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If you are willing to wait for a few months, go with DFI. It is worth the wait and you won't regret it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by choseone214
Hi Folks, a few days ago, I stepped from Intel PIV2.8E (3.8GHz) to this AMD64 (winchester 3200+ A8V deluxe setup).
I scratched my head, flashed the bios to 1009.006 (after reading all these very useful posts) and got this baby running 2750Mhz with a nice 32seconds SuperPI result (I needed 3800Mhz on the Intel to achieve 35s).
Temp readings seem rather low...
Case is Lian-Li, intake: 120mm titan@5V (sidepanel) and papst 80mm@12V (1500rpm). Outtake: 120mm titan @5V (top) and papst 80mm@12V (1500rpm).
PSU is OCZ Powerstream 520W
Watercooling consists of (external from case), reservoir 5liters, Eheim 1250, X2 radiator with 2x Enermax120mm (lowest speed) and Zalman ZM-WB2.
The only mod I did to the mobo is placing an old Zalman Northbridge cooler on the northbridge.
The screenshot is taken with f@h running at 100% for three days (24/7)...
I just started superPI with process-priority to realtime... (did not close f@h)
No stability issues (played FarCry, Doom3 and UT2004 for several hours)...
Strange thing is, room temperature 20.5°C, air from outtakes is absolutely cold, watertemp also... I went to the shop to buy a few temp-probes from CompuNurse to make sure the temp-readings are correct...
(gpu is FX5700 atm, 9800XT rma :s)
I'm using OCZ lld ed. PC3200 2-2-2-5 @ stockspeed atm, asynchronous with cpu... Will try some OCZ PC4000 EL Dual CH Gold ltd's 2.5-4-4-8 when I find some time too check if I gain some performance by running them synchronous with this cpu.
If anyone has more tips and tricks to get optimum performance, please post them... (I know, I should try to go higher, but right now, I need the rig, so I cannot push it and work at the same time :-()
http://users.pandora.be/kastaar/HO/2..._HTTx4_32s.JPG
Damned OCZ PC 4400 EL Dual CH Gold Limited edition 2.5-4-4-8 doesn't go over 250Mhz 1:1 ...
Still using bios 1009.006 ...
Get strange spd readings too (cpu-z): 2.5-6-6-11, 277Mhz
I tried these mothers on an Neo2 in august, they ran 295 and they did 270 on my Intel rig :-( -->2.8Volts
Sollution anyone???
temps look ok.. here is mine http://web50.dk/joor/39grader.JPG
39 right after i did superPI
Anybody tested their stock PI 1MB results with 3000+ winnie, A8V, dual channel running default everything (as in stock clock, loose timing and 2T)
I need some reference to troubleshoot. Thanks.
ps: I'm getting an OMFG 48sec with 3-4-4-8 2T :cry:
@Joor: thanks for posting your results, I verified my temps and in reality they are 2 or 3° higher than what the asusprobe reports, so I can live with that ;-)
? Can you tell me the biosversion you are using ?
@sotr: 48 seconds for those lousy timing is pretty normal on a winnie 3000+
You should gain at least 1 second by changing from 2T to 1T (set the 2T thingy in bios to "disabled") and gain maybe another second when changing to the latest bios (changing from 1008.002 to 1009.006 sure helped me)...
When I booted the winnie 3200+ for the first time I got a 44second superPI score, so no worries, this baby will live up to you expectations.
:confused: Anyone knows about the differences between 1009.006 beta and 1009.007 beta :confused:
Im using 1009.004 atm
The 1009 final is out btw: ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...xe/A8V1009.zip
Sweet! Thx man!
Funny thing is, I checked the site one hour ago and it still said 1009.007 beta until then :D
Humz... just flashed to 1009 final...
Nothing seems to have changed :(
Well yes, there is a change, bios vcore reading is as wrong as in 1008.003...
Was correct in 1009.006... strange...
Will do more testing next year...
tell me if i'm right i was using 1008 bios on the a8v with my fx-53 939 pin was clocking to 2.9 ghz with 200 fbs and 14.5 multiplier and i noticed that my system woudl crash when i leave it on i had a vapo also . at -48c . is this random lockup's due to condensation in the pins becaue i have not put any dilectric greese on the pins. i was wondering is this beacuse of agp locks or the vapo condecation. and for some reason i cant seem to boot up at 3.0 ghz i think its agp lock i sent my board back to asus for repair on the memory controller i messed up recently. will they give me rev2.0 board or will they give me the same 1.02 board ? :stick: :confused:
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Originally Posted by cubanyayo
Mate... I have this same board, FX53 and a Mach II GT (instead of your Vapo).
