I love Pi also and its a great way to test ram. Sub 6 is very fast indeed.:D
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I love Pi also and its a great way to test ram. Sub 6 is very fast indeed.:D
6m4secs is still a long way off though, ill have to learn some tweaks to get any closer
Or you could use abit more vcore ;)
You said Abit, don't make my cry.:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniper
####### New Beta F7e Bios is out on tweaktown #######
Yeah,just received from GB Taiwan and they give me green light to post.
How is the new beta bios ?
Hmm...C-N hasn't posted back :(
Hope the new bios is ok...
He he... I'm hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
It runs.... haven't tested stability but everything looks the same as F5x & up. I haven't looked to see if getting into bios with AHCI enabled is still buggy but can tell you PLL override is still there. Load line level 1 output is still the same but level 2 overshoots big time 1.35 in bios gave 1.416 CPU-Z idle rising to 1.5 in under load then rebooted the rig so don't use it. I'll have a proper play tonight but in all honesty I don't think I'll find any more performance out of it over F5x & as I don't have any running problems probably wont find any fixes either. I'll also give my Hypers another run & see if 2133 still freezes up.
They also upped the max multi to 59 in this new bios.
Are the cold boot problems still there? (especially after unplugging the PSU?) Or sometimes after trying to change bios settings with PLL enabled?
Did is the Gigabyte has confirmed that it intends to introduce full UEFI implementations (friendly graphical interface with 1024x768 resolution,support mouse,more languages - Asus efi bios currently support 6 languages ,Msi efi bios support 15 languages and other efi features )) to their bios the socket 1155, AM3 + and future sockets ??? because for now uses it hybrid efi bios.
http://gigabytedaily.blogspot.com/20...37625918667235
quotation from page http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=3761#ov
DualBIOS™ 3TB+ HDD Support (Hybrid EFI Technology)
Hybrid EFI Technology combines the benefits of GIGABYTE's mature BIOS platform including stability and compatibility with 3rd party products with 3TB+ HDD support from EFI technology, allowing GIGABYTE to offer the best of both worlds through a quick and easy BIOS update using GIGABYTE's @BIOS utility that is freely available from the GIGABYTE website.
one could surely do with the Bios would be chip version of the classic elements of efi bios and full efi bios with support for mouse-friendly graphical user interface, support for multiple languages.
Did Gigabyte hybrid efi bios, running in 32-bit or 64 bit mode and is immediately available to boot the system, all memory. If your motherboard bios P67 B3 operates in 16 bit mode and is available for the latter only 1 MB of memory??
F7e runs exactly as F5x upward for me performance wise, max bclk, latency & pi are all exactly the same as previous bios's..... wonder what has been fixed/enhanced!!!
My Hypers still lock up on the 2133 mem multi
Waiting for a list of changes in this new bios. By the sound of it, no memory improvements.
F7e - I noticed an improvement. Now I can start the computer with the option LLC level2 enabled. :rofl:But it gives BSOD.
Did you miss my above post? Your chip is getting a voltage spike!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jacek
"Load line level 1 output is still the same but level 2 overshoots big time 1.35 in bios gave 1.416 CPU-Z idle rising to 1.5 in under load then rebooted the rig so don't use it"
Tooling around with voltages just for fun tonight & figured I'd try to see how low I could run 32M @ 5.5GHz, Switched to 2 core & was like :shocked:
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...R2215W732M.png
Oh yeah much better on the juice. Pi really only needs one thread any way so test each core and bench with the best one. Nice chip.:up:
Well I found a set of hypers that actually plays nice with this setup. I never could get my super talent 2000 c7s to run decent on 1:8 but these sticks have no problem, its a 3x1 dom. gt kit.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...81/domtest.png
Same here, my Super Talent 2200 CL8 just wont run 2133 for sh1t.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoss331
They run on the 1866 divider just fine between 1800 ~ 1834 @ 1.72 ~ 1.76v, havent tested 32M at 1866 but they do run/get into windows.
Looks like I need to find a Corsair SPD & flash these suckers!!!
