You do know that Ket just copies memory tables and any major bios changes he attemps usally results in ppl losing there boards, I realalize there is a risk involed doing anything but it seems he has borked alot of boards ...someting maybe you should consider b4 trashing your cherry board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I tried a MIIF bios he did, it actually ran worse:rofl:
I'm on rampage. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77
ROFL, woah! Scary stuff. :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Grnfinger, my G.Skill F2-8500CLD5-4GBPK arrived today. I dropped them in at 1128, and they gobbled that :banana::banana::banana::banana: up. I can't thank you enough for your help. I did notice, though, that at AUTO my sticks wanted some tighter advanced timings than you gave in your PM to me. I'm guessing for stability? I haven't done a torture test yet, so I'll keep you posted.
The 4x1 PC2-8500 Dominators should be here by Thursday, and I'll give a head-to-head at that time. Here is a run I just did. Right after OS loaded, I was over 9.7GB/s on read and copy, but it's still a way's off from my Ballistix, which could do over 10 on all three for shorter latency. Still, for the money, these are some great sticks.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/e...Capture-44.jpg
Zucker, I know you're on RF BIOSes. I was just wondering if you've tried any of the MF for your issue... you know, just out of curiosity.
I'm on a rampage formula, physically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77
Yeah, we all love those G.skills; I think Grnfinger gave you the timings for the PI series, those are a little looser. I have your ram, they can run very high on the frequency and very stable. :up:
Oh. Now I understand. Haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I can't wait to compare these sticks to the Dominators. IIRC, they swapped the Micron D9s after the first couple months to Powerchip... or something. Do you know what's in our G.Skills? I miss the cool lights from the Ballistix Tracers. I know that sounds really stupid, but the under-desk lighting would change significantly from RAM activity with all four modules installed.
The G.Skills have powerchips in them. I did take mine out for these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231211 cheap and fast. I'm currently running 8GB of these (4x2GB) 1:1 @ DDR2 942 with the following timingsQuote:
Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77
4-4-3-9-1-2-1
7-2-4-4-5-4-5
11-4-1-4-4
I'm yet to see any such timings from any 2x2GB sticks on the market. I hear they have qimonda chips.
Yes my bad I posted the PI timing, I'll hunt arounf for the other setup.
My Corsairs are vers 1.1 Micron D9GMH best kit of ram ever!
Sadly I have a 1x1GB kit, and would sell my soul for another matching kit
Zucker2k I thought GSkills 8500cl5d's were Micron D9GKX
Hehe. I sold my kit on eBay when I upgraded from 2 to 4GB because I couldn't find a matching Micron kit. Maybe I can track down that shipping address, and we can go over there with some eggnog (and a baseball bat).Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
*Sniff* Come back, sweeties!
http://www.overclock.net/gallery/dat...m/CIMG5254.JPG
Woah, I wish. No, they're powerchips.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
You're quite the thug aren't you? :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dostoyevsky77
Edit: I clocked my first dominators PC2-8500s to DDR2 1400+ on my Asus P5E. Those had D9GMHs.
I cant't go over 433 :((( and hoped that the bios could help same thing with AM 1302 :(((Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
so there is hope :))))
Nothing seems to be working well, most of the time it gets stuck and the LCD Poster still shows "EN SETUP."Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
List your parts please, bios, and what clocks you want. Please list ram specs too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
Board: Maximus Formula
BIOS: Rampage 0701
CPU: E8400 VID 1.2500
Memory: 2x1GB OCZ FlexXLC 9200 (D9GMH)
CPU Cooler: OCZ Vendetta 2
For right now, I just want to get 533x7.5 stable with the memory at 1:1; once I can get that I'll try the memory on the 333/800 strap as it can do 1280. I eventually hope to at least be able to bench 542FSB with memory at 650MHz.
