Yes, vcore is quite high, but that's how this little chip likes it...this thing belongs in a server; high temps don't bother it. I think its a rebadged xeon chip :p: I'll enable C1E and EIST so the chip can relax at idle.
My G.Skills seem to be maxed out @ 1158Mhz; I don't want to go above 2.20v, even with a 80mm fan blowing on them.
Screenies:
Thanks grnfinger, I'm trying this as we speak. I had the skew only at 250 so that might definitely make a difference. When you say 2.1 volts, does this include the correction for the Rampage's overvolting or should I reach 2.1v when checking under Everest?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
What about settings like DRAM static read control, AI clock twister and the transaction booster (PL)? Right now i have them on disable, lighter and set to 11, but am not sure if this is the right way forward?
thanks again for your help! :)
EDIT: system still keeps crashing, also using bios versions 0308, 0401 and 0408. Even using the official P5E Deluxe bios 0501 and 0502 does not result in a stable system, although the memory is clearly listed on Asus' QVL for this board... I've tried voltages ranging from 2.08v to 2.22v in the bios, and I also tried tRFC at 60 but unfortunately all to no avail.
Does anybody have any ideas what else I could try?
I've been trying to get 4.0GHz stable for some time now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I didnt pump the volts you did in to my chip tho. You think 1.45 is a safe 24/ amount?
best I did was 1.5 hour run at 1.40 volts b4 1 core crapped out. Not sure if the GSkills will run at 1132 anyways
I think this chip could do 1.60v 24/7. It just needs the volts. I can tell it will go higher because it'll prime at higher temps than in the ss. Also, my ambient temps haven't been the greatest. If I could get 60f in here, I could feed it more volts and maybe loosen up rams a bit, it's currently doing 1158Mhz @ PL7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
About your 1.45v 24/7 question, I think if you're already doing 1.40v, the extra .05v isn't going to do any harm. These quads are less voltage sensitive than the duals, it seems. I think plls are what you should look for. I never touch the plls (1.50v) when I'm overclocking 45nm chips. Also, fsbt is reasonable enough, and I've run way higher fsbt volts in the past without breaking anything.
I was in the MIIF thread and read a lot of unhappy posts; seems the P5Q Deluxe is doing better than the ROG board. :shakes:
Try going back to RF 0308 bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by les_paulde
I have a suspicion your cpu could be the culprit. This memory should do that frequency without sweat.
You're so close to 1.60v @ only 1.38Ghz? I also think your fsbt is too much, at only 415 fsb. set it at 1.36v (should be even lower). Disable dram static read control, and set clock twister to auto. set ram to 1.94v (2.00v real) in bios; not any higher until you're certain ram volts are your problem; these sticks are voltage sensitive. Set pll to 1.60v real. manually set PL to 6, if you fail, 7. Goodluck.
Don't forget to advance clock skews to 300 as have been suggested.
Can anyone tell me what is the highest temp for a Q6600 that is safe? Would 70 celcius be too high. I am getting 60 celcius with 3.6ghz and would like to try and push a bit more but I dont want the CPU to get too hot.
I am a little disapointed with teh board , I expected alittle more from such a hefty $$ board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I have a Rampage comming this week if it performs better than the P45 the MIIF is gone to ebay. Seems Asus has dropped the ball on bios support. A board half in price should not be beating the ROG line.
The board is stable and runs cool, has alot of bios options and looks very sweet. To bad they spent more time with eye candy than engineering :shakes:
The new ROG boards have a lot of potential, but it seems like they're a bit fussy. My RE is very fussy about RAM so far, though I'm really only starting to play with the bios. The fact that I'm back on air cooling temporarily doesn't help either, I'm sure.
I'll be eagerly awaiting your verdict because I can't decided between the Rampage or the MIIF...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
The 16 Phase CPU Power sounds nice, but does it really offer anything over the Maximus/Rampage...? I'm hoping a well run X48 would overclock as well as a P45...
