The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

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Originally Posted by Kondik

I saw a couple of people complaining about those heatsinks that they fall apart

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There great and the heatsink is very secure. I would recomend them to anyone looking for very good oc'ing ram
Maybe the ppl that had problems are the type that like to "play" with things they shouldnt.

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Originally Posted by Tony

for that 8GB test i used these modules.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...tinum_quad_kit

These are NOT rated at 1000, so anything over 800 is a bonus, most seem to be doing good clocks though

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Hmmmm, I thought you said black PCB & spreaders:cool:

I've been through a few sets of sticks lately... probably be through a few more over the next little while...

Once I get my QX9650 I'll be looking for a set that can play nice with that and my MaxFor...then I'll have to stop for a while (if I want to stay married :rofl: ).

I should have kept the ReaperX 4GB set I had that was stable at 5-5-5-12 @ 1066 with Strong Twister/Static Read Enabled/Trans Booster enabled (0)

i have the F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ kit and they run perfectly stable @ 1086 or 1088 (whichever speed it hits) 5-5-5-12. it takes 2.2vdimm though.

Can you set twister strong on strap 333/5:6 divider or only this is the only combination '5-5-5-12 @ 1066 with Strong Twister/Static Read Enabled/Trans Booster enabled (0)' ?

Can someone please help or explain why after the boot screen I get the error messege "cpu over voltage error!, F1 to continue". It only happens when I put the voltage up to 1.62 or higher. Anything below that this messege doesn't come up.

The board has been great since I got it release week. Temps aren't an issue. NB/SB under 39, CPU cores 1-4 idle 30-35, OCCT load 60-64 across.


I use the tweak guides here and on AnAndTech for bios settings. At 3.82 on the Q6600 G0, and 3870x2 @850 core, 900 memory I get 19,337 3dMark06. Crysis and BF2 run great on my Samsung 1680x1050 2ms.

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I should have kept the ReaperX 4GB set I had that was stable at 5-5-5-12 @ 1066 with Strong Twister/Static Read Enabled/Trans Booster enabled (0)

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TRAS 12 will not gain you anything with the larger density, you have to remember you are not setting the max the controller will use, you are setting the minimum...this means most of the time the lower value will not be used BUT if it is and the pages are closed to fast you will force the ram to re-read. Its always best to tune TRAS and set the highest value that gives you the highest bandwidth.

so what im saying is 12 is to tight, unless you play superpi all the time you are forcing rereads and losing performance.

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Originally Posted by Tony

for that 8GB test i used these modules.

http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...tinum_quad_kit

These are NOT rated at 1000, so anything over 800 is a bonus, most seem to be doing good clocks though

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Hey Tony, I have that kit in the Gold Edition. Should I have luck if I use them? Have you every tried the gold 8g kit ?

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Originally Posted by Tony

TRAS 12 will not gain you anything with the larger density, you have to remember you are not setting the max the controller will use, you are setting the minimum...this means most of the time the lower value will not be used BUT if it is and the pages are closed to fast you will force the ram to re-read. Its always best to tune TRAS and set the highest value that gives you the highest bandwidth.

so what im saying is 12 is to tight, unless you play superpi all the time you are forcing rereads and losing performance.

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So 15 would give me better performance? I'll give that a shot...

Anyway, I don't have the ReaperX anymore :(

I'm doing alright with the ones I have right now, but I'm still not 100% convinced...

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Originally Posted by s54///m3

Can someone please help or explain why after the boot screen I get the error messege "cpu over voltage error!, F1 to continue". It only happens when I put the voltage up to 1.62 or higher. Anything below that this messege doesn't come up.

The board has been great since I got it release week. Temps aren't an issue. NB/SB under 39, CPU cores 1-4 idle 30-35, OCCT load 60-64 across.


I use the tweak guides here and on AnAndTech for bios settings. At 3.82 on the Q6600 G0, and 3870x2 @850 core, 900 memory I get 19,337 3dMark06. Crysis and BF2 run great on my Samsung 1680x1050 2ms.

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Hardware monitoring in the bios. set CPU voltage to "ignore"

Also, does anyone have any suggestions on how to get 2x 2gb OCZ Platinum 8000 to run at 1066 on this board? I was getting it to boot in 0504 then updated to 1003 and nothing. I know it has to do with performance level and sub timings but i can't figure it out.

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Originally Posted by Spyrus

Can you set twister strong on strap 333/5:6 divider or only this is the only combination '5-5-5-12 @ 1066 with Strong Twister/Static Read Enabled/Trans Booster enabled (0)' ?

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I run the 5:6 divider on the 333 strap @1147MHz 5-5-5-15

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 1

get great bandwidth and have NO stability or boot issues

They old Fool is still looking for a 24/7 setting (incl. second ram kit to be added).
Intel's sample still doing fine. Ram is selected D9GMH. 3 SPD's programmed by vendor. Ref. sig.
Any hints and tips welcome.

Kind regards

The Fool

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Originally Posted by zlojack

So 15 would give me better performance? I'll give that a shot...

Anyway, I don't have the ReaperX anymore :(

I'm doing alright with the ones I have right now, but I'm still not 100% convinced...

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test and see, and don't run pi as that is the only THING that likes tighter TRAS, run actual games and do some photo editing or encoding...something real.

test TRAS with memtest...note the bandwidth as you test each value and set the highest value that gives the best bandwidth, so if 5,6,7,8,9,10,>>>>18 all give 5000MB/s and 19 gives 4890 set 18


Its like tRFC, if the rows are refreshed to fast they may force the minimum setting for TRAS to be used, so if you have tRFC to tight and TRAS set to say 8 you may have a situation with rows closing to fast and TRAS forcing rereads...so you lose performance.