Ai Overclock Tuner : ManualQuote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7.5
FSB Frequency : 533
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- 1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
Set both clockskews on CHA/CHB to 300
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45~60 (you can tighten later)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : STRONGER
Set PL to 9
CPU Voltage : ? Mess around with these, you know your chip best
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : Try 1.65 ~ 1.70 (you can lower it later; the objective is to see what it'll take to boot itso you can fine-tune settings later)
DRAM Voltage : 2.20v
FSB Termination Voltage : Try .1v higher than vcore
South Bridge Voltage : 1.100
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : .67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7.5
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Goodluck.
I gave it a try last night with most of your settings, a few changes here and there, but no go. I was pretty tired so I'll have to try again after work today.
Start going down on the fsb till it starts to post, you can then try individual voltages and voila, you should see what's holding you. I have a feeling your not giving it either much vcore, vdimm. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
Well it's an E0 E8400, so ~4GHz (533x7.5) shouldn't need that much vcore, maybe 1.28V real, at least it didn't on the DFI P35.
Well, you do have it to give it what it needs to run on this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
I finally got around to flashing the BIOS on my Maximus Formula from the 0602 version it shipped with. I tried before going to 1201, but my overclocks would never stick and reset to stock at reboot, so I reverted back to 0602 because it worked. Well, I got the Rampage 0701 BIOS working, so I want to tweak my setup. For now, I just stuck in my settings that worked for 3.6GHz on the old BIOS and it seems to work just fine. I want to get back to 4.05GHz and then tweak it. I never FULLY tweaked it on the old BIOS, so I want to try to now.
Pertinent hardware is as follows (if anything else is needed, it's in the signature).
ASUS Maximus Formula (Rampage Formula BIOS 0701)
E8400 (C0 stepping, Batch#Q746A381, 1.1125VID)
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
It idles ~40C at 3.6GHz, and I can't remember load temperatures to be honest, but it was running fine at 4.05GHz loaded on the old BIOS. If I maximize fan speed, it idles ~4C lower.
4GB (2x 2GB) Corsair XMS2
Since there's so many Corsair XMS2 RAM types, here's a link. It's the worst of the types. I'm pretty sure it maxes out a little over 950MHz (highest overclock I've ever done was 4.32GHz, but it wasn't exactly stable), but, I've never tinkered with timings much.
BIOS settings are as follows with my current temporary 3.6GHz overclock, and I'll note the differences for when it was at 4.05GHz.
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
FSB Frequency : 400MHz (was 450MHz for previous 4.05GHz overclock)
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400MHz
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 800MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18 (it can do 12 at 3.6GHz/400MHz FSB with 1.86V in the BIOS which really is ~1.9V, but for 4.05GHz, I think it'll need to be left at 18)
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: N/A (not sure, whatever it defaults to)
Ai Clock Twister : N/A (not sure, whatever it defaults to)
CPU Voltage : 1.2V set in BIOS so ~1.8V real for 3.6GHz. 1.32V set in BIOS so 1.3V real for 4.05GHz.
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge Voltage : 1.35V for 3.6GHz. I think 4.05GHz needed a bit more like 1.39V or something.
DRAM Voltage : 1.186v (results in 1.9v on the old BIOS) for 3.6GHz and 2.086 (results in 2.1V) for 4.05GHz
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO (not sure about this BIOS, but on the old one, it had a drop/droop of ~.1V)
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
All of the Intel Speedstep and stuff is enabled.
Maybe you should check to see the actual voltages being produced based on what you're choosing. This board mad overvolts, so be careful and make sure you know your actual voltages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
Right off the bat (in my first post here ;) ) I want to thank everyone who's contributed to this thread. The information here allowed me, a complete N00B at overclocking, BIOSes, RAM timings, and so forth, to take my first pc build from a Maximus Formula to a "Rampage Formula" with the 0308 BIOS.
I took these settings from some of the many suggestions in this thread. Unfortunately, I had to set a lot of them to 'Auto' just to get 8x425 to post, boot and test stable in OCCT and Prime95.
I'm beginning my first "real" overclock (real in the sense that I'm not using the standard/automatic Asus OC settings to bump things up for me) and would appreciate some input. As I said, I'm really new at this so I thought I'd post up my settings for now in case someone notices some glaring problems and/or has some suggestions. My goal is to hit 3.6 or maybe 3.8 Ghz (on air cooling if that's possible). For now, all I can manage is 3.4Ghz (8x425) without getting BSOD (posts OK) when window tries to load.
8x425
Here are some screenshots of Everest and CPUZ:Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- Auto
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency :
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :
Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45
DRAM Voltage : 2.06
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.50
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage :
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support : Disabled
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...g?t=1229540610
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...g?t=1229540668
Just got off the phone with Asus.
Seems after 3 tries they agree my SE is borked. Waiting now on the email of options for replacement boards......
What ya going to get? (hoping)
This is just frustrating. I can get 525FSB semi-stable, and by that I mean sometimes it will hang on DET DRAM, but I can press the restart button and it will post and run memtest which showed no errors, but if I go to 530 or above, nothing.
Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : 7.5
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
FSB Frequency : 533
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1080
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : Auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : Auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.35V
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50V
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65V
DRAM Voltage : 2.20V
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40V
South Bridge Voltage : 1.100V
Loadline Calibration : Disabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.57x~0.67x
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50V
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
:shocked: Unbelievable. They better be giving you an i7 iteration. :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
xxDayTrader, try these to see if your RAM isn't holding you back. Changes are in Blue and bold.
I suggest taking RAM out of the equation as a start. I'm not sure for CPU PLL or FSB Termination. Maybe try Auto, but maybe that's a bad idea. Definitely fix your South Bridge voltage though, and try taking the RAM out of the equation to narrow it down to the board or CPU.Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 425
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto 400MHz
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2- Auto DDR2 850MHz
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency :
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :
Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Auto
CPU Voltage : 1.45
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45
DRAM Voltage : 2.06
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.50 (Unless that's a typo, that's way too high. This might be why Windows is BSODing. This should be ~1.05V)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2_REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5V (This is the one that should be 1.5V, it's the South bridge PLL)
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
^^^^ thanks. Will give that a shot!
Mike
got my G.Skill F2-8800 in yest thanks to grnfinger for the recommendation. popped them in last night and hit 1100 with ease. tonight i will get a chance to see what they can do. :D
Glad they worked out for you. :bounces:Quote:
Originally Posted by adrenaline7879
Post your max MHz please, I have yet to see a kit go beyond 1140 ish
I have exactly the same issue with similar hardware. Above 525FSB nothing worksQuote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
I left NB and FSB volts on auto for a test to see if it would boot at 533FSB and it did, but when I checked the BIOS for the values NB was over 1.7v and VTT over 1.5V :eek:
It always had an overvolt addiction, but this off the charts :down:
What PSU?
Asus Quattro 850W.
Hey Grnfinger,Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I tried getting my Q6700 to a nice OC without OCing my RAM. So 3.20 passes OCCT, but 3.30 fails right away. The only thing I've changed for 3.30 is FSB Freq. from 320 to 330.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...OCing/fail.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...g/HPIM0739.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...g/HPIM0740.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...g/HPIM0741.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...g/HPIM0744.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...g/HPIM0745.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...g/HPIM0747.jpg
3.20 no problems...
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...OCing/pass.jpg
try upping the NB 1.39 is rather low for 4x1GB, try 1.45-1.47 and see what happens
Ok I the NB is now 1.46. I also bumped the FSBT voltage from 1.36 to 1.46, and CPU from 1.28 to 1.30. So far it's better. What temp should I make sure the cores and the NB stay below.
Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type W83627DHG + W83791D + ADT7475 + ADP3228 (ISA 290h, SMB 2Ch/2Eh/20h)
GPU Sensor Type Analog Devices ADT7473 (NV-I2C 2Eh)
Motherboard Name Asus Maximus Extreme / Maximus Formula / Rampage Formula
Chassis Intrusion Detected No
Temperatures
Motherboard 28 °C (82 °F)
CPU 37 °C (99 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #1 51 °C (124 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #2 51 °C (124 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #3 46 °C (115 °F)
CPU #1 / Core #4 47 °C (117 °F)
North Bridge 46 °C (115 °F)
South Bridge 35 °C (95 °F)
GPU 42 °C (108 °F)
GPU Diode 51 °C (124 °F)
GPU Memory 42 °C (108 °F)
GPU Ambient 39 °C (102 °F)
SAMSUNG HD103UJ 22 °C (72 °F)
WDC WD2500KS-00MJB0 50 °C (122 °F)
Cooling Fans
CPU 2177 RPM
Chassis #2 1758 RPM
Chassis #3 2212 RPM
GPU 1582 RPM (60%)
Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.30 V
+3.3 V 3.23 V
+5 V 4.90 V
+12 V 12.10 V
+5 V Standby 4.92 V
FSB VTT 1.46 V
North Bridge Core 1.46 V
South Bridge Core 1.07 V
South Bridge PLL 1.52 V
DIMM 2.00 V
DIMM VTT 1.01 V
GPU Vcc 3.27 V
failed again :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/d...Cing/fail2.jpg
Shawn, try cpu gtl of 67. What temps are you getting? At 333 fsb you should be able to boot PL6. I'd enable static read, and aiclock to stronger. These boards love tight everything.
boot PL6? Whats that?
Set performance level to 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
Yeah that's what I thought it was. So I did that.
Would I be much better off with a 2x2GB kit? If so whats the best for this board?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
In my testing I have found that when running prime blend if you get errors at the following test adjusting these values correct the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
This is not law here ....its just my own findings.
1024 - increase VTT or vNB
896 or 448 - vNB
768, 512, 332 - VTT
As for 2x2GB kits, GSkill would be my firrst choice, Corsair Dominators and Mushkin Redlines.
I've given up trying to break 430 for now. Maybe once I get the h20 on the NB, I'l have some luck getting the volts down.
45nm quads and X38 seem to hit a wall at about 425-435 FSB
Watercool that NB all you like it wont help you.
Ok fellas... I appreciate the help so far. For the first time I was able to get 8*450 stable for 24 hrs of Prime95. I feel like I REALLY had to crank my voltages though and wonder if I am pushing too hard. Below my BIOS settings are my prime tests (screen shot taken 23 hrs in or so) and my Real Temp + CPUZ screenshots.
Maximus Formula --> 0308 Rampage BIOS
Everest (benchmark done while Prime95 was running)Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400MHz
PCI-E Frequency: 115
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 850MHz
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency :
RAS# to CAS# Delay :
RAS# Precharge :
RAS# ActivateTime :
RAS# to RAS# Delay :
Row Refresh Cycle Time :
Write Recovery Time :
Read to Precharge Time :
Read to Write Delay (S/D) :
Write to Read Delay (S) :
Write to Read Delay (D) :
Read to Read Delay (S) :
Read to Read Delay (D) :
Write to Write Delay (S) :
Write to Write Delay (D) :
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : 10
CPU Voltage : 1.55625
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.76
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65
DRAM Voltage : 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.54
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...450everest.jpg
Prime95, CPUZ and Real Temp - Is the max of 73 degrees in two of my cpu's cores reason for concern?
http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...g?t=1229809336
I assume my volt #'s REALLY need to come down but I kinda worked my way UP to them just to get a stable boot and Prime run so I don't really know where to start. -- Suggestions would be great.
