AMD Radeon HD 6870 and HD 6850 confirmed to be launched on 22.10.2010

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10-21-2010, 02:35 AM
slaveondope

10.9 5850 stock
http://i51.tinypic.com/2w5242s.jpg

10.9 5850 900/1050 6870 clocks

http://i52.tinypic.com/v3lpxy.jpg

Pretty much the same:rolleyes:
10-21-2010, 02:55 AM
Aten-Ra

ok thx ;)

We now need to see if it will get any different results in Extreme Tessellation setting.

Well, one more day to go
10-21-2010, 02:58 AM
hugin72

Quote:

Originally Posted by slaveondope

10.9 5850 stock
http://i51.tinypic.com/2w5242s.jpg

10.9 5850 900/1050 6870 clocks

http://i52.tinypic.com/v3lpxy.jpg

Pretty much the same:rolleyes:

try with the same clock on cpu as well
regards
10-21-2010, 03:03 AM
Aten-Ra

Minimum frames are better with 5850 and 10.9 than 6870

one more from GigaByte 6870

http://galeon.com/civicsport16/heaven_oc.JPG
10-21-2010, 03:22 AM
slaveondope

Quote:

Originally Posted by hugin72

try with the same clock on cpu as well
regards

Heaven doesnt benefit from increased cpu clocks its one of the best benchmarks for GPU's regardless of platform;)
10-21-2010, 03:31 AM
Florinmocanu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aten-Ra

Minimum frames are better with 5850 and 10.9 than 6870

one more from GigaByte 6870

http://galeon.com/civicsport16/heaven_oc.JPG

the GPU in there is not a 6870, it's a GTX 460, check the screen capture.
10-21-2010, 03:33 AM
zerazax

Interesting

So assuming those leaked 6870 benches were real, then in Heaven at least, 6870 @ 900 Mhz w/ 1120 SP's = 5850 @ 900 Mhz w/ 1440 SP's... hmm

Interestingly enough, 1440 is 288x5 whereas 1120 is 280x4, if we are assuming that 4D is nearly the same efficiency as 5D, assuming no other changes were made

So ironically this just asked more questions.. is it more efficient front end, or did SP's get tweaked?
10-21-2010, 03:35 AM
Florinmocanu

from what the rumors suggest, Bart XT still uses the same 5-way shaders. Cayman is rumored to bring the new 4D layout.
10-21-2010, 03:38 AM
zerazax

Quote:

Originally Posted by Florinmocanu

from what the rumors suggest, Bart XT still uses the same 5-way shaders. Cayman is rumored to bring the new 4D layout.

Yes, I'm aware of the current rumors

Of course, the current rumors are changing every hour :ROTF:
10-21-2010, 03:39 AM
Metroid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aten-Ra

Minimum frames are better with 5850 and 10.9 than 6870
one more from GigaByte 6870

Quote:

Originally Posted by Florinmocanu

the GPU in there is not a 6870, it's a GTX 460, check the screen capture.

So much fun :lol:
10-21-2010, 03:44 AM
blindbox

It's actually already on sale on Malaysia (one store, limited stock) for RM 700 and 790 (6850 and 6870 respectively).

GTX460 1 GB costs around RM 700 here.
10-21-2010, 03:53 AM
Solus Corvus

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerazax

Interesting

So assuming those leaked 6870 benches were real, then in Heaven at least, 6870 @ 900 Mhz w/ 1120 SP's = 5850 @ 900 Mhz w/ 1440 SP's... hmm

Interestingly enough, 1440 is 288x5 whereas 1120 is 280x4, if we are assuming that 4D is nearly the same efficiency as 5D, assuming no other changes were made

So ironically this just asked more questions.. is it more efficient front end, or did SP's get tweaked?

Good point. It could simply be a more efficient 4D design. Or perhaps it is a result of the improved tessellator.

Tomorrow will be interesting for sure.
10-21-2010, 04:07 AM
Macadamia

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindbox

It's actually already on sale on Malaysia (one store, limited stock) for RM 700 and 790 (6850 and 6870 respectively).

GTX460 1 GB costs around RM 700 here.

That's cheap!

