Crucial says no more 2 gig balistix will be sold.

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02-13-2006, 06:40 PM
ozzimark

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Originally Posted by MikalCarbine

That thread states they are failing on DFI, ASUS and I think MSI boards, so it can't just be the board :confused: :stick:

they could have a similar defect.. i know the ballistix do draw a pretty intense amount of power...
02-13-2006, 06:59 PM
Repoman

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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

100Mhz? Wow, those are some seriously messed up stix.....

Well, at first one would work at 250@2.6v (didn't try further) but the other with the same settings failed at 1:1 down to 140 (130HTT froze the comp). but it worked at 250MHz with 1:2 divider. So it originally crapped out somewhere between 125 and 140, since it was that bad in games but good in pi, I may have accidentally run some benchmarks at 3.2v after I requested the RMA :rolleyes: :clap: They only hit 299 anyway.. ss of 324 though

BTW to the guy with the dothan, that's amazing :slobber: Is it stable?
02-13-2006, 07:03 PM
16floz470ml

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02-13-2006, 07:12 PM
16floz470ml

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Originally Posted by EnJoY

My Ballistix have been doing 300mhz nonstop with 2.75v since day one at tight timings. No issues whatsoever. I just keep feeding them a new opty memory controller every few weeks (how fast i change cpus these days) and they stay happy haha.

I think crucial may be getting a bad rap. ;)
02-13-2006, 07:13 PM
foodfightr

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Originally Posted by xgman

They are gone from Crucials web site and they just told me that only RMA replacement supplies will be available of the 2 gig sets or 1 gig sticks..

Gone? I see them here:

http://www.crucial.com/ballistix/store/listmodule.asp
02-13-2006, 07:30 PM
Repoman

*cough* that's DDR2..
02-14-2006, 09:08 AM
douirc

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Originally Posted by douirc

Well, I've been part of the "gang" for about 6 months now, and I'm on my third set. This time I got a set of CL111QG7X 63240 BL12864Z503.16TD1. Before I stick 'em in my mobo, anyone have any suggestions on how to get them to survive longer than 2-3 months?

I plan on running 250 1:1 with auto timings and 2.8V in orange slots with 704-2β BIOS. Any suggetions on BIOS, mem voltage, slot choice or timings?

thanks!

WooHoo! 1 week stable so far :D
running 250 1:1 2.8V (default) with dual core folding 24/7.
02-14-2006, 02:46 PM
stone_cold_Jimi

What is the consensus on the failures, what's happening physically to these sticks? I have a still-good set sitting to one side while some G.Skill fills the gap, but it's a total waste - I'd rather use the Ballistix, because for now it's the better ram.

If we knew what was screwing them up, then we wouldn't do whatever it is. But nobody has a clue what we shouldn't be doing, which is why mine are sitting out. :(

Man, what a shame. Does look like it has gone for good -

http://www.anandtech.com/memory/show...px?i=2676&p=17
02-14-2006, 06:34 PM
Veritas.no

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

they could have a similar defect.. i know the ballistix do draw a pretty intense amount of power...

Are they dieing (that sounds worng) just on A64 boards, or on Intel boards as well?
02-15-2006, 07:12 AM
douirc

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Originally Posted by stone_cold_Jimi

What is the consensus on the failures, what's happening physically to these sticks? I have a still-good set sitting to one side while some G.Skill fills the gap, but it's a total waste - I'd rather use the Ballistix, because for now it's the better ram.

If we knew what was screwing them up, then we wouldn't do whatever it is. But nobody has a clue what we shouldn't be doing, which is why mine are sitting out. :(

Man, what a shame. Does look like it has gone for good -

http://www.anandtech.com/memory/show...px?i=2676&p=17

I think the general consensus is bad sticks are bad sticks, regardless how you run them. I've run two sets at stock ratings and they've gone bad on me. People have run them below stock and have had them go bad. It's not the environment the sticks are run in but poor mfg'ing (either materials or assembly or a combo of both) that's causing the problem. If ya got a pair, load 'em up. They do you no good sitting in a drawer. If they die, RMA, and keep trying until you get a set that's stable. But you should run stock settings so you know if it was you or the sticks that went bad ;)
02-15-2006, 07:48 AM
MikalCarbine

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Originally Posted by douirc

I think the general consensus is bad sticks are bad sticks, regardless how you run them. I've run two sets at stock ratings and they've gone bad on me. People have run them below stock and have had them go bad. It's not the environment the sticks are run in but poor mfg'ing (either materials or assembly or a combo of both) that's causing the problem. If ya got a pair, load 'em up. They do you no good sitting in a drawer. If they die, RMA, and keep trying until you get a set that's stable. But you should run stock settings so you know if it was you or the sticks that went bad ;)

I agree entirely. I don't think people are ready to accept that micron just made a bad batch, something might have went wrong in the fab process or what not :stick:
02-15-2006, 10:04 AM
stone_cold_Jimi

Yeh, you guys are right - I might as well use them until they break. These ones are hot ones, better dig out the 92mm Zalman again.

