more consistent ya know?
SAE: i wanna :banana: and hope too
Hi all :)
i have purchased a DFI Infinity from about a week.
I'm, for now, satisfied... But i want to ask a question regarding this mobo
Is there a software that concern me to view VDD voltage from windows? MBM seems not do this...
Thanks for help :)
read through this guide. the software in unreliable. use a multimeter. points are on first page of this guide.Quote:
Originally Posted by FireFoxII
there isnt VDD monitor on the board, hence the bios not showing VDD and no software reading it out to you...
hey, newegg is out of LPB mobos so they cant rma it. they are just giving me my money back. so should i just get another LPB from zipzoomfly or should i get a NF7-S?
First off: Welcome to the sickness :DQuote:
Originally Posted by FireFoxII
And referring to the vdd readout the other are fully right... sad but true. You have to reliably measure with a DMM.
When u've used LP B u surely DON'T want to switch BACK to NF7-S :D ...Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
Get another one :stick:
or should i hold off on the DD and just water cool a nice 64bit nf4? like what chip would i want and would i need a new video card since i have a agp?Quote:
Originally Posted by Massive
At least i saw the 2650 :D
http://mitglied.lycos.de/Esox80/3.jpg
Without any mosfet cooling etc.
Will come soon if i have time! :rolleyes:
Hey Esox, my friend :)
:thumbsup:
Up the vcore to 1.85V and it should work ;)
i`ll try :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
you could ask them for an infinity...
same board really...
From my experiences the Lanparty boards are better in general, but DFI themselves officially deny it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
really?
ive always felt that the difference was non existent, and the TW boards were the good ones...LP or not...you have much more experience then me though. :)
Hehe, I've had 7 Infinities (two TW ones) and 5 Lanparty Bs (three TW ones)... and I can say for sure, the China boards sucked compared to the TW ones, and the LP B boards beat the Infinities :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
damn, did you sell them or kill them hehe?
i wonder what the differences are, from a design standpoint they are the same in the important stuff, maybe they pick better clocking NB's?
who knows...
Hey guys. You have Xp or Win 2000 system? ( Which S.pack)
How is best for overclockers?
win2000 SP2 is best for 3d01 IIRC...
i use XP SP1...
hey SAE, get your NF4 yet?
from where? :D
I did not kill them, they killed themselves :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
I sold most of them... :D
They should be the same, but maybe they differ in component quality ;) (not officially, the newer nf3/4 boards have superb japanese caps, iirc)
No, I am still not sure where to buy and what vid card (have to wait for the money from board/axp and x800 though).
I really wanna get an FX, but it's not available here... :(
@SAE
FX55 750 € at Ebay ;)
Where? :D
:D The only one I see so far at EBAY, pre-used:Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
FX-55
Viel Spass !!! :toast:
Hmmm... right... nothing at Ebay. It was one or two weeks ago... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
got my new LPB today...another damn china....how do i keep getting those? 3 out of 3 now are chinas....hmmm should i see if someone has a taiwan or just see what this china can do under water and phase change?
like whats better about the taiwan boards....higher FSB?
Better stability (waaaaayyyy better) at high fsb together with high vcore/CPU speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
That's about it. :D
But some of these china boards are good though, LORD (a great clocker on AXP too) had an excellent one once.
how did you get a taiwan? luck?Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
i cant find any of them!!!
i have taiwan chipsets...that count?
I thought your current board was a CH board wasnt it SAE? the one with 263x13?
aorry stealth my first and only TW board was the first and only infinity i boughtfrom newegg.
stealth17 - from witch shop you get china one? :rolleyes:
PS. both my LP B mobos was china made. One can do 225x12, and other, with the very same components, just killed it's own bios, when I try the 225x12 settings, so... ;) Even then china boards have some weak pieces and some very good ones.
It's overclock. Your mileage may wary... :stick:
Anyway, one (the better one, of course... :cussing: ) of my DFI LP B is dead as brick now, after the capacitor mod + 6hours of work, and that it is. No power led light anymore... :brick:
Quote:
Originally Posted by trodas
The china ones are the lesser boards, the TW are the better ones usually.
my friend is gonna do some moding on my dfi nf2 this weekend
http://forums.moops.tk/showthread.php?t=11 <- ALL mods OK here ?
should i be carefull of anything ? 10x
Hmm... first off: what's he planning to do? I mean, which mods... that's important to know for giving any kinda hints.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
Furthermore your link is dead, it seems. :p:
nope link works
well i want:
vdimm 3.6v max
vdd (do i need more then 1.9v?)
vcore and ocp....so 2.00v is stable...
anything else ?