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...830665201T.png
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...834665201T.png
Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
Well if that does the trick be sure to let us know. :up:
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Originally Posted by C-N
Very interesting... I was doing some high multi Pi benching and max frequency testing yesterday with my 2500K (~ 1.6v+)... I much prefer the idea of keeping the volts lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by flesheatinvirus
I've got a new Gskill 2133 8-9-8 kit inbound so I'm hoping to improve things a little.
Like FEV said Pi only needs 1 thread so why not.Quote:
Originally Posted by PolRoger
Which board are you on atm??? the Asrock?
I like my 8.9.8's they run great well worth the money I'm sure you'll get a boost out of them.
Sitting on the UD3P motherboard today, is it worth the extra cash to get a UD5 instead when the new B3 comes in stock?
Last week or two just the Asrock Pro Fat... my TP67XE died and I'm waiting on new B3 stock to come in so I can exchange. Today however I just received the new MIVE "b3" so I'm currently learning a new BIOS. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
I take it you are talking about upgrading to the UD5 when you change out your UD3 to get a B3?Quote:
Originally Posted by ante_ante
I would say it depends on whether you are happy with your SB clock or not. If you are still seeking more performance then why not try another board. If it were my decision I'd have 2 ways of looking at it the outcome would most likely depend on a snap decision. My first thought would be to upgrade kidding myself the UD3 owes me nothing & I'd be getting a new UD5 for cheep & my second thought would be keep the UD3 i.e don’t spend any more money on SB as Ivy is on the way.
He he you love shiny bits don’t you!! I'd be interested to hear what you think of the Fat. It looks a good board & I think If I could get one it would make a great 24/7 home server to replace my DFI X58. I've purchased it twice online & twice had my money refunded as Asrock pulled all the stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by PolRoger
I am setting up my B3 exchange right now. Doing an advanced rma. Lets see how long this takes!
Hey guys,
I still have a B2 in the box because I am waiting for my GTX580. I didn't feel like RMA because I do not use the bugged ports.
Is B3 only changed on the SATA300 or also on other points? Will future BIOS work on B2? I am way too lazy to go to the store so if it works it's all the same to me.
I would advice you to RMA it anyway because later you might not be able to do it and the SATA bug might be a problem when trying to sell it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ctgilles
C-N .. just wondering about your hypers @1067mhz.
do they also freeze 32m on w7 ? what about P95 on W7 ?
if you get 32m errors from lowering vdimm on w7, and not freezing then looks like same issue i have with my corsair
my OCZ don't freeze on vista 64 and XP, but > ~1050mhz on XP my corsair freeze 32m unless i raise vdimm up to similar level that ocz needs.
the corsair is higher bin than ocz, so the corsair min vdimm seems due to 'other' factors (idk :D)
also my corsair won't run @ default vtt, only @ 1 step lower (was your tip)
i didn't find an elegant solution for XP, just vdimm to avoid freezing 32m :yepp:
btw, tried f6e bios
apparently my chip now boots 2 extra multi before i need int. pll enabled.
1.5v vdimm setting is fixed (now just normal overvolting)
I just built up my DFI X58 again last night for something to play with when I get round to packing my P67 up for RMA, Just need to contact GB to see if they can do some sort of cross ship thing in the UK/Europe or whether I will be forced to return it to the German dealer I purchased it from & wait for a replacement.Quote:
Originally Posted by ProStreetCamaro
Keep us posted :up:
Yes best I can get is about test 7~10 before it locks up. I can’t 100% remember what happens in prime but I think they were ok!Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapseats
Yes give them just enough vdimm to boot & they will pass memtest (test 4 & 8 most problematic) but fail 32M, little more vdimm lockup.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapseats
Yes I can sort of see that as Chew mentioned the relationship of voltages was pretty critical to getting them running but I spent 2 days going over timings & voltages & improved nothing. He also mentioned you need good Hypers & I'm leaning towards believing him seeing as he's clearly in the know judging by his results.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapseats
Yes I remember, I tested all sorts of things before finding that. My chip/setup is crazy did you see my low volt 5.5GHz post!!! it passes 32M, Linx, Prime etc with crazy low pll & vtt!!! I've not seen anyone else run this low :shrug: but it works for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapseats
Didn’t test this, would be interesting to see if others find the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapseats
I've flashed back to F5x because I know it works & the newer bios's gained me nothing. Oh & the latest one is dangerous & should not have been released imo due to the Level 2 spike.... it hurt my chip!!!!
