Ahh. I getcha. The exact model number is F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI.
Ahh. I getcha. The exact model number is F2-8500CL5D-4GBPI.
help please :)Quote:
Hi, I'm insanely new at overclocking with the Maximus Formula. I was wondering if anybody has the same hardware as I do, since I really want to get a 4ghz stable on my proc.
Here's my specs:
Intel Q9550 C1 stepping
Asus Maximus Formula
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2x1GB ddr2 800mhz
CPU and NB is watercooled.
SB is passively cooled.
If you need any other info, please don't hesitate to ask, I really need help. I don't get how the settings on the Extreme Tweaker work :| thanks guys!
What have you tried so far?Quote:
Originally Posted by InfinityNX
Try these settings for your G.Skill @ 1132; you may have to give it 2.14v - 2.20v.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Primary: 5-5-5-15-4-52-8-4
Secondary: 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
Tertiary: 16-6-1-6-6
There's no noticeable impact on performance
* What revised relaxed timings?
You can further enhance overclock by this:
5-5-5-15-5-55-10-5
8-3-5-4-6-4-6
18-7-1-6-6
Those everest read and copy numbers look very low, what PL? Running PL7 here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
My current stable ram settingsQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1132
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 350ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 350ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 5
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 65
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 5
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 10
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 16
Read to PRE Delay : 6
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Dram Read Training : Disabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
I will try your suggestions, and thanks:up:
GrnFinger what are your bios setting for your e8600 on your x38, im stuck at 4.4, on my maximus formula(does 500 FSB+)youve been a great help in this thread so far.
Sadly they did not work, still running Mushkin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Post your current 4.4 setupQuote:
Originally Posted by JCGhz
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
My Bios setup or just system?
Here's my System
Maximus Formula-1207 Bios-
E8600 820A324-Lapped 4.4Ghz 1.4v Under Load 1.425 in bios
My Load temps after 12 Hours Prime-61c
I could only do 4330 before lapping. I can post 4.5 and even game w 1.4v but no Prime or Othos stable.
TRUE 120 Dual 120's Push Pull-Lapped
2x2GB GSkill PC28000
the rampage bios wouldnt let me reach 500fsb but i had better superpi with it. So im back to stock.
bios setup pleaseQuote:
Originally Posted by JCGhz
Wheee - running 4.2Ghz the now - got 4.3GHz booting and stable but its a tad high for my liking... tried 4.4GHz again for lolz but not stable enough for screenshots ro anything :(
~Bex
Grnfinger
This was my setup for my 3.6 overclock (which was the max I could get, still unstable)
Quote:
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: [8.5]
FSB Frequency [424]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [Auto]
PCIE Frequency [110]
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency [848MHz]
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time [12]
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time [42]
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Strong]
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage [1.38]
CPU PLL Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge Voltage [1.61v]
DRAM Voltage [2.20v]
FSB Termination Voltage [1.54v]
South Bridge Voltage [Auto]
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.63x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage [Auto]
Will do.. Thanks for the reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I do favor using a 400 FSB Strap to the North Bridge, but is the multi Ratio CMOS Setting, or Common Performance Level?
Not sure wich one to make 8. :)
ratio cmos settingQuote:
Originally Posted by Talonman
Thanks..
Going into 308 with my Q6600 and these settings:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : whatever your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.35
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
Use Prime small fft's to test cpu only first.Quote:
Originally Posted by InfinityNX
Your ram unlees its the older BT's will not be compatable with this board and you will experience alot of difficulties using it.
So I will concentrate on cpu only for now.
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge 333
PCIE Frequency 100
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency 901
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time 15
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister moderate
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage 1.40 ( start here and adjustments can be made later)
CPU PLL Voltage 1.50
North Bridge Voltage 1.51
DRAM Voltage [2.20v]
FSB Termination Voltage 1.40
South Bridge Voltage 1.050
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.65x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.50
@Grnfinger
I think they're the old BT's (they're double-sided)
@Grnfinger
Tried the BIOS setup you gave, but it didn't boot. I increased the CPU voltage from 1.4 to 1.45 then 1.50, but still, same problem. I think the problem was with the RAM, since the BT lights didn't even light up for all boot-tests. Any other advice you can give?