Mike
73C is a tad high, I would watch that ....Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
450x8 suggested setup
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 5
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : whatever your CPU needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.02
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
Transaction booster is too loose.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
I can move the transaction booster down to 8 but at 7 I hang at DET_RAM. Any suggestions? Or, if I move DRAM Static Read Control to 'ENABLE' I hang at DET_RAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
DRAM static to enable 1 is 2 points tighter you know that right? So enable 0 is 1 point tighter; may work.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
Nope, wasn't aware of that. Most everything I could find on DRAM Static said it didn't really have any effect. I've tried enable with CPL at 8 and I get DET RAM post hang. Enable with 9 might work so I'll try that next. Assuming it works, is one preferable over the other? I haven't contacted Mushkin yet but from what I've read these Redlines tend to like the volts so perhaps bumping up my DRAM Voltage will help? Are you speaking about Ai Twister/Transaction boost that are part of the Maximus Formula? - If so, my Maximus is now a Rampage with 0308 BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I really wasn't happy with the FSB, PLL and NB #'s I had to use (and the temps I hit) to run 8x450 so I switched gears and moved to 9x400. Compared to almost all the other posts with 9x400 setups, I have to run much higher CPU Voltages but I was able to move all my other #'s down quite a bit vs. the 8x450 setup I had before. Perhaps it's just my chip and/or mobo. This is Prime stable for about 3 hrs..... will run 24hr test tonight. Does this look OK?
Here's where I am so far with 9x400
Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 400MHz
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2 800MHz
DRAM Command Rate : Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto
CAS# Latency : (5)
RAS# to CAS# Delay : (5)
RAS# Precharge : (5)
RAS# ActivateTime : (18)
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Light
Transaction Booster : Manual
CPL: 8
CPU Voltage : 1.54375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6
North Bridge Voltage : 1.45
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.05
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : Auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : Auto
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5V
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU Volt
Voltiminder LED : Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: DISABLED
Vanderpool: DISABLED
Execute Disable Bit: DIABLED
CPU TM Function: DISABLED
Max CPUID Value Limit: DISABLED
today a new board came from RMA, and im having crashes everytime..
I cant even install windows.
Im using an E8500 and Gskill 2x2gb pc 8800, all settings on default
I have tried all bios of maximus, now im upgradding to rampage..
What do you think? bad board?
Thnks
Hey guys i'm thinking about buying 4 more gigs of ram for my board. It currently has 4 gigs (2x2gig) of corsair dominator 8500 which I have running at 1066 5-5-5-15. My question is this - will I be able to run 8 gigs at the same settings, and if so, what kind of nb voltage would I need. I currently have it set at 1.53 (bios), but I think it could go lower. If it's not possible to get 1066 on all sticks, would I still need additional nb voltage just to run all the sticks? Does anyone have a system with 8 gigs of dominators and a q6600 at 3.6? Mine is running at 400x9, with the divider being something wierd, i don't remember the exact ratio. I think that if i ran the ram at 800, I'd be able to use the 1:1 divider and help stability, but I'm concerned about nb temps. Thanks in advance!
Hi Devil,
I would said you know the answer already. Four sticks is harder on you board then two. What do you need 8GB for anyway? I take it your running a 64-bit OS...
Probably the same reason I'm doing it: RAM is cheap, so why the hell not? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
I've found the 8g makes it a bit more difficult, but does not limit the OC until you get way up there on this board. Zucker2k has hit some crazy 8gb speeds. Currently I'm FSB CPU limited, not RAM limited.Quote:
Originally Posted by MurderCityDevil
me too stucked to 433 :( but a new graphic card will put a smile on my face :) (good price sold mine good old 8800gts :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MJR
Hey Zucker2k, Grnfinger,
I've been asking some questions about G.Skill in the Xtreme Bandwidth section, and I guess there recommending:
G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 900(PC2 7200) F2-7200CL4D-4GBPI-B $49.99
Or do you think the F2-8500CL5D-2GBPK is better or equal (now $33.99 :shocked:)
I need some help...after buying the 2x2gig kit, I cannot post no matter what with all 4 sticks in. Can anyone please post their settings for running 8 gigs at any speed? I currently have rampage bios 0408, and I don't know what the best bios for 8 gigs is. I do not know how much nb voltage I need either.