We have 24 month warranty in Belgium so I was planning on an RMA when I sell it in a few months. So if they decide not to RMA it, they'll have no legal foot to stand on :) And the store clerk assured me that the shop would RMA it. I'm too lazy atm to take it back out :p I am away from home each day from 5.45 until 19.00 because of work so fsck the SATA bug ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
Ok, got my UD5 B3, and it came with F1 BIOS.
Some changes.
1) Board seems to keep its settings when the PSU is unplugged (at least it does for 30 minutes). Old board would say overclocking failed if PSU is unplugged under the same conditions.
2) LLC seems fixed, or seems to match the UD7. Unfortunately, I have no way to test this, as CPU-z 1.56.3 and 1.57 are both reporting the Vcore as the VTT (again). CPUZ needs an update for B3, apparently...
In BIOS: 1.25 LLC1 -> 1.238v
1.25 LLC2 ->1.272v.
Decided to buy a second chip, and it has a lower VID at 5 ghz and boots at x49 without PLL Overvoltage. Way too early to tell whats going on though. I'll have to test both chips with the new LLC1 to see which one I keep.
Thanks for the update. Did you try any new BIOS yet ? Good to hear you dont have the boot issues so far. Please keep us posted on that since its my only problem with Gigabyte.
Only gona say "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
So I'll only try a new bios if i find a problem.
So far, the same boot instability issues happen if PLL overvoltage is enabled (sometimes, the BIOS can't retain the settings after you exit the BIOS), but that never happens if PLL overvoltage isn't enabled.
LLC1 is definitely mostly fixed. It's not perfect, there IS a droop, but it's not like 0.1v like with "standard"; probably 0.05v (ESTIMATING).
It seems, from TEMP readings, that LLC2 is "about" the same as the old LLC1. That's just going from temps. Only tested LLC2 on the first CPU.
BTW, I have a new chip with a weird code on it.
Batch 3101A209. Decided to buy another 2600k as I had a feeling things would be different on the B3 board.
It has a significantly lower VID at 5 ghz than the first cpu did. (1.355v at 5 ghz, while the other one was 1.390v). Both are 1.235v at 3.4 ghz. It runs HOTTER by several C, however, so far, it's doing 5 ghz at lower voltage (FOR THE MOMENT).
I'm not going to waste my time priming on this cpu, especially without voltage readout, but I'll tell you this:
With LLC1, the first chip locks up the INSTANT (yes, INSTANT) I hit "start" on small FFT prime95 (the L045A998), at 1.445v and LLC1. This CPU was able to prime to iteration 2 before I stopped it (about 1 minute; I don't like the temps), at that same voltage. I can't monitor the voltages, so I don't know what vcore it's getting under load.
I will say that when I put the BIOS voltage at 1.50v on the L045 cpu, and LLC1, it primed for about 20 seconds then rebooted. (If only I knew what the voltage was!). So the weird 3101A209 cpu is doing better for now--unless it degrades.
BTW This one is Costa Rica..that may explain the batch#.
BTW, it's VERY pleasing that it kept the BIOS settings while switching cpu's. (often, just removing a CPU from a motherboard causes the BIOS to reset). Can't test leaving the computer off overnight, since I never turn off my systems unless I'm eating its guts out (Thank you, Claymore...you damn anime...)
Only HWiNFO32 reads everything correctly on my UD7-B3. You might wanna try it.
Aida64?
Nope. Vcore 2.888-3.000V constantly. No Vddr at all. No HDD temps also. Reads board "unknown".
Strange I've never found this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
Sounds better, Easy tune should show you the voltages & I know you dont want to beat up on your new chip but I'd appreciate a few figures if you dont mind doing a few tests.Quote:
LLC1 is definitely mostly fixed. It's not perfect, there IS a droop, but it's not like 0.1v like with "standard"; probably 0.05v (ESTIMATING).
It seems, from TEMP readings, that LLC2 is "about" the same as the old LLC1. That's just going from temps. Only tested LLC2 on the first CPU.