Thanks for your help btw.
What do you think about it:
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5...ax64vd6.th.gif
If Vcore>1.4xxx - i get this after some time runing prime.
if reboot after that - i get Det-Ram. Time losses depends from the Vcore
prime don't write error, continuing indefinitely to handle the same stage
:shakes:
Grnfinger, you da man! :clap: With your settings I can finally push my G.Skills above their 1066 limit, am currently running them at 546Mhz. :D Thanks for your help!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
As this is fully memtest86 stable, I'm going to try and push them some more and tighten up the timings. I will post my final results once I'm done, but I was just wondering what voltage people here have put through their G.Skills without breaking them? Here I've seen 2.2V being mentioned but it seems a bit high for these sticks no? Currently I'm at 2.11 real and as I have a fan running over them, I am willing to go up a bit more...
les_paulde
Use MemTest 3.7. It is much more harder than MemTest86+.
Thanks for the tip waterflex! this is the windows based version where you have to open a couple of instances in order to test the full 4Gb right? If so then i should be all good as I've been using a combination of the two: first memtest to get an initial feel for the stability of the overclock without risking to corrupt any windows data, and then the windows-based memtest in combination with prime blend to fully confirm stability.
Another benefit i guess is that you can fine-tune your settings while staying in windows using memset, to then quickly check it without having to reboot. I reckon this can really speed the whole process of overclocking up alot. :up:
I've ran my setup for quite some time now, and it has been rock stable.
Now, I decided to get another 2x2GB of Mushkin Xtreme Performance RAM for 8GB total.
However, I can't seem to get it stable at all.
I've tried upping NB volts, DDR volts, FSB termination volts but doesnt seem to work.
Currently running BIOS 1004.
In theory, what values should you bump when going from 2x2GB to 4x2GB filling all slots?
I've also tried different setups for RAM settings.
Does anyone have a setup with a QX9650 that works with 8GB of RAM at 4 GHz ?
If so I would like to see your Extreme Tweaker settings to get an idea.
Would changing the BIOS to ie 1201 work better with a 8GB setup?
Rampage Formula arrived. Q6600 @ 480MHz FSB Prime Blend/Linpack stable with 1.44v vNB (random voltage picked to just start me off, will lower it soon), 1.6v vPLL, 1.25v vFSBT, 2.096v vDimm. PL7 1:1 atm. This board is nice. :D
490MHz Prime Blending right now @ same voltages as above!!! :D
Man, I'm not getting this at the moment. :shrug:
What's going on is that I've been trying to run my G.Skills above their rated speed, and have been successful thanks to Grnfinger, according to both memtest86 and memtest 3.7 for windows. But what happens sometimes, is that while in windows (regardless if i'm idle or not), the screen will go black to then return to Vista (business x64) with the message that ATIKMDIAG.SYS has crashed and was recovered. Sometimes I'm not so lucky and the computer just reboots after a BSOD. My graphics cards are not overclocked atm, and I've really been able to single this out to the speed at which my ram is running, as this also happens when my cpu and motherboard are running at close to stock (270 fsb instead of 266). Anything above 533mhz and these problems arise but it doesnt make any sense to me that there would be a problem with the memory if Prime Blend and memtest 3.7 show no errors over a 10hr testing period. :confused: :shakes:
Anybody here experienced something similar and cares to shed some light on this? Thanks!
Very niceQuote:
Originally Posted by kup
I'm still waiting for a replacement Rampage.
The shop had to order one, didnt think is was going to be this long.
I have a couple of times running high FSB, couple drops of NB volts and all was fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by les_paulde
As for your ram the GSkills will handle 2.2 volts actual so set 2.12 in bios and it will help squeeze a few more MHz out of them
Double post alert but its required :D
Was moaning on the weekend about my 20" inch screen and the one dead pixel that was anoying the hell out of me.
So Sunday my wife took off to the mall for a few hours and left me home alone with the kids :shocked:
When she returned I was ready to hang myself in the basement but after seeing what she bought me ......