The problem is because you are using the 1008 Bios. This BIOS only has a max vCore of 1.75v and to get 2.9ghz or 3ghz you will need 1.8v to 1.85v. This is what I need! if you go get BIOS 1006 final (1005.027) then you have a max vCore of 1.8v and will clock higher :)
All bios revisions are here mate... ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket939/a8v-deluxe/
Hey Im hoping you can help me. I have an A8V Deluxe Rev2. I have tried alot of diffrent things trying to pass 2.2ghz stable. Let me start off with my specs. Sorry about the long post ...........Quote:
Originally Posted by OneyedK
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--------[ EVEREST Home Edition (c) 2003, 2004 Lavalys, Inc.
Version EVEREST v1.51.195
Homepage http://www.lavalys.com/
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail)
Date 2005-01-16
Time 20:50
CPU Properties:
CPU Type AMD Athlon 64 3200+
CPU Alias Winchester S939
CPU Stepping DH7-D0
CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
CPUID Revision 00010FF0h
CPU Speed:
CPU Clock 2002.43 MHz
CPU Multiplier 10.0x
CPU FSB 200.24 MHz (original: 200 MHz)
Memory Bus 200.24 MHz
CPU Cache:
L1 Code Cache 64 KB (Parity)
L1 Data Cache 64 KB (ECC)
L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, Full-Speed)
Motherboard Properties:
Motherboard ID 63-0907-000001-00101111-122204-ATHLON64$A0036001_BIOS Date: 12/22/04 19:53:52 Ver: 08.
Motherboard Name Asus A8V Deluxe (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)
Chipset Properties:
Motherboard Chipset VIA K8T800Pro, AMD Hammer
Memory Timings 2-2-2-5 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
Command Rate (CR) 1T
SPD Memory Modules:
DIMM1: Corsair CMX512-3200XL 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.0-2-2-5 @ 200 MHz)
DIMM2: Corsair CMX512-3200XL 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.0-2-2-5 @ 200 MHz)
BIOS Properties:
System BIOS Date 12/22/04
Video BIOS Date 06/07/04
DMI BIOS Version 1009.007
Graphics Processor Properties:
DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)
Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
GPU Code Name NV40GT (AGP 8x 10DE / 0045, Rev A1)
GPU Clock 399 MHz
Memory Clock 552 MHz
Sensor Properties:
Tsystem 24 °C (75 °F)
Tcpu 29 °C (84 °F)
Fcpu 2033 RPM
Fcase 3444 RPM
Fpowersupply 3709 RPM
Vcore 1.46 V
Vio 3.41 V
Now, I have tried turning off fast writes, upping the vcore and ram voltage. As well as loosening the timins. I achieved 2.2 stable windows boot at 2-2-2-5. I passed 3dmark 10times. However playing my game RTCW, wolfenstein, I get alot of crashes. I had some of the same crashes in Half Life2. Where its either a blue screen with a memory error or just the screen freezes and the sound freezes as well. A long beep most of the time. Coming off a long Intel fanboy tour of duty, i find Overclocking this platform very confusing. I was hoping that one of you Using an A8V+3200 939 + 1GB of Corsair XMS LL 2-2-2-5 rated memory could give me some settings to achieve a solid OC as well not have to use timings that are tooo loose. Im seeying many ppl achieve crazy OCs with this board on air and with my memory. Please help. Im an enthusiast, but I cant seem to grasp the whole, ratio and timings this platform. Thanks in advance!
:confused:
Oh yeah at stock I run %100 stable. No problems whatsoever. On my OC Prime 95 stops at like 15mins. Same crashes happen at 3-4-4-6, 1T and fast writes off. Memory 2:1.
This is my post on other forum. If it helps.
http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86977
Is the gentleman above getting above 2.6 hitting that because his multiplier is 196 X 14? Is that the magical equation. Lower the memory speed and use a higher multiplier? If so please let me know if I should use same timings and ratio as above.
I'm sorry, I wasn't reading about AMD anymore since I sold the winnie...
I happen to be a HT-addict and needed an Intel rig again ;-)
i560 on the way :banana:
Problem with the A8V deluxe (even rev.2) is the poor 1:1 performance... (with bios 1009)
So that's the reason why I needed to use that strange divider...
Other people here seemed to reach higher 1:1 frequencies with bios 1008, so you might try that...
By the way, you upped the vcore, I guess?!
