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oh I figured he had a connection...just curious and jealous:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
oh well....I still doubt this board will be available before xmas(100 or whatever)....
SO I have decided this is the best option so far and I will wait a little longer..the wife will get pissy...oh well
Oh well If I can't get the board before xmas, I guess I can entertain myself by reading the full review that is coming out tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
Its a software RAID controller, all they're good for is RAID1 and lots of em' can't even do that properly, and performance will be lousy on top of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by D3mon_Hunt3r
If you wanna go RAID get a hardware card or don't even bother with it, just stick with one of those 150GB Raptors.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=474Quote:
Originally Posted by D3mon_Hunt3r
IIRC, Tony said the Promise is slower.
Its not software...the SB has raid built into it. It is hardware raid 0, 1, 5Quote:
Originally Posted by mesyn191
We had a long discussion with AMD this morning. I have slightly revised the history of the chipset in the preview article. The RD600 was technically developed after the RD480/580 but is based upon the first Intel chipset we worked with last year that was internally called RD400 (stingray board) at the time. The RD600 is new in the sense that they added the Active Link II system from the RD580 but also updated the PCI Express logic core to improve CrossFire performance (we noticed at the higher resolutions compared to 975X). Just to recap, the chipset core is based on the RD400/480 design with dual x8 capability, has the Active Link II system from RD580, and includes new PCIe core logic along with a much improved memory controller. We are still debating proper voltages for the NB while overclocking but will provide an update later this week.
no they are still considered software raid.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
now that may not be true if they have revised the controllers in such a way to be more "hardware" than "software"
onboard raid has always been a software driven pseudo-hardware.
hardware raid needs no drivers(so to speak, but that thought can be argued over and over), the raid is created and handled by its own processor, not by a shared processor, so to speak.
sure its cheap raid and cant be compared to a true promise or seagate, or compaq or ibm hardware raid controller or something similar to my S-Cure Hardware Raid controller (which needs no drivers, ever, its all hardware driven.) but onboard has never been hardware raid the drivers you install tell the controller what to do.
Never needs drivers? So Windows just sees the drives, you don't have to install anything to get Windows to boot and no drivers for the card once in Windows?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
I have used Adaptec and DGR hardware raid cards (with 128MB cache on them) and you still needed a driver in Windows.
The basic difference between software RAID and hardware RAID is:
Hardware RAID in its various incarnations will use it own dedicated processor (usually located on the add-in card itself) for RAID array management.
Software RAID is software designed to run its RAID routines through the system processor for RAID array management. The onboard RAID controllers are used for basic hardware routing through the various IDE/SATA channels.
Also, ALL hardware requires some sort of driver, the driver basically tells the hardware what to do/ho to operate.
Exactly. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
My E6300 is rock solid stable at 3.15Ghz (450FSB) @ stock voltage.
Thing is, I don’t want to sell myself short with max CPU overclock at 511FSB when I could have the possibility to go higher. At the end of the day, we all know CPU speed is king.
7 * 511 = 3577 mhz, which is quite respectable by all means for C2D.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichUK
People like Rich and myself probably aren't looking for a board to acheive respectable overclocks. My 6400 is 12 hours orthos stable @3721 mhz 1.440vcore @ load. It would probably do more, but the evga I had wouldn't go any higher. The same cpu did 3.6ghz 1.36v @ load ,but failed orthos blend any higher on the P5B. Some of us just don't want the motherboard to be the limiting factor of an overclock. Unfortunately my experience shows there's no way to know for certain without going through a few boards. These Conroes are not like the Opterons or other overclocking processors we've toyed with. Max oc of a cpu is not the same from motherboard to motherboard. You've just got to find the right combination of hardware and lady luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by _33
511 FSB as I've said before, will satisfy most people with a 6400 or better on air. Phase or dice users will probably want a liitle higher clocking board. The 600FSB boards we hear manufacturers boast of are not here. But this board has been engineered for the overclocking enthusisats & should be a good buy for most of us.