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/DSCF0103.jpg
Its only a cheapo RCA 32" but DAMN its fun to game on :up:
^^^^ Very nice; lucky guy. :)
RF 0501. Solves Adaptec Raid issue, supposedly is a bit faster; comes with usual disclaimer: RF 0501
How is it a bit faster? Bandwidth?
I'm up to 495MHz FSB Prime Blend stable! :D All the same except 1.51v vNB now. :D
I'll have to decide soon whether to keep the Rampage Extreme or the Formula...
The Extreme is such an awesome board, but the RAM compatibility is horrible so far.
Haven't tested yet, so I can't say for sure. I'm a little tied down right now. I see you're having lots of fun, ain't ya? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I'm surprised you're having problems with the extreme; per my results, and now Kup, I can say you'll probably see a significant change in performance/stability with RF.Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
The Extreme is awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
500 FSB without batting an eye.
My DDR3 is running at 1200 MHz because it won't go higher.
I think I'll probably wait it out. Even at that speed, I'm getting better bandwidth than my DDR2 got at it's max, so that's something.
I just hope they don't abandon the bios development now that the Rampage II Extreme X58 is around the corner.
There's just something to be said for the nice stability of the relatively mature bios of the Formula.
But I'd rather move forward than back :D
The first thing I noticed with the Rampage over the Maximus was that the Rampage doesn't overvolt the ram so much! :D And yes, the actual Rampage PCB (over the Maximus PCB with or without the Rampage bios) is much much more stable!!! :cool: :D :up: This system is absolutely rock solid, and it feels much more stable than my old Maximus or even my absolutely rock solid P5K-E! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Testing @ 500MHz FSB now, video and Prime Blend! :cool:
@ kup:
What voltage are you useing for each interval on the cpu?
1.6v vPLL, 1.25v vFSBT, 2.096v vDimm. PL7 1:1 atm
^^ These constant throughout so far? ^^ (except the NB)?
EDIT: Also - what cooling you using? Water? - i have a Lapped TRUE with 2 STUPIDLY powerful fans on it (38*120mm 130cfm)
Those voltages are; 1.51v vNB, 1.616v vPLL, 1.25v vFSBT, 2.096v vDimm. vCore is @ 1.275v for 3GHz right now for testing. I could push to 3.825GHz with 1.5v on the P5K-E so I'm curious to see how the Rampage can push the Q6600...Quote:
Originally Posted by scottath
Cooling is all on air. TRUE on Q6600, stock Rampage cooling (except MX2 on northbridge and southbridge.
Currently i'm running the P5E with the Rampage bios, AS5 on NB/SB/Mofets and 3 fans strapped to the nb heatsink
I normally run 3.6ghz at just under 1.50v
I can run 3dmark06 at 3.96ghz but that is with stupid voltages (1.7v) so one of the other voltages/tweaks must be holdign it back.
There is a guy on OCAU who has a q6600 from the same batch as mine that with phase change got to around 4.3ghz from memory so i'm hoping for this ship of mine to go high.....
I'll be watching your progress closely - will help us alot i think.
I came from a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 and there are so many options even in the stock P5E bios that i have no clue about - the rampage bios is even more filled with unknowns
Quote:
Use Prime small fft's to test cpu only first.
Your ram unlees its the older BT's will not be compatable with this board and you will experience alot of difficulties using it.
So I will concentrate on cpu only for now.
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge 333
PCIE Frequency 100
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency 901
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time 15
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister moderate
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage 1.40 ( start here and adjustments can be made later)
CPU PLL Voltage 1.50
North Bridge Voltage 1.51
DRAM Voltage [2.20v]
FSB Termination Voltage 1.40
South Bridge Voltage 1.050
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.65x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.50
bump :)Quote:
@Grnfinger
Tried the BIOS setup you gave, but it didn't boot. I increased the CPU voltage from 1.4 to 1.45 then 1.50, but still, same problem. I think the problem was with the RAM, since the BT lights didn't even light up for all boot-tests. Any other advice you can give?
Thanks for your help btw.
