yes it's the same i dont think they do a non dlx p4p800-e
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Originally Posted by olDirdey
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yes it's the same i dont think they do a non dlx p4p800-e
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Originally Posted by olDirdey
Thank you for the Info. I used the Bios and it´s working great on P4P800-E DLXQuote:
Originally Posted by leejsmith
And I have another Info for you, Asus said only CPU´s higher than 1.5GHz are possible to use. I am using a 1.3 Dothan (no Banias) with 400FSB and it´s working great on CT-479.
This must be good for all VM owners. Isn't this possible with the jumpers as well, since they give you four combinations? The corresponding BSEL pins gives either 100, 133, 200 and what? 166 or 266? I'm guessing 266 for P4, but 166 for PM. I know I've asked this before... :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
and the vcore option!Quote:
Originally Posted by Malachia
C'mon ASUS, give us what we want!! :cord:
i have no problem with v-mods, but if is possible...why not? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by NoX
from what i heard this isn't really possible, as the vcore is generated on the adaptor, not on the actual motherboard - that's what the 12v molex feed is there for anyway....Quote:
Originally Posted by NoX
while that boot at max multi wouldn't do the "old" pm's any good (my 755 would have to do 4ghz flat out, not possible even with multistage phasechange coolers or ln2) it might work with most of the 533-type ones (given you use phasechange, even singlestage).Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
btw did you really mean ASUS or ABIT in that last sentence? i think the later, as asus is probably working on it. in another forum a user that is active here as well (borg no.1) has contacted Abit and they flat out refused to hand out any information regarding bios modding or what would be necessary to make pm's runable on an ic7-g or similiar abit boards. so maybe you as an employee of a wellknown company will have more luck with them or asus. or at least make asus implement changeable multis in the bios, as this is the most unnerving part. almost anything else can be taken care of via simple mods (like vid) or by using your parts (ddr-booster).
also i find it kinda funny that abit rejects to do this, as they used to be the overclockers brand not too long ago with their nf7 and ic7 series boards.. strange world, it is. and i don't see why they wouldn't want to adopt a pm-capability, after all they don't take away a marketshare of any of there own boards since they don't have a pm- or cm-compatible board in their lineup. hmm
i dont think they are too happy that asus beat them do it. Its also possible they really dont care because maybe they are already messing with early dual core p-m's for testing.:banana: Food for thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by sky
Is this normal on all P4P800-E? Can choose multi from 8-28 in Bios but not tested in Windows, will install new OS next day. My experimental Windows chrashes after booting with new Board and Hardware :D
I think there is no difference between retail and ES P-M CPU´s?! It´s an Engineering Sample I used.
What version of bios are you running ? the p4p800-e had multi option on the older 1007.001 but i didnt work and the current 1007.003 had it removed unless the ES chip is allowing it.
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Originally Posted by olDirdey
Can some of you overclocking with sub 200 MHz FSB try to increase the AGP-speed and see if you got higher FSB by doing that?
I am using Bios 1007.003 from P4P800-E. But I got no retail Dothan so I have to ask you if it´s normal that Multis are available. Today I will test if they are working in Windows may with Eist or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by leejsmith
They dont show for me with the 1007.003 bios so it must be your dothan.
can you put a link to your bios so i could try it to confirm.
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Originally Posted by olDirdey
Here is the Link to Asus FTP Site with 1007.003 Bios.
I wondered 2 times with the CPU. First that nothing is printed on the CPU and that´s an 1.3 Dothan with 2MB Cache. Processorfinder only knows 1.4 BGA Dothans and only Banias Cores with 1.3 GHz.
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Originally Posted by olDirdey
There is a difference the Es Pentium M's are allowed to change the multi up- and downwards the normal Pentium M's are allowed to change the multi only downwards.
This is the one i have and i dont get the multi option.
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Originally Posted by olDirdey
I picked up a 730ES, so we'll know in a couple days if it gives free choice of multi's 6x-28x on a P4C800E-Dlx with 1021BIOS. If it DOES... then the Pentium M ES is certainly the best for OC, because you can run top multi's on phase or LN2 and a lower multi for AIR, the default multi of the 730 RETAIL is 12x and will run out of steam 1:1...
I'd like to do about 14 x 250 = 3500mHz 1:1, BH5, chilly1 autocascade.
Also makes it much easier to boot at 201fsb, try THAT with a 760 with no BIOS multi options!
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i hope multi adjustment from bios will be available from asus in next bioses...
My m730 arrived today along with a 2nd ct-479.
runing at 200x12 1.5v is no problem for this chip unlike the 400fsb m725.
I have found that both cpu's max out at 2700 ish with 1.568v but the m730 can handle the high fsb very well.
with the multi at 12 i manged 227 fsb 228 and the system reset running super pi.
with timings at 2-2-2-5 memory 1:1 super pi 1m time was 28s (same as the 400fsb at 162x16)
if i dropped the multi down to 11 i could get back to the same speed of 2700 but at 11x245 memory still at 1:1 2-2-2-5 super pi 1m time 28s
one thing i have found is with the p4p800-e bios you cant change the vcore in windows using cpu msr /or crystalcpuid.
A good thing about the bios is with fsb set to 200 you have memory options of 266/320/400/500 and 533.
I might use the p4p800 1021.003 bios and vid mod the cpu socket for 1.62/1.64 vcore see how much higher i can get.
with an xp-90 cooler no matter what settings on the cpu it never went over 39C
One more review from Tom:
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050525/index.html
i use p4p800 when update bios i type
afudos /iromname.rom /n /pbnc
can't update bios
but i type:
afudos /iromname.rom /pc
it ok
i use CPUMSR with CLOCKGEN OC bus cpu --->ram dump when i change bus up or down.My ram is pc3200
can version bios haved eror becase dont manage bandwith ram
please help me
i use BANIAS 1g4
If INTEL had 1/1000 gram of brains in their heads, they'd make a Dothan/Sonoma 2M @ 800fsb, @ 2.4 and 2.6 speed grades and put it on an LGA775 architecture.Quote:
Originally Posted by jk0012
Oh yeah, I forgot... Intels 915/925 chipsets SUCK!!! Anyone tried the nF4 Intel boards??
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Lots of people think that Charlie, but Intel loves it's crappy netburst and so they gimp dothans with low FSB, low total speed (they could EASILY make 2.26 and 2.4ghz dothans) and few optimizations so their p4's can beat them. Maybe Dothan's successor will have more optimizations and a 800 bus (and unlocked lowers accessable from bios like A64's). Oh and make it 4meg cache just for the hell of it. :P
guys i need a tip
is better p4c800 or p4p800se FOR DOTHAN USE ONLY!
does the P4P800-X work ?
I'd say P4C, 875 chipset, great performer, the best mobo ever for P4? (except IC7-G ofcoruce :))Quote:
Originally Posted by Malachia
Both should serve you good for sure.