50% lead would be really great. Would give me the itch to upgrade from my 2x 5870 in crossfire :shocked: Computers is such an expensive hobby :rofl::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mk
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50% lead would be really great. Would give me the itch to upgrade from my 2x 5870 in crossfire :shocked: Computers is such an expensive hobby :rofl::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mk
Perhaps not if they want to steal ATI sales? After being delayed against HD5000 for ~6 months perhaps Nvidia is coming back with a vengeance?Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
However if you look at specific games such as Dirt 2 the benchmarks shows under 30% average advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mk
Breakdown if numbers are true:
Heaven - 193% Average Advantage (780% advantage in one score though)
Neutrone - (-10%) average advantage
Dirt 2 - 27.5% advantage
Battleforge - 36.5% advantage
Stalker - 19.1% advantage
3D Mark Vantage - .3% advantage
ohhhhhhhhhh, thats horrible temps! Only 5C above HD5970 :) :) :) :) :rofl: :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaidev
and 10C above HD 5870, oh GOD, how can be someone too blind and trolly?
I don't understand how nVidia is not doing HDMI passthrough like ATI. No matter how much better performance it gets I need that feature :(.Quote:
Originally Posted by Musho
Performance wise those numbers posted would be incredible if true...
they still have same ms why sell with loss if you have much better hardware ? physx cuda stuff already makes nvidia products atractive don't know its unbelievable if true then kudos to nvidia they are again my next gc :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ElSel10
Noise,5870 fan doesnt speed up until 80CQuote:
Originally Posted by Zed_X
Where is there any concrete evidence that Fermi cards will be sold at a loss?Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
Why is he trolly and blind? He has a perfectly valid point. That _is_ quite hot. And as mentioned before, the ATI cards don't really ramp the fan up all that much when loaded, simply because it doesn't need to dissipate the same amount of heat as Fermi will have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zed_X
this link has been posted but...
http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-GeForce-...9600472&sr=1-1
if you look closely at the box you will see some specs.
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2007/480spec.png
this card isnt going to make up its revenue in a month, its going to be across 2-3 years. they lost alot of time and if at 500$ they have a better price/perf ratio, amd will be forced to lower prices and start giving up that great profit margin, or loose market share.Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
we all want nvidias card to demolish amds, so prices can go down again, which they havnt done in 10 months.
You could say it's 880% faster in Heaven, and 10% slower in Crysis too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mk
:ROTF:
Found it on hwupgrade.it forums, dunno where it's from. Andrea could probably tell youQuote:
Originally Posted by mattlef
He shouldn't include the 880 number. It isn't really a good representation, but will greatly skew the results because it's such a big number.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
The driver gains are going to be insane with fermi. I have never seen a card with such inconsistent performance. Forget 10% performance gains, we are going to be seeing 20-30 percent performance gains. Especially with titles like Quake and crysis, which are typically NV favoured, the heaviest gains are going to be seen here. I have guessed that when making the latest drivers NV focus on their weakness first and will later focus on their strengths. With strong performances in games like dirt 2, hawx, battleforge and unreal, which are usually AMD favoured, this card should be killing in games like crysis and quake wars. Its not those and at this point one has to suspect drivers(assuming the recent leaked charts are true).
Nice find! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chumbucket843
that heat thing is what disturbs me 96 is pretty high and in warm climates it will be even higher making card unoverclockable same problem which i had with my ultra hope 470 is more cooler seems thats my only choiceQuote:
Originally Posted by Musho
not really ; if you see 100% it as fast as HD 5870, if you see 170%, it's 70% faster than HD 5870. Check the Crysis % compare for proof ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElSel10
Well that would be a problem if you were considering buying one? :) Early numbers don't look too bad, certainly not anywhere near the R600/NV30 predictions we've been hearing for 6 months. Would be nice to know how AMD feels about it - who knows what they have waiting in the wings.
The only thing I'm really wondering about is the 2d downclocking.
Do you think nVidia put this feature into the 4series chips like the ati 5 series? this is a huge selling feature for me.
Percentages are so stupid. If your test is 10 fps and the other card gets 20, that's a factor of 2.0, but clearly both are unplayable. Furthermore, why are we factoring synthetics into 'real-world' tests?
GT200 already downclocks really low in 2D. Don't know why it would be any different with Fermi. Idle numbers still look very high though. Leakage is a biatch.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattlef
According to Chiphell benchmark,GTX 480 and HD5870 have 45W difference at idle.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattlef
Won't chiphell get sued for these benchmarks if they turn out real? I mean, didn't they sign a NDA which probably means you have to pay 200k+ if you break it? :shrug:
ouch, that will hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by mindfury
if you remove all unplayable results (<30fps) from the charts and keep only the game benchmarks; you end up with ~28.7% increase in performance over HD 5870.Quote:
Originally Posted by cegras
granted that this card is overkill for 1680x1050, and also 1920x1200 for most games, even with 8xAA.