not so much a petition as support/help in getting the new BIOS... but if you want to know more please PM, as I wont discuss in open forumQuote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
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not so much a petition as support/help in getting the new BIOS... but if you want to know more please PM, as I wont discuss in open forumQuote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
Well not really, they don't use strained silicon wafers, they use the technology they developed with IBM. Strained Silicon-On-Insulator (sSOI wafers that is). But otherwise is probably totaly correct that this is the first product with it from AMD. There plenty of pages regarding sSOI, includings both IBMs and AMDs.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
/me still waiting for dual core laptops :D
Dual Stress Liners. i believe it's a form of stress that uses both expansion and comression for the various types of transistors (high voltage and low voltage threshold iirc). google it and you'll come up with something.
i just wasn't sure if rev E had it cause i haven't seen any official word yet.
Whatever it is, it can't be worse :toast:
I remember reading in an article that Troy (rev E4 Opteron) had it, so I guess one could assume all the new revisions do as well. :)
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Originally Posted by perkam
score of 40+ what?
friday ill have some updates once we set up the turions up.
confirmed as arriving : 1X 1.8Ghz 25watt , 1X 1.6GHz 35 watt
Nice. :)
What boards you going to try them in? If they work, I'd very very interested in knowing how the 1.8GHz 25w overclocks (this is the 1mb L2 version, and not 512kb?), as this is what I would probably buy.
also, what is the rated voltage for the 25w part?
Until we know I'm guessing 1.2 V (= "Q" in OPN).Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
The 35 W ML uses 1.35 V and goes up to 2.4 GHz.
The 25 W MT uses 1.?? V and goes up to 2.2 GHz.
I checked CPUPower (must use comma for decimals): (35 : 1,35 : 2400 @ 1,2 : 2200) = 25.3 W
i was thinking a 1.15v part, but that seems way too low for a stock voltage at 2.2ghz
its a 1.1V
and only overclocking ill do is to change the multiplier, our pcbs dont
allow for fsb increases ... will wait until Said goes around to modding
the bios of our reference msi boards to work with those puppies :toast:
considering how my conversation with msi tech support is going, it looks like someone is going to need to mod the k8n neo bios to get the turion working. it might already, i don't know, but they're not being very receptive, and claiming that the system won't boot due to the low stock voltages :stick:
but as a side note, 1.8ghz on 1.1v!!! omg, nice.
1.1v is very yummy... I think my mind is made up.
As long as it's under $300, I'll be picking up an MT-34. :)
ill let you know how the neo works with teh chip by early next week at the latest m8 :) take careQuote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
thanks, i appreciate the effort. seriously :toast:
*figures out a way to work for amd*
:banana: :banana:
1.1 V???
Heh, awesome... well they have the possibility to ramp up to 1.2 V when the faster MT comes out. The question is if the ML will stay at 1.35 V. If so, then this 1.8 GHz @ 1.1 V CPU have a TDP = 17.4 W... :toast:
where do you get this 17.4w from?
undervolt a 35w chip from 1.35v to 1.1v..
wattage = 35 * (1.1 / 1.35)² = 23w :stick:
You forgot the speed drop from 2.4 to 1.8 GHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
:stick:
oh, my bad, i though he was trying to say something else.
though it definitly looks like the MT will be more speed binned and ML will be more thermally binned.
Has anyone seen a turion for sale yet?
I haven't, anyone know ETA?
april 15th iirc.
Any news?Quote:
Originally Posted by Voodoo|Minion
agreed. i'm dying to know how these turions are working out :banana: