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06-17-2009, 08:41 AM
Martijn

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Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

IP bans don't work. For instance I have access to several hundred IPs I could use to submit results via library and work computers. We just have to stay vigilant and police the databases thoroughly.

Exactly. Not to mention that many people don't even have a static IP at home.
06-17-2009, 09:42 AM
kenofstephen

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Originally Posted by Omastar

STFU.

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Originally Posted by FUGGER

Omastar was shown the door.

Fantastic!! :ROTF::rofl:
06-17-2009, 09:47 AM
mike

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Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

Was really surprised how fast Futuremark moved on this. Now, where is 3DMark 2010?

the :banana::banana::banana::banana:?

Very cool to see Futuremark acting on this also! I would have assumed OPB himself would remove the results after he himself admitted to have cheated - but it was FM who had to do the dirty work.

There are already weird speculations on reasons, explanations and excuses for why OPB cheated - In my mind none of this matters - point is - he clearly cheated, and it has been proven beyond any doubts to the involved entities. He has stood up to the accusations and accepted the consequences. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors. Hwbot.org has clear rules that have not been abided by - end of story.

back to benching
06-17-2009, 11:00 AM
runmc

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Originally Posted by runmc

Stay on topic or leave the thread. :up:

I'm sorry if I sounded rude or overbearing on this request.:( It most definitely was not directed at anyone in particular. :buddies:
thank you for understanding :)
06-17-2009, 12:02 PM
Leeghoofd

With that sig, pretty sure everyone forgives you :p
06-17-2009, 05:29 PM
dominick32

Just my 2 cents. OPB as a person to me in the past was extremely helpful with the original sets of team extreme ram, and I spoke to him personally great guy. I have all the respect in the world for him as a person and human being. But, I agree with HWbot and I believe he should be banned from any competion or public benching in the future. Not only do his results cheat with scores/teams/points but it leads people in the wrong direction and gives them false hopes regarding overclocking results. Cheaters never prosper. I am glad the mistakes were admitted and that all of this can just move away and be forgotten. He should def never be allowed back in the benching arena with the prominent benchers like vince, fugger, vapor, andre, hipro, gautam, etc. etc. sorry if I forgot anyone but you get the point. No cheater ever belongs in the same sentence with those gentleman.
06-17-2009, 06:44 PM
CCC

i remember talking to people about him probably 4 years ago, if not longer. there were quite a few high end benchers back then that didnt trust him or his results.

hard to believe he made it this long really. great to see he finally got caught and will be erased from the high end elite overclockers

P.S. Hey Ron how ya been? :)
06-17-2009, 07:55 PM
roofsniper

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Originally Posted by dominick32

Just my 2 cents. OPB as a person to me in the past was extremely helpful with the original sets of team extreme ram, and I spoke to him personally great guy. I have all the respect in the world for him as a person and human being. But, I agree with HWbot and I believe he should be banned from any competion or public benching in the future. Not only do his results cheat with scores/teams/points but it leads people in the wrong direction and gives them false hopes regarding overclocking results. Cheaters never prosper. I am glad the mistakes were admitted and that all of this can just move away and be forgotten. He should def never be allowed back in the benching arena with the prominent benchers like vince, fugger, vapor, andre, hipro, gautam, etc. etc. sorry if I forgot anyone but you get the point. No cheater ever belongs in the same sentence with those gentleman.

+1 :up: good post.
06-17-2009, 09:32 PM
QuadDamage

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Originally Posted by CCC

i remember talking to people about him probably 4 years ago, if not longer. there were quite a few high end benchers back then that didnt trust him or his results.

hard to believe he made it this long really. great to see he finally got caught and will be erased from the high end elite overclockers

P.S. Hey Ron how ya been? :)

Hey CCC what's up buddy. Well put but what i find even more shocking is that the guy still expects people to take him seriosuly because he "apologized". IMO he's been hacking for years and deserves all the crap he gets.
You wanna be compared to real legends like DJ, macci, OPP, Randi, Holicho, Kyosen, Highwayman etc you gotta put real work in around here, boy.
06-17-2009, 11:00 PM
[XC] Oj101

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Originally Posted by FUGGER

Omastar was shown the door.

It's surprising that a long-ish standing member of the forums (he was here for almost three years) gets himself thrown out just like that. :down: to him and :up: to you for keeping the forums clean.
06-17-2009, 11:04 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by Oj101

It's surprising that a long-ish standing member of the forums (he was here for almost three years) gets himself thrown out just like that. :down: to him and :up: to you for keeping the forums clean.

Omastar had just come back from a long ban the day before and knew damned well that telling a Admin to STFU was essentially self-banning..
And the killer to me personally is that it was to Ron who is really one of the most laid back nice people you'll ever meet.. yea, he banned himself, Fugger just dotted the I's and crossed the T's..
06-17-2009, 11:15 PM
[XC] gomeler

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Originally Posted by Movieman

Omastar had just come back from a long ban the day before and knew damned well that telling a Admin to STFU was essentially self-banning..
And the killer to me personally is that it was to Ron who is really one of the most laid back nice people you'll ever meet.. yea, he banned himself, Fugger just dotted the I's and crossed the T's..

Dave, go to bed before I ban you for the night. :cool: oh, and to keep it on topic, I'm still boggled as to why he did what he did.
06-17-2009, 11:17 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

Dave, go to bed before I ban you for the night. :cool: oh, and to keep it on topic, I'm still boggled as to why he did what he did.