Std voltage in bios =, ET Idle=, ET LinX Load=
Level 1 voltage in bios =, ET Idle=, ET LinX Load=
Level 2 voltage in bios =, ET Idle=, ET LinX Load=
You only need do 1 loop of LinX to give us an idea & it can even be at stock speed.
Found this years ago on TPU.... Thanks to W1zzardQuote:
BTW, I have a new chip with a weird code on it.
Batch 3101A209.
Looks like you got a Costa Rica, 2011 week 1 chip
Reading the Intel FPO/Batch Code
Example: L149A463-0726
1st letter or digit = plant code (Malay)
0 = San Jose, Costa Rica
1 = Cavite, Philippines
3 = .............., Costa Rica
6 = Chandler, Arizona
7 = .........., Philippines
8 = Leixlip, Ireland
9 = Penang, Malaysia
L = ............, Malaysia
Q = ..........., Malaysia
R = Manila, Philippines
Y = Leixlip, Ireland
2nd digit = Year of production (2001)
3rd & 4th digits = week (49th week )
5th - 8th digits= lot number
10th - 13th digits = serialization code
:up: a fresh startQuote:
Decided to buy another 2600k as I had a feeling things would be different on the B3 board.It has a significantly lower VID at 5 ghz than the first cpu did. (1.355v at 5 ghz, while the other one was 1.390v). Both are 1.235v at 3.4 ghz. It runs HOTTER by several C, however, so far, it's doing 5 ghz at lower voltage (FOR THE MOMENT).
Ok, 1.25v BIOS, LLC standard:
(100x40, 4 ghz, 4C, 4T)
LinX (AgentGod's IntelBurnTest with latest binaries).
Windows XP
Using HWinfo32 for voltages.
1.25v BIOS: LLC standard:
Idle: 1.224v
Load: 1.164v
1.25v BIOS: LLC Level 1:
idle: 1.248v
Load: 1.224v
1.25v BIOS: LLC level 2:
idle: 1.260v
Load: 1.272v
(ran prime95 really fast to doublecheck LLC2 to make sure).
Awesome thanks man, looks great ill have to get on and rma mine
C_N,
I just did a 15 minute prime blend run at 5 ghz to check the vdroop, because I felt the above example wasn't realistic for what you run your own chips at (since HWinfo was able to monitor the voltages).
BIOS voltage was set to 1.445v. LLC1
here's what I got.
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/2952/98420349.png
So just as I thought, the board droops the idle voltage more at higher voltages (but as far as I know, ALL boards do this). At 1.25v LLC1, the idle voltage was 1.248v, a 0.002v difference from BIOS (basically, none), and load 1.224v, a delta of 0.024v between idle and load.
At 1.445v, idle voltage was 1.428v, load 1.404v. 0.17v difference between BIOS and idle. The idle to load voltage delta remained at 0.024v.
Didn't test it, but I can assume LLC2 will have the same idle to load delta (hopefully), but the voltage rising at idle (to around 1.462v idle, 1.484v load).
That's if everything goes by the books...
Is this still acceptable or is this a disappointing result?
BTW I stopped prime blend on the next batch loop (256k), after 512k passed (yes I know it was only 15 minutes) because the temps went slowly up to 82C, and that was too much for me.
BTW 4.5 ghz was going blend at 1.236v load (1.265v BIOS), stopped it at 15 minutes (ran two 15 minute tests)...guess that isn't bad, is it? :)
(My first run passed the first loop at 1.224v load, so I decided to get :banana::banana::banana::banana:y and set the BIOS to 1.235v and try to run blend at 1.211v load. Fat chance. Rebooted fast. Tried 1.25v bios (1.224v load) and it rebooted a minute or so into the test. Yay for instant degrade? Set it to 1.265v, ran 15 minutes fine, so I went to 5 ghz and 1.445v bios, ran 15 minutes at 1.404v load, then temps got too hot on 2nd group, went BACK to 4.5 ghz and 1.265v bios, ran 15 minutes (again) at 1.236v and decided to stop wearing down the chip.
