Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

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Originally Posted by rge

So it is bclk or corresponding qpi of 18x189 (36 on gb is 18). I hit a wall at 215 bclk, slow mode does not help me, but others have reported they can go higher with slow mode as well on qpi. It is why some were asking for lower qpi multis...raising bclk raises everything, and limit may be qpi, though most can go higher than 189x18. If I raise qpi/vtt and qpi pll I can then go higher but have to go way up on them, others just moderate increase.

But try raising qpi/vtt to 1.45v (not going to hurt for one boot, I have benched for hours at 1.68vtt), and Dram to 1.7v, qpi PLL raise 2-3 notches. If that works, at least you know what problem is. also I am assuming you ruled out mem/uncore by using 6x multi and 13 uncore. And of course use 19 multi to try it, not 21. Also raise vcore to 1.45 and enable LLC...again just trying to get answers first, worry about settings later. One boot isnt going to hurt anything, once you learn problem, then you can decide your voltage limits.

One other thing you could try is bios F3, where TDP limits are in play..again just for testing.

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ok cool

I did tried 6x 13 uncore combo but nothing. will try upping voltage and see. if this does not work will try F3 bios.

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Originally Posted by rge

So it is bclk or corresponding qpi of 18x189 (36 on gb is 18). I hit a wall at 215 bclk, slow mode does not help me, but others have reported they can go higher with slow mode as well on qpi. It is why some were asking for lower qpi multis...raising bclk raises everything, and limit may be qpi, though most can go higher than 189x18. If I raise qpi/vtt and qpi pll I can then go higher but have to go way up on them, others just moderate increase.

But try raising qpi/vtt to 1.45v (not going to hurt for one boot, I have benched for hours at 1.68vtt), and Dram to 1.7v, qpi PLL raise 2-3 notches. If that works, at least you know what problem is. also I am assuming you ruled out mem/uncore by using 6x multi and 13 uncore. And of course use 19 multi to try it, not 21. Also raise vcore to 1.45 and enable LLC...again just trying to get answers first, worry about settings later. One boot isnt going to hurt anything, once you learn problem, then you can decide your voltage limits.

One other thing you could try is bios F3, where TDP limits are in play..again just for testing.

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WOW, you have one ROCKING 940 there, those are some amazing clocks, :eek: :up:

just postin results

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5...aaaaaaaa-1.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5...ty25/tooot.jpg

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Originally Posted by systemviper

WOW, you have one ROCKING 940 there, those are some amazing clocks, :eek: :up:

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Thanks...just got a decent i7, makes up for my other cpus I wasnt as lucky with.

Hello
I've read that Gigabyte UD4P is replacing UD5 and it has the same pcb and bios as UD5 and Extreme. The only differences ara mb stock cooling, single ethernet and 8 sata instead of 10. So is it worth getting the UD4P or should I try to find UD5 because it seems like we have shortage of UD5 boards here. Also I am considering of buying Asus P6T Deluxe. It would be good to get some advice from you.

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Originally Posted by Ozan Baseski

Hello
I've read that Gigabyte UD4P is replacing UD5 and it has the same pcb and bios as UD5 and Extreme. The only differences ara mb stock cooling, single ethernet and 8 sata instead of 10. So is it worth getting the UD4P or should I try to find UD5 because it seems like we have shortage of UD5 boards here. Also I am considering of buying Asus P6T Deluxe. It would be good to get some advice from you.

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To be honest, you won't be losing out any which way you choose to go on the above selections. I might try to snag the UD5 while you still can, it really is a premium board overall, but then so is the P6T Deluxe. I'd prefer the UD5 personally.

flashed to F5E from F4J, everythign seems to work alright with the same settings,so im happy. :)

DES and ET6 still dont work thought. :p:

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Originally Posted by rge

So it is bclk or corresponding qpi of 18x189 (36 on gb is 18). I hit a wall at 215 bclk, slow mode does not help me, but others have reported they can go higher with slow mode as well on qpi. It is why some were asking for lower qpi multis...raising bclk raises everything, and limit may be qpi, though most can go higher than 189x18. If I raise qpi/vtt and qpi pll I can then go higher but have to go way up on them, others just moderate increase.

But try raising qpi/vtt to 1.45v (not going to hurt for one boot, I have benched for hours at 1.68vtt), and Dram to 1.7v, qpi PLL raise 2-3 notches. If that works, at least you know what problem is. also I am assuming you ruled out mem/uncore by using 6x multi and 13 uncore. And of course use 19 multi to try it, not 21. Also raise vcore to 1.45 and enable LLC...again just trying to get answers first, worry about settings later. One boot isnt going to hurt anything, once you learn problem, then you can decide your voltage limits.

One other thing you could try is bios F3, where TDP limits are in play..again just for testing.

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No go, could it be my board is bad?
no matter which bios version I use, can not boot past 190. unless I set qpi to slow.

Its the cpu not the board.

Try to give more QPI voltage

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

Its the cpu not the board.

Try to give more QPI voltage

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you mean qpi/vtt? I had that thing up to 140v as suggested by RGE.

Plain air org cooler..
http://bandwidth.se/thumbs/nouser/4440spib130e285.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=495478

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Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard

what's an orgcooler? And would it matter what cooler you were using in sub-normal ambient temps?

I see allot of this lately.

Dude 1: "Hey look at my kick ass temps with the stock cooler"

Dude 2: "Nice what was the ambient temperature?"