if these chipsets can hit the clock generators limit on air ... the what about people who want to really cool the ATI chipset for more than 511fsb?
someone please ask and confirm with Oskar that he is replacing the 511max fsb clack generator asap :cool:
edit: now that we have a couple of extra voltage options for pushing even unlucky 4mb cache chips, with low fsb walls, it seems silly to have the clockgenerator IC becoming the limiting fsb factor
Tks for bringing that to my attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
The Promise is slow, the Promise RAID benchmarks are already up, native controllers in a couple of days.Quote:
Originally Posted by D3mon_Hunt3r
With the latest beta BIOS release -
If you disable Promise and SB600 RAID you can use the second X16 slot (x8 electrical) for a RAID card, it will switch your first x16 slot from x16 to x8 operation.
The physics slot (x2 electrical) works fine with our x1 Network or TV Tuner cards once you switch the jumper now.
So the best performance from a RAID0 would be using a RAID card instead of any of the onboard controllers?
If i do that won't i have problem when using a ATi card, presuming the RD600 still increases the PCIe frequency when it detects an ATi Card, like it said it would do on the presentation slides?
Tks
Keep up the good work.
Good raid card will cost you hundrets of $ :)
And certainly isn't necessary for the average user. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
For the average user raid isn't needed... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by technodanvan
Is anyone here an average user?
Believe me that raid isn't needed for the majority here...
*raises hand*Quote:
Originally Posted by Trice
Recently, I went from 2x74GB raptor RAID back to single maxline drive and I can hardly see any difference in day to day tasks including gaming and game level loading :)
Of course, maxtors in general are not very reliable but they are fast and I have only sys, 1 game and some crap there :)
Sure in benchmarks RAID is better
Majority for me in this case would be about 96.46% of the users, take away the professional benchmark gurus, and it might be 99.2%. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
Anyway, we are still tweaking this board for better memory throughput, but the RD600 is for the most part memory bandwidth starved when compared to the 975X. Some games and 3D apps score great, some do not when benchmarking. We are discussing the memory controller with AMD tonight to see if there are any tweaks left in it. I doubt it as I really believe Oskar maxed the board out. The board has one huge feature, flexibility, but I doubt the board will ever be used for setting benchmark records. However, due to the stability, power consumption, CrossFire performance, and flexibility, it should make for a good mainstream board especially if the price comes down a little.
What will be bad about using the SB600 controller for RAID, instead of the Promise?
The difference in performance apparently, since you do actually have a choice between two controllers on this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by goatboy
I personally don’t use raid, I have no need for what I use my rig for. I use a single 74GB raptor as the main drive, and a 250 GB sata storage drive.
Its hardware RAID like Intel's Matrix or NV's NVRAID 0, 1, or 5, all of em' suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
Sheeeeeeeeeeeit most of the stuff that people here use isn't needed _anywhere_, but thats the whole point of this place isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Bar
Which controller were you using though? If it was onboard, then duh, what do you expect? If it was a hardware solution you probably set it up wrong (ie. stripe size...).Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
FWIW all this stuff and then some has been hashed to death in another topic:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=98643
its got benches and everything, long topic though. Long story short RAID 0 can get you appreciable performance gains if you're willing to throw enough money at it and use hardware controllers with dedicated cache.
I am going to be playing with RAID but doing it right, with an Adaptec Raid card and three 36GB SCSI 15Krpm U160s.
I know I don't "Need" it but I want to play with raid and get to know it vs just reading about it.
And I picked up all the hardware really cheap so its all good.
ahh.. i want this board.. :) hehehe :D
:woot:
thanks bingo13.. :rocker: keep it up.. :)
same here. Guess we have to wait until January to order.Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
If you can tolerate one more OT question on RAID...how would you characterize Maxtor's 1000GB and 600GB external RAID drives? I have one I haven't hooked up yet (600GB).
Crappy hardware solution?
First sighting folks....