Thanks for the suggestions! I had a go at trying out different settings yesterday, but still didn't achieve a stable system at 1066mhz. I changed back to RF0308, and setting the skew at 300 definitely helped the stability, but the Vram at 1.94v would result in my pc not booting up. I think I found a sweet spot at 2.04v in the BIOS, which results in 2.08v in Everest. This will let me run prime blend for hours without fail, but simultaneously running memtest will result in errors after about an hour. So obviously I was still not happy with these results, (although definitely happier thanks to both your suggestions Zucker2k and Grnfinger! :yepp:) so I decided to run a DOS memtest while I was catching up on some sleep at night. This morning, it turns out that 33 errors were generated, but all on just one of the two sticks. I dunno if this is hard proof, but i'm suspecting one of the modules is broken, and I therefore took it out and am currently running another memtest on the supposedly good module, hoping that when I get back from work it will have no errors and I can safely assume one of the modules is broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
If so, I will post my final stable results after the RMA drag has been completed... Luckily I kept my older Ballistix Tracers which I can use for now, and in the mean time I will have a go at implementing those voltage changes you suggested Zucker2k! :)
cheers!
EDIT: one of the 2 modules was indeed broken, so I returned the package to the shop, hopefully the exchange won't take too long but the single, good-working stick worked flawlessly at 1066mhz, so I know that once I receive the new RAM, this should make my quad fly like anything! :)
Personally I like to keep my Q6600 around 65C, just out of longevity concerns. Theoretically, you could run it hotter than this, as long as you're below Tjmax. If u really wanna know how far you can push it, try out RealTemp, which will tell you your distance to TJmax- as long as this is at least 20 degrees C, I think its safe to assume your CPU won't melt down.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve30x
Also, I'd say that 70C at full Prime95 small ffts is actually still alright, even under my 65C rule, as normal use (even while gaming) will never ever be able to fully load your cpu as prime95 is...
God damn, feeling pretty poo. I need more RAM. (my photo res's are so high they're crashing my PC hen I flick through them lol)
So anyone want to recomend me some DDR2 4GB min - to be overclocking a QX9650 4GHz+
Currently using Adata Extrem 1200's which I had running as high as 1400mhz :D
~Bex
Please excuse the double post! But on a side note - played qith my QX9650 a little... Results speak for them selves - 1st time right off the bat with a 266 strap :D
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...04GHz-128v.jpg
Adata Extreme 1200 running @ 1203MHz :)
Obviously I doubt it's prime stable but who knows. So far runs fine. Think I need to tweak the NB voltages though... Will tweak it in the morning... My first quadcore so should be fun learning new voltages :)
~Bex
Curious... using 1201 BIOS and wondered since its listed only as BETA within ASUS's download section if any other version may have a better track record? Or possibly do the Rampage Conversion? Thoughts?
I really liked the Rampage conversion and the extra options and bandwidth I was able to squeeze out of my RAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaXXimus
Well that sounds like a good deal, appreciate the reply... now of course I know one persons experience is always going to differ from another when dealing with this kind of hardware, so... anyone else care to share their personal experience, so I can narrow down what Im going to do?
What RAM have you got? CPU? That would be helpful as maybe those with similar hardware could give you an idea of what to expect.
QX9650 and Dominator 1066 2X2Gig.
Then I can definitely say that I had the same setup and it worked well.
Here's an old Everest benchmark Performance Level 6 on the Corsairs with a QX9650
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...421FSB8GB2.png
PMed ya zlojack...
Conversion is worth the 3 mins of your time.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaXXimus
It will make the Maximus fly, it yeilds better FSB and lower volts.
I RMA'd my board to Asus with Rampage bios flashed and they sent me a new board so warranty is not an issue.
I would recommend it to anyone with a X38 Maximus.
Very nice... thanks for the feedback and will be my #1 priority when I get up tomorrow to give it a go. Will post back my experience. BTW, I was recommended to use the 0308 BIOS... thoughts on that? I always liek to get more then one opinion.
308 is the best for bandwidthQuote:
Originally Posted by MaXXimus
unless you need E0 support then I would recommend it otherwise 407 is the best to date.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
410 is pretty good here.
Yeah I think I'm going to flahs back from 407 to 308 now that I have my quad. Board's getting pimped out in the next few weeks so hopefully I can get this baby was some flying OC's but I really need to get my hands on some bigger RAM :(
~Bex
My Rampage arrived yesterday.......DOA!
