Testing / comparing : Intel D975XBX2 / Asus P5B DX ***56K WARNING***

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Originally Posted by chaotic646

EDIT: Okay my Bios is still showing 2.4 but cpu-z is showing 1.6 with a multiplier of 6 and when I go to contol panel\system it shows 1.6.

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No probs here, thought I wish it had sorted out my ATI issue.

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Originally Posted by screwtech02

I'll try it when i get home from work, i'm runnin XP-64, so will that matter???

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I dont think it matters if your on XP64 OR Vista64. I think this is an issue with the bios and ATI cards in crossfire mode however we shall see.

Thanks for the test

Topboy

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Originally Posted by gtj

Doesn't sound stupid at all. The short answer is "yes". Running the CPU with a higher voltage and the corresponding higher temperatures will shorten the life of the CPU. Whether there's any emperical evidence to say exactly how much, I'm not sure. I haven't seen any but I haven't looked all that hard either. Maybe it's 8 years instead of 10, I don't know. Anyway, an E6600 at 3.6g/400fsb, shouldn't have it's life materially shortened as long as you use the lowest stable voltage and keep the temperatures within reason. If you're going to be running the CPU flat out 24x7, something better than air cooling may be required.

266/533 is the 1066 strap so you're good there.

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so I guess I need to start turning off my computer when I don't use it :)

My last AMD based CPU, ran 24/7 for 4 yrs.

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Originally Posted by topboy

OK Here's the deal.

I was running all A OK on bios 2333 with Vista 64 bit with Crossfire enabled on the latest 7.1 Catalyst driver.

I then upgraded the bios to Intels latest 2618 and boom. The bios stops the cards from running in Crossfire mode.

The Catalyst Control Centre kept hanging, and putting errors in the Applications event log of windows.

I attempted 4 uninstall's and reinstalls of the catalyst drivers with no luck, same errors.

Logged a call with ATI and they are stumped.

I then thought mmm rollback the bios, surely not, it couldnt be the bios. OH YEAH it was.:mad:

Rolled back to 2333, uninstalled the Radeon Catalyst drivers, rebooted and reinstalled. Rebooted and all is back in good working order. Drivers all OK and Crossfire is working.:toast:

This is on a brand new install of Vista on freshly formatted drives today so i know its most definatly a problem with this latest 2618 bios from Intel.:slapass:

This is also with default values in the bios, NO Overclock.

Just thought i would share this all with you

Topboy

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Really strange thing hey. Seems like the Bad-Axe II hat some issues with ATI.
I have an ATI X1800XTX 512meg (Crossfire Compatible) If I just use that ATI
in the primary PCI-E slot, I get a no boot, if I slap in any PCI-E VGA card in
the second slot, then wham ATI works, also If I put the ATI in the second
slot it works. Wierd.

Guys,

I am going to start my new build tonight and was wondering if there is a step-by-step FAQ or anything of that nature that consolidates a lot of the great information in these posts? I don't want to miss anything and have issues. A short list of things to do when setting up my build (and subsequent overclock) would be extremely useful (as opposed to having to reset the jumper, and all of that).

e6600
Bad Axe 2
2x 1G OCZ DDR2-800 Plat R2
4 Seagate 320GB SATA-2 HDDs on Intel RAID controller (RAID 5)
eVGA 8800GTX (non-SLI)
Zalman 9700
OCZ 700w GameXstream PS
SoundBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty Extreme Gamer
Would like to dual boot WinXP and Vista Ultimate, but will likely work with WinXP first to make sure everything works.

Thanks,

-scaryogre

Just updated to the latest BIOS. No issues here but I'm not running ATI. ;)

After flashing and loading my custom defaults, the computer wouldn't boot at first. I just shut it off, switched the PSU power off, and turned it back on and all seems well now.