I know it's going to degrade more (like yours have done), but if this chip winds up being reasonably stable at 4.5 ghz 1.245v load, and 5 ghz 1.414v load, that's a pretty decent chip, right? (but not "low voltage" like some...)
(Boots X49 without PLL, X50 causes instant OC failed error).
I think it depends on what boards you have used in the past as to whether it’s acceptable or not. IMO GB have always had pretty rough voltage control compared to others I've used however this has I think without exception never taken anything away from their ability to perform. I would be quite happy with Level 1 as it’s very much better than Intel spec/droop & In keeping with other boards I have used. Level 2 I don’t think should overshoot, I would be much happier if it didn’t overshoot on load but then again that’s just my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
All chips burn in (avoiding the degrade word) I think it’s just far more noticeable when you can max out a chip in 30minutes compared to days gone by when it took many hours if not days of tweaking to max out a chip/board. It’s also worth mentioning we used to be board limited like x38/48 fsb for example now it’s the chip that’s holding the board back so you are going to see the chip losing its new shine much faster.Quote:
BTW I stopped prime blend on the next batch loop (256k), after 512k passed (yes I know it was only 15 minutes) because the temps went slowly up to 82C, and that was too much for me.
BTW 4.5 ghz was going blend at 1.236v load (1.265v BIOS), stopped it at 15 minutes (ran two 15 minute tests)...guess that isn't bad, is it? :)
(My first run passed the first loop at 1.224v load, so I decided to get :banana::banana::banana::banana:y and set the BIOS to 1.235v and try to run blend at 1.211v load. Fat chance. Rebooted fast. Tried 1.25v bios (1.224v load) and it rebooted a minute or so into the test. Yay for instant degrade? Set it to 1.265v, ran 15 minutes fine, so I went to 5 ghz and 1.445v bios, ran 15 minutes at 1.404v load, then temps got too hot on 2nd group, went BACK to 4.5 ghz and 1.265v bios, ran 15 minutes (again) at 1.236v and decided to stop wearing down the chip.
I know it's going to degrade more (like yours have done), but if this chip winds up being reasonably stable at 4.5 ghz 1.245v load, and 5 ghz 1.414v load, that's a pretty decent chip, right? (but not "low voltage" like some...)
(Boots X49 without PLL, X50 causes instant OC failed error).
All 4 of the chips I have used have ended up needing something like .07 ~ .09v more voltage after 2/4 weeks running where they appear to settle.
I think based on my own chips 5G 1.4v is very good & 1.45 being more like the good end of average. The problem I see is the information available to base an opinion on is a little flawed having a jumble of results with new chips that have not burnt/settled in & not fully 24/7 stable rigs mixed in with perhaps a few sledgehammer overclocks if you know what I mean :D so its very difficult to class what’s good & what’s not.
Finally got a hold of a decent chip.
CPU #3: i7 2600k Batch# L045A912 #2417
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1709100
Time for some Global Domination, and maybe a new set of sticks :D
http://hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=5...se&iehack=.jpg
Very nice chip OC maximus, looks like another fine keeper. Nice Pi score.:up:
Yes looking good OCM, You already got some of the best sticks going dont you like them?
Thanks guys. tRCD won't drop to 9 no matter what. I may just get another set of the same or a similar set and try again.
oh i like that idea :D
:) and ;) to you HC :D
so gay lol
I smell Blowfish.:rofl:
new BIOS for UD5 B3 chip F2
i think there is no more bios for B2 ..........
thanks you GB for bugged MB
yes so this means that you should RMA your board:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by damsxx
common sense need not apply ;)
Not gigabyte's fault that you're too lazy to RMA the board. And Intel had the bug, not GB. You should have seen this coming. But common sense need not apply...Quote:
Originally Posted by damsxx
So go RMA it.
hahaha thanks you ! :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
i know about intel SATA 3GB/s issue but UD5 is an amout of bug
??????Quote:
Originally Posted by damsxx
what?
Did we miss something here? My board works great.
Same here, lmao.
Huh? English, please?Quote:
Originally Posted by damsxx
http://www.epitomeofnothing.net/word...ou_speak_i.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by damsxx
How about some discussion of the new F2 bios?