XFX prices here are 329/389 SGD :o
10-21-2010, 05:13 AM
kaktus1907

6850
http://home.coolpc.com.tw/upon/vga/6...d-hd6850-2.jpg
http://home.coolpc.com.tw/upon/vga/6...d-hd6850-6.jpg
http://home.coolpc.com.tw/upon/vga/6...d-hd6850-4.jpg

http://home.coolpc.com.tw/upon/vga/6...d-hd6850-3.jpg

http://home.coolpc.com.tw/upon/vga/6...-hd6850-11.gif
10-21-2010, 05:18 AM
kuroikenshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metroid

So much fun :lol:

lol so true, reading fail :rofl:
10-21-2010, 05:27 AM
slaveondope

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaktus1907

6850
http://home.coolpc.com.tw/upon/vga/6...-hd6850-11.gif

Nice.
10-21-2010, 05:35 AM
kaktus1907

they tested with Forceware 258.96 = Boo
and overclocked GTX460 @765/3700MHz = Boo
10-21-2010, 05:44 AM
cold2010

HD 6870

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3133/gb4p9.jpg

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/1509/gb4pb.jpg
10-21-2010, 05:50 AM
kaktus1907

it says GT 240 ?
10-21-2010, 05:54 AM
Metroid

Quote:

Originally Posted by cold2010

GTX 460 1GB

Is this a bug or I'm actually seen it right? :lol:

Edit: I'm going to bed, too tired to laugh. :(
10-21-2010, 05:57 AM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metroid

Is this a bug or I'm actually seen it right? :lol:

its also incomparable results
nvidia: 8xAA and 4xAF vs:
ATI: 0xAA/4xAF or 8xAA/16xAF

its not the same as any, although close to the second one.
10-21-2010, 06:00 AM
ethomaz

HD 6870 > GT 240???

And the filters are differents.

Image 1: 1920x1080 noAA 4xAF
Image 2: 1920x1080 8xAA 16xAF
Image 3: 1920x1080 8xAA 4xAF
10-21-2010, 06:02 AM
cold2010

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaktus1907

it says GT 240 ?

sorry , This Sources

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=3694

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...postcount=3696
10-21-2010, 07:11 AM
slaveondope

Quote:

Originally Posted by cold2010

HD 6870

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3133/gb4p9.jpg

http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/1509/gb4pb.jpg

Now we maybe looking at something different:)

10.9 5850 900/1050 for comparison on efficiency all assuming its legit;)

http://i51.tinypic.com/2qk1fo6.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/n3lso3.jpg
10-21-2010, 07:15 AM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by slaveondope

Now we maybe looking at something different:)

10.9 5850 900/1050 for comparison on efficiency all assuming its legit;)

-snip-

did you do them yourself? then thanks, can we get stock speeds too?

its looking like extreme preset is indeed handling better for 6800s, but it also looks like heavy AA is handled better on 5800s
10-21-2010, 07:26 AM
Lokinhow

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaktus1907

http://home.coolpc.com.tw/upon/vga/6...-hd6850-11.gif

GTX460 1GB or 768MB?
10-21-2010, 07:30 AM
kaktus1907

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lokinhow

GTX460 1GB or 768MB?

lantic gtx 460 1 gb @ 765/3700MHz with Forceware 258.96
10-21-2010, 07:36 AM
initialised

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...5_827413_n.jpg

Just got ~95% CF scaling in Vantage.
10-21-2010, 07:36 AM
Aten-Ra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Florinmocanu

the GPU in there is not a 6870, it's a GTX 460, check the screen capture.

Heh, epic fail

Thx ;)
10-21-2010, 07:41 AM
slaveondope

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manicdan

did you do them yourself? then thanks, can we get stock speeds too?

its looking like extreme preset is indeed handling better for 6800s, but it also looks like heavy AA is handled better on 5800s

Per request;)

http://i56.tinypic.com/169krkl.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/n20i37.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by initialised

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...5_827413_n.jpg

Just got ~95% CF scaling in Vantage.

Seriously only 1 xfire bridge:confused:
Hope they have a good reason why they didnt offer that scaling on the 5series:mad:
10-21-2010, 07:48 AM
Aten-Ra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metroid

Is this a bug or I'm actually seen it right? :lol:

Edit: I'm going to bed, too tired to laugh. :(

Because you trying to be a smart ass too

6870
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/67/gb4p8.jpg

this is the bench I was referring

5850 @ 900MHz and 10.9
http://i52.tinypic.com/v3lpxy.jpg
10-21-2010, 07:50 AM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by slaveondope

Per request;)

-snip-

thanks, looks like a great jump for extreme tessellation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slaveondope

Per request;)
Seriously only 1 xfire bridge:confused:
Hope they have a good reason why they didnt offer that scaling on the 5series:mad:

consensus seems to be that they want to sell more 6900s
10-21-2010, 08:07 AM
RPGWiZaRD