Well I've run my old Maximus at up to 480MHz FSB with silly voltages but it was never 24/7 stable. This Rampage is rock solid @ 500MHz FSB with lower voltages than my Maximus needed for 450MHz FSB! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by scottath
OK, so 500MHz FSB can Prime Blend for about an hour (give or take 5mins) before one and only one thread gives up. What could be the cause of this? I've tried more vNB and advancing the Skew to 350 but still no resolution?
try a notch or 2 of PLLQuote:
Originally Posted by kup
This will sound terribly n00b of me, but what would you recommend for vPLL? I'm currently running @ 1.616v vPLL, 1.328v vFSBT and 1.51v vNB.
So I just flashed my MF to RF bios 410. My temp sensor in PC Probe is way off, reading 21c when Core Temp is at 47-47-35-35c, ambient is at 25c. Should this be expected or should I go to 308? Specs are in sig except I have a Maximus Formula instead of a Blitz now. Core Temp seems to be correct based on previous readings by the way.
Thanks,
Utnorris
Ignore the CPU readings and stick with CoreTemp. Quite a few Asus bios' have the same issue. I always watching my Quad idle at 5c below ambient. :D
hmm your pll seems high enough already. but 1.65 would be my maxQuote:
Originally Posted by kup
for 500FSB your NB volts could go up a bit. maybe 1.53-1.55
Zucker2K would have better hands on than me if anyone can get a high FSB stable on the rampage it would be him.
Cheers dude. This x48 Northbridge is much hotter than the x38. If I can keep it below 42c (120mm fan across board does it fine) it'll stay stable at 500MHz. It'll crash once it breaks 42c without the fan though...
I think I'm going to push for more this afternoon because I just realised I was running the Transaction Booster on STRONGER @ 500MHz...oops!
Help :|
Quote:
Use Prime small fft's to test cpu only first.
Your ram unlees its the older BT's will not be compatable with this board and you will experience alot of difficulties using it.
So I will concentrate on cpu only for now.
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8.5
FSB Frequency 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge 333
PCIE Frequency 100
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency 901
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time 15
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister moderate
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage 1.40 ( start here and adjustments can be made later)
CPU PLL Voltage 1.50
North Bridge Voltage 1.51
DRAM Voltage [2.20v]
FSB Termination Voltage 1.40
South Bridge Voltage 1.050
Loadline Calibration [Enabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.65x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.67x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.50
Quote:
@Grnfinger
Tried the BIOS setup you gave, but it didn't boot. I increased the CPU voltage from 1.4 to 1.45 then 1.50, but still, same problem. I think the problem was with the RAM, since the BT lights didn't even light up for all boot-tests. Any other advice you can give?
Thanks for your help btw.
BTW, the rams i'm using are the old BT's (dual sided)
Alright guys....I'm finally callin in for some help.
I've had my MF flashed to RF 308 for a while and I have some completely rock solid stable settings right now. I have a q6600(vid 1.2125 L737B). my current settings are:
CPU Feature
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
CPU Ratio Control [Manual]
Ratio CMOS Setting: 8
FSB Frequency 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge 400
PCIE Frequency 100
DRAM Settings
DRAM Frequency 1066
DRAM Command Rate [2T]
DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
RAS# to CAS Delay [5]
RAS# Precharge [5]
RAS# Active Time 15
RAS# To Ras# Delay [3]
Row Refresh Cycle Time 55
Write Recovery Time [6]
Read To Precharge Time [3]
Read To Write Delay(S/D) [8]
Write To Read Delay(S) [3]
Write To Read Delay(D) [5]
Read To Read Delay(S) [4]
Read To Read Delay(D) [6]
Write To Write Delay(S) [4]
Write To Write Delay(D) [6]
DRAM Static Read Control [Enabled]
Ai Clock Twister moderate
Transaction Booster [Enabled]
Boost Level [0]
Voltage Settings
CPU Voltage 1.26875
CPU PLL Voltage 1.50
North Bridge Voltage 1.20
DRAM Voltage [1.96v]
FSB Termination Voltage - Lowest setting I forget what it is.