VDD is not helpful in my experience, seems different for everyone though.
it was a big gain for me. i hit 265 compared to 255 w/ out it...you can tell if ya need it just by seeing if your fsb does better at 1.6 or 1.9 (or in between). id say if it better at 1.9, then go for it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
1.6 to 1.8 did help me sata wise, 1.9 even more so, but not past that, i dont get SATA corruption at 1.9 ever it seems.... something else always craps out first at those high speeds.
vdd, I have at 2.15V. That should suffice.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
For all the smd mods (ocp, vdimm) - be careful not to lift the smds (vdimm) or to break them off (ocp)? For ocp, just unsolder both sides not leaving any rest of ceramic on the solder pads.
yeah i lifted the smd on my vdimm mod, it was a real pain getting it back on right.
i did my vdimm from the underside...works AWESOME!
Great idea, stealth :thumbsup:
I never lifted that smd though ;) But I often heard of people doing it accidentally.
wish i would ahve thought of that stealth, i am always worried that i didnt get great contact on that smd and in turn lost stability...
I just purchased one...This thread is going to be very usefull
All the feedback on here is unreal to say the least
Once again..another awesome thread at Xtreme! :toast:
Nice, we have another new DFI-user around! :thumbsup:
If you got any question to ask... here's the place, of course :D
Saw this on post 178
Is this tru? I will only be able to get 2.2? No way no how?Quote:
You just won't get 2.1V stable (minimum) as these boards can give 2.08V stable max... and that's with all the mods
Looks like some one did 2.15 with a:stick:Quote:
47K variable.
Thanks Sae I appreciate the feedback :toast:Quote:
Mine can do 2.24V. You only have to be able to cool the board and its components!
Mine can do 2.24V. You only have to be able to cool the board and its components! :D
@ tictac
I love you m8...
i was having trouble getting 200x12.5 stable on HF last bios, it just kept getting worse every day, so i load up your bios, figuring WTF? and i got 200x12.5 with 1.825vcore and stock nb/ram/agp, something i couldnt do with 1.9v for some reason just a moment ago, hopefully your bios will be more consisent the the HF bios, as on the HF bios my clocks just got worse and worse it seemed like.....
thanks again!
another update 250x10, a setting i couldnt get booting right tonight (thought inf was having a bay day like it seems to do every day or two) and now im there rock stable with much less voltage.
tictac :thumbsup: :toast:
just goes to show you every board and chipset is different!
indeed your right sir, i go to plug in my cdrom as to run memtest, and 250x10 no longer goes into windows, and 200x12.5 hardly stays alive in windows for long, so i unplug my cdrom and the problem is still there...
just when i think im making progress...
ok so heres a very strange issue indeed:
for those not following my situation - so i had it running 272 2-2-2-11 2x256mb cpc on 3.6v about 2 weeks ago, i lost that oc, and i figured it was just my board actung up, as 250 was stable...
so then i lose 250, and eventually 200...i switch to tictac's bios, and 250 works, i plug in a cdrom to run some memtest, and bam, 200 at 3.3 doesnt even work...
...so i tried everything (including reseating) and i couldnt get 200mhz stable even at 3.3v
so i decide to put in my 1gb KHX3000 set into banks 1 and 3(also BH-5)
i ran that fine up to 235 mhz 3.3v and i knew the board was fine, so i was sad and i figured my good BH was dead...
i decided to run them each on their own to figure out which stick was bad, and bam, both sticks run 250mhz 2-2-2-11 cpc 3.3v on memtest5 stable...
i pop both sticks in (tested in all banks and got same results with single stick) in banks 1 and 3, as this is all my cooling setup permits and poop, 250 3.3v get 20000+ errors, and 200mhz 3.3v get about 500 errors..s
so im at a big wtf right now, im really happy my ram isnt dead, but this sucks, wtf is going on here?
try a different ide connector, try slots 2+3, swap ram around so whichever is in 3 is in 1 or 2.
Typical issue of DFI NF2! All I can say. I mean, I don't know it in such drastical way (200MHZ fsb not stable), but something similar.
