ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

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10-27-2006, 11:47 PM
Falkentyne

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Originally Posted by Pjoeloe

because this pics are nice, and the info is too. Every upgrade is a good upgrade

Who cares?
Don't crap others' threads with off topic posts.
Please follow forum rules so this place keeps at least a semblance of order?

Or maybe I'll crap your thread about your computer question with how to win at UT2004 or something.....
10-28-2006, 12:46 AM
Mykou

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Originally Posted by Sparx

Got ya, thanks.
Been looking at coolers, the Big Typhoon is OK but. Trying to determine if the Scythe Ninja Plus rev. b or the Thermalright Ultra 120 is best.

sparx

TR ultra 120 works fine for me .Managed to put 2 noiseblockers SX2@1700 RPM push/pull

lawrywild ( thanks for your reply :) ) said we can keep stock cooler for mofsets ,but if I were you I 'd replace the NB's one .

cooler NB , higher fsb

temps TAT is 37° idle ( l decrease vcore to 1.43 bios and stable running games like gothic 3 , dark messiah ,titan quest ,fear or Flight sim X - orthos large fft needs 1.47 to be stable +3hours )

just make sure your IHS has good contact with your rad ( many people had to lap their chip cos concave )
10-28-2006, 06:00 AM
Sparx

This might be OT but I want to test my RAM to see if it may be holding me back. The G.Skill 4600 is rated to hit 800, now my overclock seems to be stalled at 387 or so with 1.5375 vcore. I need to know if it is the CPU or the RAM.

To test the RAM is it best to drop the multiplier down to 7 and jack the FSB up past 400 and run Memorytest86 or Othos?

Appreciate your assistance on this one.
sparx
10-28-2006, 06:28 AM
Pol1977

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Originally Posted by davexl

Done it many times, and had no difference. I suggest as you are the one trying to convince the world Orthos is useless, then perhaps you could show us screen grabs and settings of where and when this occurs, and if it is repeatable.

Just saying so isn't good enough :nono:

You sure it is not something like running different types of tests in Prime and not Orthos? You can have for example a OC/mem problem that passes small FFTs always, but fails on large, or vice versa...

I started some tests to take screenshots of what I was claiming... Turns out I had flashed to 1503 BIOS without clearing the CMOS afterwards... Now I'm runnig 400MHz FSB on my E6400 (400x8=3200) and 800Mhz on the RAM all on stock voltage except the MHC which I have to up to 1.65V or my system locks up from time to time.

So, because of the erratic behaviour my system showed due to not clearing the CMOS it is obvious that my observations were mistaken. I'll try Orthos again as it is a lot more convenient and see what I get now...

400MHz fsb on stock voltage... mmm, maybe I should try for more :P

Sorry if I inconvenienced any of you guys :)
10-28-2006, 06:33 AM
Pol1977

As everyone must have noticed, the stock nothbridge cooler runs really hot... I stuck a thermometer between its fins and I got over 70C!!! Is there a better but still QUIET solution that someone has tried? Is it easy to remove the stock NB cooler with the heatpipe connenting it to the cooler on the mosfets? Is there any significant gain?
10-28-2006, 07:57 AM
Sparx

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Originally Posted by Pol1977

As everyone must have noticed, the stock nothbridge cooler runs really hot... I stuck a thermometer between its fins and I got over 70C!!! Is there a better but still QUIET solution that someone has tried? Is it easy to remove the stock NB cooler with the heatpipe connenting it to the cooler on the mosfets? Is there any significant gain?

I put a small 40 mm (but somewhat noisy) Radio Shack fan on top of the HS after removing the tin foil ASUS cap. I stuck it on with hot glue applied to each corner of the fan, I have no concern about it falling off. I did not remove the factory TIM, since the HS got so warm I have to conclude that it is making good contact and drawing the heat off the chip. I do need to purchase a fan that produces less noise however.

I am using 1.65 MCH volts.

I have not taken a temp reading with a probe but I can later and post result here.

Yes that MCH does get mighty hot. :eek:
sparx
10-28-2006, 08:03 AM
cadaveca

I had replaced the northbridge-mosfet cooler, and foudn I wasn't stable anymore. After inspecting the heatsinks, making sure they were hot, I tried again. No difference. Removed the cooler, only to find that it was NOT MAKING CONTACT AT ALL with the northbridge, but was still very hot to the touch. Something to keep in mind.
10-28-2006, 08:12 AM
Pol1977

Is there anyone who replaced the stock northbridge heatsink with something quiet, preferably passive, and got better results? Or even replaced the stock thermal paste on it with something better like AS5?
10-28-2006, 08:35 AM
triggerc

the first thing i did when i got the board was AS5 the NB and SB, but i just bought a swiftech mcx159-cu, and i'll see if this will get me past 380mzh.
10-28-2006, 08:37 AM
pee4

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Originally Posted by TWY

I'm thinking of upgrading from my SI-120 (which is now used on my C2D rig), to the U-120. However, I do note that the PWM and NB (especially) will get much reduced airflow comparatively. I'm running fanless atm for my NB because I'm using the SI-120, but I'm not sure if that's workable with the U-120? I won't be using a FFB fan and I noticed that the fan is slightly bigger than the U-120 size, so by right some air will 'radiate' outwards from the fan and still cool the surrounding? :confused:

I'm using a SI-120. I reversed the fan and cut a hole in the side of my case (put a 120mm fan grill over the hole) and made up a small plastic duct to duct the hot air from the cpu straight outside of my case. I put a small fan on the northbridge.
10-28-2006, 08:37 AM
lawrywild

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Originally Posted by Pol1977

Is there anyone who replaced the stock northbridge heatsink with something quiet, preferably passive, and got better results? Or even replaced the stock thermal paste on it with something better like AS5?

yeh fanless Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II Lapped. Gained about 20mhz max fsb :cool:
10-28-2006, 09:14 AM
Sparx

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

I had replaced the northbridge-mosfet cooler, and foudn I wasn't stable anymore. After inspecting the heatsinks, making sure they were hot, I tried again. No difference. Removed the cooler, only to find that it was NOT MAKING CONTACT AT ALL with the northbridge, but was still very hot to the touch. Something to keep in mind.