Edit: Wah! They're brilliant. Suddenly I got 2500 MHz CPU at stock volts, ram at 250 3-3-3-8 1T 2.6v (like, "auto" heh). Amazing. :D
02-17-2006, 08:20 PM
bobov

My first kit died after 3 months. I'm on my 3rd kit (RMA twice). The current kit can do 2.6V 280MHz @ 3-3-3-8 on my DFI expert, and seems runs cooler than pervious kit. Almost two month from RMA. Will see this kit can live longer than 3 months or not.
02-18-2006, 07:10 AM
douirc

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Originally Posted by bobov

My first kit died after 3 months. I'm on my 3rd kit (RMA twice). The current kit can do 2.6V 280MHz @ 3-3-3-8 on my DFI expert, and seems runs cooler than pervious kit. Almost two month from RMA. Will see this kit can live longer than 3 months or not.

It would be really helpful for the rest of us if you could post what you got. My current set is CL111QG7X 63240 BL12864Z503.16TD1. This way we know what's good and what dies.
02-18-2006, 08:43 AM
Hellion

Mine are V batch still alive and running almost 15 days.I hope they never die.O did last night 200loops memtest x86 test 5 at 265 mhz 2.5v.Weird is they are not benefited from higher vdimm.I use release bios on dfi expert which is weird too considering all latter perform poorly(i see most people here using 704bta with these memory sticks).
02-18-2006, 09:22 AM
bobov

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Originally Posted by douirc

It would be really helpful for the rest of us if you could post what you got. My current set is CL111QG7X 63240 BL12864Z503.16TD1. This way we know what's good and what dies.

Mine are RMAed from newegg on Dec. CL1115Y.6K 56278 BL12864Z503.16TD.

2.6V 2-2-2-5 @ 200MHz
2.6V 3-3-3-8 @ 280MHz

I won't use vdimm > 2.6v for safe.
02-18-2006, 12:27 PM
douirc

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Originally Posted by bobov

Mine are RMAed from newegg on Dec. CL1115Y.6K 56278 BL12864Z503.16TD.

2.6V 2-2-2-5 @ 200MHz
2.6V 3-3-3-8 @ 280MHz

I won't use vdimm > 2.6v for safe.

interesting...i lowered my vdimm to 2.6v and it's running 250 stable. can you post a snapshot of A64 Tweaker V0.60 beta so we can see your timings. Also, you set those timings, or just put everything on auto?
02-19-2006, 11:52 AM
bobov

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Originally Posted by douirc

interesting...i lowered my vdimm to 2.6v and it's running 250 stable. can you post a snapshot of A64 Tweaker V0.60 beta so we can see your timings. Also, you set those timings, or just put everything on auto?

I just set vdimm 2.6v, change tcl=3 trcd=3 trp=3 tras=8 trc=7, MAL=8 ns, Read Preamble = 6ns. others on Auto.

I can run my ballistix 280MHz 2.6V 3-3-3-8 1:1 superpi 32M stable on my dfi expert.

PS:// I'm using 12/07 BIOS.
02-19-2006, 11:57 AM
MikalCarbine

What tRef, Data/Drive does auto set for you with your expert?
I keep getting crashes in AOE3 with pretty loose timings

And my expert keeps undervolting the memory..
02-19-2006, 12:05 PM
bobov

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Originally Posted by MikalCarbine

What tRef, Data/Drive does auto set for you with your expert?
I keep getting crashes in AOE3 with pretty loose timings

And my expert keeps undervolting the memory..

tRef = 3072
Don't know Data/Drive values. But A64 tweaker shows the Drive Strength is weak.
02-19-2006, 12:06 PM
MikalCarbine

Everest will tell you your Data Str

tRef is 18? what about the xxxmhz x.xus value for it? or the value in BIOS ie: 3072
02-19-2006, 12:13 PM
bobov

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Originally Posted by MikalCarbine

Everest will tell you your Data Str

tRef is 18? what about the xxxmhz x.xus value for it? or the value in BIOS ie: 3072

Oh, i'm sorry. I mean trfc = 18.

tref = 3072.

no everest, so I can't help you for the data strength. sorry
02-20-2006, 11:39 AM
MikalCarbine

Question:

You set you vDimm to 2.6, but what does MBM5 read it as? Or BIOS/ITE
02-20-2006, 03:02 PM
bobov

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Originally Posted by MikalCarbine

Question:

You set you vDimm to 2.6, but what does MBM5 read it as? Or BIOS/ITE

set vdimm 2.6v in bios, mbm5/ITE read 2.51v, bios read 2.56v.
02-20-2006, 03:04 PM
MikalCarbine

At least I know it isn't just my expert... do you think it is actually undervolting or just the crappy sensors?

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