OCUK
ETA - January 17th 2007. I can wait some more........ffs! :rolleyes:
dang stupid foreign symbols! :p: I want an american one! i cant wait, still excited that there's no caps near the socket to get in the way!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kin Hell
...now just where did I read the "American" models have more Caps than Bobby Charlton has had for England! :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by XFxGeforced
I have performed tests on the Microsoft flight simulator using a single 74GB Raptor -vs- two Raptors in a RAID0 configuration. When loading scenery, there was a consistent and repeatable 12% to 15% increase in speed on the RAID0 array. This was on a FX-57 using a DFI board.
Now, 12% to 15% isn't all that earth-shattering, but it was noticeable. The scenery was smoother overall. Did the RAID0 array make a noticeable different in the business applications I normally use.... not really.
But in the case of flight simulator, there was a difference.
Cheers!
Thanks for the honest review bingo. It really means alot to me to have someone being honest about a product rather then drooling all over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Striping any array of Hard drives effectively gives you greater throughput & will always result in faster load times, irrespective of program type. I can't believe I read an earlier post in here saying it isn't really necessary! I really can't stand the Delay you see on Single hard drive Puters after having used Striped Arrays. It's like driving around in a Ferrari for years & then going back to a Fiat 126. Another HOT tip is to put your SWAP file OFF the Boot drive. Heck, Stripe another couple of Drives for FASTER swap file access & make sure you have a PSU that can stand Lots of Hard Drives. HD's EAT PSU's for breakfast!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cascades
I'm so glad this RD600 hasn't followed the RD580 IDE RAID issues, cos back a while, I didn't think it was going to make the grade!
With a £200+ price Tag on Pre-Order & Time delays almost making this mainboard a pice of "Vapoware", users will be expecting a little more than Just a good Mainstream board. After all the Hype over the last 6 months, users are approaching realms & expectencies of this Hardware giving them a blow job! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Keep the info coming. We're gagging for it! :toast:
*edit* *pardon the "Phun" ;)
can't tell where you're going with that :p: who's bobby charlton?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kin Hell
Can't say..it'll be off Topic! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by XFxGeforced
But hey, don't you guys have Google in the US? :stick:
GTFO :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by XFxGeforced
It's Sir Bobby Charlton btw.
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Originally Posted by Kin Hell
screw manchester
just kidding.
if we have learned anything letting a company delay a product usually produces great results, its when companies like Asus shove products into the market before the cpu's are even out, and before proper testing is even done that we have pretty poor products.
Let DFI do their job, and let them produce, FINALLY, an intel product thats worth the wait, the more you rush and ask for it, the more chance they will get rushed from their own management teams to put the unfinished product out the door.
Its actually cheaper for a company to put out an unfinished product and handle RMA's than it is to spend thousands in R&D daily to produce a quality board.
let them do what they do best.
Nicely said! :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
It's getting a little alarming at this stage of proceedings to suggest they might be able to squeeze even more out of the Memory bandwidth for this board. I though Oskar University had all this sewn up!?
Some of this is DFI's doing they said Dec 15..before Xmas...not me
Dont give a date and then let it pass with 0 updates and expect people to be happy
I agree I would rather wait for a finished product than a beta
This board has been promised for how many months? 5? 6?Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
DFI is pulling a Sony, promising something extraordinary, then unable to properly deliver in timely manner. If they didn't produce enough to have them available for sale at launch, then this is a paper launch. The graphics card companies have learned not to do this anymore, and DFI needs to learn this also. I'd have rather they waited until January and had board ready to sell on the day the NDA expired. :slapass:
300€ Wtf?
No matter how "polished" the board is on release it will never meet anyones expectations and be greeted with a volley of complaints (whether merited or not). I too am disappointed that it hasn't actually appeared for purchase as it would have been a great little project over the Holiday...
This board will never live up to all the hype. At this point, people expect RD600 to do everything short of fixing them dinner and fetching their slippers after work.
