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Didn't mean for you to get upset BigToe. Just wanted to encourage the "little guy" because that's usually how great things happen (ie. the madman working on something in his garage from 1am to 6am daily ;)).
Again... good luck HiPro. With the quality of work we've all seen from you in the past... I doubt anyone here questions whether or not you'll be able to do something great(if it's possible).
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You are 100% correct Jeff.......
Hipro did you established the cost yet?????
My kingston value ram has infineon chips(bt-6) and spd 2-3-3-6 for 166 and 3-3-3-9 is it possible you can do the job with those without spd programming just soldering the new chips??
something i think bigtoe is getting at is without double checking before and after, simple replacing chips, or with new pcb's just adding them. Well, you could have just one bad chip on there and it wouldn't pass 200Mhz, even though possibly the rest could all do say 280Mhz 2,2,2,5 at 3.6v.
Without having the nessary machines to test them quickly my bet would be either extremely slow production, by the end meaning that well, even better ram, or demand might be just gone.
Also, even though people might buy on a "forum selling no warranty" basis, people could get upset and make trouble for him.
THeres a lot of different angles to think about, not to mention what I would assume would be a lack of experience(no offence, not sure what you do, but would guess you don't produce ram ;) ).
Would be nice to see some well priced bh-5, but i'll also assume that in small quantities, the pcb's, machine time, programming, designing will not be cheap.
Thats exactly what im saying...Thank you :)Quote:
Originally posted by drunkenmaster
something i think bigtoe is getting at is without double checking before and after, simple replacing chips, or with new pcb's just adding them. Well, you could have just one bad chip on there and it wouldn't pass 200Mhz, even though possibly the rest could all do say 280Mhz 2,2,2,5 at 3.6v.
Without having the nessary machines to test them quickly my bet would be either extremely slow production, by the end meaning that well, even better ram, or demand might be just gone.
Also, even though people might buy on a "forum selling no warranty" basis, people could get upset and make trouble for him.
THeres a lot of different angles to think about, not to mention what I would assume would be a lack of experience(no offence, not sure what you do, but would guess you don't produce ram ;) ).
Would be nice to see some well priced bh-5, but i'll also assume that in small quantities, the pcb's, machine time, programming, designing will not be cheap.
hipro :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
hellas spirit rulezzzzz:D
Are these BH-5s your talking about the earlier 225, 226 "good" modules?
Bigtoe you are right it wil take a lot hours to produce many BH5/6 RAMS but why the heck hipro5 shouldn't try it.........
He is the best at what he does after all......
No offence again my friend.....
BH-5/6 isn't produced anymore but is the best ram and hipro is right now the only way we can get those RAMS
Do not know......Maybe today or tommorow I'll have an answer from them for the numbers on them and hopefully a picture of a chip..........I know I've asked them a lot , BUT I want to be sure before I buy anything.........Quote:
Originally posted by aoc007
Are these BH-5s your talking about the earlier 225, 226 "good" modules?
You are right BUT you have to understand that I don't want to be rich out of it......After all I have my job......I have pattient of what I'm doing and even if I could built 2 pairs a day , I REALY DON'T care......I like making people happy...... ;) :DQuote:
Originally posted by drunkenmaster
something i think bigtoe is getting at is without double checking before and after, simple replacing chips, or with new pcb's just adding them. Well, you could have just one bad chip on there and it wouldn't pass 200Mhz, even though possibly the rest could all do say 280Mhz 2,2,2,5 at 3.6v.
Without having the nessary machines to test them quickly my bet would be either extremely slow production, by the end meaning that well, even better ram, or demand might be just gone.
Also, even though people might buy on a "forum selling no warranty" basis, people could get upset and make trouble for him.
THeres a lot of different angles to think about, not to mention what I would assume would be a lack of experience(no offence, not sure what you do, but would guess you don't produce ram ;) ).
Would be nice to see some well priced bh-5, but i'll also assume that in small quantities, the pcb's, machine time, programming, designing will not be cheap.
P.S. IF this will happen at last , I will NOT permit NOT even one module "go away" without making 240MHz(480MHz DDR) with Cas 2-5-2-2 and 3.1Vdimm.......and MINIMUM 265MHz(530MHz DDR) with Cas 2-5-2-2 and 3.5Vdimm on a Canterwood mobo......So on an A64 would perform even better..........ALL of the modules will be tested and will have their "lebel" on them of what they did and how they did it.....HAS anyone else done such a thing before???......You will KNOW EXACTLY what you're getting.....NOT BAD!!!...... :D
I own a company that manufactures RF F.M. Transmiters(PLL Exciters and RF amplifiers) and VHF - UHF TV tranposers , repeaters , e.t.c.......So I'm IN the spirit of designing (as I desing and produce my own PCBs) and manufacturing........ ;)Quote:
Originally posted by drunkenmaster
THeres a lot of different angles to think about, not to mention what I would assume would be a lack of experience(no offence, not sure what you do, but would guess you don't produce ram ;) ). [/B]
PLL FM 20Watts...... :)
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/Temp/pllslim.jpg
When can I send you the money :DQuote:
Originally posted by hipro5
You are right BUT you have to understand that I don't want to be rich out of it......After all I have my job......I have pattient of what I'm doing and even if I could built 2 pairs a day , I REALY DON'T care......I like making people happy...... ;) :D
P.S. IF this will happen at last , I will NOT permit NOT even one module "go away" without making 240MHz(480MHz DDR) with Cas 2-5-2-2 and 3.1Vdimm.......and MINIMUM 265MHz(530MHz DDR) with Cas 2-5-2-2 and 3.5Vdimm on a Canterwood mobo......So on an A64 would perform even better..........ALL of the modules will be tested and will have their "lebel" on them of what they did and how they did it.....HAS anyone else done such a thing before???......You will KNOW EXACTLY what you're getting.....NOT BAD!!!...... :D
I own a company that manufactures RF F.M. Transmiters(PLL Exciters and RF amplifiers) and VHF - UHF TV tranposers , repeaters , e.t.c.......So I'm IN the spirit of designing (as I desing and produce my own PCBs) and manufacturing........ ;)
PLL FM 20Watts...... :)
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/Temp/pllslim.jpg
the problem is, if you can only make 2 dimms a day, then in every 6 dimms you find one faulty, and it takes de-soldering and re-soldering each chips before you find a faulty one taking another day.