But due to price it's also less likely for people to buy several expensive cards so it would make sense to have more than 1 bridge on Barts as these would be the cards people would concider running more than 2 with (I personally couldn't care less as I never intend to run multiple cards).
10-21-2010, 08:29 AM
initialised

Quote:

Originally Posted by slaveondope

Per request;)

http://i56.tinypic.com/169krkl.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/n20i37.jpg

Seriously only 1 xfire bridge:confused:
Hope they have a good reason why they didnt offer that scaling on the 5series:mad:

From 20.1 in Heaven to 36.8 so 83% there.
10-21-2010, 08:29 AM
informal

For the price of 3 Barts one could probably buy Antilles which will be all around faster. I just don't see many users going for 3Fire with these cards.When Cayman arrives,it will be probably better than 2 Barts in CF(due to scaling issues in CF Vs single "fat" GPU like Cayman).
10-21-2010, 08:33 AM
Iconyu

Quote:

Originally Posted by initialised

Just got ~95% CF scaling in Vantage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

For the price of 3 Barts one could probably buy Antilles which will be all around faster. I just don't see many users going for 3Fire with these cards.When Cayman arrives,it will be probably better than 2 Barts in CF(due to scaling issues in CF Vs single "fat" GPU like Cayman).

Not so clear now eh?
10-21-2010, 08:35 AM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconyu

Not so clear now eh?

Vantage is not equal to actual games.Not to mention min fps argument for single GPU Vs CF/SLI , "microstutter"(be it a myth or subjective but real thing) ,power draw etc.
10-21-2010, 08:37 AM
-=DVS=-

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconyu

Not so clear now eh?

Vantage =/= every game outhere.
10-21-2010, 09:04 AM
6thsurvivor

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaktus1907

6850
http://home.coolpc.com.tw/upon/vga/6...d-hd6850-3.jpg

Hope that one was 1080P, cause we are sooo buying the 6850 ;D

our 4770/x3 720@3,5 scores similar :D :
http://i51.tinypic.com/j6qsmp.jpg

BUT 720P ;D
10-21-2010, 09:10 AM
zerazax

Quote:

http://home.coolpc.com.tw/upon/vga/6...-hd6850-11.gif

Those 6850 scores are interesting. Beating a OC'd GTX 460 1GB in games (and not synthetic benches) is impressive, if true. A 6870 might well trounce the GTX 470 then
10-21-2010, 09:15 AM
Iconyu

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

Vantage is not equal to actual games.Not to mention min fps argument for single GPU Vs CF/SLI , "microstutter"(be it a myth or subjective but real thing) ,power draw etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by -=DVS=-

Vantage =/= every game outhere.

This is true, I have to admit, but 5870's didn't scale very well on Vantage before thus I think the 6870's in cross fire will beat 5870's crossfire with some ease.
10-21-2010, 09:27 AM
kadozer

Already salivating on what a beast Cayman XT is going to be.
10-21-2010, 10:28 AM
eXa

This is early drivers too.... :)
10-21-2010, 11:33 AM
Your_Boss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibbo
Much better than expected! :)

We done some quick benchmarks against a 5850 and it beat it at everything.:)

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...&postcount=230

Seems good. Unknown if 6850 or 6870. :D
10-21-2010, 11:41 AM
vengance_01

Not impressed at all. I will sit tight with my GTX 465--> 470 and the Core sitting at 800 with more headroom left. :)
10-21-2010, 11:49 AM
duploxxx

Quote:

Originally Posted by vengance_01

Not impressed at all. I will sit tight with my GTX 465--> 470 and the Core sitting at 800 with more headroom left. :)

:rofl:

68xx series are aimed marketwise against 460 nvidia.... seems like your still messed up with the naming schema...:D

yes sit tight with your heater @800 for a while with headroom
nvidia just doesn't drop the 470 price without a reason, wait for the reviews.
10-21-2010, 11:52 AM
bamtan2

Quote:

Originally Posted by vengance_01

Not impressed at all. I will sit tight with my GTX 465--> 470 and the Core sitting at 800 with more headroom left. :)

I'm not impressed that you're not impressed. you got a really good price for a 470 and you're not impressed by a cheaper card months later. definitely not impressed.
10-21-2010, 11:55 AM
Hey Zeus

4pm on the east coast and non on newegg. Hate paper launch's
10-21-2010, 11:56 AM
zerazax