Sometimes I got a stable 269MHz at 11-2-2-2-2.0-12-16-e-e-f-e-2-0-3-3-1-0-3, I could even do superpi32m, and then next day I had problems running a stable 260. Hehe, seems to be weather-dependant ;) (and may reflect the mood of the board :D)
yeh i have the exact problems and some days can get 200 stable! others days i can run 272 semi stable! It pisses me off how its like that! i want to switch to nf4...its either switch to nf4 and sell my old stuff and not have phase-change or its stick with what ive got and get phase change....anyone shed some light on my problem?
ok so i eneded up remeoving all my ram sinks (i spent days making them :()
and running in 2 and 3, problem didnt go away...
few more hours later, much more experimenting, turns out i had too much voltage for 200mhz, but these dimm that used to run 200 at 2.6 no longer will(needs 2.8 now), and 250 i couldnt get stable as 3.3v wasnt enough (something these dimms used to do well)
so i memtest 240 for a bit, no problems, and now im back at 250, somehow not erroring at all with 3.3v
funny how im happy to get this right now and im not even at my old 24/7 clocks lol...
Seems to be the board, my khx bh-5 first did 260@3.34V, now they were demanding 3.56V (my standard voltage). If I decreased vdimm it went unstable. Weird nf2. :D
same here
i used to run my khx3200 bh-5 200@ 2.6v at start...now even 2.8v doesnt help
weird i can't even boot anything below 3.1v now.....LOL
i just did the following mods (all at once :) ):
vdd
vdimm
vcore
OCP
vdroop
and all were a success! the ocp was the hardest as there isnt much room to work and the pads are a pin points distance aways from each other but i nailed it! i cant wait to see the results with my new OCZ 600watt dual rail psu!
Gluck, mate! :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
haha didnt help...Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
weird man i dunno what happened. the thing worked for a day, then the next day (today) i turned it on and cpu voltage was going from .5v to 1.7v and wasnt letting the thing boot...i was like WTF??? thenit would sometimes boot and freeze in bios...so i was getting upset...put a different psu in and same thing...then i put it on the bench and something by the cpu socket burned for no good reason! i have no clue what happened...especially since it worked for a day flawlessly!...
hmmm im upset with DFI..
so im ganna RMA it and get my FOURTH motherboard and then sell it....more than likely will buy a NF4...you get your NF4 yet SAE???
Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
Man, I feel with ya :(
Too bad you could not locate the error...
And no, I did not get my board, as I ordered it - together with my FX - and they're waiting for it to arrive. *sigh*
And then, I would be still waiting for my sweet vid card I'll get from saaya (I'll pay for it - don't ask him for one :lol: ). Hope my waiting won't last forever and a day... it's a pain!
it wasnt my error...the board killed itself :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
im ganna get a DFI NF4 and a 3000+ to play with...the FX are soooo damned expensive!
Yep, that's correct. FX are expensive... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
one of your solder joints could have gone bad on the ocp maybe? that mod scared me way to much, i cant afford buying the irons that would make that job easy, i just have cheapo $5 iron with a big fat tip lol...
new info on my board, i got 10.5x250 rock stable at 2630, so then i backed off the multi to 10x, and i went for 263, now ive been keeping the vdd at 1.8 because more didnt seem to help, but for some reason it just started working, at 1.9vcore, 3.6vdimm, 1.8vdd memtest had 20k + errors, so i up the vdd to 1.9 and bam, 20errors at 3.4vdimm, more vdimm doesnt help, nor does more vcore, so im plugging my vdd mod back in now...
quick question, is it safe to run without a videocard for the purpose of checking voltages? my 9800p cooler sits right on top of monitoring points...
some more good news ot slighlty, upon remounting my 9800p cooler with better screws, and the vmod off, i hit 450core without artifact in 2k1, previously 430 was max... :) almost at 22k with this thing, and thats only with 250mhzx10 on a really bad install of win xp.
im getting excited, i used to think this board was quirky but now more and more i am learning about it the more i realize that there is a reason for its behaviour, i really didnt expect such a large project when i performed these vmods, but im sure glad i did, as ive learned much! :)
Revv, it'S safe to measure without vid card, I sometimes even measured with out ram, vid card and cpu :lol:
Just to be safe not to kill any of our precious' ;)
bah i went all the way up to 2.2v and couldnt get it error free in memtest, with the mod on im setting it to 1.7 in bios giving me 2.0v...
couldnt get 263 stable unfortunatly, i think i need to tweak as to have .5 voltages, im feeling like the boardd cant handle 3.6v and 3.55 isnt enough...
last thing is maybe my cpu cant handle the FSB, ive noticed amount of errors seems to be a few lower with slightly more cpu voltage, though more then 1.925 was increasing errors, rigs in my HOT basement now, usually rig is in a nice 60 degree room, and now its in like 75, so maybe thats it...
another thing i will try is maybe going back ot the hellfire rev3 bios... man another sleepless night of overclocking ahead heh...