South Bridge Voltage 1.050
Loadline Calibration [Disabled]
CPU GTL Reference [0.62x]
North Bridge GTL Reference [0.49x]
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage DDR2-REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage [DDR2_REF]
SB 1.5V Voltage 1.50
I can not for the life of my just get to 3.6 (9*400). UI've uppe vcore to 1.4 with laod line, I've went past 1.4v. I've upped PLL and FSBT. Before I say it's the chip....I'm throwing myself on all of your wonderful OC'ing ability.
HELP ME GET TO 3.6 or beyond....Thanks:)
How does it do at 1.45v?
That's what my Q6600 needed for 3.6GHz
510MHz Prime Blend stable... :D When I reach the maximum, I'll post screenies! Remember, this is on a Q6600...
So, I now have my MF up and running with RF Bios 410. I haven't tweaked it yet, but so far I am stable at 4.16Ghz, 416x10, which I could not do on my Blitz, so very pleased so far. Now I just need to find someone's settings with a QX9650 so I can understand what does what as the bios settings are different than the Blitz. Hopefully I can push my chip to 4.5Ghz, but we will see.
Nice stuff, Kup!
It does terrible. It's not stable and it hits temps of 80 degrees. Mind you this is with a CPU only loop with a PA120.3 3 yate lows(or high's I tried both) and a DDC with petras top.Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
Cheers, dude! :cool: I really really wanna run 533MHz FSB 1:1 so I can run my ram in sync but I don't think it's gunna happen without water on the Northbridge... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
You may want to try reseating that block, I never hit that high on my Q6600 when I had it and that was at 1.56v vcore. I was using a MCR220, MCP355 with Petra top and D-Tek Fuzion at the time. Highest I hit was 62c with ambients at 28c.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunlance
That's strange. I never hit those temps on air with my TRUE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunlance
That's a serious LC loop there.
How's the mounting? Is your Fuzion nozzled? How are the innards on the block?
Well...there's only one fix for that problem. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kup
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c..._2018_25405039
try running same setup but change FSB to 420 for now and see if it boots.Quote:
Originally Posted by InfinityNX
I had a 425 FSB limit on X38 Maximus with my Q9550, so lets try to rule out the FSB limit first
I have nozzles just not in the block :). The chip has reacted like this ever since I got it. The block has been mounted so many times with so many different TIMs. I've been trying to read up on FSBT and vPLL and what not but I have no idea how those affect the quads at high values. Been trying to figure it out by trial and error and I haven't gotten any kind of pattern going.
Quick question, FSBT is VTT correct? Also, what is SB2?
Thanks
They won't hurt it as much as the rumours say. Most of the scare has been around 45nm parts, though Benchzowner has been running several 45nm chips at ridiculously high PLL and VTT for over a month now with no noticeable effects.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunlance
I suggest putting in the quad nozzle on your Fuzion.
It's in the pipeline...just found and bought an ancient Chieftec Dragon Full Tower to build my water cooling into. Should be fun! :D I want 2x 3x120mm Rads, a Peltier cooled Res' (which optional off switch) and copper piping around the edge of the case instead of tubing all over it...Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
It should look rather nice once it's finished! :up:
try bolded, goodluckQuote:
Originally Posted by Gunlance
Keep pushing it; I did 510 on Maximus with Q6600, I'm sure RF can do more. Goodluck :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
:shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
The stock nozzle is actually better than the quad nozzle, according to many reviews on the net, and in my own experience. I have a quad nozzle sitting here, seeing no action.
On the Fuzion V2 that is correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
But on the V1, the quad nozzle is better.
510MHz FSB Prime Blend stable @ 2.5Hours. Testing 515MHz FSB now. :D
What settings are you running for that kup?
Can i get a list of the settings like how Zucker2k did in post 7064
Thanks - keep going - looks like you have a nice board......and a better chip
What fan setup you got on your TRUE? and what prime temps were you getting at 4.5ghz?
Can i get a picture please.
I'll have to do a bios layout tomorrow. I'm not running @ 4.5GHz on the Quad. It maxes out about 3.85GHz on air.