That's gotta suck; pulled battery and reset bios?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
No will try the suggestions and see if that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
had the whole afternoon set aside for tweaking and testing, now what will I do:shrug:
That actually sucks :(
I really wanna get my MF out and rip the cooler off it but I can't until the rest of my stuff arrives because I need my PC for clan practice and the guest PC isn't up to it :(
~Bex
Ok found time to do the Rampage conversion using RF0308 and all went fine. Problem is that even with all stock settings I got a BSOD within 30 seconds of getting into COD4, the only changes I made within the BIOS were for memory which were exact as within the default bios. I dont know what the deal is here... bum board? bum cpu? I reverted back to the Formula and tinkered a little with the multi and fsb and damned if I can get a stable 3.8 or 4.0 which is suppose to be so easy.
Sorry to be dumb, but which RAM is it that this board doesn't like. I know it's fussy with the Crucial - is it just the Ballistix? Or is there any others that I should be aware off - I don't recall off the top of my head there being any others that cause an immediate problem...
~Bex
I've benched on this board with an assortment of D9GMH memory; OCZ, Crucial, & Teamgroup with no problems. I can't speak on the stuff that's out now.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCG_Bex
Grrrrrrr... I did 12*333 and upped my vcore to 1.375 and this POS wont even post, I dont understand.
I had a similar problem with RF0308 and my ballistix tracers pc8500, I could just not for the life of me get them to run stable on this bios. Tried skew, relaxed performance level, tRFC, etc, but nothing would stop the BSODs and crashes. On my P5E deluxe they were rocksolid with all the settings on auto, and only after I flashed 0401 did the ram become stable again. Perhaps this could be an issue your dealing with as well? What memory are you running?Quote:
Originally Posted by MaXXimus
Dominator PC8500... think I should try the 0401? Im not quite sure what to do other then be happy with all stock or toss it out the window.
List your hardware.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaXXimus
I have 3 kits of ram and they all play nice on the Maximus. I'm running 407 for E0 support otherwise I would use 308.
Also it dosent hurt to update to the latest chipset drivers.
If your running Raid then the latest Matrix Storage manager is also a benifit.
I found on my conversion that a clean OS install was in order, my machine has some slight issues after the conversion and a re install of Vista was the remedy.
the reason i discovered this was that I noticed the difference between the bioses by the stability, and when i checked the different timings using memset, I saw the tREF values were different between the two, and when I set the tREF to 3120 (the one from 0401) using memset and the 0308 bios, it suddenly became stable. I dont know if this was the only thing that made it stable but might be worth a shot i guess.
Also, what about your NB voltage?
Not sure exactly what hardware ya want but here is a complete list...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Mother Board - ASUS MAXIMUS FORMULA LGA 775 Intel X38
Processor - Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 Yorkfield 3.0GHz LGA 775 130W Quad-Core
Case - (Self Modified) Lian Li 343B
PSU - Tagan BZ Series 1300W Modular
Memory - (2*2Gig) 4 Gig Corsair Dominator PC8500 DDR2 1066
Hard Drives 4x (2T) Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB
Video Cards - VisionTek Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB
Mouse - Logitech G5 Laser
Mouse Surface - Cyber Sniper Tracer
Keyboard - Saitek Eclipse II
Burners - 2x ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
Card Reader - SUPER TALENT All-in-one USB 2.0 4 Slot
Floppy Drive - SONY Black 1.44MB 3.5"
OS - Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit
Speakers - Logitech THX Z-5300e 280 Watts RMS 5.1
Sound Card - Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty Pro
Headset W/Mic - Sound Blaster Fatal1ty Pro
CPU Cooler - Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme
Cam - Logitech QuickCam AF
Monitor - Gateway HD 22" WS
No RAID installed, I dual boot with XP 32bit and Vista 64bit and its a fresh install of not more then 1 week, also all drivers such as Chipset are latest version.
I never touched my NB volts when I did the 0308, all I did was the conversion... went into bios and only set my memory to 1066 2N 5-5-5-15 and upped the dram volts to the recommended 2.10 volts and that was it. I booted fine and was messing around a bit talking to some buds on Ventrillo and then started up my COD4 and BSOD... got ticked and converted back to the Formula bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by les_paulde
Seriously wondering if it the board, because my first Formula I had some help to OC and no issues but my system wasnt in a case yet because the case was out of stock... when it finally came in I had some issues seating my video cards and like a noobstick used a screwdriver to to try and pry it into place and mesed up soem trace... I purchased this mobo then and it just doesnt seem to want to do anything I attempt.