What? they got rid of the best features?Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
*i too am disappointed that it isnt buyable before xmas. If it is apparently done, then I don't see why they couldnt just release it for us
Long as I can overclock my E6700 and 4x1Gb on the board I am happy. :)
This should be quoted on the 1st page of this thread and any other RD600 thread also... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
Thanks for the honest words... :clap:
i feel the RD600 will be able to clock cpu's with low fsb walls, particularly kentsfields, better than current boards due to the extra voltage options...that alone should make it the default choice.
it will somehow help alleviate searching for high fsb chips which i feel is a great benifit.
/speculation
But will it bring peace in our time?Quote:
Originally Posted by flytek
Id buy it only for the async mem oc. That plus vcore and vdimm (compared to me unmodded P5B) is enough :D
Let's hope not, since last time that happened Hitler invaded Poland and almost ruled the earth.
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Originally Posted by Speederlander
Perhaps if you changed your Sig. pic. to a Whale or Kitten, it might be a little more appropiate with your profanity about peace!. Don't try Overclocking either of these options though,....They won't work! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
Yeah, this board was really thought out, thats why they put a clock gen on it that stops at 511 fsb when thats not even close to the limit of the chipset. :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
DFI's best board was the ultra-D which was rushed and had a bunch of flaws right upon release. thier worst boards were thier ATi boards which were delayed forever and then failed to deliver.
Asus' best board is it's P5B (IMO) a board that came out fast and they constantly have worked to improve. Similar to how the ultra-d because king.
Now this board has been delayed for months and months, and it still is coming out with bios bugs, it still isnt the king conroe board. Not only that everyone already has halfway decent conroe boards giving them no reason to switch to this, meaning support for it will probably be half ass.
The fact is you can delay a board as much as you want, but in the end an immature board is still an immature board. Each motherboard has to be out in the market for a while before the bugs can get worked out.
There were two ways for this board to live up to the hype, first, it could hav beaten 975x clock for clock. OR, it could have blown the FSB out of the water, making 600 possible with the right cpu's. It has done niether. So IMO like bingo said its an ok board but it's not the super board we all have been wanting for so long.
Perhaps DFI will make a 1333 bios for the infinity, then they would have the king of all boards.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
I did the same, well i went from 2x74gb raptors to 1x160gb seagate and i cant tell one difference in speed, only i use less power, my computer is quieter, and i have 1 hard drives instead of 2. Windows might take another .5sec to load.
sadly.. its the nature of man.. :) to really want more.. :) for me.. this board is enough.. :) Iam not that extreme.. 511fsb is more than enough for me.. hehehe 9x511 :D (just wishing)
still hope to see this board in the market fast.. :) I will have this.. and then its enough for me.. :)
:woot:
If only people realize that about cpu and mobo upgrades.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
I wanna see that physics slot be put to good use
i sort of disagree, i have never had a pc that "felt" as fast as my conroe, and i dont think i would go back to anything else ATM. PAying to go from my fast 3ghz amd to my faster 3.6ghz intel was worth it, and getting a good mobo to go along with it sure would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by situman
How fast is fast enough is up to you, but while i dont really notice a difference in HDD speeds, i DO notice a difference in CPU speeds.
Same here...the jump from a 3ghz AMD to the Conroe is definitely a jump you can actually "feel" and see...not night and day but you know the money you just spent has tangible results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
Especially seeing as most of us with 3GHz A64's were on single cores, as finding a dual core capable of 3GHz back in the 3800+ and 165 days was a never ending hunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
Fastest single core A64 I ever had did 3.2ghz on water. Fastest dual core A64 I ever had did 2.8...and I've owned around 50 A64's, always trying to be selective with each.
