ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

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11-19-2006, 02:59 AM
metalazzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by hot_fifty

RMA.. hmm at stock speed I dont get the 1x problem, so RMA is not possible

just fry it with a 9V battery on the chipset :banana:
11-19-2006, 03:33 AM
hot_fifty

hmm how. There most be an easier way
11-19-2006, 05:21 AM
TI66ER

i have mine at 460fsb,and my card is still at x16 pci-e.this board/chip will go upto 535fsb,i will have to see if and were it drops to x1 pci-e.

my chip is a e6300 l629b405

http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/publ...03pciel197.jpg
11-19-2006, 05:37 AM
hot_fifty

you have nvidia gfx. hmm
11-19-2006, 09:00 AM
TI66ER

still seems to be at 16x pci-e at 500fsb too

http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/publ...229500t197.jpg

EDIT-and at 540fsb,still x16 pci-e

http://www.techpowerup.com/ocdb/data/216/cpuz3.gif

http://www.techpowerup.com/ocdb/data/216/cpuz1.gif
11-19-2006, 09:32 AM
heikis

people, please tell me your voltage settings to run 400FSB stable. mine cant do it at 1,45V MCH (no post), but seems to run fine at 1,55V- that MCH voltage should be ok? other voltages are set to minimum (except CPU @ 1,4V)

anybody running 400FSB (400 only, i dont care about 401+) @ 1,45V MCH?
:cool:
11-19-2006, 09:34 AM
Cappie

Quote:

Originally Posted by gundam789

Hi, if you have some time can you tell me what are some things that i can safely disable in bios plz.

- Legacy Floppy A drive(don't need that anymore after you installed windows)
- USB wifi/USB 9,10(akward placing and noone connects these)
- GBE lan port 2(or 1 depending on where you plug in your internet)
- Firewire 1394(disable if you haven't got any such devices)
- HD audio(disable this for certain if you are running PCI soundcard)
- Remove boot devices you don't boot from in that startup list(stuff like ATAPI cdrom, Floppy A drive, ... only put your windows disk here, if you ever need to boot from cdrom or whatever just reenable it)

I am sure there's some more you can disable, these are just the ones I did.
11-19-2006, 10:37 AM
hot_fifty

Quote:

Originally Posted by TI66ER

still seems to be at 16x pci-e at 500fsb too

http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/publ...229500t197.jpg

EDIT-and at 540fsb,still x16 pci-e

http://www.techpowerup.com/ocdb/data/216/cpuz3.gif

http://www.techpowerup.com/ocdb/data/216/cpuz1.gif

Its a buggy GPU or MB, at 380FSB approx the PCI-E 1x kicks in
11-19-2006, 11:10 AM
metalazzo

well, I guess we had not any luck with this mb :/
maybe I'll wait for NF6 650 based mb...
11-19-2006, 11:22 AM
rob725

For the raid, you should be able to set to raid in bios, then boot with setup and choose windows repair and install drivers using f6.
11-19-2006, 12:28 PM
Kakulukia

Quote:

Originally Posted by vladman

Thanks Kakulukia, you also replied quickly to some of my other threads. :)

But JMicron causes my optical drives to be recognised as SCSI devices? Some people say this in turn causes them to be slow and not work optimally? Also, I don't use RAID and certainly not on JMicron, so do I need those drivers at all? Is it a question of simply living with that "unknown device" in Device Manager?

Thanks again!

Sry for late reaction.

As i said, my sata dvd burner is working as good as my other ide burner.
But, if you experience/think that is not working optimal you can unistall asus jmicron driver and let windows install its default driver.

2shmmishim,
pci1x issue is that ur pci x16 slot doesnt work at x16 anymore but x1, that results in low bandwith, which is bad (for games :) ).

Many ppl fix this by increasing the pci x freq (try up to 115MHz).