This is a stable setting for Q9550 Corsair Dominators PC8500 Ver 1.2
Using bios 308,
But maybe you should start with the prying on your mobo with a screwdriver first next time.
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 450
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level [7]
Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled
CPU Voltage : whatever your cpu needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.35
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.65X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
Do you guys have a stable setting I could print off for my Maximus SE, that would pritty much garentee my Q6600 booting after the Rampage 308 conversion? It dosen't have to be my 3.8GHz, just good enouigh to re-install my OS and boot. I could fine tune later...
I am going to 380, and I can't afford to not be able to boot up and ask for help if need be...
I am using the Gskills ram that allot of us Maximus boy's are running. :)
Just use my template above and change teh multi to 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Talonman
run 8x450 or 425 and your pretty much safe to boot/install.
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to get the max stable OC out of my G0 Q6600, but am running into a somewhat strange phenomenon. Currently, I'm 8+ hrs small FFT stable at 3770Mhz, with the following settings:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 419
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1046
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: AUTO
CAS# Latency : AUTO
RAS# to CAS# Delay : AUTO
RAS# Precharge : AUTO
RAS# ActivateTime : AUTO
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to PRE Delay : AUTO
Read to PRE Delay : AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.58v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.14
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.42
South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REFF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Even though my Vcore is quite high, the core temps do not exceed 65C when fully priming, thanks to the H2O system i'm using. The strange thing is that 419Mhz fsb is fully stable, whereas 420mhz tends to crash my PC after about 10-15 mins when priming. It's not like 1 core craps out, no, the whole computer reboots. I've tried upping the PLL, VTT and Vcore voltages a little more, but to no avail, and I've even added a fan to the motherboard's heatpipe assembly, so I doubt it is a temperature issue. Also, my RAM is now fully memtest86+ stable, so I can be pretty sure it's not my RAM. Am I just at the limit of my Q6600 or is there something i'm forgetting? I've read people using the GTL reference setting, but I've not been able to find a description of how to successfully use this setting during overclocking. Anyone has any suggestions, I would really like to make this a solid 3,8Ghz overclock and it just seems weird that 1 extra mhz can make the whole system completely unstable, i would have maybe expected a core crapping out during priming but not a full-on crash... :p:
Thanks for any input!
Grnfinger, where did you get your Blue Edition Q9550? I want some, it has a 9x multi. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
Only Rampage BIOS I could use that was stable at stock is 0410 which is what I am running now. Still trying to get 3.8 stable with not much luck so if anyone can look over my settings and tell me where to go next:
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.5
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : AUTO
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting :
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Have you ruled out your ram as the problem yet? ie. ran a memtest86+ for a night? Otherwise maybe try some suggestions in bold, but for the VTT perhaps you might wanna read this article about killing your chip with too high a voltage, especially VTT: http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=428. Also keep in mind this board likes to overvolt to some extend, you can watch this under 'hardware monitor' in the bios.
Also, maybe only enabling loadline calibration is needed as your Vcore drops under load otherwise, perhaps causing your problems?
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.5
FSB Frequency : 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge : AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1066
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime :15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time : AUTO
Write Recovery Time : AUTO
Read to Precharge Time : AUTO
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (S) : AUTO
Read to Read Delay (D) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (S) : AUTO
Write to Write Delay (D) : AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.375
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50 (I read somewhere not to go over 1.6 with 45nm and 1.7 with 65nm, please correct me if I'm wrong)
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
DRAM Voltage : 2.10
FSB Termination Voltage : Read the posted link
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED :
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Good luck!
Has that VTT theory ever been corroborated?
No, there was no follow up or any investigation as to what caused their chip to die. They just made an educated guess, unfortunetely, this seems to be viewed as a fact on many forums, but no one has shown that VTT voltage is what killed their chip. This has been heavily discussed on several forums, including the Max II thread and the Q9650 thread where NapalmV5 is throwing all types of voltages at his chip and has not killed it and he is on air. However, from what I can gather he does keep the vcore voltage under 1.45v, so maybe that is what can really kill a chip. Personally, I don't understand why all of a sudden VTT voltage would start killing chips just because they are 45nm. There were no issues with any of the previous generations or chipsets with VTT over volting. It has always been the temperatures that were the issue, not the voltages when it came to overclocking. Keep your temps low and add whatever to your chip. This of course is just my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt.
