Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

I'm just wondering for everyone that has an Gigabyte UD5 motherboard and has overclocked their BCLK to over 180 if your system's posts a few times before actually booting into windows on cold boots?

I find that if I raise my VTT voltage over 1.28V and have my BCLK overclocked it will actually turn on the system for a few secs then shut down and restart again and then finally post. Even when its below this threshold the 2 digit display on the motherboard will reset a few times before it successfully posts without having to completely shut down and restart.

Just wondering if this was normal behavior. I'm using the F5e bios right now.

Thanks!

I know my Extreme version does a double post when I have it overclocked, not sure what point it started at. It will start up part way for about 5 sec, then power down and start again. I really notice it on my build because I hear my pump fire up, stop suddenly, then fire up again.

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Originally Posted by Bluefusion

I'm just wondering for everyone that has an Gigabyte UD5 motherboard and has overclocked their BCLK to over 180 if your system's posts a few times before actually booting into windows on cold boots?

I find that if I raise my VTT voltage over 1.28V and have my BCLK overclocked it will actually turn on the system for a few secs then shut down and restart again and then finally post. Even when its below this threshold the 2 digit display on the motherboard will reset a few times before it successfully posts without having to completely shut down and restart.

Just wondering if this was normal behavior. I'm using the F5e bios right now.

Thanks!

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AFAIK they all do this, whether it is memory strap or what that causes it I don't know.

Mark

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Originally Posted by SteveRo

I have a new toy to play with over the coming weeks.
Need to insulate the mobo and cpu first, planning on going subambient, at least for testing.
Flat out and sweating I expect the boreas to get cpu temps down close to single digit C at idle and ??? at load.
I will probably start a new thread over in the tec cooling forum, first pics :) -

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I started a new thread for the Boreas Assessment at - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post3649401

anyone else notice it take unusually long at the IDE device loading portion of the bios screen? Sits there for about 20 seconds, I thought it was frozen the first time it did it.

Bios F5F

I have to ask about this QPI/VTT...have any one measured the real volt? I have noticed that most of us using this board have to raise it over 1.35V (intels max recom.) to OC over 4GHz. I had to with my 920.....1.4V was perfect. With this 965 I can see the same behaviour....up to 4GHz it rather easy......but after that!? With other board as R2E for example they run below 1.3V. I have a nice chip but it need lot more voltage on this board than on R2E.

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Originally Posted by Bobbylite

how f5g working out

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It's what I'm on now, and it is the only other one I've tried aside from F3. It's considerably better too.

So what is the changes in F5f Bios for the Extreme?

Forgive me for I haven't had time to go through all 77 pages of this.

But could someone sum up all the current problems with the EX58 UD5 using the latest bios?

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Originally Posted by LazyBum

So is anyone using the AHCI for their drives, or is it not worthwhile? I have had it both ways, not sure there is really any performance bonus to speak of. I know that the AHCI bios detecting drives BS is getting on my nerves, why the hell can't it remember what drives are connected instead of making my boot time 15 sec longer :mad:

I haven't had a lot of time to play around, 180x20 went pretty smooth, but getting to 190 has been a mass of BSODs. I've never seen this many blue screens trying to tune a board. On all my other boards the stress testing app would let me know there was an error, this board just gives a BSOD or reboots itself :( It's kind of frustrating, tuning is a lot harder when the machine hides information from you. Maybe I am having more trouble since I am using 6GB with HT still turned on, it seems a lot of folks are only running 3GB.

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you need more qpi/vtt voltage, i can run 215mhz with 12gb if i give enough qpi/vtt voltage, for 24/7 im on 1.375V with 12gb, anything less is unstable.

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Originally Posted by Vega

I have to ask about this QPI/VTT...have any one measured the real volt? I have noticed that most of us using this board have to raise it over 1.35V (intels max recom.) to OC over 4GHz. I had to with my 920.....1.4V was perfect. With this 965 I can see the same behaviour....up to 4GHz it rather easy......but after that!? With other board as R2E for example they run below 1.3V. I have a nice chip but it need lot more voltage on this board than on R2E.

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I have the same experience, maybe not the same number but close to. Latest BIOS I tested with was F5e I think. I just sold my CPU so I cannot do a comparision with F5g on the Extreme board.

new bios f5g for extreme.. remove fake boot!!! :D:D:D

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Originally Posted by Kimi.Rk

new bios f5g for extreme.. remove fake boot!!! :D:D:D

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So what is the changes in F5g Bios for the Extreme?
other than removes fake boot.:up:

Hmm... gonna see if i can recover my mobo with this bios... if boot up XD

Is there yet working version of easytune?
I still get that same error with X64 Vista.