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaPaKaH

another P5B Deluxe (BIOS 0804) bug report:

on Vmem=2.15V and lower the mem can`t hit more than 470MHz @ 1:1 , 4:5 , 2:3 (did not try another dividers) no matter what timings

Tried : 2x512MB D9DQT , 2x1024MB D9GMH
Timings (MemSet): 5-4-4-4-10-5-32-3-14-11-6-8-5-5 (tried 5-6-6-6-24-... = the same thing)

BTW - both mem kits can hit 500MHz w/these timings @ 2.15V easy (tested @ P5W64-WS)

this doesnt sound like a bug.
Have you also tried a higher voltage for northbrige?

I also use 2.15 @ 476. Yesterday I tested my ram and came up to 550~~600 (2:3, didnt test 4:5), i set the vdimm to 2.4V.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cappie

- Legacy Floppy A drive(don't need that anymore after you installed windows)
- USB wifi/USB 9,10(akward placing and noone connects these)
- GBE lan port 2(or 1 depending on where you plug in your internet)
- Firewire 1394(disable if you haven't got any such devices)
- HD audio(disable this for certain if you are running PCI soundcard)
- Remove boot devices you don't boot from in that startup list(stuff like ATAPI cdrom, Floppy A drive, ... only put your windows disk here, if you ever need to boot from cdrom or whatever just reenable it)

I am sure there's some more you can disable, these are just the ones I did.

I have disabled the same as cappie except usb wifi, and have set my windows disk as first device.

You also need to disable all cpu settings except vanderpool, cpu tm, execute disable bit.
11-19-2006, 01:08 PM
Millyons

flashing to 614 and then to 0804 didnt help me with the x1 issue :(
11-19-2006, 01:18 PM
kwalker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Millyons

flashing to 614 and then to 0804 didnt help me with the x1 issue :(

Thats a bummer:mad:

So far I haven’t had a single problem for three days running.
My procedure was a complete system reset before I flashed 0614 and same before 0804.
I'm sure you did the same but I thought I would mention it anyway.
I believe this is bios related and the system needs a full reset upon reboot to stop the 1X width error as in 0614.
I'm hopeful that Asus gets this fixed
:cool:
11-19-2006, 01:21 PM
shimmishim

hmm... i've installed the jmicron drivers and when i uninstall and try to install something else, it keeps trying to install the jmicron ones...

any way to work around this?
11-19-2006, 01:26 PM
kwalker

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmishim

hmm... i've installed the jmicron drivers and when i uninstall and try to install something else, it keeps trying to install the jmicron ones...

any way to work around this?

it seemed to work when I removed all traces of jmicron in the add and remove programs in the control pannels .
you could try a registy search if your comfortable with reg edit.
11-19-2006, 01:52 PM
-n7-

I just don't get the 16x issue.

It makes no sense.

Some ppl can't get rid of it, others like myself, can't produce it.
11-19-2006, 02:03 PM
gybp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malk

Remove the Jmicron driver and install the windows standard driver instead, i had same problem, and when i did this my drives showed up as IDE again.

i just dont see that option... i only see the jmicron driver
11-19-2006, 02:10 PM
rastaseb

Quote:

Originally Posted by -n7-

I just don't get the 16x issue.

It makes no sense.

Some ppl can't get rid of it, others like myself, can't produce it.

the problem appears when vmch is too high!
For me at 1.45 no matter, the mobo always boot with the linkwidth at x16
at 1.55, the problem appears (x1)

not sure this probleme would be solved with a new bios!
i think it's more an hardware aspect and Asus will perhaps release new revision of p5b
11-19-2006, 02:19 PM
este

I have a 1900XT with occasional 1X issues. (Tried two different 1900XTs)

Was having problems with cold boot and fixed that by setting PCIe to 96Mhz.

Now, I only have issues with 1X if its after an unstable oc, or some random boots as well.

But its not that bad. I know right away if its working, once windows loads the screen blacks out and comes back on when in 16x, doesn't happen in 1x.