Me to :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I adjusted the multi for his purpose
Good stuff so far man, thanks a heap... not out of the woods yet but for sure on the way and crossing fingers. I took 1 step at a time and tried Loadline Calibration and no go... kept that enabled and then disabled DRAM Static Read and Prime95 failed again but lasted about a minute. Core 2 is being a pain and was failing within seconds... so again I kept those settings and opted to increase vcore a notch (now 1.38125) and Prime95 is going on 10 minutes without an error... WOOT WOOT.Quote:
Originally Posted by les_paulde
Is it still typical to have to run Prime for 8+ hrs or? And also... anyone have any thoughts on the Intel Linpack versus Prime95?
Son of a bisket... Core 2 failed yet again at 17 minutes... really hate to dump more vcore into this thing for only a darned 3.8, wouldnt mind if it was for 4.0... whats the maximum safe vcore for 24/7 usage?
I think you should use both Linpack and Prime/Orthos.
I've had one or the other stable and the other one fail quite a few times.
Also, I tend to agree with utnorris about the VTT. One person kills a chip and puts forth a theory, which gets turned into a fact through rumours.
It's one chip. Who knows what killed it. It's an interesting theory, but not a proven one.
Once I get my WC back up and running on my RE, I'll be pushing my E8600 as high and as hard as it can go, so I guess we'll have another test on that. As Ivan Drago says...if he dies, he dies :D
Termination Voltage upped to 1.35 and now Im Prime95 stable for an hour so I have a couple questions:
1: Whats would you guys consider max for Term Volts?
2: Does raising this value in any way make it possible to lower the vcore?
1. Whatever makes your chip stableQuote:
Originally Posted by MaXXimus
2. Yes
Well I guess I will be tinkering tomorrow with vcore... but with settings the way they are I was actually able to pass the Linpack test, only did 5 passes but hell... all my other attempts it only passed 1 outta 5. Good stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
*bashes head* ARGH! I forgot how much 308 hates my RAM!!!
Stupid thing is being a picky git about posting @ 450FSB. It posts, it boots, it BSOD and then DET RAM. Similar for 440. Anyone got some QX settings? Tried tweaking mine again and again but no joy. Had a bash for Grnfingers but my mobo doesn't like them 1 bit - Posts, attempts to boot and black screen of nothingness!
~Bex
I posted some a while back.
450 can be tough. I ended up going with 421 x 9.5 for 4GHz on my QX9650
Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
WOW!!! :shocked::shocked: That's an awesome FSB you got there, I think you broke the world record, lol. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
Utnorris
LOL...typo.:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Utnorris
Too much wine last night :D
I obviously meant 421 :p:
maximus formula@rampage bios
modded thermalright ifx sli NB and ifx SB
http://www.pic-upload.de/thumb/01.10.08/kb6sy6.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=424850
Whats the best RF BIOS now a days?
Question... I have found my perfect settings for 3.8GHz (Prime95 stable 12+ hrs & 20 passes Linpack), been tinkering with 4.0 - 4.2 and cannot get it stable and was wondering, if I am leaving my FSB speed the same and only changing the multi from 9.5x to 10x would I also need to be upping my FSB volts or should I only be needing to up the vcore?
GJ Grn - 100mhz more and you'd be on par with my E8600! :D
My Quad's well.. I dunno.... I can do 425, and 400, and I can do 445, but it goes funny.... It sometimes goes black and then on a next power up says DET RAM. :down:
I still need to pick some new RAM.... really, REALLY need 4GB now. RAM usage was 89% today :shock:
~Bex
I need a faster kit myself, think my GSkills are maxedQuote:
Originally Posted by RCG_Bex
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/MII_4GHZ.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f.../40_gskill.png
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It's not the speeds that are the problem, it's the ammount. My rams done 1400mhz before! (I nearly died from shock as I spotted it after I booted - forgot to change the ram settings). I did spy some 4GB packs of Geil 1200 but it's pretty damn pricey... Don't think I can afford it unless I hold off until xmas or something :(
~Bex
What about the OCZ FLex XLC OCZ2FXT11504GK? They're rated for 1150Mhz at 2.1V, I dunno but it seems that these should hit 1200Mhz as well and only sell for 159EUR here in Holland. (http://www.alternate.nl/html/shop/pr...?artno=ICIELX&)Quote:
Originally Posted by RCG_Bex
Just a thought....