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

4pm on the east coast and non on newegg. Hate paper launch's

Uh, launch is 10/22 which is TOMORROW buddy :rofl:
10-21-2010, 11:57 AM
Hey Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerazax

Uh, launch is 10/22 which is TOMORROW buddy :rofl:

It's not like newegg does same day shipping. If they sold them today we'd have them tomorrow without any issues.
10-21-2010, 11:59 AM
kadozer

Quote:

Originally Posted by vengance_01

Not impressed at all. I will sit tight with my GTX 465--> 470 and the Core sitting at 800 with more headroom left. :)

Should post this in the Nvidia forums. Don't worry about the responses you get in this thread, you'll get plenty of 'attaboys pats on the back:clap:' for your purchase decision.
10-21-2010, 12:01 PM
generics_user

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

4pm on the east coast and non on newegg. Hate paper launch's

there was no launch yet; launch is tomorrow :shakes:
10-21-2010, 12:02 PM
Kain665

lol that's not how it works...
10-21-2010, 12:02 PM
HelixPC

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...-6870-review/1

6870 Review!
10-21-2010, 12:04 PM
kadozer

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelixPC

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...-6870-review/1

6870 Review!

"looks for UBISOFT benchie" nope, check.

Great an early review.

edit: They reeeaaally need to include Civilization V in these reviews. A really good metric for DX11 performance. This would highlight the DX11 performance for people on the fence between a 5870 at slightly lower cost vs 6870.

Bonus for us few audiophile whores on XS: 7.1 channel, lossless sound 192kHz / 24-bit and 1.4a through HDMI (sweeeeet)
10-21-2010, 12:07 PM
geo

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelixPC

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...-6870-review/1

6870 Review!

Thanks :up:
10-21-2010, 12:08 PM
zerazax

The guru3d review puts the 6870 awfully close to the 5870 in a lot of the intensive games, so getting a 5870 on less power draw and less cost is going to be awesome
10-21-2010, 12:10 PM
Motiv

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerazax

The guru3d review puts the 6870 awfully close to the 5870 in a lot of the intensive games, so getting a 5870 on less power draw and less cost is going to be awesome

since guru is now down, any idea on the tessellation improvements?
10-21-2010, 12:12 PM
generics_user

Quote:

Originally Posted by vengance_01

Not impressed at all. I will sit tight with my GTX 465--> 470 and the Core sitting at 800 with more headroom left. :)

you were lucky with your unlock; only very few people got a stable card; and i agree that barts brings nothing new for GF100/104 or HD58xx series owners, but i think that this chip is going to be very impressive considering the extremely high efficiency (which simply isn't there on GF1xx cards and isn't really high if you compare cypress to RV7xx)
10-21-2010, 12:17 PM
kadozer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motiv

since guru is now down, any idea on the tessellation improvements?

Only a smudge behind in Battlefield DX11 benchmark like 55 fps avg for 5870 to 52 fps avg to 6870 @1920 X resolution.

edit: see below screenshot more like 52 to 46fps.
10-21-2010, 12:18 PM
Hey Zeus

The Guru review is utterly slow. Very nice numbers so far. Nvidia better ready that 475 fairly quickly
10-21-2010, 12:21 PM
HelixPC

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerazax

The guru3d review puts the 6870 awfully close to the 5870 in a lot of the intensive games, so getting a 5870 on less power draw and less cost is going to be awesome

As long as prices stay around $225-250, the 6870 is a good choice :up:
10-21-2010, 12:22 PM
Hey Zeus

Is there any idea on the projected price of the 6870 on the egg? 249.99?
10-21-2010, 12:22 PM
Motiv

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadozer

Only a smudge behind in Battlefield DX11 benchmark like 55 fps avg for 5870 to 52 fps avg to 6870 @1920 X resolution.

so basically, reading this review, the 6870 is between a 5850 & 5870, apart from tesselation (which has improved).

The price however is under a Nvidia 470, making it a mid-high range card, rather than the 5870 which is higher priced?

Or am I reading it wrong.

if so, these cards are pretty decent, and don't burn a hole in your pocket or your electricity bill
10-21-2010, 12:22 PM
HelixPC

Overclocking sucks tho, 954mhz was max core guru 3d
10-21-2010, 12:23 PM
Hey Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motiv

so basically, reading this review, the 6870 is between a 5850 & 5870, apart from tesselation (which has improved).

The price however is under a Nvidia 470, making it a mid-high range card, rather than the 5870 which is higher priced?