I had to reinstall my video drivers. Other then that, it seems good so far.

can download already

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Originally Posted by scaryogre

Guys,

I am going to start my new build tonight and was wondering if there is a step-by-step FAQ or anything of that nature that consolidates a lot of the great information in these posts? I don't want to miss anything and have issues. A short list of things to do when setting up my build (and subsequent overclock) would be extremely useful (as opposed to having to reset the jumper, and all of that).

e6600
Bad Axe 2
2x 1G OCZ DDR2-800 Plat R2
4 Seagate 320GB SATA-2 HDDs on Intel RAID controller (RAID 5)
eVGA 8800GTX (non-SLI)
Zalman 9700
OCZ 700w GameXstream PS
SoundBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty Extreme Gamer
Would like to dual boot WinXP and Vista Ultimate, but will likely work with WinXP first to make sure everything works.

Thanks,

-scaryogre

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If I'm still out of work next week, maybe I'll put a FAQ together. :)

Put the jumper in maintenance mode and on the Maintenance page, set C1E and Watchdog disabled. On the Security page, set VT Technology disabled. On the Power page, set EIST disabled. On the Exit page, do a "Save Custom Defaults". Doing this gives you a baseline.

Reset the jumper and go back into the BIOS. On the Performance/Memory page, set Reference Freq to 266 and Memory Freq to 533. This will give you a 1:1 ratio at the 1066 strap. With those sticks, leave the timings at 5-5-5-15 for now but you can bring up the memory voltage to 2.08. Of course with the FSB still set at 266, you'll be severely underclocking the memory but you wont be there for long.

Make sure you're stable here although performance will suck.

If you're stable, you should be able to go back to the BIOS Performance/Processor page and move the Host Clock Frequency (FSB) up to 320+ without changing any other settings on that page. Do it in steps of 10 or 15 making sure you're stable at each. Don't stop at 320 if it's stable, just keep going until it's not.

After that, you'll have to decide what your goals are. Raw performance, low heat/noise, etc.

Oh yeah, keep good records.

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Originally Posted by horatiub

so I guess I need to start turning off my computer when I don't use it :)

My last AMD based CPU, ran 24/7 for 4 yrs.

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Nah. Mine are on 24/7 and 1 is loaded 100% 24/7. Not expecting any trouble.

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Originally Posted by gtj

If I'm still out of work next week, maybe I'll put a FAQ together. :)

Put the jumper in maintenance mode and on the Maintenance page, set C1E and Watchdog disabled. On the Security page, set VT Technology disabled. On the Power page, set EIST disabled. On the Exit page, do a "Save Custom Defaults". Doing this gives you a baseline.

Reset the jumper and go back into the BIOS. On the Performance/Memory page, set Reference Freq to 266 and Memory Freq to 533. This will give you a 1:1 ratio at the 1066 strap. With those sticks, leave the timings at 5-5-5-15 for now but you can bring up the memory voltage to 2.08. Of course with the FSB still set at 266, you'll be severely underclocking the memory but you wont be there for long.

Make sure you're stable here although performance will suck.

If you're stable, you should be able to go back to the BIOS Performance/Processor page and move the Host Clock Frequency (FSB) up to 320+ without changing any other settings on that page. Do it in steps of 10 or 15 making sure you're stable at each. Don't stop at 320 if it's stable, just keep going until it's not.

After that, you'll have to decide what your goals are. Raw performance, low heat/noise, etc.

Oh yeah, keep good records.

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Thanks gtj! This is exactly what I was looking for! :toast:

Also, my best wishes that you find work soon! :)

-scaryogre

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Originally Posted by gtj

Nah. Mine are on 24/7 and 1 is loaded 100% 24/7. Not expecting any trouble.

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ok, so I tried the 400FSB and 1.5V but I get the BOD screen. So, it doesn't boot, I get passed the windows logo and that's it.

Also, I went back to 377FSB and now I notice my temp at idle at around 50, yesteryda it was somewhere around 40, so at least 10 more. If I run Orthos at 3.4GHZ, the temp stays around 60.

so, I'm not sure what to do next

Flashed 2618 BIOS worked great except I forgot to set my overclock back to default.