Anyone know if there is a performance hit going to 96Mhz ?

edit: forgot to mention, that I'm certain this is not a 1 settings problem, I think its a combination of settings etc/.
11-19-2006, 02:55 PM
bigpun

i got a question on temps...
is it true that the p5b dlx temperatur sensors read about 10degrees more then e.g. Gigabyte boards?

im asking cuz i got dualprime 67degrees on both cores running an E6400 @ 7x500, scythe mine cooling with 1000rpm 120mm Yate Loon fan.

are these temps critical?
on idle i have about 39 degrees on both cores.
11-19-2006, 02:58 PM
Millyons

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwalker

Thats a bummer:mad:

So far I haven’t had a single problem for three days running.
My procedure was a complete system reset before I flashed 0614 and same before 0804.
I'm sure you did the same but I thought I would mention it anyway.
I believe this is bios related and the system needs a full reset upon reboot to stop the 1X width error as in 0614.
I'm hopeful that Asus gets this fixed
:cool:

i just loaded setup defaluts, flashed with afudos to 0614, cleared the bios with the pus off, loaded setup defaults and flashed back to 0804, i didnt go into windows or anything like that with 0614

Quote:

Originally Posted by rastaseb

the problem appears when vmch is too high!
For me at 1.45 no matter, the mobo always boot with the linkwidth at x16
at 1.55, the problem appears (x1)

not sure this probleme would be solved with a new bios!
i think it's more an hardware aspect and Asus will perhaps release new revision of p5b

all my voltages are auto (except cpu and mem)

does anyone know what are the default values for those when they are auto and does the mobo change them by any chance when raising the fsb
11-19-2006, 02:59 PM
Pyr0

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigpun

i got a question on temps...
is it true that the p5b dlx temperatur sensors read about 10degrees more then e.g. Gigabyte boards?

im asking cuz i got dualprime 67degrees on both cores running an E6400 @ 7x500, scythe mine cooling with 1000rpm 120mm Yate Loon fan.

are these temps critical?
on idle i have about 39 degrees on both cores.

67 degrees is a little hot for my liking...
yes the asus p5b reads temps higher than the gig boards, but the gig temp sensors are really bad (reading far too low) in my experience using a ds3
try coretemp instead
11-19-2006, 03:18 PM
bigpun

hmm
im using core temp and these 67 degrees are outta it.
argh i dont wanna uprade to watercooling...:-( and also dont want to reduce my clock...
11-19-2006, 03:23 PM
serious1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cappie

Another little test I ran, test time not on my AHCI windows but a little test on my new RAID0 windows. To test my theory further about Jmicron liking a ATA HD running from the IDE I got following results,

NEC IDE burner as master and no ATA HD = 1,8 bars
NEC IDE burner as slave and no ATA HD = 7,1 bars
NEC IDE burner as master and ATA HD as slave = 1,2 bars
NEC IDE burner as cable select and no ATA HD = 7,1 bars
NEC IDE burner fully disconnected from mobo and ATA HD running as slave = 7,5 splash bars
NEC IDE burner fully disconnected from mobo and ATA HD running as master = 1,5 bars
No devices on Jmicron and Jmicron controller disabled in bios = 1,4 bars

So again here, the theory holds up, the fastest I can get is 1,2 bars and this with ofcourse an ATA HD running from the Jmicron IDE channel. Maybe its indeed a problem with this Nec burner, anyone that has less than 1 bar on the P5B-Deluxe shout me a PM what DVD burner you have. I might borrow one somewhere so I can put an end to this.

thanks for the info. i'll try these settings and report back. i boot off a ide hard drive and i have the same dvd burner as you do:).
11-19-2006, 03:39 PM
este

Quote:

hmm
im using core temp and these 67 degrees are outta it.
argh i dont wanna uprade to watercooling...:-( and also dont want to reduce my clock...

Well, guess you have your answer then :)

Intel made the chip throttle at 85ºc. So by my reasoning, while 70ºc (15 degree from near critical mass :) ) isn't good for it, I have little reseveration about running it there.

Do you REALLY plan on keeping it for 5 years ? If so, then reduce your clock, otherwise those seem like perfectly reasonable temps to ME.

Also, my coretemp or TAT temps are never more then 4ºc from my AIProbe or other utils. I'm using a scythe infinity.

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