Now I've had three four Core 2's, E6700 did 3.45, E6600 did 3.65, E6400 does 3.75, and the new E6400 I'm expecting should push 4GHz. All orthos stable of course. So I again am happy with my move to Core2. :cool:
vdroop of .006v sounds too good to be true! :D
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Originally Posted by EnJoY
Those E6400's are somethin else huh? I've got a really sweet e6400 and i want a 6600 so i can get a higher multi and go 975, but i am afraid that i wont be able to hit my 6400 speeds. :(
Hmmmmm...well it's not an Asus so I suppose it's more than possibly true :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
I'm in the same boat. I want to go BadAxe2 very badly, but I need a really good E6600 or E6700 to make proper use of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
i personally think that RD600 is a little too late to the party as others have said. My AW9D-Max does 400X9 all day long and that is really all i need. If RD600 is slower than 975X clock for clock then there is no reason to go to the trouble of switching. Wasnt DFI planning to make a 975X Lanparty board?
It's either late to the party or Johnny on the spot and tagged as "beta"...give em' credit for even following through after everyone else bailed out. Just another flavor to savor IMO. I really don't care for the other non DFI boards I've tried with Conroe and look forward to taking this puppy for a spin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
The RD600 won't set too many Pi world records being slower than the 975X. What I'm thinking however, is it has a stable 511FSB clock with async memory capabilities. Later next year when 6700's come down in price, 511FSB will do me just fine with a good clocking E6700. The opteron 146, 148, 165, & 170's didn't start hitting 3ghz right away. It was a few months before that happened. I'm hoping the Core 2 Duo's will follow the same trend. After all they've only been retail just over four months.
Yeah the board is not half as hot as I hoped. The async. mem div and Digital Pwm still make me want it though. It still has some potential to be the Ultra-D of C2D. However the Inifinty is a bit tempting for a much less. Or the Bad Axe 2, which also is cheap. I don't really want CF. Atleast if two R600 in CF will be bottlenecked (I'm not saying that they will be).
I want the board for its uniqueness.. :D unlike all of you.. this will be my last board.. :) I will be having another priorities up my sleave.. and overclocking will just have to hold.. :( ..511fsb is good for me.. and I think I like what I'm seeing at DFI.. in the DFI 975x Infinity.. we have a thread that really request DFI for a golden bios.. :D as we see now.. we just have to wait to let them produce the output that we need.. :)
ahhh.. I hope DFI RD600 will become available in retail.. my setup is itching.. :)
:woot: sir Tony please keep us posted.. :) I hope AMD didnt propose the 511 fsb limit.. :D
I hear ya. I've got to get out of this upgrade madness soon and get back to school and get a real job (the job I've got now blows more than you can imagine). I might buy a laptop in a year though and a R700 or some other nice gfx and extra 2 sticks of ram. But that's it. I hope... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
I want the Ak47 of a board, that I can have fun with tweaking and that will take a hard overclock beating 24/7 without any "bad noise" for at least 2-3 years ahead. This might be that board.
I hear what you're saying but perhaps Utopia we shall never ever see just because the latest hardware you buy today is out of date 2 months down the road. One of my concerns will be aquiring this board & then finding out ATI's Next Gen Dx10 R600 cards require Dual 16X slots for CF. Now that would take the buscuit but I'm already half expectin' it! Pessermism gets worse with age! Stay young! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Poodle
Board looks good but will it really make sense to get it ? I dont see great support for the chipset ,especially after the AMD -ATI Merger....
wow..never thought about thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Kin Hell
No matter what you get, the next big thing is always around the corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darklord
I have a solid performing ABIT AW9D-Max with two x1950xtx's. I'll give the ICFX3200 a go just because I think it will do better in 3D Gaming. If it doesn't, I can always go back, or get the next 'new' motherboard.
Looking good so far.
This board and the upcoming Abit IN-32X-Max are going to be popular boards with people using phase change and chillers. Those socket areas are just beginning for it. :)
Was wondering how I could possibly miss windwithme's photo shoot ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
I agree, its tough enough getting support in the way of bios updates once the hype of a new product wares off and the feelings between Intel and Amd will not make it any better for this board, Intel will cut off its nose to spite its face to see this board or any other Intel/Ati board fail.:fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Darklord
We the consumer are paying for the AMD/ATI merger , we should be sitting on a wealth of Intel SLI boards but we are not as Intel jumped on the ATI band wagon only to get slapped in the face by ATI.
im more worried about r600 requiring full x16 bandwidth. if so, then what motherboard? the future for intel chipsets is grim...how much is nvidia going to put into intel chipsets? because ati will be solely doing amd; or not?
will intel roll out bearlake (or boneyard?) after yorkfield launch?
