This board seems great in the beginning, but can we expect Abit to release bios on a steady pace? This is the decision maker better this board and the P5W-Dx for me.
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This board seems great in the beginning, but can we expect Abit to release bios on a steady pace? This is the decision maker better this board and the P5W-Dx for me.
yeah. i'm getting concerned the more i read this thread.
seems like getting 400+ prime/orthos stable is difficult.
wonder if a bios update will fix these issues easily.
if not, kind of makes me want to go over to the p5wdh
And why not to P5B? ;)
hehehe. yeah i could try that board. but i'd really like a 975x chipset board though.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
nothing wrong with the p5b deluxe. it's a GREAT board!
P5B is a very good board, espically for max FSB clocking. The 975X chipset has still proven to be faster than the 965 clock for clock. And since not many retail conroes are doing 4 Ghz with out phase or chilled cooling I see no need for the ability to run the FSB @ 500 mhz. The other drawback of the P5B or any 965 for that matter is no ability to run dual graphics with two full 8X or 16X lanes. As a gamer, with the current 4 Ghz limit of the conroe cpu's, the 975 chipset is the best choice for the fastest, dual graphics, 3.6 -3.8ghz everyday 3D gaming, web surfing, multimedia application, etc. cooled by air system.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
3.6GHz is a great air speed particularly with power management. @ idle you are 6 x 400 or stock E6600 speed, and when you load the CPU up or change your window profile, boom, right to 3.6. Many of the latest E6600 seem to doing that speed on lower voltage too. This one needs 1.4v. for 3.6GHz.
hi guys
i run my system almost 24/7 on 401 fsb, it dosnt pass orthos ,but realy dont care, the system is stable and i dont have any issues , only thing is that i get low 3dmark06 scores for some reasons
here is my settings, also im on air
http://files.myopera.com/hilfiger/al.../untitled2.JPG
Discovered today with my AW9D max that when you disconnect a/c power from the power supply the BIOS resets to default.
Anyone else have this issue?
sparx
I hate that, I like to turn everything off via surge protector at night and I had an Epox board that reset the CMOS everytime. So annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
i dont have issue with thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
did you forgot the cmos jumpers on clear ? or your batery is dead?
able to run at 3.6GHz+ clock, but one thing I noticed is that the vcore set in BIOS is Lower than what I've seen in Windows
one more thing, the FSB seems not very accurate (or correctly sync. I would say)
16 hours of orthos @406fsb x 9
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/ninz0rz/asdf.JPG
okay I give up, I'm gonna get back to gaming. I'll try again when I get a better bios.:(
http://img.techpowerup.org/061008/40...failure824.jpg
I must try to see if this problem copiesQuote:
Originally Posted by raju
vMCH?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
I saw many Priority 1 tests in this thread, isn't it better to run @ Priority 9?
quite possibly it is, I've never really tried, as I'm often using my pc to download files, surf the web and answer emails whilst it's running...
give it a bash if you like, I dunno how much more stressful the priority settings make the test...
regards
Raja
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnsally
nice results john, a few fsb higher than anyone else. Now people can make a decision on what they need form the board. It seems that the Asus PRO boards can definatley clock higher for Orthos use and in some cases so can the deluxe too (1.85mch version), though there are always cases that fall short.
Who know what future bios revisions will bring?
The other remaining criteria is how comfortable the more laymen overclockers are, running air overclocking with over 1.5vcore, if their cpu needs the extra voltage, for them 3.6ghz is perfectly adequate when you consider ambient temp rises in the height of summer.
regards
Raja
now testing at 412fsbx9 seems to be going strong rite now, will report tomorrow.
nice result johnsally. could you please tell me what vcore,vdim and vmch you used at 406? Thanks
why not use priority 9 for orthos johnsally?as i know priority 9 is most based to test stability cause at this priority orthos uses lot of RAM and cpu utilization than priority 1.
my settings were 1.6vcore 2.55 vdimm and 2.0 vmch. Also have a fan blowing on the northbridge. I am going to see how high i can go and am going to put a aftermarket northbridge cooler on and see if that helps or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by nop
ok, i will try priority 9 also.Quote:
Originally Posted by neoplan
Thanks johnsally.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnsally
a LOT more ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
usually do it overnight when you are sleeping
No problems here running 405x9.....