The flash set the RAM back to auto and I got the dreaded "3 Beeps from Hell" as my ram was seriously overclocked. Off comes the side of the case and it's hemostat vs, jumper time again :( (My GTS and cabling combined with my desk area makes the jumper tough to reach, time to steal SuperTimor's switch idea... :) )

At any rate, back in action with mild overclock (350 FSB) in place and no issues so far

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Originally Posted by topboy

Is anyone else able to verify this problem. If someone else has ATI and Crossfire can you upgrade your bios to 2618 and try reinstalling the 7.1 catalyst drivers. You can then rollback to another bios after.

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Just flashed to 2618 and no problems with Crossfire:
http://123pichosting.com/images/1643xfire.JPG

Did you have to reinstall the drivers?

Anyone here using a PS/2 Keyboard? I'm using a M$ natural. If I power down the system then power up, the BIOS (2507) won't detect it. But upon rebooting all is well. I have to do this every time I shut down, very annoying.

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Originally Posted by gtj

Put the jumper in maintenance mode and on the Maintenance page, set C1E and Watchdog disabled. On the Security page, set VT Technology disabled. On the Power page, set EIST disabled. On the Exit page, do a "Save Custom Defaults". Doing this gives you a baseline.

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Quick question on the above: Do I want to jumper to maintenance mode right out of the gate (i.e. before first boot?). Or should I go ahead and get OS and everything installed at default BIOS settings first and then re-jumper and try to OC? I'm assuming the latter based on my prior experience (even though it has been 4-5 years since I last built a system.

Thanks,

-scary

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Originally Posted by theonlybabyface

Did you have to reinstall the drivers?

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Nope, did not need to touch the driver at all.

Just make sure you boot into the Maintenance Menu after flashing and disable Failsafe Watchdog (also disable C1E and EIST if you're so inclined) - this is especially important if you're updating from BIOS 2333 or older. While you're there check your mem settings as well. This should minimize any problems you may have after the update.

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Originally Posted by boo50

hi guys, i have a problem.
i've D975xbx2 mobo, xeon 3050 and TT Big Typhon.

yesterday i tried to get 450 fbs, and my system won't boot more.

here is the short story

first i've get the 440 FSB and boot ok.
voltages was

CPU: <1.475V>
Front side Bus Voltage Override: <1.375V>
MCH / ICH Voltage Overrride <1.675V>

after i tried to get 443 fbs and also boot ok
after i set up the 450 fsb and freezes at POST test with EB error code

i tried to setup a little more volatges

CPU: <1.5V>
Front side Bus Voltage Override: <1.4V>
MCH / ICH Voltage Overrride <1.7V>
(extreme a little, yeah?? for air cooled)

after that system also freezes at boot at the same EB code (Calling Video BIOS )
here is codes
http://support.intel.com/support/mot...434.htm#errors
after i've go down with all settings, and can't boot anymore with any configurations.
also i've reset bios settings by booting with jumper recovery position.
and can't boot this stock settings too.
but now freezes at 94 post test code (Clearing keyboard input buffer).

any ideas ??
i stilll can go to bios and do everything there, but can't pass this codes EB or 94 and system won't boot.

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hey guys, i need advise.
can anyone help me ??
also - how can i update bios if i can't boot from CD ??
boot process freezes earlier than boot from CD must start.
also i tried to burn BX2333P.BIO file (from 2333 bios update) to CD and power on my computer without bios jumper to recover bios, but it's just rebooted always every 2-3 sec(i suppose - i just hear what CD starting every 2-3 sec)

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Originally Posted by syl

Nope, did not need to touch the driver at all.

Just make sure you boot into the Maintenance Menu after flashing and disable Failsafe Watchdog (also disable C1E and EIST if you're so inclined) - this is especially important if you're updating from BIOS 2333 or older. While you're there check your mem settings as well. This should minimize any problems you may have after the update.

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What is your OS. It looks like XP but which version 32 OR 64 Bit.

Thanks for the information

Topboy

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Originally Posted by boo50

hey guys, i need advise.
can anyone help me ??
also - how can i update bios if i can't boot from CD ??
boot process freezes earlier than boot from CD must start.
also i tried to burn BX2333P.BIO file (from 2333 bios update) to CD and power on my computer without bios jumper to recover bios, but it's just rebooted always every 2-3 sec(i suppose - i just hear what CD starting every 2-3 sec)

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Try: turn off the computer, unplug PSU, set jumper to recover, pull battery, go have a coffee. Then reinstall battery, plug PSU back in, power up and see what happens?