All the info you need should be in the screenshot ;-)
Nothing fancy about it... running 1T...
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Originally Posted by Obi-wan Kenobi
The problems in games is because of the via agp driver. You must install that one provided my microsoft in service pack 2. Look this how to do it : http://forums.viaarena.com/messagevi...20AND%20driver
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Originally Posted by soki
But the thing is Im getting these crashes with my overclocks. Not on standard settings. I hate this memory. I see people all over the place hitting atleast 2.2 and exactly my specs. I loosen the timings a bit and nothing, same crashes in game. I think this memory is only able to do 2.2.2.5 on standard settings. It does achieve what it promises. But on this platform it seems you have to tweak the hell out of all the settings to walk away with nice OC. On intel, you just get high rated ram, UP the bus and loosen the timings and Bam, super OCs. I ran my old prescott 2.8 to 3.7 on air using Kingston HyperX PC4000 @ 3-4-4-6. Im having NO luck with this board. Dont get me wrong, by no means is this a crappy computer. This baby is fast, I just want to push its envelope and squeeze the goodies out of it. You know? :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
First, to use a higher memory bus, drop the HTT in Bios to 4 instead of 5.
Second, drop the menory timings to 2.5 3 3 10 1T (by disabling 2T command)
third putmemclock on Limit 2:1 400 instead of auto
Raise memory voltage to 2.7 instead of auto (2.8 volts do not work on some memory combination?)
Raise cpu voltage to 2.5 to start. You can go up to 2.60 if needed later on.
first try at 220FSB and 10 multiplier.
You slould be able to boot at these settings.
By using CPUZ and clockgen program, check if the memory is working at 220FSB divider 10 with CPUZ.
Use clock gen to up the FSB slowly to find the limit. You should be able to go much higher.Use SuperPi to check stability at each step.
You can also change the multiplier in Windows with clockgen.
Monitor your cpu temperature, stay below 55C.
Have fun.
Once you find your max, change the settings in BIOS to the required freq.
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Originally Posted by Lola
Sweet. Finally I understand. You my friend are a genious. I want to have your babies. I have read a million post everywhere but they were from ppl that have a better grasp of this platform. Thanks for the help
:toast: :banana: :banana: :banana4:
My memory topped out at 225mhz 2.5-3-3-6 (i tried 10) I wont go a drop over 225. I did pass SuperPI 32M, and 3dmark looped. Now, that I have found this out, Would i be able to push this any further with better memory. Also, How much does lowering the HTT to 800 effect the performance. If i do my math right...... now that Ive lowered it to 800, my memory running at 225 X 4 would give me a 900mhz bus. Is that right? My everest benchmarks are way up after i lowered the HTT and did my overclock. Please explain if i am taking a hit on performance by doing so. I couldnt get my CorsairXMS stable with HTT1000 and the memory running anything past 205mhz.
new BIOS out : ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...e/1010-002.zip
Can't wait to get home and try it :D
By the way I give up on this motherFunken board and platform. From the get go its been nothing but a pain. I had to try 4 motherboards in order to get my baby to boot. All that after i had to do weird shat to get it to boot. I cannot get this board stable past 2.2ghz. That blows. Sure I settled on this only because this was the only one to post with my 3200+ 939 proc. But still. I pass ALL benches and it crashes on crappy ET. Im going back to Intel. I never had a Proc not boot, I could easily push the bus to OC, and I never had to worry about getting the voltage, timings, ddram voltage, fast writes, and all this other crap in sequence just to get stable. F that. Sorry Ive ranted, I know that alot of you have had good experiences but Im fed up. Peace. :p:
u sure its the mobo? 5 boards is alot...
I think this was the only board with a recent bios at the time that could boot. USing the place the dimm in the third slot trick and than using afudos. None of the other boards even booted. Nothing. No post. I will admit, that this is a fast platform, But when you want to push it,,,,,.... just even a tad. I cant get it to go anywhere. I checked all my voltages etc and have used all the tweaks possible. I even took out this ram, took out the hyperX 4000 from my prescott 2.8 build out. The hyperX (higher speed rated memory) still gets crashes even though passing all test, with the timings of 3-4-4-8. I took the Corsair 2-2-2-5 Rated Memory and it ran my 2.8 to 3.4 with no problems at 3-3-3-6 without having to do anything. It passed all benchies and played my game without any crashes. I even have a cheaper thermaltake 420psu in there. I just dont get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by enzoR
Plus on stock i can play every single game in my collection and no crashes. I up the memory 5mhz and crash. I het this. Bye.