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9...restsl2.th.jpg
were looking for orthos blend test stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbodream
here is 413fsbx9 with priority on 9=) ganna leave it overnight.
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/ninz0rz/asdfg.JPG
I'm having troubles with this mobo...
There is no way to make it boot up with DDR2 PC3200 memory ? I have a pair of Micron PC3200 D9 "FatBody" sticks (they did 495Mhz Cas 4-3-2 few days ago) but the minium ratio is 1:1 and seems that the mobo doesn't allow me to run with PC3200 memory as the minium memory speed should be PC4200 (what this memory is capable of, for sure).
Do you think there is any solution ? I'm really pissed... I won't be able to use my fantastic D9 kit...
You could edit the SPD in another mobo using Thaiphoon.
That's one solution but I think I've just got an easier one. It boots correctly if a 4:5 divisor is applied. So I just need someone to mod the bios and set it with 4:5 ratio as default (after doing a cmos clear).
Who could do it for me ?
Edit: Reprogram the SPD would be better... as I would be memory limited if I'm forced to use a 4:5 divider.
Will try thaiphoon ... any GOOD guide out there ? (the included one is so simple for me :P )
Here is the saved dump if someone could modify it to change max bandwidth to 266Mhz and timings table 266Mhz 4-3-3. Many rhanks...
Thats my first results for now.I beleave the CPU needs a litle more vcore over there so now I am testing again with 1,525(1,5 before)vcore and 1,75(1,8 before)real vmch to confirm this.
I am starting to beleave that it is the CPU's that are failing in orthos at that speed and not fsb.I also want to try 8X400+fsb.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil The Greek
Thanks Phil,
In my case I know that my cpu can push 427fsb on the Asus P5WDG2 PRO, so I do think it's a wall....
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3...2511sj0.th.jpg
regards
Raja
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
heh, trouble is I only sleep 6 hours.
And I have to use my pc either side to do my admin duties.
But I will stick it on 9 anyway and still do the same.
regards
Raja
You are welcome Raja.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Althow I have lowered vmch,orthos is running now for 10h 45m but I think I won't have time to leave it for a hole 12h because a storm is comming and without a UPS system is kind of riscy to leave it running.
EDIT: What vcore/cooling ere you using in screenshot and what max temps while running orthos?
Yes mine does.. I suspect a bad battery cause I know the cmos jumper is correct. I will change the battery off an old mobo and it should work right then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparx
Only the uGuru settings, the rest stills same config for me.Quote:
Discovered today with my AW9D max that when you disconnect a/c power from the power supply the BIOS resets to default.
Anyone else have this issue?
sparx
same thing happens here -_-Quote:
Originally Posted by krampak
hey keiki,Quote:
Originally Posted by Keiki
a little OT.. in your sig.. you've use Abit and DFI board.. have you compare them clock per clock? which is a better ocer? ;) ..is 350x10 is your highest stable oc on the DFI?
yep max stable on dfi for me was 350x10. Haven't done clock to clock comparison yet but i can do it tomorrow as i get my 7950gx2 and so on :)Quote:
Originally Posted by erwinz
new bios for abit would really help too but one thing between dfi and abit for me is that abit got so much stable volts then dfi.
atm 360x10 on abit is orthos stable at least 3h and thats enough for me and 380x10 was no problem with little super pi testing only.
Here is a new one.Looks like vcore was my problem:D
Most good 975 based boards don't need vMCH over 1.6v-1.65 until you start trying to get above 415-420. my Bad Axe will go to 426 w 1.65v, 444 w/ 1.72v and 456 w/ 1.82vQuote:
Here is a new one.Looks like vcore was my problem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil The Greek
Vcore for that Orthos was 1.47 in bios, 1.53 actual.
That board is real steady over 400fsb, and with most D9GMH the memory speeds can be high right upto the limits of fsb... But the board costs more too.
regards
Raja
Guys,
BETA BIOS 13 is here. Dunno about the complete changelog. Flashed it with FlashMenu, worked fine. They added TREF to the RAM options and there's an option to dis- or enable PCIe slot 1 and 2. BIOS is dated 9/28, must be based on the alpha you have heard of.
!FLASH ON YOUR OWN RISK!