Basic bios layout for 515MHz FSB are 1.65v vNB, 1.6v vPLL, 1.5v vFSBT, Transaction Booster @ Stronger, PL10 (might be 9 atm... :D). Everything else is stock/auto right now.
On the TRUE I have 2x 120mm Sharkoon Silent Eagle 75cfm fans in a push/pull setup.
sorry for the noobie post, but i was wondering why the "FSB Strap to North Bridge-setting" does not let me adjust the Rated FSB speed.
The setting "DRAM Frequency: DDR2- XXX" is not letting me clock the mem slow enough, i have ddr2 6400 ocz, will max about 860Mhz...
This gives me the problem that i cannot oc my e8400 on my Maximus Formula anymore without getting faster RAM, is this correct?
(3.870Mhz, +-1780Mhz Rated FSB, 860Mhz mem, stable voltages all on auto, tested 4 hours orthos small FFT's)
Why is the Rated FSB getting so high?
The strap and the actual FSB are different.Quote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
The FSB determines your FSB and DDR rate, while the FSB Strap determines your divider.
You need to set the FSB manually to whatever value you like (I guess somewhere around 400 for 800MHz RAM). Then on the 333 or 400 strap, you can run the RAM at 1:1 to get 800MHz DDR2 and 1600 FSB
The lowest ratio offered is 1:1. You can't clock the RAM lower than that. So for your RAM, you might be able to get DDR2 900 and have your CPU run at 450 x 9 on the 333 or 400 strap on the1:1 divider.
:yepp: Easiest way is to set Auto for strap and you'll have all available dividers/ram frequencies.Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
Thanks! This is clear, i just need 1066Mhz mem to oc to 4.5Ghz+.
But still, why is the Rated FSB so much more then 1333Mhz?
Do i have to divide the rated FSB from CPUZ in 2?
Most people have it at +-2200Mhz? I still dont understand that.
Hoping to hit 4+Ghz today :)
for 2200Mhz Bus u got: 2200/4 = FSB (550Mhz)Quote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
so if u use FSB strap at 400Mhz and set the DDR at lowest option 1:1 u will got an 400 Mhz strap + manually increased 150Mhz = 550Mhz coupled w/ 1100Mhz DDR (FSB x 2) Double data Rate (DDR)
It's all based off the bus speed.
Then the RAM works on a divider of that multiplied by 2 and the FSB is 4x that.
So
400 FSB
Ram ratio of 4:5 = 500 = DDR21000
400 x 4 = 1600 FSB
My MF has 425FSB limit with my q9550 E0. Bought a Rampage Formula today to see what happends. Or should I have bought the Maximus II Formula?
It's all based off the bus speed.
Then the RAM works on a divider of that multiplied by 2 and the FSB is 4x that.
So
400 FSB
Ram ratio of 4:5 = 500 = DDR21000
400 x 4 = 1600 FSB
So far I´m impressed with my Rampage Formula experience.
Running 450x8.5 right now using Q9550 E0.
My Maximus flashed to Rampage could only prime at 425FSB.
Thanks everyone!
Got my Q827A E8400 cooled on Xigmatek S1384/ Maximus Formula stable on 4Ghz @ 1.240V around 42 Degrees stressed 14hrs (auto voltage)
Cant go higher because mem wont go over 920, will get new ram soon to hit 4.5+Ghz
(i dont like overvolting ram at all)
p.s Just cant compare my E8400 to my AMD X2 5000+@3.2, AMD is really far behind on performance and temps as it could not handle most games maxed with my 3870X2, but the E8400 can for example.
@Darkstormz; I thought q9550's only go to about 4Ghz or do you have water?
I´m not at 4GHz at the moment. But I´m pretty close. Running 460x8.5 right now aircooling. Temps 53-53-53-55 with TRUE120.Quote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
Nice :up: At those temps, you still have a lot of room to hit 4Ghz, 8.5x471. If you have ram that'll do 1132Mhz go that option; the Rampage Formula will allow you to run PL 7 at that frequency and you should be getting 10,000+ all across in Everest benchmark. Otherwise, 1:1 strap is not shabby either @ PL8; and you could run tighter timings and even stronger aiclock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkstormz
4GHz done at pretty high vcore. Wanted to make sure the NB could handle the pressure :)
I´m going to lap the CPU tonight I think. I use a TRUE with PUSH-PULL.
