yeah whos going first. :)
I'm still on 711 but it would be nice to see a few more options.
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yeah whos going first. :)
I'm still on 711 but it would be nice to see a few more options.
The onboard sound DEFINITELY causes slow boot on almost every P5B D - you must be VERY lucky :) I have personally used w3 different ones and each had the same ass onboard slow boot thing that's fixed by disabling it in BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakulukia
i was given an audigy2 the other day, it boots a lot quicker...
always less than 5 passes of the bars now
lol 0903 gives me overclocking failure at the same oc at 0804. I stick with 0804, it works the best here. please make a better bios asus WITHOUT PCI-1x problem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappie
You said that you tested with ata disk,so u disabled the intel controller. You noticed that it booted faster,
conlcusion= slow boot is also caused by intel controller.
We ve been talking about this issue, but how long exactly is this ''slow boot''?
20 seconds? 30 seC? when do u start counting, before windows xp screen with loading bar, or after?
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Can any1 make clear which drivers must be installed during installation of windows vista?
I am getting a ''cannot find source DVD error''.
i'm using the intel matrix raid :shrug:
seems pretty fast here since i switched audio
Im getting a SATA DVD-RW tomorrow and I will probably get a sound card as the audio drivers are just so ****. I can't record in game sound because there is no sound mix thing so all I get is hissing. Same with DivX encoding.
**** tbh. Good board but a few ****ing annoying problems.
Asus. SORT IT NOW.
Read carefully what I said in my previous post here, you'll see that I haven't disabled my intel controller at all. I just run my two SATA drives off of these ports along with a single ATA harddrive(running as slave). So I am booting into windows from the SATA disk, not from the IDE disk. What I am concluding is that windows boottime is considerably decreased when using an IDE harddrive on the IDE connector instead of using a CDROM or DVDROM drive. Don't look at this as the entire boottime cuz thats not the issue here, detection of drives at clean boot happens very fast, what I am referring to with slow booting is actually the windows splash bars part(you know where you see the blue bar go across). Everything else before that happens superfast for me, as I am sure it does for most of you as well(atleast the ones who installed c_funs intel msm 6.2.0.2002-all.exe drivers to fix the slow AHCI detection at bootup).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakulukia
When I did all fixes mentioned in this thread and used the drivers from c_fun, bootvissed my :banana::banana::banana::banana:, disabled audio, etc I still simply COULD NOT go lower than 4,5 splash bars. For me this is tediously slow, allow me to explain why.
A friend of mine has a moviepc, its an old socket 754 MSI motherboard with a 3400+ athlon, nothing is overclocked, everything bios default, he also has about 10 harddrives booting up, some old ATA drives, some SATA, few firewire and a couple of USB, now you would say that this comp would boot into windows much slower than mine when it reaches the SPLASH BAR part of windows, but nope, this PC beats me hands down, it will boot to windows in just 3 splash bars. So while he is slower at HD detection, he is still faster than me at the splash part????
So like I said, when using an IDE harddrive instead of my NEC burner my splash bar goes from 5 splashes to 1,5 across. Take away the IDE harddrive and gone is my fast boot, disable Jmicron completely and gone is my fast boot, replace my DVD burner on the IDE channel and again gone is my fast boot and its back to 5 splash bars across.
So whatever this problem is, this motherboard seems to like having an IDE harddrive running off of that single IDE connector, there's no denying that. So far I am a sole account, what I need is for other people to check this so you can start seeing similarities. Everyone probably has an old IDE harddisk lying around, would be very easy to disconnect IDE cdrom for a while, connect IDE harddisk and check to see if my story holds up for you as well. Just watch and count the splash bars:):)
It seems like everyone missed this post;).Quote:
Originally Posted by neobremen
I didnt :)Quote:
Originally Posted by serious1
Took the plunge and flashed the BIOS.
Had to reseat the goddamn CPU for it to boot for me. Even RTC CMON clear jumper + battery out didnt help.
But neways, since I am stuck on boxed cooling... did some stability testing.....
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/103...testingeu2.jpg
Gskill 2gbhz timings:
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5631/memsetsm3.jpg
I will test if 4:5 problem is solved for me with this @ 400 Mhz. Evidently the ram can do 500 Mhz 4-4-4-12-4-30-disabled-3-9-5-9 @ only 2.3V but refuses to work 4:5 with 400FSB.
Regards,
Karan
I think 4:5 is more of a chipset limitation then a bios limitation, the only reason for me to upgrade would be some sort of magic performance boost or the options to choose my strap settings.
GS Technician said that with 4:5 divider we must use 7+ TRD, and someone did try that thru memset, even tho i cant seem to find value that said TRD in memset (any info?im a noob). But mine works fine with 4:5 divider with elpida sticks. Currently @400 cpufsb and 500memfsb 4-5-5-14-4-62-12-12-12-12 @2.3 v. Maximum tested DDR1020 with 5-5-5-15
@Revv23
Could u show us your SPI and/or SiSoft Sandra mem bandwidth results from the one that u got by clockgening up from 1066strap and from the other one u got by booting straight from bios @the same fsb?Thanks
-tam2-
Cappie - probably what happens is Windows has drivers installed so it looks for stuff that should be on those devices. Try this, uninstall the IDE controller in Windows, then disable the Jmicron and see what happens. That chip is crap.
I know what you mean about fast boot on "simpler" computers. I gave my old P4PE/Pentium IV 2.4ghz, 1 gig of RAM, Radeon 9500 pro, to my mother for her office. It has two IDE drives and DVD-ROM attached, it boots in like 2-3 bars. What's funny is the system drive I gave her is even more ancient, like ATA 66, out of an old 1999 Dell. It doesn't have that much miileage on it, I used it in the Dell for like a year then it was intermittently used as storage and sometimes sitting in a box...