I was not trying to be, but I do see you are not very humorous:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Skakruk
:toast:
New beta here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
http://hwbot.org/forum/showpost.php?...&postcount=349
New AIDA64 1327 show correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by nijel
It does.
changelog?Quote:
Originally Posted by stasio
If you don't mind my asking, how.where did you get three chip's from? have you just purchased x3 or where you able to RMA? I'm waiting on a mobo, but I had quite a shock finding my 2600k received today is a Batch#3103B307 out of Costa Rica. There doesn't seem to be too much information on this batch and til I get my P8p67 Deluxe I'll be in the dark. I got spoiled rotten with my last chip an E8600 that fired up @ 4ghz the first day and I haven't touched it since(in fact it won't even post at the default 3.3) I just sort of imagined this one hitting 5Ghz on air just like the last, it looks as if my expectations where perhaps a bit unrealistic, I'm sorely tempted to go batch hunting while I wait for my board but...there really isn't enough data to roll the dice on a specific Batch, unless anybody here has some idea's. Oh and I just realized I may have messed up on my Ram. I grabbed Gskill last time but the Corsair Dominators were on sale @ Newegg and I bit, I hope I don't regret my hasty decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Maximus
I got a 3101A209
So the new UD5 are doing fine? Im about to cross over to SB Looking to get a Stable 4.5ghz on the 2500K for gaming, after playing(testing) of course, Finger is hovering over the checkout button.
Edit* went ahead and ordered it before it went OOS hope everything works out.
Got two off newegg and sold them on ebay for $300. The last one I bought used off a friend which was binning for a better chip himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vektor67
NEW F3C beta bios for UD5 B3
Already been posted.
Do you have some feedback about the beta?
So far my new board is working well. Went straight to 4.5 right out of the box at original settings that I used before.
Cold boot/boot loops fixed after hard power off/unplug or clearing cmos.
I pray i got no boot issues. Tomorrow im getting the replacement. I prefer i get a 4Ghz 24/7 clock rock solid w/o any booting issues than 4.8 Ghz 24/7 with booting issues every time i start it up...
The board "appears" to double initialize the chipset after you cut the power completely (like unplugging the PSU or clearing cmos), but it doesn't boot loop by cutting the power anymore. I actually can hear my video card fan ramp up twice and I can see my Astro A40 power light turn yellow two times. But since there isn't an automatic power shutdown anymore, there's no loss of BIOS settings, either. Settings come right up.
Reminds me of the 975X fix that was done years ago.
Haven't tested changing lots of settings with PLL override enabled yet, or with what would happen if BIOS recovery were necessary, but zero problems so far with F3C.
(The board does fully power down after certain profile changes or certain options saved; I think switching PLL override from enabled to disabled will cause a full 5 second shutdown when you save and exit).
No power cutting boot loops yet, though.
I have a couple questions... got my system together and tried a little OC and for some reason CPUZ 1.57 keeps changing core speed am i doing something wrong? #2 sometimes it seems it will not go into bios screen when hitting DEL on my USB keyboard #3 what are the basic changes made in the Bios to OC such as CPU multi/CPU Vcore etc thanks for helping a intel n00b
UD5-b3 / i5 2500K / GSkill ddr3-1866 8gb/ Bios f2
Im on B2 but I don’t think it will make much difference, I get CPU-Z crashes maybe 2 in 10 fail to start but work fine 2nd time I just figured it was due to trying to open CPU-Z early before the rig was fully loaded. I don’t get this problem if I'm a bit slower to open programs after reboot.Quote:
Originally Posted by AMD_Freak
I think the not going into BIOS is BIOS specific some of the BIOS's I have used go in easier than others some like me to hold del down some like only one tap some display "prepare to enter bios" when del is hit some don’t. I find using IDE rather than AHCI to be better for entering BIOS especially when you are messing about in BIOS many times. You can always switch AHCI back on when you have settled on some settings & don’t need to enter the BIOS quite so much.
As for OC settings most boards/chips appear to do 4.5G on auto maybe a bump in vcore, why dont you see how far you can get save it in BIOS & start changing things to see what works for you. If you get stuck there are plenty here self included just tell us what's happening or not & we'll see if we have an answer.