Nah, they're aluminum heatsinks on them as well. Apart from anything OCZ RAM doesn't usually like Asus boards...
~Bex
Get the G.Skill 8800 (2x2Gb) kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCG_Bex
I just bought the G.Skill F2-PC8500CL5D-PI 2x2GB kit and I'm hitting 1150MHz so far on 2.1v with a lowly Asus P5K-E on bios 1102 @ 5-5-5-15. Amazing ram! Absolutely amazing for the price (£90 @ Memoryc.co.uk).
Would you mind sharing your setting ?Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I'm trying to get my GSkills stable at 1130MHz and so far no luck.:shrug:
Literally just 5-5-5-15 2T then all other timings on Auto ( I found Auto best for the rest because the bios lacks the fine tuning to match the EPP Profile manually) @ 2.1v. Performance level is 6 on the P5K with 333 Strap, 5:8 I think it works out to be? vPLL and vFSB are both @ lowest, 1.5v and 1.2v respectively (my board doesn't suffer from the overvolting when on the lowest setting in the bios).
I'll be pushing them more when I get my new Rampage Formula next week! :D
EDIT: I just saw from your pic that you're not running the "PI" series ram, maybe that's the difference?
Hmmm perhaps that could be the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I have yet to really tweak them , just ran Memtest Pro with everything maxed and 47 errors.
So I might be better running 1:1 but PL 10 is not to attractive to me.
Which board is this, Grn?
MIIFQuote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
My 2x1GB Corsairs will do 1225MHz easy so perhaps there is need to travel tomorrow and spend some more money at CC
Well, I'm not sure about the MIIF, but I tried G.Skill, Mushkin and OCZ (various models/combos) on my MF and those sticks were the best ones for me. I had over 1100 with 8GB, but I don't know exactly what the settings were.
Here's one of 4GB at 1147MHz
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...gtRD743GHz.png
Thanks JackQuote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
Think I might invest in some Dominators this weekend, then I can have a ram sale Monday:ROTF:
Ok, QX9650 booted @ 4.35GHz but RAM was ~1330MHz with voltage set to 2.26 @ 5-6-6-18 :shock:
:lol: Obviously it didn't last long (long enough to msn someone and then restart the pc myself)- could probably get it stable if I spend some time on it. Back to 4.2GHz with ram @ 1297MHz 5-5-5-18 2.4 for now :)
~Bex
Well, yesterday I received my RMA'd kit of the G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK (not bad, I must say, within a week :)) so I obviously had to have a go at getting these to run at the same speed as my Ballistix Tracers, namely 1117Mhz..
Started off at 1.94v in the bios with the previously suggested settings (skew, etc.), resulting in a stable rig in memtest at 1066Mhz. Happy as I was that these now finally do run at their rated speed, my initial excitement quickly faded as I noticed that I could not run the sticks any higher than this, despite people's great experience with them here in the forum. I've tried different skew settings, changed Trfc to 55 and even tried with the CPU running at stock. Also upping the voltage to 2.12v real did not allow me to reach any higher speeds, although the errors in memtest did seem to decrease upon increasing the Dram voltage. But I'm a bit weary with upping the voltage on these puppies, how high have people gone before without destroying the sticks?
Also, is there any other setting I could try to get these sticks to run faster, even 1080/1090Mhz I'd be happy with as my Everest benchmark is non too exciting right now, even though I'm on the 0308 Formula bios:
http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/q...3771mhz4Gb.jpg
Thanks again for any ideas! :up:
They should do 1080 very easy with settingsQuote:
Originally Posted by les_paulde
Dram static enabled
Clock twister strong
PL 7
advance clock skew 300ps both channels.
TRFC to 55
and set 2.12 in bios if it passes then start lowering dram volts.
your NB volts will play a part 1.47 to start and adjust up from there.
I need 1.51 NB volts for stability.
Mine do 1103MHZ currently and will boot and bench at 1130MHz, trying to get them stable now with some tweaking.