Why would R600 require full x16 bandwith? AMD would be shooting themselves in the foot. I highly doubt they would require that as they would need to design a whole new chipset for Intel. With Conroe still being top dog I doubt that.Quote:
Originally Posted by justin_c
Hey Tony, why not make a dedicated RD600 Link in whichever Section, (Intel Mainboards *nudge nudge*) ....as in, a Directory?
You could then put all the RD600 based threads in there, thereby keeping em all merged in one place but still apart. After a period of time when our collective Asses are absolutely brimming with burning info, Main Point the Highs in one Master Thread.
Just trying to offer a Logical, rational, unbiased & balanced sloution. ;)
but once rd600 comes in, will it solely be designed for amd chipsets? likewise for 8900 nvidia series?
8900?Quote:
Originally Posted by justin_c
is that in the road map for nvidia
o and no
really they wont be "designed" for anybody
they will be "optimised" but not designed
like how u can use a ati card on a nvidia chipset, vise versa
it doesnt really matter, exept the crossfire and sli capabilities and chipset optimisations.
8900 is thinking too far (if its on the road map)
r600 is still far from a hard launch imo
781m transistors and 300watts of heat?
how much will it need as a psu...
they need alot of optimising to do
now lets not start the fan boy biz now shall we?Quote:
Why would R600 require full x16 bandwith? AMD would be shooting themselves in the foot. I highly doubt they would require that as they would need to design a whole new chipset for Intel. With Conroe still being top dog I doubt that.
count me in.. look what landed on my door step today.. smell of fresh PCB :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot..._RD600_049.JPG
Going to be picking at your brains Tony :D
hmm...i can't wait to see how this board affects your kentsfiels eva2000 :)
Yeah now that you mention it the GTL ref volts hopefully allow my Q6600 to go past 400FSB... i'd love for even 450FSB :D
I think most will consider it a success if it proves to be more stable and a better overclocker than the P5B-Deluxe and the best 680i boards. I want to see it head to head against the upcoming Asus Commando.
With regards to keeping all discussion regarding this board in one thread I would like to say that this is prefered by DFI. It will keep matters simple and focused. Fragmented discussion on a board that is not yet ready for purchase in stores would be inefficient and could lead to confusion. Once the board is available for sale then new threads from owners are welcome.
Thanxs for your understanding on this matter.
-DFI Support Europe.
PS: I just sent out some review samples to various medias thru-out
Europe. The wait is almost over. ;)
I hate to give bad news but maybe the next BIOS release will help when overclocking Kentsfield. ;) I have not reached 400 yet. I am getting the same results as 680i but still working on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
bingo13 - may i ask if your Kentsfield has an fsb wall below 400fsb even when using the 6x multi?
if so i wish you all the best breaking that wall with all the new cpu and fsb overvolt options :D
Just sent you a new bios Bingo13, it may help you.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
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wowwoweeee.. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldog14
ahh gimme one.. :)
So is it safe the say the limited 100 boards in the states before Christmas is not going to happen? Today if pretty much the last day you can order from an e-tailer and it ship before Christmas. You certainly won't receive anything ordered today before Christmas & I'm sure orders placed after today will not be processed until Tuesday.
I reported what i was told, if it does not happen then DFI must have their reasons for not shipping.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
I will ask again and see what the official stance is later today.
Here's what I found on dfi-street.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/show...t=71592&page=3
Thanks Tony, I understand things don't always go the way they're planned or as we're told. I mostly wondering whether I should camp in front of the pc or not this evening. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
those 100 boards was just a marketing trick to keep you focused on RD600.
And I bet they shipped them to selected users who promote DFI with pre reviews and pre tests, again, to keep your focus on RD600.