how is everyone with a KD7 or KD7-E hitting 200mhz fsb and higher stable? i tried the Pio hd mode and that didnt help. what to do. :confused:
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how is everyone with a KD7 or KD7-E hitting 200mhz fsb and higher stable? i tried the Pio hd mode and that didnt help. what to do. :confused:
taco,Quote:
Originally posted by taco
how is everyone with a KD7 or KD7-E hitting 200mhz fsb and higher stable? i tried the Pio hd mode and that didnt help. what to do. :confused:
Which board do you have? Full system specs?
What troubles are you having when you up the fsb? HD corruption? Crashes or freezes?
To be honest I'm not really doing anything special to hit 205mhz here. For me the board just seems to not mind it. I know that a lot of it has to do with having components that can handle higher bus frequencies. Even with the 1/5 divisor, the AGP and PCI bus does run a bit out of spec. Another thing is high quality memory and great cooling.
Give us some details and maybe we can help.
well i got a 2400+ week 46, its stable at 2.56 with aircooling (mcx-462+ w/ panaflo 40cfm). motherboard is a KD7R, Corsair 3500 256mb, 9700 pro, 80 gig maxtor and power supply is kingwin 450w..
it would always do a bsod then restart or id have to turn it off, the other day the hd just had enough, and decided to corrupt for real.
save me sir. :smileysex
What vcore are you using?
I'm in the same boat kinda.My hdd always fails above 214fsb even in pio4. With the 1/5 divider it shouldn't be out of spec too far i would think. My XMS 3200 lets me use fastest timing at 214fsb too.
KD7-E sounds good.... because of high voltages are allowed with this board.
I just don't see how KD7-E or KX7-333 is gonna beat KR7A. The KR7A's FSB overclocking ability is superb, with the FastCPU decode, and its reign-champ 1/2AGP, 1/4PCI divider. No other board beat this, ever, if the user special pick the components and plan out for mid 190's FSB, this board will nuke all other boards including the NF2 boards as well. Only problem is that cards like the GF4 series and especially the R9000/9500/9700 series cards go poo poo.... at those AGP/FSB speeds.
If you are planning to use the GF1, GF2, GF3 series, Kyro, R7000/7500/8500 series, the KR7A will nuke all boards out there in 3D games and 3Dmark as well as the overal performance due to exotic AGP/PCI bizarre speeds. eh eh... I thought I should mention that. :banana:
I've owned all 3 mobos this year and that is not an accurate assessment at all.
I've got news for ya:)
My KX7333R smoked my KR7A and my KD7-Raid smoked both of them....I'm now working on smoking all 3 with the NF7-S:D
And BTW, Welcome to XtremeSystems !!
Randi:D
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Originally posted by IamAnoobieCheez
KD7-E sounds good.... because of high voltages are allowed with this board.
I just don't see how KD7-E or KX7-333 is gonna beat KR7A. The KR7A's FSB overclocking ability is superb, with the FastCPU decode, and its reign-champ 1/2AGP, 1/4PCI divider. No other board beat this, ever, if the user special pick the components and plan out for mid 190's FSB, this board will nuke all other boards including the NF2 boards as well. Only problem is that cards like the GF4 series and especially the R9000/9500/9700 series cards go poo poo.... at those AGP/FSB speeds.
If you are planning to use the GF1, GF2, GF3 series, Kyro, R7000/7500/8500 series, the KR7A will nuke all boards out there in 3D games and 3Dmark as well as the overal performance due to exotic AGP/PCI bizarre speeds. eh eh... I thought I should mention that. :banana:
Now that is an accurate assessment:) ...not to mention I experienced the same results!Quote:
Originally posted by MrIcee
I've got news for ya:)
My KX7333R smoked my KR7A and my KD7-Raid smoked both of them....
Never owned a KX7, but as good as my KR7's were (are) and as much as I still love em, my KD7 with all it's quirks does indeed stomp mercilessly upon them.
Tiribulus:D
Says it all. Welcome to the madness of Xtreme.Quote:
IamAnoobieCheez
PS:D
My NF7-S WITH its quirks smokes ALL my previous boards hands down;)
Randi:D
Your trying to tempt me, aren't you Randi;)Quote:
Originally posted by MrIcee
PS:D
My NF7-S WITH its quirks smokes ALL my previous boards hands down;)
I am struggling trying to identify which of the 3 of 5 KD7-E sensors go with each temp. I think the HD temp is straight forward since it's listed in the sensor listings. I think the system one is a given as well. However, I've had to take a stab at the others.