He did what he did because he wanted to be banned.;)

Now what is this? You telling ME to go to bed?
I have kids older than you are!:rofl:
06-17-2009, 11:28 PM
massman

Bed time ~ the bell curve: the older you get, the longer you're allowed to be up. However, if you pass a certain age, you have to go to bed sooner.

I guess you're past that critical age, Movieman :rotf:
06-17-2009, 11:31 PM
Movieman

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Originally Posted by massman

Bed time ~ the bell curve: the older you get, the longer you're allowed to be up. However, if you pass a certain age, you have to go to bed sooner.

I guess you're past that critical age, Movieman :rotf:

For years i got up every morning at 4:30am..
had to force it as my internal clock makes me basically a night owl. Now I sleep when I want, get up when I want..to a degree..
But your right on one part, the past 3-4 years the all nighters get tougher..age is setting in..:shakes:
06-17-2009, 11:36 PM
[XC] gomeler

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Originally Posted by Movieman

For years i got up every morning at 4:30am..
had to force it as my internal clock makes me basically a night owl. Now I sleep when I want, get up when I want..to a degree..
But your right on one part, the past 3-4 years the all nighters get tougher..age is setting in..:shakes:

I feel ya.. I'm 8 hours into my review of the EVGA Classified and I want to go to bed. My back aches, my eyes are droopy, and I need to change my diaper :eek:

*stern Dave voice* alright you hooligans, I think we've got off-topic enough :D
06-18-2009, 12:02 AM
Movieman

Alright you hooligans, I think we've got off-topic enough!:rofl:

Good night all!
06-18-2009, 12:07 AM
Martijn

Morning Dave :D

See how late it is? Even the Europeans are awake already :shakes:
06-18-2009, 12:28 AM
[XC] Oj101

Here in South Africa it's 10:30 already :D
06-18-2009, 12:42 AM
[XC] gomeler

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Originally Posted by Oj101

Here in South Africa it's 10:30 already :D

4:40am in Atlanta :( Time to grab 3 hours of sleep and go to school :rolleyes:
06-18-2009, 01:02 AM
soundood

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Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

4:40am in Atlanta :( Time to grab 3 hours of sleep and go to school :rolleyes:

3 hours sleep, to go to school? rock n roll is truly dead :ROTF:

when i was young, i would go 3-4 days without sleep, with the odd cat nap, inbetween lessons, look at me know !!!!!

signed: McDonalds Worker :up:
06-18-2009, 01:21 AM
[XC] Oj101

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Originally Posted by soundood

look at me know !!!!!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ine=1242762838

Yeah...:ROTF:
06-18-2009, 01:35 AM
soundood

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Originally Posted by Oj101

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ine=1242762838

Yeah...:ROTF:

i swear i didnt mean that spelling mistake, just goes to prove what i was saying :rofl:
06-18-2009, 03:03 AM
kiwi

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Originally Posted by saaya

lol, i love how some people are thinking really hard to try and come up with some explanation and some way that he didnt cheat and all his stories of MEGA SUPER SECRET CIA BACKDOOR HIDDEN MICROSOFT ULTRA tweaks are true :D

talk to microsoft... or anybody who knows about linux... yes, you can get a performance boost if you recompile the os kernel specifically tuned for the one app you want to run... but there are thousands of software engineers working hard to tweak the windows kernel and the hardware drivers as much as possible for 3D... what makes you think one single person could come up with a faster driver/kernel than those thousands of people with quite some frickin geniouses involved in it all?

sure there are tweaks to get an app run faster, but those can only do so much... there is a theoretical limit of how much perf you can get out of your hardware at certain clocks and opb has been notably above that several times in the past... there is no tweak that can do this... and if he knew such awesome tweaks then why did he cheat? he was at about the same clocks as everybody else, if he would have had a great tweak it would have pushed him above everybody else... oh wait, it did... but this tweak was actually a cheat manipulating the benchmarks :P

Not defending anyone but you do remember performance bios where you could get way better 1M time? Initially nobody knew about it :)

And who said that similar bios/MCH bar/spd or whatever modifications cant be done? For example, mch editing were popular on 965 to get a boost. But maybe that was not all, maybe there is more. The fact is that many people don't know that. And as far as I know OPB had a good contact with Oscar Wu and we all know who he is :)

But will stress this again, I am not defending anyone here, just stating that there certainly are more advanced tweaks/changes that can be done.
06-18-2009, 04:39 AM
before

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Originally Posted by kiwi

Not defending anyone but you do remember performance bios where you could get way better 1M time? Initially nobody knew about it :)

And who said that similar bios/MCH bar/spd or whatever modifications cant be done? For example, mch editing were popular on 965 to get a boost. But maybe that was not all, maybe there is more. The fact is that many people don't know that. And as far as I know OPB had a good contact with Oscar Wu and we all know who he is :)

But will stress this again, I am not defending anyone here, just stating that there certainly are more advanced tweaks/changes that can be done.

Woot... then we have to congratulate him for P965 memory controller hub tweaking? :D I know quite well how this came on the scene, and nobody else was aware of the involved registers before this was shown publicly. The fact that Monteboy created an app that uses few of these modifications doesn't mean that the discovery came form OCX. There are certainly lots of talented guys there, but nobody from there is involved in this discovery.

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