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Originally Posted by Bobbylite

anyone else notice it take unusually long at the IDE device loading portion of the bios screen? Sits there for about 20 seconds, I thought it was frozen the first time it did it.

Bios F5F

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Yes I noticed this, I have an IDE hard drive on UD3R and I thought it had froze up at boot and reset it the first time. After waiting awhile it will finally boot...

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Originally Posted by BulldogPO

Is there yet working version of easytune?
I still get that same error with X64 Vista.

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maybe are you using a not original os....:rolleyes:


with my vista home premium x64 work fine easytune bundled with mobo:)


bye

Easytune worked OK on my Vista Business x64 but I uninstalled all the Gigabyte utilities. That update prompt on every boot (with no new version available) was annoying the crap out of me.:shakes:

started playing with my i7 920 got 4.5Ghz on extreme with official F4 bios http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=507897 where are those bios F4j F5g etc please :)

why change envy? f5f is junk for me. Ive had the best luck on f4 for sure

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Originally Posted by Bobbylite

why change envy? f5f is junk for me. Ive had the best luck on f4 for sure

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thank you Bobbylite ill keep F4 for now:up:, everything is working just fine 100% stable still running prime. linpack was 100% everytime, mind check my temp and tell me if its ok? there is 5ºc difference betwin core 1&4 - 2&3 is this normal?

http://www.saunders.fr/images/oc.jpg

my settings
Batch # 3838A937
CPU Vcore 1.375v in bios
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.335v
CPU PLL 1.86v
DRAM 1.64v
PCIE 1.5v
QPI PLL 1.14v
IOH Core 1.16v
ICH I/O 1.58v
ICH Core 1.14v

100% stable linpack. occt 2h
running prime stable will see if tomorrow is still running
thx to ReverendMaynard his setting helped me out find mine:p:

Well, I am having memory issues with my board. I can get my ram memtest stable but not in windows. I flashed to the F4 bios to see if that would help, and so far it hasn't. Here are my settings:

for DDR1910:
CPU Ratio 20
Turbo and HT both Enabled
QPI Link 36x
Uncore 20x (3820)
Isosync On
Bclk 191
Perforance: Std.
Spd 10
Timings 8 8 8 20 1t
Loadline Enable
Vcore 1.40625
QPI 1.395
IOH Auto
VDIMM 1.75

These settings are memtest stable for at least 30 passes of test 5 (that's all I've run up to now). I've also tried DDR 1528 with no luck as well. The only differences in the settings are:
SPD 8
Timings 7 7 7 20 1t
VTT 1.375
VDIMM 1.66

This issue is starting to drive me a little crazy.

What ram are you using and what is stock for it? Have you tried 1528mhz at 8,8,8,24 1t, uncore 16 or 17x along with VTT1.375 and VDIMM 1.66. If that is stable, then you can work from there or is your ram stock CAS 7 at 1600 like mine, and therefore should work at 1.65Vdimm at CAS 7.

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Originally Posted by Envy

thank you Bobbylite ill keep F4 for now:up:, everything is working just fine 100% stable still running prime. linpack was 100% everytime, mind check my temp and tell me if its ok? there is 5ºc difference betwin core 1&4 - 2&3 is this normal?

http://www.adriano-saunders.com/images/oc.jpg

my settings
Batch # 3838A937
CPU Vcore 1.375v in bios
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.335v
CPU PLL 1.86v
DRAM 1.64v
PCIE 1.5v
QPI PLL 1.14v
IOH Core 1.16v
ICH I/O 1.58v
ICH Core 1.14v

100% stable linpack. occt 2h
running prime stable will see if tomorrow is still running
thx to ReverendMaynard his setting helped me out find mine:p:

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You have a very nice chip there man!! :up: :up:
What can u say about IOH Core and ICH XXX settings...have they big impact on your OC? ATM I run them on auto! :rolleyes:

I left them on auto as well. This is on the UD4P and i920 3842A310 @ 200x21 1.5vcore. These chips get HOT. None of the C2Qs got near 50c stressed with my water loop. This puppy just passed 50c after 45mins of P95 small FFT.