128x8 ram IC's are massive density, 8GB has lots of load and lots of rows, running these modules like a 1GB micron D9 module is not going to cut it no more....you have to set what works...not what you think is fast ;)

imagine what 256x8's are going to be like as DDR3 scales up:eek:

The one thing I have noted from the IC's we and a few others are using for the 4GB kits is they will do 1000 or so dead easy at 1.8V, many do 950ish at 1.7V but as soon as you move over the sweet spot to say 1050+ you have to ramp the juice to 2 then 2.1 very quickly.
It pays to really fine tune this stuff to keep everything stable and as unstressed as you can.

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Originally Posted by Grnfinger

I run the 5:6 divider on the 333 strap @1147MHz 5-5-5-15

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 1

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DRAM Static Read Control:
This function is best set to "Disabled" for high FSB levels (450 FSB upwards). "Enabled" gives a small gain in memory access latency at the expense of overall stability. We believe this setting alters a single TRD phase to low; performance advantages either way are not stellar.

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I've run with mine on Disabled for the longest time, since I got the Board. Tested 440-456 FSB with Enabled and Disabled and it seemed to do little for stability, seems more a performance related setting? I didn't boot into XP, I was just testing using Memtest Test 5.

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Originally Posted by Tony

test and see, and don't run pi as that is the only THING that likes tighter TRAS, run actual games and do some photo editing or encoding...something real.

test TRAS with memtest...note the bandwidth as you test each value and set the highest value that gives the best bandwidth, so if 5,6,7,8,9,10,>>>>18 all give 5000MB/s and 19 gives 4890 set 18


Its like tRFC, if the rows are refreshed to fast they may force the minimum setting for TRAS to be used, so if you have tRFC to tight and TRAS set to say 8 you may have a situation with rows closing to fast and TRAS forcing rereads...so you lose performance.

128x8 ram IC's are massive density, 8GB has lots of load and lots of rows, running these modules like a 1GB micron D9 module is not going to cut it no more....you have to set what works...not what you think is fast ;)

imagine what 256x8's are going to be like as DDR3 scales up:eek:

The one thing I have noted from the IC's we and a few others are using for the 4GB kits is they will do 1000 or so dead easy at 1.8V, many do 950ish at 1.7V but as soon as you move over the sweet spot to say 1050+ you have to ramp the juice to 2 then 2.1 very quickly.
It pays to really fine tune this stuff to keep everything stable and as unstressed as you can.

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Thanks man... your info is awesome. I guess with the new tech there's new rules that we need to learn (and I hardly know the old rules :D )

So is that why OCZ is putting 18 for tRAS on their high end 2 x 2 kits instead of 12 like everyone else?

I just finished testing memtest with 4x 2GB OCZ Reapers @ 4-4-4-15 with 2.1v. Everything seems to be working fine, can't wait to plop in my Q6600 and see how it goes.

Will I need improved NB cooling for 1600 FSB?

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...a/DSC00375.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...a/DSC00381.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...a/DSC00384.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...a/DSC00391.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...a/DSC00396.jpg

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...a/DSC00399.jpg

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Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy

well, You wanna check the checksums of the 2 files see if they are different?

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Identical Checksum, MD5, CRC32 and SHA-1. :cool:

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Originally Posted by BigGaroupa

I just finished testing memtest with 4x 2GB OCZ Reapers @ 4-4-4-15 with 2.1v. Everything seems to be working fine, can't wait to plop in my Q6600 and see how it goes.

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Sweet! At stock clocks?

Big Garoupa, what kind of cooler is that???

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Originally Posted by BigGaroupa

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...a/DSC00381.jpg

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Did you notice any "improvments" in the way the NB contacts/grease were installed?

Edit: Nevermind you can see the Revision in this pic. I'm pretty sure it says 1.03G

Ok thanks for your input, I went with the 4gb G.Skill 1000 kit. I hope they arrive soon enough. Jeez, i can't wait. The Asus BIOS said, my q6600 is a 1.25 or (something like that) VID, i'm starting to wonder if i got lucky.. :slobber:

Run Coretemp to discover ya VID not the bios... eg my QX9650 is a 1.125Vid though Asus bios sets 1.2volts while it only needs 1.1 to be stable at stock speeds...

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

Run Coretemp to discover ya VID not the bios... eg my QX9650 is a 1.125Vid though Asus bios sets 1.2volts while it only needs 1.1 to be stable at stock speeds...

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I'll be doing that once my g.skill sticks arrive, haven't setup windoze yet... :yepp:

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Originally Posted by zlojack

Thanks man... your info is awesome. I guess with the new tech there's new rules that we need to learn (and I hardly know the old rules :D )

So is that why OCZ is putting 18 for tRAS on their high end 2 x 2 kits instead of 12 like everyone else?

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because tRAS at 12 is to tight at 1000+ MHZ

Opinions...

Should I stick with my Ballisitix Tracer PC6400 4 x 1024MB

or...

go with OCZ Gold edition PC6400 4 x 2048MB

I have both sets now but what should run better? Are the platinum much better or any at all vs the gold edition OCZ Tony ?

test and see what they will do, remember you are tRFC limited on this board unless you run 1001 or 1003 bios or earlier.