Is it so clear in game though? Synthetics are all well and good, but don't necessarily mean anything in the real world.Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
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Is it so clear in game though? Synthetics are all well and good, but don't necessarily mean anything in the real world.Quote:
Originally Posted by eric66
OK today is the NDA break for AMD's HD5870/HD5850, however, anyone see a HD5850 review??
And yes, I can make me an idea about his performance (matched with GTX285) but seriously, not even one review?
Interesting review.Quote:
Originally Posted by strange|ife
XBIT's power consumption numbers look awesome.
Wow what a card! Ati have done everything right. If I was going to upgrade this would be the card. Well done Ati.
one I read did in one of the main page (they downclocked and disabled 2 simd's or something so its literally 100% 5850 with maybe bit higher power consumptionQuote:
Originally Posted by mk_dir
FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINALLYYY!!!!
god this was the slowest launch ever... and cards still arent in retail :rolleyes:
Like i said, i'll be buying myself a 5870 for Christmas, to replace the 4850 Crossfire setup i have at the moment. No doubt drivers will unleash more potential over the coming months.
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Originally Posted by mk_dir
What I have only read is that the 50's will use the same memory as 70's, and I still want confirmation...
It will be great for overclocking :)
I can buy from plenty places in UK :p: so ARE retail heheQuote:
Originally Posted by saaya
yeah I agree too long though, they shouldnt have anounced its 3 weeks ago. just anounce it today WITH stock, seems a lot better or even a week ago.. 3 just took the biscuit hehe =)
no they dont use same memory, they use pretty much the same thats on 4890's @ 4000mhz, the 70's get the big dog 5000mhzQuote:
Originally Posted by xgate
There's not ONE place in germany where HD-5870 and HD-5850 are available...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesrt2004
Exchange between pound and euro is quite good, but afaik your hw-prices suck, am I right?
€dith: Nope :eek: Not really. But I'm waiting for the HD-5850.
A quick question. Why is there no 5850 review available atm?
1> Was there a separate NDA for the 2 cards?
2> Were there no sample cards given by AMD to reviewers?
3> Did AMD ask reviewers to postpone said reviews due to market supply problems/glitches?
4> Was this a strategy decision by AMD, for marketing or other reasons?
As 5850 was put up against GTX 285 in the marketing slides, 5870 is foreseen to rival with GTX 295...Quote:
Originally Posted by Newblar
The cards are nicely performing, but I hope them drivers mature fast and games, software is adapted rapidly, so we can see some real gains of these GPU's...
Only thing I see is pre order...where did you order yours Jamesrt2004 ?
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Originally Posted by mk_dir
Techpowerup?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesrt2004
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...HD_5870/5.htmlQuote:
We simulated the performance of the HD 5850 by taking our HD 5870, reducing the clock speeds and disabling two SIMDs, which results in exactly the same performance as HD 5850.
Lost in a lot of the shuffle is the fact that AMD/ATI has had these cards out for DX11 devs since June...
We all know what happened last time we went to DX10. Nvidia had its cards out far earlier, and devs worked much more closely with Nvidia...
Obviously, a lot remains to be seen, but it wouldn't surprise me if DX11 titles, early on at least, have a slight ATI slant
w1zz disabled a part of his 5870 and downclocked it to 5850 clocks... he says its the same perf as a 5850...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante80
so tpu has the only 5850 review and its not even a REAL 5850 review? 0_o
and this after all the hype and "hold your horses" launch? :stick:
terrible launch...
link? its listed in many places but no stock... its pre-order... :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesrt2004
and i just finished the tpu review... 43db under load for the 5870? :stick:
thats a lot... and tdp is about the same as a gtx285 so why is it 6db noisier?
and performance... i really expected more...
both 5850 and 5870 are always between 285/4890 and 4870x2/295...
i thought the 5870 was supposed to beat at least the 4870x2 and the 295 at least in some cases?
5850 is on average only 5% faster than a 285...
the 5870 is on average 15% slower than a 295...
compared to their own predecessors the 5850 is only ~20% faster on average than a 4890 and a 5870 is only ~40% faster...
performance per dollar the 5870 is about the same as a gtx285 and the 5850 is between a 280 and 260...
the 5870 only oced around 5%... so basically zero...
5870 at 379$ and 5850 at 259$ are still priced too high...
4890s are available below 200$ and are only 20% slower than a 5850...
4870x2 is available for 330$, 50$ less than a 5870 and its faster than a 5870!!!
this is really a big letdown... double the hw resources and only a mere 20-40% performance gain? how come? maybe its because they have two seperate blocks of 800sps instead of one block of 1600 sps? thats probably what chiphell was refering to with their dualcore gpu talk...
im really dissapointed... more hw resources than a 4870x2, in one gpu and not 2, at higher gpu clocks, with faster memory... and it ends up slower than the 4870x2? and it costs more? :confused:
what happened???
Drivers anyone? ^
At release, the GTX 280 was benched to be slower than the 9800 GX2. The 4800's, while faster than the 38xx's by a lot, were oft compared to the 9800GTX's... Well, add on a 4870 1GB edition, driver improvements... and voila, performance is where we think of it today.
Lost in a lot of the shuffle is the fact that AMD/ATI has had these cards out for DX11 devs since June...
We all know what happened last time we went to DX10. Nvidia had its cards out far earlier, and devs worked much more closely with Nvidia...
Obviously, a lot remains to be seen, but it wouldn't surprise me if DX11 titles, early on at least, have a slight ATI slant
Wow.. my bad ... on the main page it saidQuote:
Originally Posted by saaya
"We have large amounts of stock available of the Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with more cards from XFX, PowerColor, Gigabyte and VTX arriving later this week. "
and I could purchase one earliar, but they already ran out it seems and are pre-order for more :ROTF:
Interesting test where they are using one AMD system and one Intel system.
5870 on Intel i7 940 and AMD Phenom II 955
I think that's the main reason, I heard that the portion of full working RV870 chips per wafer are relative high, so there's gonna be a stock problem for the HD5850 for the first weeks, as far as HD5850 GPU cores are not laser cutted...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante80
Thanks a lot! In synthesis:Quote:
Originally Posted by onethreehill
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ATI/Radeon...es/perfrel.gif
Ugh.. what?Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ATI/Radeon...s/perfwatt.gif
avaliable @ ncix
Considering the drivers were only sent out last Monday (not much time to do a review eh?), I think the driver devs had been holding them back as long as possible, so if they aren't up to par it's disappointing.Quote:
Originally Posted by zerazax
Graph skills reading needed Saaya :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
edit : 4870X2 has 50% more bandwidth than 5870, that the point!