Both sets pass memtest fine, and all my dimm slots work. I just cannot post with 8 gigs, even at 800 mhz and no overclock.
What memory are you running? Did you try resetting your BIOS to AUTO? Try BIOS 0410 "Rampage Formula 0410 BIOS: Improvie Memory compatibility"
Might need like 1.47V on the NB.
I have not used them but I hear good things about them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
My 8500s are nice and will do about 1160-1170MHz if I tweak them.
I have no complaints with teh 8500.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...inger/1140.png
Set trfc ( row refresh cycle time) to 65Quote:
Originally Posted by MurderCityDevil
Set your PL to 9 for now.
Set vNB to 1.51-1.53
Gotta double post!
Finally broke 21000 in 3DMark06 :bounces:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9339593
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...nfinger/3d.jpg
Congratulations mate. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Have you run Vantage yet?
If so what did you get for a score running @4.0GHz?
Heres mine and it seems a tad low imo...
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/vantage1.jpg
w00t! you can almost catch me! and i can almost catch you in vantage! :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
3870x2 + wb on the way to me btw... cost? the cost of shipping :rofl:
my vantage is weak, but good enough for hwbot gold!
DEE DEE DEE
I ordered the wrong RAM today. I ordered F2-8500CL5D-2GBPK (2 x 1GB), but meant to order F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK (2 x 2GB).. Hope Newegg and get that order out still.
you can always change it before it charges you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
[QUOTE=Grnfinger;3521255]Have you run Vantage yet?
If so what did you get for a score running @4.0GHz?
Heres mine and it seems a tad low imo...
[QUOTE]I haven't run vantage yet, I'm running an old crappy graphics card. :down:
Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year To You All!!! This year was fun, hope next year is even better :banana3: :rehab: :bounce: :party2:
PS: Sorry for the OT and DP.
Grn,Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
How are you pushing your G.Skill to 1170MHz? Mine seem to max at about 1140MHz. I seem to remember you saying yours maxed there too?
I tried this but could not boot. However, someone on the corsair forums said to try to set the speed at 667 with two sticks in, and then try booting with 4. Do you know if this means the max speed i can use is 667? Because if so, I might just stick with 4 gigs. I think 8 gigs at 667 is going to be worse than 8 gigs at 667. It's almost a 50% reduction in speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
with all 4 sticks are you not getting the monitor to turn on at all? No splash screen or anything? What ram are you using? You might have to RMA your motherboard.
:party: http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...istmas_t_3.gif :party:
MERRY CHRISTMAS...I WISH YOU GUYS ALL THE BEST FOR THE NEW YEAR.
Same to you lads, we are still 5 hours away from Xmas here; have fun and best wishes for 2009
im using two sets of corsair dominator 1066 (2x2gig). the version numbers are the same. I'm not sure if it's the motherboard because any combination of two sticks in any two slots will boot and run fine. It seems like no matter what combination of settings I use, the second I populate another slot, the whole system turns into a vegetable and hangs at det_dram, no signal on screen, video card fan running 100%, etc. If someone can tell me for sure it's the motherboard, then i'll just return this set of ram and stick with 4 gigs because it's not worth it for me to go through the hassle. But so far, I have been unable to boot with any settings. I am stumped.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShawnTRD
Your still stumped eh, my Rampage just arrived today!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MurderCityDevil
I have some things to do shortly but in a few hours I'll power the board up and toss in 8GBs of ram, once I get it dial'd in I'll post actual pics of my bios setup.
You could always drop in the OCZ forum section here and ask Tony for advice
he is pretty damn smart ....PM is considerd bad for reps so dont pm him
my 3870x2 just came in today, have a look :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../21k6thrun.jpg
6th run, and not even on a quad :D
but you need to run 4800MHz to score it:ROTF:
Atleast mines is 24/7 stable:p:
I might volt mod and overclock my card a bit further.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9362364
How is that Rampage, dude?