Dude 1 "-20C"

Also mate, a 1m superpi run doesn't mean it's stable....at all.

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We have very cold here in sweden just now.

What are you for complaining, I can get my cpu at this speed without problems.
So stop GRUMBLING to my records, do reached similar instead stupid...

SteveRO the original cooler that came with the cpu, i have just started to test in my chip..

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Originally Posted by hlonipha

No go, could it be my board is bad?
no matter which bios version I use, can not boot past 190. unless I set qpi to slow.

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Like hornet said it is your cpu, sounds like you may have gotten unlucky with bclk limit. Intel has said some bclk's will have limit of 180's other 190's and most wont get past 220's, though few have. If we ever get lower qpi multi's that may help you, but dont know if that is coming anytime soon or at all on our chips.

I can do 215 bclk with minimal vtt/qpi, like 1.35 (I got one with decent limit, but not the best). Then to do 217 bclk, I need 1.64qpi. I have a soft wall at 215 and a hard wall at 217, the sharp cut off is amazing. But it is pointless for me to try to get above 215 bclk for anything other than benching.

You may have your first wall at 189. You might want to try raising qpi/vtt even higher...just for curiosity sake...but probably not going to go over 189 for 24/7 with your chip. But I would try at least 1.45 to 1.5v qpi/vtt once just to see if it will even boot at all, and raise qpi pll to 1.16 or so as well, it is necessary as well for me to go from 215 to 217.

Others have had the same problem, sold their chip, then got lucky on next purchase and OCed past 4, past 200 bclk, no problem with low qpi/vtt.

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Originally Posted by rge

Like hornet said it is your cpu, sounds like you may have gotten unlucky with bclk limit. Intel has said some bclk's will have limit of 180's other 190's and most wont get past 220's, though few have. If we ever get lower qpi multi's that may help you, but dont know if that is coming anytime soon or at all on our chips.

I can do 215 bclk with minimal vtt/qpi, like 1.35 (I got one with decent limit, but not the best). Then to do 217 bclk, I need 1.64qpi. I have a soft wall at 215 and a hard wall at 217, the sharp cut off is amazing. But it is pointless for me to try to get above 215 bclk for anything other than benching.

You may have your first wall at 189. You might want to try raising qpi/vtt even higher...just for curiosity sake...but probably not going to go over 189 for 24/7 with your chip. But I would try at least 1.45 to 1.5v qpi/vtt once just to see if it will even boot at all, and raise qpi pll to 1.16 or so as well, it is necessary as well for me to go from 215 to 217.

Others have had the same problem, sold their chip, then got lucky on next purchase and OCed past 4, past 200 bclk, no problem with low qpi/vtt.

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Thanks a lot for your help on this.

I'm within my 7 days purchase from the egg, maybe I return and try for another one or just keep this one at 189x20 turbo on rock solid.

Encoding a blu-ray to x264 cut my times in half from my q6600 at 3.7. I went from 3hrs 35 minutes to 1hr 30 minutes total time. Is the difference in real world applications a lot from 189x20 to 200x20 ?

It is 5% diff OC... so not that much.

4600mhz done on air..
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=495579
And you ReverendMaynard dont bather...

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Originally Posted by rge

It is 5% diff OC... so not that much.

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Ok not worth sending back. I will keep and enjoy my new speeds.

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Originally Posted by chefnr1

4600mhz done on air..
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=495579
And you ReverendMaynard dont bather...

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Nice Chef, TS spirit :)

What bios are u using now ? And have u fixed so u can run 3x mems in white slots ?

I'm ditching my ASUS P6T Deluxe oc palm edition for the giga extreme...NEWEGG has an open box for $225 but these are the returned problem ones correct? I will prob just buy a brand new one.

My board should be here tomorrow, I'm excited :D It's been a long time since I had a chance to build a new system. I'm looking forward to the challenge of learning how to OC a whole new architecture. The only down side is that I don't have a CPU block for 1366 yet, so I am going to be stuck on the stock fan for a few days while I puzzle through my choices.

Oh, a search came up with nothing, so: Anyone tried Linux on this board? If so, does everything work?

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Originally Posted by STi489

I'm ditching my ASUS P6T Deluxe oc palm edition for the giga extreme...NEWEGG has an open box for $225 but these are the returned problem ones correct? I will prob just buy a brand new one.

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Hehe... you just get ready to see huge vdroops with Gigabyte mobo's :P

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Originally Posted by kpablo

Hehe... you just get ready to see huge vdroops with Gigabyte mobo's :P

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you get huge vdroops? Mine drops from 1.375 to 1.36v...how in the eff is that huge? lol.

Well... currently i have set 1.3v in Bios, cpu-z shows 1.280v idle and 1.264v in full... 0.02v diff in idle and 0.036v in full... tell me if this is not some considerable number...

Nothing fancy here. Tried to run my memory in 1800mhz with standard timings, and it´s seem to work well, atleast for Superpi :)

Vcore: 1.3250 in bios " Showing 1.28 in Cpuz "
uncore: 20
Qpi/Vtt: 1,51
PLL : 1.86
Dram: 1.66

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6...0x20rr1.th.jpg

Just posting some results...

I have a ATI X2 in the same Wc loop, that is why the high temps.

Bios F5e. 1.216 vcore 3800 mhz :D

* I can not get easytune to work in Vista64....:shrug:

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