Or am I reading it wrong.

if so, these cards are pretty decent, and don't burn a hole in your pocket or your electricity bill

470 is now 229 on newegg. Price drops happened today.
10-21-2010, 12:26 PM
Eagleclaw

lol gurus site must be getting pounded for these reviews
10-21-2010, 12:29 PM
HelixPC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

470 is now 229 on newegg. Price drops happened today.

This is why i love AMD, pushing the prices down! good job :up:, winners here are the customers who waited to upgrade their graphics cards.
10-21-2010, 12:31 PM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelixPC

This is why i love AMD, pushing the prices down! good job :up:, winners here are the customers who waited to upgrade their graphics cards.

only took like forever, lol. a 5850 is like 25% cheaper relative to launch over a year ago?
10-21-2010, 12:31 PM
[XC] hipno650

all of you need to get off the Guru3D site so i can read this review:mad::p:

until i read this review though best part of this whole launch seems to be GTX 470 for like $250.00 thats a sweet deal
10-21-2010, 12:32 PM
kadozer

Ok here's some screenshots while its down.
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/3276/bfbc2c.png

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/663/warhead.png
10-21-2010, 12:35 PM
Hey Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadozer

Ok here's some screenshots while its down.
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/3276/bfbc2c.png

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/663/warhead.png

Thanks but who cares how it compares to the 5870. We all want to see how they compare to the 460/470/480
10-21-2010, 12:36 PM
kadozer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

Thanks but who cares how it compares to the 5870. We all want to see how they compare to the 460/470/480

True but not hard to dig up the 460/470 past reviews yourself no?
10-21-2010, 12:37 PM
Hey Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadozer

True but not hard to dig up the 460/470 past reviews yourself no?

The review is down so the info i want on those pages isn't accessable. :D
10-21-2010, 12:38 PM
kadozer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

The review is down so the info i want on those pages isn't accessable. :D

Not like Guru3d is the only one that reviewed the 460/470 in the past. You'll probably find similar test setups.
10-21-2010, 12:38 PM
DiGiTaL_MoNkEY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

The review is down so the info i want on those pages isn't accessable. :D

I grabbed all that i could from the Guru3D review :D Didn't get a chance to grab the system spec's before they pulled it down.

Enjoy...

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4...ti3t44l3e2.gif

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1...3t4224l3e2.gif

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6...tg4224l3e2.gif

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9628/unti3tl3e2.gif

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5405/untitl3e2.gif

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5919/11210071.gif

Power/Sound:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4208/untitle2.gif

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7263/power.png
10-21-2010, 12:42 PM
Eagleclaw

This is interesting :) BFBC:2

http://inacurate.com/SAPFTP/crossfire.png
10-21-2010, 12:44 PM
kadozer

Looks like scaling is fixed.
10-21-2010, 12:45 PM
Baron_Davis

Is 5970 dual 6870's or is it the true successor to the 5870?

edit: I am retarded, I misread 5970 for 6970.
10-21-2010, 12:45 PM
Spectrobozo

some more
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9111/91145461.gif
10-21-2010, 12:46 PM
Hey Zeus

Thanks monkey.. Exactly what i was looking for. Hmm.. 6870's in Xfire looks nice except i'm not happy with just running 2 cards.

480's price NEEDS to drop
10-21-2010, 12:46 PM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiGiTaL_MoNkEY

I grabbed all that i could from the Guru3D review :D Didn't get a chance to grab the system spec's before they pulled it down.

Enjoy...

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7263/power.png

thats impressive efficiency improvement for the same node.
10-21-2010, 12:49 PM
DiGiTaL_MoNkEY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

Thanks monkey.. Exactly what i was looking for. Hmm.. 6870's in Xfire looks nice except i'm not happy with just running 2 cards.

480's price NEEDS to drop

I'm keen on running three, but they don't allow it :( I'll wait for the 6970 and just grab three of those :D
10-21-2010, 12:50 PM
Zer0th

All the review pages.