Need o.c help
I've been able to be stable everything auto (vcore 1.37) up to 48, but can't get 49 stable with vcore up to 1.40, windows failed during the first intel burntest, I get a multicolored screen but no bsod. My cpu pll overvoltage is enable and llc set to level 1. All other features are disable. I only manually change the vcore, all other voltage leaved to auto.
Any Idea or I just have a not so good chip.
Multicolored screen? Huh? >_> Sounds like a BSOD that failed to happen and instead it crashed the display driver or something, or wrote random pixels to vram. who knows...
You're using LLC1, so raise the vcore in the bios to 1.425v. It's going to drop under load and wind up being something like 1.390v.
use a multimeter to check volts rather than rely on software as its not really correct
When are you getting your B3? It's alot more stable. Only seems to ever boot loop if you try to S3 with PLL enabled (which disables the PLL when powering back up and causes boot loops and could potentially require a cmos clear to get out of, then the board goes right into windows instantly as if nothing ever happened).Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
Also, my costa rica 2600k hasn't "degraded" yet with the fixed LLC1...no idea if that's because of no more overshooting, or because of a better chip...
I put LLC to level 2, and my 49 multi is stable vcore 1.37 in bios, it raise to 1.40 under load with temp around 80, that will be my 24/7 clock
I was thinking what Falkentyre said.... sure it could be anything but the only times I have had a multicoloured screen was over cooking my ram & it was patchy with odd characters mixed in & full screen of multicolour blocks when my video card has the 2 bob bits again due to pushing it to hard or without enough voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by autoct
Was all up for it until I heard some people having issues with B3... My B2 is functioning spot on as it always has done & I'm still stoked with its daily performance so no hurry to change it really. I think I'll wait for the next board/chip then do something about it unless it breaks before then!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
Interesting about the degrading but I've never had a chip that didn’t settle/degrade at least a bit, the trick to note this for me for what practical value it serves I don’t know is to record your chips 1st boot voltage & be able to find its max real quick before it degrades without you knowing it.
I basically booted my new chips at stock set a few things up & multi at 45 then v quickly upped the multi 1 at a time noting the required boot into windows voltage from 45~max within 20 minutes of powering the chip up. My chip/chips all needed more voltage after minutes/weeks to even boot into windows & or run linX as they had before. My current 2500K needed I think something like 1.26 on 1st boot to get into windows at 5G!!! & did 5.5 the first time under 1.4v
Thanks C-N for the help after many years of AMD/Asus its all new to me I guess its just a small learning curve. I did find what seems to be a solution to the bios deal if I hit DEL only once during the loading of the drives it works over all Im happy with everything so far was able to bump it up to 4.8ghz with a slight bump in vcore http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1731130
with a lot more reading and testing I see no reason this wont run 5.0ghz.The one thing that scared me when I got the board was to find it had a Foxconn socket, had a bad experience one time where it lets say melted. after looking around I found that the CPUZ issue was only the C1E-EIST settings
Well, that's why I did an advanced RMA. That way I had both boards so I could make sure I was happy with the B3 before returning the B2.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
And I've had no problems with mine. Was definitely worth the trouble of the swap, and my B3 is light and day ahead of the B2. I think you'll be pleased if you swap. But it's up to you.
If you do the swap though, can you test some voltage readouts for us?
I have a problem with my RAM. If I try XMP profile everything load fine into the bios (6-8-6-24) but show (8-8-6-24) in windows or memtest86.
I've try many different setting but always load wrong from what in the bios ???
