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nono - thought Euros were stronger than US, nah thats way to little...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauri Antero
They are stronger than the USD... €120 ~ $150 ($148.508 as I type this)Quote:
Originally Posted by wwwww
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Can someone explain to me what is PAT, how you use it (enable/disable) and if it bugs processors that they hit a wall?
In very simple words is a feature to lower latencies on the memory controller. Is a way to differentiate the higher end chipset (875) from the mid end (865), but you can fully activate also on the P4P series using some options in the bios. There are still some small drawbacks but I don't know what and why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Legoless
From what I know and from a logical standpoint it should never limit the CPU cause is related only to the memory subsystem, at least could be affected by the RAM itself.
its defenitly holding you back! i can run 260x? and others only run 250x? with pat on! :(
try not me and others, try you with pat on and vs. you without pat :) then talk :)
So, PAT doesnt really matter to me, because I have P4C800-E Deluxe? I was just wondering, because 220x12 is prime stable, and 221x12 it fails after 1 minute.
did anyone experience this phenomenon with corsair XL 512:
my 730 can reach 2.6 (fsb217) with one module, but only 2.46 with 2 modules.
it seems that tccd works better on single channel, but as other said bh5 suits better...
My 730 reaches
2500MHz without VCore increase
2,6GHz with 1,30V.
2,7GHz with aren´t stabel with 1,6V :upset:
But i think the 2,5GHz are enough for the most games ;)
What cooling are you using ? For 1.6v you need a very good air coolerQuote:
Originally Posted by 0verl0ad
I have 1.6V on stock lol, no good air coolers.
Are you serious ? What temps are you getting ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Legoless
he will get 65-68 something easily :) if he has 29-32C ambient :)
Yes, but this is not critical in my experience...
My Dothan 730 did not get any cooling at all (almost) in my first defective P4P800 SE board...
I could bench at 2520 with a Zalman "resting" on the core.... reaching temps of 65-75 without any problems..
As we all can see from many postings in this (and other) threads about Dothan OC.. You just hit a wall at some FSB... and raising VCore etc. has little effect (if any at all).
It just give You some more "peace" to see the load-temps (on good air-cooling) stable out at 38-42 in Prime'ing.. but 70 degrees goes just as well..
Of cource.. using "phase-cooling" and benching at sub-zero with high(er) VCore will give results...
Edit:
You may ask why I just put the cooler on to the core... Well... with my first board.. it just shut down when any pressure was applied to the socket.
And I just had to do some testing... :)
(The "mobile" CPU's sure take high temp's with ease..)
My 745 does 1.6V fine with a tiny chipset cooler (Swiftech MCX159). Loads under 30C priming (at 35C it will reboot no matter what the vcore - will reach that at 1.7V). Mind you that's from the bios on an 855GME-MGF, given that it idles at 9-15C with roughly 12C ambient temps, chances are its reading a bit low. The heatsink itself is only mildly warm on load so it's still pretty cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by toledo
lol, I can bench at 2640, 220x12, 221x12 it freezes instantly. I got idle 37°C and 55°C full load.
I use the stock cooler .... i tested only with 1,6v if it is stable and maybe for benchmarks and nothing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by toledo
I just got a 725 Dothan B1 that runs 201FSB x 10. Priming there now. Will try higher, but it looks like it's a poor clocker 201x12 @ 1.45vcore froze up, so not that exciting. Just the first B1 I've used that can run stably above 200FSB.
Gaming performance-wise, how much would I lose if I only ran 200FSB 1:1 as opposed to 250+?
edit: Priming @ 187x15 @ 1.525vcore now.
Edit2: Looks like it will be prime stable @ 2800mhz with the board drooping as low as 1.5vcore.
Well new ct-479 arrived and still exact same problem with my 730's. Guess I'll try another board (the only cpu I tested the p4c800e-d with was the origional 730 which apparently cuts out right at the FSBx12 that I'm stuck at, and didn't support multi adjust when I tested it, so maybe I was hitting that cpu's max and assuming it was a FSB max) then call it quits.
On the plus side, I can now offer a decent combo deal and get rid of this board, my massacred ct-479 and my B1 725 all at once.
hi, first post @ this forum :D
so i must show my baby
p-m 770 [cooled by zm 7700-cu]
asus p4p800-se [vdroop, vdimm, vagp, vcore]
2*512mb twinmos "old" BH5
NT-Mod 3,3v @3,7v | 5v @ 5,2v | 12v@12,3v
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2...2mhz1gv.th.jpg
my best time
http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/1...3mhz3st.th.jpg
my highest mhz @1,6vcore
http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/1497/ap33or.th.jpg
nice cpu points
http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/1143/pi32m4to.th.jpg
1,6vcore real
have some little prob's with my twinmos BH5's, they want not higher then 226 @2/2/2/5 @3,5vdimm :( ram was tested by a friend with the p4p800-se@250@3,5vdimm ...
think my board is crappy, or any idea's?
thanks,
perator
Welcome Perator :toast:
Nice clocks :D
And about those mem clocks, it could be the memorycontroller :)
thanks,Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
grml, the memorycontroller is inside of the cpu, right?
hm, it can test it when in set the ram timings higher and then the fsb higher, or?
because the memorycontroller will crash at a higher fsb, could that be?
edit:
i tested it now, yes its the memorycontroller ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by perator
no, it isnt on intel-cpus. only a64 cpus have an integrated mem-controller.
intel-boards have a northbridge which contain the mem-controller. a little more voltage on the northbridge should do the job.
hm thanks,
the NB get his voltage from the vagp or?
Vagp mod seems to give some boards a boost so try it out :) BTW, very nice CPU speed :)Quote:
Originally Posted by perator