Guru3d 6870-6850 review.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/?m5qgbb35ysutw1y#2
10-21-2010, 12:52 PM
Motiv

41 db under load, and 121 watts under load. That's pretty damn impressive.
10-21-2010, 12:54 PM
ripken204

6870 seems quites good, i am happy.
10-21-2010, 12:58 PM
Morais

Im drolling at 6850
10-21-2010, 12:58 PM
generics_user

6850 is much faster than i expected; amd just destroyed pretty much all value the 460 offered if 6850 is priced at the same level as 460 and 6870 takes over the 5850 price point, i thought that 6850 is going to match 460 1gb not exceed it :eek:

EDIT: power efficiency is much better than expected; can't wait to see overclocking results on water!
10-21-2010, 12:59 PM
vengance_01

Quote:

Originally Posted by kadozer

Should post this in the Nvidia forums. Don't worry about the responses you get in this thread, you'll get plenty of 'attaboys pats on the back:clap:' for your purchase decision.

We still don't know prices and we gonna have another 58XX problem with prices sitting above MSRP?

Don't get me wrong, both the 6850 and 6870 cards look like they will be great cards. Just not enough of an improvement over my 470 in mind.
10-21-2010, 01:00 PM
Xoulz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

Thanks monkey.. Exactly what i was looking for. Hmm.. 6870's in Xfire looks nice except i'm not happy with just running 2 cards.

480's price NEEDS to drop

Why?

You do realize that Cayman is only a month away... right?
10-21-2010, 01:02 PM
Sn0wm@n

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelixPC

Overclocking sucks tho, 954mhz was max core guru 3d

only one review and you make that judgement ???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hey Zeus

Thanks monkey.. Exactly what i was looking for. Hmm.. 6870's in Xfire looks nice except i'm not happy with just running 2 cards.

480's price NEEDS to drop

they will ... they will .. if amd is putting the squeeze in the mid high range nvidia will need to either get a 28nm product out or refresh the architecture to make it more viable in price/performance ... so i expect some price drops for sure
10-21-2010, 01:04 PM
eric66

after 2900 series ati is kinda intel of gpu world damn impressive how they keep improving existing arch
10-21-2010, 01:06 PM
RPGWiZaRD

HD6870 is right there where I expected (ok I expected it to be closer to HD5850 than 5870 actually) but HD6850 is doing a lot better than I expected, I can see why Nvidia got such a sudden urge to do drastic price drops... finally competition brings down the prices... about time... Imagine if Barts XT with 1120 SPs can get THIS close to HD5870 then it will be a walk in the park for HD6950 to beat HD5870 and not to mention HD5970 with 1920 SPs...
10-21-2010, 01:08 PM
Final8ty

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...=56&subid=1577
10-21-2010, 01:11 PM
Manicdan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

only one review and you make that judgement ???

considering power consumption, i wouldnt be shocked if clocks were limited cause they were running such a low voltage. we were told the 6870 was going to be like a 5850 in power draw, but its clearly much lower

i didnt think i would be buying a new gpu till 28nm, but if the perf/watt and perf/$ is this Fing good on the 6850, i think it might be time to give in, especially if it can overclock just as well as a 6870.
10-21-2010, 01:13 PM
informal

Performance numbers are indeed great,but AMD spoiled us with 48xx and 58xx :). What is extremely good is power consumption.You basically get nearly 5870/5850 performance going to 6870/6850 with massive power draw drop(60-70W) at the same time and much better CF scaling.It's a pure win,kudos to AMD!
10-21-2010, 01:13 PM
Sn0wm@n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manicdan

considering power consumption, i wouldnt be shocked if clocks were limited cause they were running such a low voltage. we were told the 6870 was going to be like a 5850 in power draw, but its clearly much lower

i didnt think i would be buying a new gpu till 28nm, but if the perf/watt and perf/$ is this Fing good on the 6850, i think it might be time to give in, especially if it can overclock just as well as a 6870.

lower voltage should give out more headroom ... but maybe they had refference boards ... and those might not scale nicely .. all im saying is wait and see before making those sort of claims based on one review only .. and since the numbers do look good i cant imagine non refference cards :D
10-21-2010, 01:14 PM
RPGWiZaRD

£199 @ OcUK for HIS HD6870, not bad, not bad at all. That's like 225 EUR and that usually corresponds to around $250 on US sites (that's comparing cheap european sites/countries vs US cuz often we pay same figure in euro what americans pays in USD in Finland and several other european countries with VAT included).
10-21-2010, 01:15 PM
zalbard

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manicdan

thats impressive efficiency improvement for the same node.

Yeah. Cayman will be a BEAST.
No tessellation performance numbers, though? :\
10-21-2010, 01:15 PM
xdan

Did you realized that guru3d had used same numbers for GTX 460 768MB/1GB as in the 12 july review of GTX 460, and from there there were released until now, 3-4 new drivers...:down:
Look in the 12 july review....

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