Anyone care to take a stab based on the information provided?
does anyone know what im doing wrong, to not hit 200 or higher on the fsb? i picked up a maxtor 80gig with 8mb of cache, any suggestions before i install windows?
Can't help either Taco. I can't get past 190 even at the lowest memory settings.
I'm not sure which MBM sensor choices you used and how you chose to label them, but I can tell you this.Quote:
Originally posted by bigdawginva
I am struggling trying to identify which of the 3 of 5 KD7-E sensors go with each temp. I think the HD temp is straight forward since it's listed in the sensor listings. I think the system one is a given as well. However, I've had to take a stab at the others.
Anyone care to take a stab based on the information provided?
LM90 Remote is the CPU Diode temp
LM90 Local is the in socket temp
Winbond1 is the system temp
Still need more info.Quote:
Originally posted by taco
does anyone know what im doing wrong, to not hit 200 or higher on the fsb? i picked up a maxtor 80gig with 8mb of cache, any suggestions before i install windows?
How far have you got to on the FSB with stability?
What mutliplier and FSB were you using at that point?
Core and DDR voltages at that speed?
Temps at that speed?
Any PCI cards?
HD connected the Highpoint or regular IDE?
Every system is different, and I need more info, so it is hard to say. But I'll make a few suggestions.
Make sure your HD is on the Highpoint Controller.
Disable all unused mobo devices such as serial ports, parallel port, USB, on board sound, on board LAN, etc. If you use them fine, but if not, shut em down.
Keep the memory and core plenty volted. Low DDR voltage can result in HD corruption (as can low core voltage, but not as often).
Other things to consider:
Although I have not experienced HD corruption with the KD7-E, I did have the problem on my KD7. I beleive this is a well known issue with the KT400 chipsets and is reported to occure in the 198 to 208 range. Some people have gotten around it by setting the HDs to PIO mode (turning off DMA mode).
One other thought is the Radeon. I swapped to the KD7-E from my KD7-RAID becuase my Radeon 9700 Pro would not play nice in the KD7-RAID. It "forces" AGP x 8 in the BIOS when it recognizes the AGP x 8 card in there. The KD7-E is an AGP x 4 mobo. The max I could go in the KD7-RAID with the Radeon was about 188, but now I can get to 205 in the KD7-E.
Mike:)Quote:
Originally posted by mdzcpa
Your trying to tempt me, aren't you Randi;)
wait until the end of the month..then buy rev 2 to evaluate. You'll be a much happier camper all the way around ;)
Randi:D
Not to disrupt the flow of the thread right now, but /me is a happy camper, my replacement KD7-E came in today. Not only do I get to try it again, this one has Nichicon caps instead of the Rubycons in my original board :) Still a Rev 1.0 board.
isnt rev 2.0 suppose to have the 4 holes?
That sounds like a plan my friend:)Quote:
Originally posted by MrIcee
Mike:)
wait until the end of the month..then buy rev 2 to evaluate. You'll be a much happier camper all the way around ;)
Oooo...nice. Keep us posted on how it does please:)Quote:
Originally posted by sjohnson
Not to disrupt the flow of the thread right now, but /me is a happy camper, my replacement KD7-E came in today. Not only do I get to try it again, this one has Nichicon caps instead of the Rubycons in my original board :) Still a Rev 1.0 board.
Yes, Rev 2.0 will have the 4 holes plus some other additional fixes and niceties:)Quote:
Originally posted by taco
isnt rev 2.0 suppose to have the 4 holes?
Randi:D
Mike, that's exactly how I have those 3 plus the HD monitoring setup on this KD7-E. Good to know I was on the right track. I just can't figure out what Winbond 2 monitors.
BTW,
Can I tell which ones just from looking at the caps?Quote:
Nichicon caps instead of the Rubycons in my original board
Nichicon caps are silver...Rubycon dark blue/black:)
Randi:D
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Originally posted by MrIcee
Yes, Rev 2.0 will have some other additional fixes and niceties:)
ehm..
RANDI!!
i'm :slobber: for these!
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