Good thinking & sure I'll take some readings but maybe someone here that has a B3 could do them now if you need them now :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
I have seen this a few times cant remember how it happened or the fix but for now the only thing I can think of is both channels are not setting the same. Maybe when you set the XMP profile you have something other than auto/quick set like expert & the profile is only loading in channel A. Other than that try setting something slacker like 8.9.8 / 9.10.9 & see if memtest/windows reads it right. I have also seen the same on other boards when I push tight timings one channel will blow out/not register etc as either the dimm is weaker or the channel needs an independent tweak to get it to match others (happened a lot with DFI)Quote:
Originally Posted by autoct
SO far so good. The board came in with F1 bios. Everything went smooth, windows detected all stuff. The clocks remain about the same as my previous board. I gained a few degrees from the whole deal- probly cooler mounting went smoother. LLC1 is way more aggresive this time around. Befiore 1.55v LLC1 gave around 1.408v under load. Now its more than 1.55v under load at the same settings - that's massive difference ! Im still experimenting. The cold boot (overclcok failed) message came in only once when i pushed 5 Ghz 2133mhz ram, other than that it behaves more stable than my previous board. I have to see if the cold boot (overclcok faild) message is still there, so far i had only 1 power ON cycle from last night and did not give me "overclcok faiked" message upon boot. Lets hope it doesnt have that problem, ill find out in a few days. :)
Flash to F3c beta bios. F1 still boot loops and can report overclocked failed, when loading some profiles or when changing certain settings (especially when going from a high to a low overclock), and f3c mostly prevents that, by usually doing a "soft" internal cycling instead of hard power cycling (which also helps it keep the bios settings). (The only time when f3c will boot loop uncontrollably (may require clear cmos) is if you try resuming from S3 with PLL overvoltage enabled, and it seems to automatically disable the PLL after an S3 resume=thus the chip can't boot if its beyond the multiplier wall.
Confused about LLC...You sure you using LLC1? Did you clear the cmos before you installed the board? Because everyone who has used a B3 UD5 says that only LLC2 overvolts, and doesn't overvolt that much. Your LLC1 should have smaller vdroop, but should NOT overvolt.
On the B2 boards, LLC1 with 1.55v would be over 1.60v under load, so I have NO idea where you got 1.408 from (and I didn't try the very last B2 beta bios, as that had PLL override removed)
Use HWinfo32 to monitor your voltages on B3.
B2 boards were overvolting a lot with LLC1.
1st round of testing Don't know how good they are.
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/319...2500k48ghz.png
Not bad, what batch 2500K?
Same issue with this board as my old board. When the PC is shut down for a longer period of time (~8hrs) upon boot tells me "Overclocks failed" and reverts the memory to 1333mhz and i have to log in BIOS, save and exit and than it boots up fine with the proper settings(2133mhz). Annoying as hell. Looks like im gonna have to hunt for some P67 certified memories. Sad cause these G.Skills are running perfectly fine when the mobo decides to boot up properly with them.
I'm still benching the crap out of my pre-release UD5 :)
New sticks are here, SPi time :D
http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/r...EMI/gskill.png
What BIOS version are you using? F3C?Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboDiv
Batch# LO52A782 http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1...n0010uv.th.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by flesheatinvirus
if you can see anything I missed let me know, Im still learning Intel would like to see 5.0ghz+ 24/7
Please flash to F3C.Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboDiv
I just left my computer turned off for two hours, with the power supply completely unplugged (rocker switch was off), so the board had absolutely no standby power going to it.
I just got up now, flipped on the PSU switch, turned on the board, and it powered right up at 4 ghz. I tested this just for you.
Two hours with the AC power completely cut off should be no different than unlimited time with AC completely cut off. On the B2 board, if I powered the computer down and left the PSU turned on, it would power up and keep the settings. If I unplugged the mains after powering down, it would say overclock failed.
I haven't tested the reset button yet.
Ok I just pressed reset for you.
Pressing reset causes the board to lose the overclock settings and say "overclocked failed.", then it powers down for 5 seconds, powers up, then you can get into the BIOS. It does not do that "power up for 3 seconds, with a quick power down, then power up again, though. So definitely don't use the reset button :D Use the power off button instead. (especially important after a BSOD, since I usually have a habit of pressing reset after a BSOD).
Hmm...the RESET button might still have a use...
I can see it PREVENTING the board from infinitely boot looping if you try to suspend with S3 with PLL override enabled, and immediately allowing you in the BIOS (after it loops once), instead of having to clear the CMOS...
Same here all running like a champ & nearly into its 5th month of rapeage :DQuote:
Originally Posted by OC Maximus
Have fun with those new sticks bud :up: & keep us posted
Im still with the F1 bios. Ill flash it when i get home to the F3C. Did you flash through Windows @BIOS or through Qflash ?