Grn, I did some tests on my G.Skill and they Prime Blending and Memtest86+ stable with everything on Auto Timings PL6 1130MHz @ 2.1v. I know it's not the done thing here but have you tried on Auto?
Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
No but I'm willing to try anything right now.
3 weeks trying to get 4.0 stable, and what did it was setting GTL's to auto:yepp:
So maybe auto ram is worth a shot. Then use Everest to set the values manually.
Took the afternoon off work today seems I'm feeling alittle sick:ROTF:
so looks like I have a few hours to tinker with the ram.:up:
Well I hit 4.35GHz on the QX9650 last night - RAM @ 1320MHz :rofl: 5-6-6-18 @ 2.26v :P
Went for 4.4GHz but not stable enough for a screenshot :(
My RAM hates using the lowest settings unless it's >1100mhz... really wierd...
I think I'm hitting a wall though because I kinda get into windows but then BSOD almost immediately. Not sure what to raise next tbh :(
~Bex
try upping NB volts and PLL
Ok - will do tonight when I get home :)
How much NB voltage is too much?
~Bex
I would not go above 1.57 or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCG_Bex
Temps will be more important tho.
Try to keep the NB under 47-50 full load.
On a side note my Mushkins are 30% passes Memtest Pro, running 1130MHz.
Had to relax the timing some but seem to be stable
5-5-5-15-5-65-6-5
10-4-5-6-6-5-6
16-6-1-6-6
let's me keep PL 7 and Twister to stronger and Dram Static is Enabled.
Very nice there, Grn. How are the G.Skill playing now?
Those timings don't look that bad.
How much did you lose in latency?
Trying my Mushkin kit with these timings and currently passing.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
Once I get them stable I'll swap out for the GSkill and test them.
Latency stayed about the same my major hit was Read time, down about 700MB/s Copy and Write are still very good, 9500+ and 9900+Quote:
Originally Posted by zlojack
So still worth all this hassle......I hope
cranked this off last night
http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ghzprime-3.jpg
and now im retuning for better memory performance :rofl:
already passed 8 rounds of memtest86 and priming this off now.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...cachemem-4.png
Not as impressive as yours Zen, but I have been struggling with 4.0GHz 1130 MHz stability for a little while now
well......
:bounces:
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...130_stable.jpg
come play on the 400 strap. pl6 is nice ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Grnfinger
your mushkins can do it if mine can :up:
My G.Skill 1066s @ 1140 PL7, @ WinMemtest (supposedly better than Memtest86.
I use Memetest Pro I like it and it seems to be acurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Havent tried my G.Skills at 1132MHz with the revised relax timings yet, going to today.
I can't wait until my new Rampage arrives. It's going to be good to get back into the overclocking. Especially with the recent cold weather! :D
The G.Skill have breathed new life into this old P5K-E so hopefully they'll do the same for the Rampage! 475MHz 1:1 was never possible with my old D9 "Fatbody" ram on this P5K-E!
Hi, I'm insanely new at overclocking with the Maximus Formula. I was wondering if anybody has the same hardware as I do, since I really want to get a 4ghz stable on my proc.
Here's my specs:
Intel Q9550 C1 stepping
Asus Maximus Formula
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2x1GB ddr2 800mhz
CPU and NB is watercooled.
SB is passively cooled.
If you need any other info, please don't hesitate to ask, I really need help. I don't get how the settings on the Extreme Tweaker work :| thanks guys!
Final 4.0GHz 24/7
Seems my kit of G.Skills cant handle 1132MHz so have to settle on the Mushkins for now till I can afford a kit of G.SKILL F2-9600CL5D-4GBPI
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...table_1130.jpg
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...r/bench_40.jpg
Grn, look for the 8500 PI kit, they're flying for me! Not worth the money for the 9600 kit when the lower kits clocks as well. Just my two cents.
How come you went with the G.Skill over the Mushy in the first place?
Had the GSkills first, got them from Newls1 at a decent price. Bought Mushkin much later cause they were on sale at a super price and I wanted a spare 2x2GB kit for insurance, now I'm glad I did. Going to look now at the kit you suggested.Quote:
Originally Posted by kup
I can only find 2x1GB kits of G.SKILL F2-8500CL5D-2GBPI Pi PC2-8500 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15
are these the ram Kup?