Rev3 was most excellent one... :thumbsup:
ive noticed that sometimes if you run memtest and get say 75 errors, then run it again it will give you a different number the second time....kinda makes it hard to tell if more or less voltage is helping...unless the error difference is significant
Yep. Best is: errors equal 0 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by stealth17
But if errors during longer memtest sessions occur, there may be a heat problem... cooling the ram better is a good idea ;)
ive always thought that and some frown on the idea for some reason :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
get my NF4 tommarrow!!!! :D :slobber: :p:
Good luck pal, and don't fry it on first day :lol:
Mine comes with the FX-55, and that's gonna last... :( (already payed, but still not available)
I just ordered my NF4, maybe in two weeks?
i got some issue overclocking my DFI LPB with 2-2-2-11-9-12-1T timing even at 200MHz
Proc : AMD Aplebred 1600 (tbred A)
Mem : TwinMOS SP 2 x 256mb Vdimm @ 3.3V in bios
vdd = 1.7 v
v agp = 1.5v
The board run fine if i use it. But if i leave it for awhile(20-30 minutes) with heavy load. It just freeze .... :(
@ tictac - my board never ran 200mhz 3.3v stable, i always though it was the ram... but maybe SP has the same problem...try 3.2v maybe?
or maybe try 2-2-2-11-13-15-1t?
i let it prime and go to sleep... when i wake up... system is freezing... prime show it is stable for 3 hours ... :-/
ok i will try loosen the timing
got my DFI NF4 and 3200 winnie yesterday...VERY nice mobo! got a bad cpu stepping but ill see what i can do with it. Running good temps. 21c full load but thats at stock so...
yeah, try 2-2-2-11-13-15.. some have mentioned ch-5 having issues at 9-12.
ive always used 13-15 anyways, seems more stable when i get up top in FSB.
BTW my NF2 i think is dead, hasnt posted in a day or two...
seems normal for those crappy nf2...go nf4 man! LOVE mine!Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Hey... i just did the Vcore mod on my DFI LPB... with just a pencil trick...OMG... it works :hehe:
tictac Pencil Vcore Mod
1) you only need to pencil down this resistor i mark with yellow color...
2) The resistor value is about 100 ohm
3) pensil it down to reduce the resistance.and you will get higher Vcore voltage
4) i pencil it down to 90-95ohm
5) now when i set 1.55v Vcore in bios i get 1.6V (0.05V overvolt) :D
Tested by me... on my DFI Lan Party B
Happy Tweaking... ;)
ignore that 2 red & black wire :slap:
http://www.tictac.katrourke.com/pic/...Pencil-mod.JPG
Tictac, do ya notice stability problems now? Or is it as stable as before using the 2V setting? :)
oh great.. now I want another infinity lol.
i cant play with 2.0V vcore with stock cooling & tbred A... its too hot to get it stable :bsod:Quote:
Originally Posted by SAE
anyway i have been priming for 5hours... and it is stable so far... still running & kicking ass :lol:
Cool, mate :thumbsup:
BTW, what fsb your running those Twinmos at? :)
@ tictacQuote:
Originally Posted by tictac
What do you mean with "pencil down"? How does this work? :rolleyes:
decrease resistance of the resistor because the graphite the pencil lays down re-routes some of the electricity.
Ahhh ... and where do i have to draw with the pencil? The whole resistor?
just from one side of the resistor to another, start small and then check and see how much voltage your getting, then put more lead on it until your where you want it...
thats awesome btw tictac...very nice work sir...
im rebuilding my whole rig right now in a an effort to get it going, things arent looking good though.
Along its side. :) (one side, it's equal which you chose)Quote:
Originally Posted by Esox
Fine :) Thx!
Hello guys, i have annoying problem with my infinity.
I can do till 285 3D stable but is only single channel.
First i had 2x256 hynix d-43 and max 250 3-4-4-x.
All above that = errors in memtest + 3D crashing to desktop.
Now i have 2x256 adata tccd and it is worse...... max 245 3-3-3-x and higher is the same - memtest errors + 3D crash after 5s.
I have tested VDD 1.6 - 2.3V = nothing (5 mhz in single),
alpha all combinations ( more or less errors) slew rate = nothing, Vmem 2.6-3.3 = nothing.
Now i'm waiting for BH6 (256 2-2-2 3.3V tested) but i'am afraid history will reply..
Have someone simillar problem to me ? Is board crappy or fussy or maybe memory bad chosen. I have no idea :confused:
(my english is bad, i now, sorry)
IMO hynix and tccd are da cr@p :D No, honestly, on NF2 boards they do suck! :(
BH-6 should serve ya well though, mate, I hold thumbs :up: for ya.