Was it the factory installed cooler or your replacement that was not making contact?

sparx
10-28-2006, 09:16 AM
Sparx

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Originally Posted by lawrywild

yeh fanless Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II Lapped. Gained about 20mhz max fsb :cool:

Is this a liquid cooler?
10-28-2006, 09:42 AM
lawrywild

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Originally Posted by Sparx

Is this a liquid cooler?

:stick: no..
10-28-2006, 10:52 AM
JoeBar

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Originally Posted by lawrywild

:stick: no..

Thank God... :p:
10-28-2006, 12:41 PM
Sparx

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Originally Posted by lawrywild

:stick: no..

Ok - I guess my Google gave me the wrong item.
10-28-2006, 01:49 PM
triggerc

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Originally Posted by lawrywild

yeh fanless Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II Lapped. Gained about 20mhz max fsb :cool:

doesn't the extreme spirit II have a 40mm led fan on it? or did you take it off. I went with the mcx159-cu cus it has a slightly stronger fan, 18db, not bad for me considering both fans on my tower112 are 80mm 73cfm fans, which are really loud.
10-28-2006, 02:34 PM
cadaveca

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Originally Posted by Sparx

Was it the factory installed cooler or your replacement that was not making contact?

sparx

I was changing the paste onthe stock cooler when i did it. :slapass: NO CONTACT. thermalpaste didn't even touch the heatsink.:slap:
10-28-2006, 02:55 PM
Sparx

I am running Core Temp 0.93 and while testing with Orthos my temps are 66C.
In Bios my temps after testing were 33c, but of course the test was stopped for some time. Is Core Temp know to be accurate. My ambient is 80F today.

What is the "T junction" temperation reporting on in Core Temp?

sparx
10-28-2006, 03:32 PM
JumpingJack

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Originally Posted by Sparx

I am running Core Temp 0.93 and while testing with Orthos my temps are 66C.
In Bios my temps after testing were 33c, but of course the test was stopped for some time. Is Core Temp know to be accurate. My ambient is 80F today.

What is the "T junction" temperation reporting on in Core Temp?

sparx

Overclockers.com posted a 2 page article by the Core Temp author,
http://www.overclockers.com/articles1378/

Informative.

jack
10-28-2006, 03:35 PM
bigtroutz

"Tjunction (or TjunctionMax): This value stands for the maximum temperature at the junction between the processor die and the PCB it sits on, this is usually much higher than the TCaseMax value. "
ex http://www.overclockers.com/articles1378/index02.asp

"TCaseMax: This value stands for the maximum temperature at the dead-center at the top of the processor core or the IHS which will ensure 100% stability and safety."

The authors article states that coretemp is more accurate on intel which calibrates the measurements. Read the article tho.

3 minutes heh
10-28-2006, 03:37 PM
Mr Footlong

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Originally Posted by lawrywild

yeh fanless Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II Lapped. Gained about 20mhz max fsb :cool:

I ordered a Thermalright HR-05 after my EK chipset waterblock decided to crack it's top and came within a few seconds of leaking big time and blowing my system to smithereens lol (Not a dodgy product, just me doing things up "Man Tight©". Luckily I heard the top crack and thought arse, just catching it in time and powering down.

That chipset cooler is a fair bit bigger than the Thermaltake one and I am curious as to which is better. Has anyone been using one of the HR05's on here for a while and how do you find it? It hasn't arrived yet so I haven't been able to play :(.
10-28-2006, 04:00 PM
Sparx

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtroutz

"Tjunction (or TjunctionMax): This value stands for the maximum temperature at the junction between the processor die and the PCB it sits on, this is usually much higher than the TCaseMax value. "
ex http://www.overclockers.com/articles1378/index02.asp

"TCaseMax: This value stands for the maximum temperature at the dead-center at the top of the processor core or the IHS which will ensure 100% stability and safety."

The authors article states that coretemp is more accurate on intel which calibrates the measurements. Read the article tho.

3 minutes heh

Thanks, the Tjunction on mine is 85C.
i am just wondering if 66c is ok for core temps, this is my first Intel build ever so I am not up on everything yet.
sparx
10-28-2006, 04:09 PM
lawrywild

Quote:

Originally Posted by triggerc

doesn't the extreme spirit II have a 40mm led fan on it? or did you take it off. I went with the mcx159-cu cus it has a slightly stronger fan, 18db, not bad for me considering both fans on my tower112 are 80mm 73cfm fans, which are really loud.

Yeh, took the fan and fan casing off ofcourse :)

HR-05 is better but MUCH bigger and heavier..
10-28-2006, 06:37 PM
Jungle+=

Here is one oddity that I haven't seen discussed in this thread....

I have been having issues getting a sharp image with my new video card and did some digging .I came across this error in system information for the 82801G (ICH7 Family) SMBus Controller-27DA :
"Input/Output Range 0400 - 041F used by:Motherboard resources"
As seen in picture below ...
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6...onflicthm6.jpg

I read in the ABXzone forums http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1196416that a SMBus 2,0 driver update would fix it however Intel has no such driver for download ..Any clues as to how to fix this ? I have a feeling that this may be causing some of my video quality issues as well .

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