Woah! You guys know it's actually Christmas? :p: Yeah, let's see what Cory can do with that RF.
@Murder; you may need up to .1v more on the NB. Oh, don't forget to set DRAM clk skews to advanced, 200 - 300 on both CH A/B. Goodluck.
I am back with some info. I changed out the 2x2GB sticks of PC2-8000 G.Skill I have for a pair of 2GB sticks of OCZ platinum 8500. I still can't get them up to rated speed, but at least these will run at PC2-6400 @ 4-4-4-12 (instead of 5-5-5-15 from the G. Skills).
I also took out the cooling and fitted my EK Spreme and S-Max on the board, along with some Enzo MST-81 mosfet sinks. I think the thermal material may have been a big part of the stability issue I saw before, as the stuff that was on there was a thick layer of some kind of rubbery-looking TIM. AND, underneath that stuff they had some blue paste of some kind on the SB & NB. :shakes: I didn't even need the hair-dyer as the heatsinks just lifted right off. :mad: Right now the CPU is running about the same idle as it was before (I think I may need to tighten down the bolts on the Supreme), but load temps are much, much lower. Also, NB temps went from ~65C down to ~24C, even though I'm cranking more volts into it. Oh, and I tried the pencil mod on it, too since everything was out of the case. I have turned off loadline calibration and volts seem pretty solid at 1.4v.
I have it running at 4 GHz (10 x 400MHz) with the ram @ PC2-6400, 4-4-4-12 and it was Priming for nearly 23 hours without failure when I stopped it. I have to reboot sometime soon and get all the BIOS details so I can post them up for your wise scrutiny. :worship:
In the meantime, do any of you have some recommendations for some 1000W+ PSU's that work well with this board? I had a Tt 1200W that worked fine, as long as the CPU was not OC'ed. (The brief power-on, power-off, power-on cycle upon reboot didn't play nice with the caps in the PSU or something, because it never came back up :( ). I'm also worried the Tt 850W I have right now is not enough for the dual 4870X2 cards :(
what are the benefits of flashing the maximus with rampage bios?
my stock maximus se n/b cooler works perfect on my shuttle an35ultra n/b..
to avoid a repost, here's my last post:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=7652
I tried the Mushkin forums which were really pretty good in the past but the Mushkin employee who watched the forums is gone.
thanks a lot.....Mike
Well I've put trying to get a stable 4Ghz with this quad i have to the side and focus on stabilizing a lower speed(3.6). Well i have manged to do that however my memory scores don't seem to be as high as every one else in fact they seem rather low...:(. I was wondering if i could get some advice on how to bring the scores up with this board.
Sorry to bust in here, but i have a question!
Does any one know the max temp thresholds for the N-bridge and S-bridge on a Asus Rampage Formula?
Intel states 90c is max BUT many would disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by lohoutlaw
In my testing I have found anything above 52c on the NB and stability issues arise...
My advice would be to remove the NB and SB assembly, remove the stock TIM and replace it with AS Ceramique, its a bit of a pain but worth the effort in the long run
Commander....Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
Post your bios setup please
We can get the bandwidth up to speed :D
I have a couple of Mushkin kits, I have many timing setups from Greg, RE-Post your troubles I will help if I canQuote:
Originally Posted by xxDayTrader
Ty :)
Here they are:
Code:Maximus Formula Converted to a Rampage Formula
BIOS: 0410
Q6600 GO
G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI @1200MHz 2x2GB (5-5-5-15-CL2)
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
DRAM Clock CMD Skew CH1 A1 : AUTO
DRAM Clock CMD Skew CH1 A2 : AUTO
DRAM Clock CLK Skew CH1 B1 : AUTO
DRAM Clock CLK Skew CH1 B2 : AUTO
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto/(266)
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1203
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 52
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [5]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.425
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.0
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
Do this one at a time and retest with Everest...