Alright, an update.

Thanks to everyone's help, I have my chip running 2.8GHz (400x7) 24x7 with a 44C idle and 70C extreme load (dual Orthos or TAT - never really goes above 60C during heavy gaming).

My problem is that I can't get it to go past that. I've tried many different combinations for RAM and everything else using the calculator and the system just won't POST on anything higher than 2.9GHz.

The only thing I can think of is that VT is holding it back... but I actually USE the VT tech... does it really make that big of a difference?

I've got the chip running 1.325 volts right now and I'm running Orthos while I'm typing this (damn this chip is insane to be able to run other apps even when its at 100% utilization!) without any issues. My AS5 is still in the burn-in period though, it seems, because every day, I see another 1 degree drop in load temp. Its now at 67C according to Core Temp. Alternates between 67 and 66. MUCH better than the 70C I was getting under load with the chip at 2.6!

Anyway, any ideas how I can get a higher overclock out of this chip? I really don't necessarily need it... but I'm craving more speed. :P

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Originally Posted by EtherealRemnant

Alright, an update.

Thanks to everyone's help, I have my chip running 2.8GHz (400x7) 24x7 with a 44C idle and 70C extreme load (dual Orthos or TAT - never really goes above 60C during heavy gaming).

My problem is that I can't get it to go past that. I've tried many different combinations for RAM and everything else using the calculator and the system just won't POST on anything higher than 2.9GHz.

The only thing I can think of is that VT is holding it back... but I actually USE the VT tech... does it really make that big of a difference?

I've got the chip running 1.325 volts right now and I'm running Orthos while I'm typing this (damn this chip is insane to be able to run other apps even when its at 100% utilization!) without any issues. My AS5 is still in the burn-in period though, it seems, because every day, I see another 1 degree drop in load temp. Its now at 67C according to Core Temp. Alternates between 67 and 66. MUCH better than the 70C I was getting under load with the chip at 2.6!

Anyway, any ideas how I can get a higher overclock out of this chip? I really don't necessarily need it... but I'm craving more speed. :P

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try this:
watchdog OFF
C1E OFF
reference frequency 266MHz
mem speed 566MHz (1:1)
MCH voltage 1,6V
SB voltage 1,3V
vcore voltage 1,4V
power slope ON

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Originally Posted by topboy

What is your OS. It looks like XP but which version 32 OR 64 Bit.

Thanks for the information

Topboy

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Using XP32. Maybe the problem you're seeing is a 64-bit driver glitch?

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Originally Posted by heikis

try this:
watchdog OFF
C1E OFF
reference frequency 266MHz
mem speed 566MHz (1:1)
MCH voltage 1,6V
SB voltage 1,3V
vcore voltage 1,4V
power slope ON

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Still didn't work.

I think I'm going to go back to the 2333 BIOS. People seem to have better luck with that than 2507.

Curiously enough though, I have completely disabled Watchdog (I even just verified this) but when I tried to overclock the system to 3.0GHz, it brought up a screen saying that it detected that an error has occured due to my recent changes in my performance options or hardware. Seems like watchdog to me.

I'll try 2333 tomorrow and see where I can get with it. I never really got any overclocking done on 2333 because I didn't know the key to overclocking so all of it has been done on 2507. I just like how I have the Marvell controller disabled and my HDD light still works.

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Originally Posted by boo50

hey guys, i need advise.
can anyone help me ??
also - how can i update bios if i can't boot from CD ??
boot process freezes earlier than boot from CD must start.
also i tried to burn BX2333P.BIO file (from 2333 bios update) to CD and power on my computer without bios jumper to recover bios, but it's just rebooted always every 2-3 sec(i suppose - i just hear what CD starting every 2-3 sec)

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If you're just burning the .BIO file as a file on the CD, that's your problem right there.

You need to burn an ISO to CD, not the BIO file.

http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scri...Name=&lang=eng

You need to burn that with a burning program not as a file but as an image (like Nero or Roxio will have an option for "Burn Image to Disc" - use that).