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/2...4ghzls9.th.jpghttp://img379.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif
Hi I'm new member here at Extreme Systems,
I am having trouble obtaining a stable over clock with my current bios configuration(Blend test will always fail 1 of x for a result of 90%).
I think it is the MHCI(I think that is what the memory controller on Intel boards are called...) as memory checks out after running mem test+ for 10 hours or so.
I think i may have some of the voltages too high as I'm still learning about newer generation Intel chips and there corresponding boards.
Maximus Formula Converted to a Rampage Formula
BIOS: 0410
Lapped Q6600(Go Stepping VID:1.270~) with a TRUE Extreme
4x1GB Transcend 1200MHz Axe Ram(all are DB9)
PSU Silverstone 850Watt Olympic(64Amp +12V)
(if you need/want more hardware information just ask)
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 400
DRAM Clock CMD Skew CH1 A1 : AUTO
DRAM Clock CMD Skew CH1 A2 : AUTO
DRAM Clock CLK Skew CH1 B1 : AUTO
DRAM Clock CLK Skew CH1 B2 : AUTO
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto/266
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1203
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 44
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [5]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
Hardware Monitor:
CPU Voltage : 1.4375 (1.43)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.56 (1.68)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.44 (1.56)
DRAM Voltage : 2.10 (2.20)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.53 (1.50)
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO (1.08)
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO (1.55)
As always thank you for any help.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
Welcome to the forums
Heres is what I would suggest
xtreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : Auto
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1200
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 4
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : what ever your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
So to confirm, you want me to change the following:
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : 8
Read to Precharge Time : 4
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Strong
Common Performance Level [7]
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
let me know if i missed any thing.
Well i tried the settings you suggested, and i lose USB functionality when i run stability test or have any kind of real system load. I'm thinking the north bridge, or is it south bridge that handles USB? At any point the system BSOD and now it feels like im stepping backwards instead of moving forward:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
I have a problem getting to 4.2+Ghz wit my E8400. (maximus Formula latest bios, good air cooled)
I have DDR2 800Mz wich i can run on 1Ghz stable on 2.1V(2x1GB). The funny thing is, i can only run it at 1Ghz when i do not oc my E8400.
When i leave the RAM Voltage on auto i can oc my CPU to 4Ghz resulting in my RAM running 890Mhz and that is also stable. My E8400 needs 1.24/1.28V for this oc but i dont know how to manage the RAM. (settings/voltage)
Can anybody point me in the right direction?
Found an interesting stability issue. I can prime all day and night... with Blend and pass 100%. But play a video and BAM, crash/lock. Now I'm prime Blending @ 520MHz FSB with a 720p Vid running via the CPU and an SD Vid playing via the CPU and it's catching problems FAR faster than before.
Zucker, do you think you could post up your 500MHz+ Maximus settings? If you could so it on an X38 I'd love to try the same settings on an X48 and see how they compare? Was it with a Q6600?
You will need to adjust voltages accordingly. Not every system is the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
This isnt please overclock my rig for me thread you will actually have to do some work on your own.
4x1GB sticks will tax the NB harder than 2x2GBs so you may have to raise the vNB, also depending on what you have attached to the SB volts may have to be raised.
All the information is in this thread, ppl have worked hard for a year learning this board and its limits. If you take the time to search and read this thread all information, and answers to questions are in it.
Yes, I used a Q6600. Here are the settings used; you'll probably need less volts all around...Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
FSB Frequency : 500
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1000 (1:1)
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : Auto (for 52, can't be set manually in bios)
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Auto
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [9]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.320 (CPU-Z)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.65v
DRAM Voltage : 1.80v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.50v
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050v
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.50v
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
Advanced CPU Configuration:
Everything Disabled
Thread here: 500FSB+ on Maximus Formula
Edit: With Vide problem, I'll bump pcie a bit, maybe SB too.