Enable Dram Static Read Control
Clock Twister..Start with Stronger, back off alevel at a time if there is stability issues..
You might have to test PL levels with clock twister
ie..PL6 with clock twister stronger may perform better than PL 5 and clock twister moderate.
Timing looks decent there might be room for adjustments
Play with your Dram static and adjust your PL and clock twister first, play around with a few combos and try to find the best for your hardware, after its stable we can tighten the timing if you like...
Grn, those settings kill my Rampage. :( How did you work up to them?
KILLED???? :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I had slowly backed off till the system booted, then used memset till the bugger would pass memtest. used them for a month or so with no troubles.
Please say your board is not actually dead
you could try this, it got my Mushkins 1200MHz stable
*In Brackets are timings that can be optimized later, outside of the brackets is a good starting point*
CAS# Latency - 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay - 5
RAS# PRE Time - 5
RAS# ACT time - 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay - 4(3-4)
Ref Cycle Time - 55
Write Recovery Time - 6(3-6)
READ to PRE Time - 4(2-5)
READ to Write Delay (S/D) - 9 (7-10)
WRITE to READ Delay (S) - 5 (3-6)
WRITE to READ Delay (D) - 5 (4-6)
READ to READ Delay (S) - 4 (3-5)
READ to READ Delay (S) - 6 (5-7)
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S) - 4 (3-5)
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D) - 6 (5-7)
DRAM Static Read Control - Disabled (Enabled)
Ai Clock Twister - Light (Strong)
Transaction Booster - Disabled
Relax Level - 2 (0-3)
Just adapt it for Rampage bios as this was done on MF bios 1004
Here are my results with Static read control and CLKTWR
Stress test included 10 pass run with IBT 1.9, unless stated otherwise:
Code:PL SRC CLKTWR Read Write Copy Lantency Notes
5 D Auto 9157 7300 8132 55.6 (IBT stable)
5 E Auto 9209 7300 8153 55.4 (IBT stable)
5 E Stronger N/A N/A N/A N/A (would not post)
5 E Strong 9367 7300 8170 54.1 (pass 9/10 IBT)
5 E Moderate 9400 7300 8170 54.0 (IBT stable)
6 E Auto 9200 7150 8120 55.0 (stablity not tested)
6 E Stronger N/A N/A N/A N/A (would post but stop at USB itn)
6 E Strong 9150 7100 7999 55.1 (Stability not tested)
hmm those seem not so good for 1200
heres mine at 500FSB/1200 ram
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f.../TEST3_500.png
24/7 setting with e8400 @ 4.3GHz
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/test2-3.png
Q6700 3.6GHz 24/7 setting
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f.../test16700.png
So there is room for improvement, let me try some setting with my 8800 kit, from my understanding there the reject ic's from your 9600 kit
Why not try alittle different setup, 450x8, the higher FSB will improve bandwidth. You can still run ram at 1200MHz
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...inger/1200.png
What bios version are you using? I read that people get better results with the 308 bios do you have any exp with that bios in that regard?
Bios 308 is best imo for stability and bandwidth, if your not running 308 I would recommend it
Didn't kill it outright, but had some crazy bios error with the POST *BEEP* having some kind of fit, BEEPING about 30times a second!!! :rofl: A full CMOS clear and then a fresh flash (just to be safe) and all was back to normal. I'll have to give 'em a tweak tomorrow because I quite fancy working on it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Jeebus man you had me thinking I'll killed your board...Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I have a few different timing setups that can get your ram to max MHz.
I'll pm them to you shortly, just about to bench a bit atm
Big jump Grnfinger, but not at or past the 10K mark i would like to be at(like you guys). Never the less thank you so far. IBT stable,
PL6, Static read control Enabled, & Clock Twister :Moderate.