Alls I know is Vista boots a crapload faster. I hardly like booting into XP anymore...Anyone want to compare Vista load bars?
it has to be your hardware!...my P5B boot's up very nicely with SATA 1 drive.
vista is a pile of crap once you get to the desktop....is that all you are complaining about is boot time between Xp and Vista?
Quote:
Originally Posted by sluzbenik
I can boot into Windows easily to 520, & run benches too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakulukia
Orthos locks up system unfortunately, but i can't run over 500 24/7, so i don't care.
I'd like to see the 0903 changelog before switching from 0711, as i have had no issues at all with it, & i don't like messing with a good thing...
Just got my P5B Deluxe non-Wifi board yesterday, set it up last night so less than 12hrs old this system. But booted up straight from bios with 500fsb fine so far :)
System:
- Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe QPGE B1 Step 5
- Swiftech G4 Storm/Thermochill 120.3/MCP650 + Kayl 100W Custom PSU
- Asus P5B Deluxe 0804 bios (upgraded from 0405 bios)
- 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI card for initial tests
- 2GB OCZ PC2-8000 Titanium Alpha VX2 Micron D9GKX
- 500GB Seagate 7200.10 SATAII
- LiteOn 165H DVD-ROM
- FDD
- 1KW OCZ ProXStream 1000PXS Quad PCI-E psu
E6600 @3500Mhz - 7x500FSB boot from bios
AI Tuning: Manual
CPU Frequency: 500
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000Mhz
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33Mhz
Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Memory Voltage: 2.25v
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.4v (1.352v)
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.3v (tried AUTO fine for memtest but used 1.3v for booting for now)
NB Vcore: 1.45 (tried AUTO fine for memtest but used 1.45v for booting for now)
SB Vcore (SATA/PCIE): AUTO
ICH Chipset Voltage: AUTO
Memory Remap Feature: Disabled
Configure DRAM Timing by SPD: Disabled
DDRAM CAS# Latency: 4
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 4
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12
DRAM Write Recovery Time: 6
DRAM TRFC: 42
DRAM TRRD: 10
Rank Write to Read Delay: 10
Read to Precharge Delay: 10
Write to Precharge Delay: 10
Static Read Control: Disabled
Modify Ratio Support: Enabled
Ratio CMOS Setting: 7x
CIE Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled
click images for full screenshots
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...lidated_tn.png
Windows idle
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...uz_idle_tn.png
Stressprime 'Orthos' Large FFTs + Systool dual 32M PI
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...ts_load_tn.png
E6600 @3600Mhz - 9x400FSB boot from bios
AI Tuning: Manual
CPU Frequency: 400
DRAM Frequency: DRR2-800Mhz
PCI Express Frequency: 100
PCI Clock Synchronization Mode: 33.33Mhz
Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Memory Voltage: 2.1v
CPU Vcore Voltage: 1.4375v (1.384v)
FSB Termination Voltage: AUTO
NB Vcore: AUTO
SB Vcore (SATA/PCIE): AUTO
ICH Chipset Voltage: AUTO
Memory Remap Feature: Disabled
Configure DRAM Timing by SPD: Disabled
DDRAM CAS# Latency: 4
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 4
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 12
DRAM Write Recovery Time: 6
DRAM TRFC: 42
DRAM TRRD: 10
Rank Write to Read Delay: 10
Read to Precharge Delay: 10
Write to Precharge Delay: 10
Static Read Control: Disabled
Modify Ratio Support: Enabled
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9x
CIE Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled
click images for full screenshots
Stressprime 'Orthos' small FFTs load
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...me_load_tn.png
Now to figure out the timings and mem clocking behaviour for this board.. my first 965P based board since i mainly used P5W DH and D975XBX Badaxe rev304 before heh.
Question, OC profiles are they meant to work properly ? i tried once to load an OC profile after a cmos clearing, but it didn't boot after i exited bios until i powered down pc and booted back up ?
Nice post Eva, informative and thorough as always, much appreciated.
Unfortunately I don't have an answer for the OC profiles question myself.
Thats a good tip, will try that, thnx:)Quote:
Originally Posted by sluzbenik
Nope, not my hardware cuz it hasn't changed since my previous motherboard and on that I could boot in 2 splash bars into windows(same Hd's, same cdrom, same PSU).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
EDIT: I uninstalled all references to my IDE channels as you can see here,
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2...isabledsl9.jpg
then I disabled Jmicron in bios, booted up again and we'r right back where we started, 5 splash bars. I can't delete the AHCI thingie cuz then my SATA won't be detected anymore. So its not windows looking for drivers or devices it installed, it is what I said it was, Jmicron simply works best with an IDE harddrive running from it and its proven again:LOL: Now to find out why this is so is an entirely diff matter:( Normally you would say having nothing running from that would be better but it isn't, very strange indeed!!
Um...I'm getting owned by a Jmicron warning or something about my CD/DVD drive immediately after post screen...anyone else facing this problem? I'm currently on 0903 bios, but I test 0804 and 0711 bios's too, same ****.
could you be more specific man, its all about details here, be as detailed as you can be how else can people help you out? What warning, what error, what problem, ....
Uh-oh, I'm a bit tired with this 1x thing. I just tried to play a game but it wouldn't run very well with the 1x pcie. :/
I never had a problem. Boot is very fast. Every bios if used, the onboard sound was fine, and boot fine also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
I must say the sound quality is good too, although i use the TOSLINK outputs.
did you try what i suggested a page back?Quote:
Originally Posted by china
Yes, I did. It works for a while, but then the problem returns. It think this time it was because I had to to restart my computer before today. It rarely occurs after a cold boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
Ya everytime i reboot the 1x issue reoccurs. So everytime i turn the computer on i go into the bios and adjust the PCIe clock.