Download
AWESOME!! gonna try it tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
15+hours priority 9 413x9
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/ninz0rz/asdfgh.JPG
thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
Link to 1.3beta bios:
http://www.conman.se/M606C_13.zip
I got my Micron PC3200 reprogramed to PC5400 so now I can go 1:1
This is going well, 406 x 9 (3.66Ghz) 1.400V in bios 1:1 Cas 4-3-2 (2.2V) cooled with Thermalright Ultra 120
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/7163/33516db0.th.jpg
Thanks! Gonna try it when I get home from work! Been waiting for this one :banana: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CoNMaN
Dosflash:
awdflash xxxx.xxx /CC /CD /CP /F /R /PY /SN
xxxx.xxxx = bios file
Link to awdflash:
http://www.conman.se/awdflash.exe
Does this motherboard read the cpu temp correct,reason i ask is the last ABIT board i got was reading it to high.
I'm using 1.3 beta. Don't see any improvement by now... same OC.
Just ordered this board, a 6600, 2 gigs of Geil 4-4-4-12 PC8000, and a 7900GTO. Any tips or tricks for tweakin with this board you think may be useful to me? Should hopefully be here wednesday :woot: cant effin wait. with any luck i can run at 400fsb for 3.6, and 4:5 Ram so itll be at 1000.
lol lemme guess... IC7?Quote:
Originally Posted by clone38
EDIT: also, im having a brain fart, where on the cpu will i find the week? Id like to know to compare it to others when i start getting results of benchies.
*Looks at XFire sig* jesus ive been playin GW too much lately...
it's okay, I won't stress the RAM because I have already tested it with Memtest sometime ago...so hot.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...hen/Orthos.jpg
no improvment on the bios??? anyone test it yet?
in times of coretemp we can now read out the temps more acurate ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by clone38
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com...opic.php?t=137
I'd like to see someone test an e6400 in one of these or someone with an e6600 with advanced cooling like LN or DI.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alonso
refer to my above screenshot, you can see there is a 10C difference between Core Temp and Abit Guru
hmmm seems everyon in the 4ghz club went with X6800's or 6700 with this board & extreme cooling. No 6400, you rhte only 6600, & my board won't do 445:(Quote:
Originally Posted by malficar
I don't know if it's the 1.3 bios or not (i didn't try it before) but my system goes weird if I use 1.500V or higher. It has killed my raid setup ! i'll try to flash 1.2 final again and try it again.
this new bios Sicness posted is not beta...it is the alpha 13 as can be seen by the extention M606C_13.A02
my board is on its way and i gonna pair it wif my e6400 that does 3.45 @ 1.375vcore on biostar 965p deluxe.. stable orthos 14hrs.
I think big problem bios AW9D MAX 12 or higher version NOTHING PCI-E Lock !!
It was the bios. Returned to 1.2 final an now there is no problem with vcore. 1.725V in bios, Vch 1.85v, vddr 2.3v, 4Ghz (446x9) 1:1 Cas 4-3-2, on AIR:
http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/5694/30609aq3.th.jpg
This mobo works good! :)
Now passing OTRHOS at 3.6Ghz 1.4v in bios.
well i hoped that abit had already fixed this 7950gx2 and uguru problem but it's still there -_- I'm talking about this nasty bug what is that when u got uguru on in windows and u got 7950gx2 card it only works in single gpu mode and after u turn off uguru it can work multi-gpu mode...
Cripes!!!! The only way I was gonna stick with this board for my game was to buy a 7950gx2 card so I can free up the pci slot for sound but still game with sli. I'm thinking more & more of selling this darn board:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Keiki
i have this board but haven't built my system yet but if i understand what you're saying correctly...Quote:
Originally Posted by Keiki
if you enable uguru in windows then only one gpu works on the 7950gx2 and if you turn if off, then both gpu's work.
can this problem simply be fixed by turning off uguru before you run 3d/game benches? OR does the 1 core of the gpu remain disabled until you reboot and leave uguru off?
yep luckily u can "fix" it by just turning off uguru when u play/bench but still weird and stupid bug.Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
yeah. that is kind of silly. didn't realize a bug like this existed. interesting indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keiki
not so many aw9d +7950gx2 users out there so that's the reason it's not so well known yet ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by shimmishim
(and now is time to test this 1.3 bios)
My system:
Abit AW9D-MAX, X6800 L624, corsair 2x1024 8500C5, PoV 7950GX2.