Fair enough, I however went back to the old settings for memory and FBS/ratio as there was a fairly large drop in the processors L1, and L2 cache speed with there Read and write speeds dropping by about 10Gb of through put(60Gb down to 50Gb and 30Gb down to 20Gb respectively).Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
On the other hand, with the memory though. Read, write(being the biggest Improver), copy, and latency all had better scores. I'm still stumped by that one as you suggested relaxed timings on the memory compared to what i had to start with, leaving me to think that it would be slower:shrug: However i am still learning about what means what in the terms of timings and propper voltage selection with the newer inlet products.
Every setup is different, I have never had success on the 266 strap so thats why I suggest 333, the higher FSB will help to compensate for the higher PL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
Some timings when relaxed will not hurt bandwidth much at all but will greatly improve stability.
Zucker2K, Kup, Zlojack are very experienced with the board and can offer other suggestions besides mine.
ZenEffect if you can find him is very well versed in ram tweaking and can offer a great deal of information.
Well i've been focusing on the NB, and have come to find out that:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
1) The NB heatsink wasn't screwed down(so it was lose).
2) After removing the NB and the SB cooler, to clean the epoxy resin like TIM off that people speak so lowly of here, I come to find out it wasn't even making contact wit the SB at all(SB didn't have even a smug of TIM on it):confused: and every so slightly(but not really)was making contact with the NB.
I'll be heading to a local hardware store in the morning to pickup some sanding/cleaning supplies fix that right up:rofl:
There has been a few heated debates on what is a max NB temp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commander_HK47
Intel states some insane number like 90c:rofl:
In real world we have come to find 47-50c load would be the max to maintain stability.
reseating the blocks would be the right choice.
My new MIIF suffered from the same problem, there were reports of the NB hitting 100c right out of the box and killing the board.
Seems Asus QA department isnt up to par:shrug:
Keep us posted on your progress:up:
Just 1 more quick question on my FSB-wall around 460, i see lots of settings i cannot give meaning like:
Maximus formula in bios:There is loadline calibration, mem performance setting (0-7) in light and strong, well you know what im talking about.
Also PLL voltage and VTT are not clear to me, my question is:
Will changing them affect my max oc? Just checking before i buy new ram for 100 euro and end up having the same FSB-wall.
To oc to 4Ghz i do not need to adjust any setting, cpu-,mem,NB-voltage do not help, are there any other setting that affect oc-ability positively?
Yes there is a direct relation to CPUPLL and FSBT they will affect stability greatly.Quote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
Increasing PLL can reduce vcore/ but will increase stability.
To low of a FSBT will result in a unstable chip.
to help elimate a FSB wall drop the multi down and try a higher FSB
Thanks for the info, i will try it right away. :)
(I have a FBS-wall around 460 because my ram wont oc stable when i oc my cpu, i can run it on 1066Mhz without oc-ing my cpu, so dropping the multi doesn't help with my current RAM)
If this doesn't help i will get new ram this week!
just run a different divider then, at 460 your options are limited but 920MHz running 4-4-4-12 would do rather wellQuote:
Originally Posted by 19*12 gamer
LOL was testing some things out and thus far i got 450*9(4.05GHZ)to load into windows and validate via CPU-Z although it doesn't report my memory speed correctly...(should say pc9600 for 1200MHZ ram but no biggy)
here is a link to the cpuid database page:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/banner/431720.png
Now for the Bad news it has taken cpu 1.58V to get in windows and i haven't even started to test it yet.
However i am wondering if there is a way to bring down the CPU volts need via PLL/FBS Termination Voltage?
I remember reading about that some where but am still kind of hazy on how that all works...
Ill edit/post more information in a sec about my NB situation with odd BIOS memory detection issues.
Hey! I'v just got my new Asus Maximus II Formula, Can som Post (Or Re-post) some picz of their Bios-settings?
I've got an E1200 celeron CPU (yeah, i know - it sucks :P). I have reaced 3.45 ghz (1.425 volt) already, but i want to get longer, and since i haven't change anything besides volt-settings, frequency, and disabled all that Eist-function :banana::banana::banana::banana:.
Someone? :)