THen you find the first few's pcb's all burn out after a few weeks. I'm not trying to be a buzz kill, but assuming you don't have the equipment to pre test the chips without being on a dimm, then you won't have the time saving bit of discarding dead chips straight off. THeres also very little garentee that most would come close to 240mhz.
THe other side of the argument is, you could get lucky and not get a single bad chip at all , have no delays with anything going wrong and have none die within a very fair time of being sold.
Really, hopefully you can buy a small amount at first to check the average quality so you don't get in deep.
I don't even know how you might test the chips beforehand, bigtoe, is it a case of having a dimm roughly like a bios chip, 8 plugable slots, and try them out very quickly to narrow down and try to quickly weed out dead or faulty IC's?
Either way, good luck to ya. Will be all good if some is available in uk without stupid prices. STill can't quite get over £185 for a gig of EB imported from teh states(with tax added) and £250 from a uk store.
He is certainly the man.....240mhz with 3,1vdimm rocking!!!!!!!
I'm proud to be Greek
Will you accept credit cards?:D :D
Hipro, I know you can do it:toast: :toast:
Keep some sticks to Portugal.....:banana: :banana:
He is no DRAM maker m8...thats why i am still advising caution.Quote:
Originally posted by apostglen46
Bigtoe you are right it wil take a lot hours to produce many BH5/6 RAMS but why the heck hipro5 shouldn't try it.........
He is the best at what he does after all......
No offence again my friend.....
BH-5/6 isn't produced anymore but is the best ram and hipro is right now the only way we can get those RAMS
If he spends $6 per IC thats $6k for 1000 pieces or $72k for all 12k pieces, they may be cheaper, or they may be more expensive...i know one thing for an indevidual its a lot of cash to put on the line if the yield on the IC's is cr@p.
If you can get it done then I say SWEET!
But personally I think your going in over your head. I would guess that all the testing equipment would cost you a boat load of cash and finding someone to make and design RAM PCB's would cost a lot too. But as I said if you can do it you'll prove yet again your one cool dude :D
Steve
For start(not to through my money away) I'll get about 1000 piecies(minimum order) and test them....IF the chips proved to be good , and I can't find a good PCB to back them up , I'll design my own PCB IF chips worth it.......;)Quote:
Originally posted by Spec3
If you can get it done then I say SWEET!
But personally I think your going in over your head. I would guess that all the testing equipment would cost you a boat load of cash and finding someone to make and design RAM PCB's would cost a lot too. But as I said if you can do it you'll prove yet again your one cool dude :D
Steve
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/T...pture1_png.png
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/T...pture3_png.png
This one was designed in year 2001.......It would feed a Peltier so as to cool down the CPU automaticaly when needed(full load - idle).......This is the front panel(control panel) of a 5.25 bay... It reads three individual temperatures - automaticaly controls the CPU's Peltier- alarms them(temperatures) in high reading - shuts down the PC automaticaly in high temp reading - e.t.c. ......The main cirquit is in the 5.25 bay.....It supposed to hit the market BUT time changes everything.......CPU start clocking higher , MORE wattage needed and I thought (and I did well) that it ain't worth it anymore.......Extreme freezing need to be done......Does this reminds you anything???.......Yes ........Thermaltake.......They did it a year ago .......Two years AFTER my thoughts......But now it's too late to use such a cirquit.... :D
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/T...pture2_jpg.jpg
Is anyone interested of a hipro5's RAM PCB??? :D
HOOOOOOOOLLLY BANANA...
drooling already after seeing this..
:slapass: <--- thermaltake..
:D Just wait till you see my new project in about three weeks from now ......Just to be ready......You'll get suprised and NOT only you....That's for sure...... :DQuote:
Originally posted by bias_hjorth
HOOOOOOOOLLLY BANANA...
drooling already after seeing this..
:slapass: <--- thermaltake..
I stand by my statement that if these chips are decent... HiPro is the man to get this "job" done!!! :D
i whole heartedly agreeQuote:
Originally posted by Jeff
I stand by my statement that if these chips are decent... HiPro is the man to get this "job" done!!! :D
Thanks guys....... :D :toast:
Of course he is, some of us are just advising caution ;)
Ey, we're all cheering for Hipro here. If he pulls this off, we'll truly be some of the most elite overclockers on the planet with special CUSTOM low latency RAM.
I've got my fingers crossed for ya Hipro, I await results :D
^ Ditto
This should be really interesting :D
Good luck hipro ! :toast:
i got in this thread late, as i have been doing research on my bh-5 mushkin and my a64 setup for compatibility issues... still ahvent found an answer to that. but i would deffinatly be interested in a few sticks, or maybe just picking up some chips from you to play with. as i have some bh-6 sticks laying around somewhere that i lost a few chips on. however one thing that interested me is the peltier device. would be nice to hook up to a custom P-C system. got any prototypes i caould try:) after looking at the pcb designt you got there i deffinatly think you got a good chance to come out with a few good sticks if not more. heck with the design skills i seen so far you might be able to design a test set to test the chips for a certian freq. at a certian voltage. you got my mind a wondering now.