Some picīs:
http://www.conman.se/x6800/PICT2387liten.JPG
http://www.conman.se/x6800/PICT2391liten.JPG
http://www.conman.se/x6800/PICT2392liten.JPG
http://www.conman.se/x6800/PICT2397liten.JPG
http://www.conman.se/x6800/PICT2399liten.JPG
http://www.conman.se/x6800/PICT2402liten.JPG
http://www.conman.se/x6800/PICT2403liten.JPG
Right now runing SuperPi @ 4,4Ghz
hey about that 1.3 bios it seems to be .A02 file do i just change it to .bin or what?
awdflash M606C_13.A02 /CC /CD /CP /F /R /PY /SN
that will do it :toast:
yea but can't i flash in windows using flashmenu? too lazy to find working floppy...Quote:
Originally Posted by CoNMaN
More safe to do dos flash, some have hade bad flash in windwos with aw9d-max :slapass:
please try to do dos flash :fact:
and i did \o/ but still one thing i was hoping to get fixed is that i could use lower multi but nope still buggy as hell :(Quote:
Originally Posted by CoNMaN
The board is less buggy:
@ 1:1 and
@ less than 395fsb or moore than 405fsb try that.
SuperPi 1Mb below 11 sec (4,62Ghz)
http://www.conman.se/x6800/pi1mbliten.JPG
SuperPi 32Mb 12,37 sec (4,40Ghz)
http://www.conman.se/x6800/pi32mbliten.JPG
Everest, 10700 Mb/s (4,62Ghz)
http://www.conman.se/x6800/everestliten.JPG
well first thing i must do is cool down this 7950gx2 beast, man it's hot hot hot
Works perfect with flash in windows:fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by CoNMaN
I've flashed from windows all times too (using winflash).
I'm the only one with this problem ?
My hard drives shutdowns every time I reset my computer ! This makes me nuts, I need to wait about 8 segons when Raid is loading every time... (they don't power up at POST, not until intel raid post is loading... )
is that with the 1.3 or 1.2 bios?? i noticed that as well... not sure if it's always or just sometimes...
not bad, i have flash to new beta bios, max mulitpiler to 31x,
http://img.oc.com.tw/281d03/20061011...886152903.jpeg
8246 mhz, that`s like a 1M pi of 5 sec :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hicookie
haha, i wish i can do that:D ,,but, at least 15x aircooling is not problem to me;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
http://img.oc.com.tw/281d03/20061011...621589969.jpeg
i have a strange yet extremely annoying problem with this board. I have since reformatted twice only to have the same results. I change the windows appearance to "Classic Windows" to get rid of all the cartoony garbage, but 50% of the time upon a reboot it boots back up to Windows XP Theme. WTF! Im getting pretty annoyed here. This didnt happen at all with my DFI board. I dont even understand how a motherboard could cause this...
Hey I had that happen too! I thought it was something else like a bad windows install. I changed to the XP style but in grey and kinda forgot the problem until now. If anyone has some info there are at least 2 of us that would appreciate it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
lol, so it IS a board issue!
nice new Abit's AB9 Pro and AW9D MAX motherboard reviews
http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q4...2/index.x?pg=1
the highest they could get the Max was 350? something wasnt right...
Tell me if I am wrong but, did they really test the motherboards without updating the BIOS? :confused:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
Uh wasnt that already shown here that its an SLI connector?Quote:
The "Dual Graphic Link" may have also been included for future CrossFire products, which ATI has admitted will move to an internal connector.
I'd still like to see a formal review of the AW9D non-MAX.
they used 1.2. look at their setup page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight
Sorry that I was not clear. I meant for the P5W-DH. I thought it should be like 14xx? Could the newer bios change the scores to be better?
sorry but what do you mean exactly?? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazzan
another overnight Blend Test, tested with lower vMCH (1.65v) & vdimm (2.1v).
P.S. I forgot to set back the RAM timing to 4-4-3-8, just forget it.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...en/blend-1.jpg
Actually I think it is locked @ 100mhz. If you try to change it in using guru in windows, system crashes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazzan
kenofstephen,
you have had impressive results with is board, but considering your using an ES chip I can't see where its doing much good as a comparison since retail is what's available for purchase for most people.
Hi Nemesis,Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
from my observation, there are a lot of good B2 overclockers, especially the L628B121 batch, also, my ES is not that good, just I have no money to get a retail. :(
looking forward to B3 Stepping 7, I expect it will be even better.