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09-19-2008, 02:33 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mekrel

Either way, I'm going to apologise to you for going off on one, I just thought your post was very condescending. Plus I'm not particularly in a good mood, a certain someone has had £200.00 worth of computer case of mine from 3 months yet doesn't seem to want to respond to my emails or PM's about the status of the mods being done. :shakes:

nah its cool.

And ouch about the troll.
09-19-2008, 04:02 PM
BreeSpree

I mean it's not bad, but I don't want to deal with all that LED wire crap. Maybe if the LED's were built in to the pump's 12 volt power source. And, without the LED's well, its nothing special, in fact it looks kind of ugly =[
09-19-2008, 04:38 PM
DeathWalking

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGanG

Looks like a supernova-hotchocolade pump ;)

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4...375644iwm2.jpg

Holy hell that's an ugly picture. Did you have to replace the LED(s?) with a brighter one?
09-19-2008, 04:46 PM
alejo

I'm going to go against the grain and say I kinda like the look. It reminds me of the buildings that the Doozers would build on Fraggle Rock. Any child of the 80's would know what I'm talking about. :p:
09-19-2008, 05:02 PM
TedShred

Quote:

Originally Posted by alejo

I'm going to go against the grain and say I kinda like the look. It reminds me of the buildings that the Doozers would build on Fraggle Rock. Any child of the 80's would know what I'm talking about. :p:

:rofl:

Alas, I know what you mean:(
09-19-2008, 06:12 PM
iandh

Quote:

Originally Posted by alejo

I'm going to go against the grain and say I kinda like the look. It reminds me of the buildings that the Doozers would build on Fraggle Rock. Any child of the 80's would know what I'm talking about. :p:

Now that you said fraggle rock this top suddenly looks quite acceptable. I may have to get one and then stand a little model of a doozer with a construction hat on top of it.

Now wouldn't that be a sick case mod theme... fraggle rock! I call dibs none of you take my idea!!!
09-19-2008, 10:00 PM
headala

....uh...any more performance data on the top? :(
09-19-2008, 11:49 PM
Duniek

dunno why but I like it, lol
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really (and I am not drunk)
09-20-2008, 12:41 AM
Fr3ak

I didnt' read any of the previous posts, actually I did, but they didn't have much to do with the headline of this thread. I had the pleasure to test the first prototyp of the TFC Reflector. I compared it to the Alphacool top with and without reservoir, the Watercool top and the Watercool Dual DDC top. With just the DDC-1T, the flowmeter and a Swiftech reservoir in the loop, the TFC top was slightly better than the Dual DDC top (using 2 pumps). In a loop with a lot of restrictive coolers (CPU, NB, VGA, radiator) the TFC top performed on par with the Alphacool top, being slightly worse than the Watercool top. That was the first prototype.

No idea why people moan about the looks. It looks different, but not ugly. Don't tell me the plexi block of the Alphacool top looks better.. I thought this is XtremeSystems and not XtremeOhLookMyHardwareLooksPimp ;)

Not to mention all the extras that TFC includes in the packaging. Price/performance wise, the top is a killer, at least in Germany.
09-20-2008, 02:48 AM
b@llz0r

lol :rofl: i just think its funny that so many people turned on this pump top without waiting for performance results

so much for the dog turd

:down:
09-20-2008, 04:24 AM
bundymania

I agree with Fr3ak ! The Top looks different but not bad at all ! :) I tested the prototype against some other Tops (Watercool/Alphacool, OCLabs) The Feser Reflector had about ~10 Liter/h. better flow and the overall quality is good. For about 20 Bucks you also get 2 Fittings, Leds and an O-Ring. So i think the "package" is ok !

http://www.abload.de/thumb/img_37207i1.jpg
09-20-2008, 04:35 AM
Lloyd

Has this been released yet?
09-20-2008, 04:39 AM
bundymania

nope, i got info from feser...within september / october.
09-20-2008, 06:09 AM
Lloyd

cool, i'm goona get one and have a look i think
09-20-2008, 06:46 AM
Lloyd

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Originally Posted by RealRedRaider

I won't be buying one, especially since it performs on par with the Alphacool top. That means my XSPC res tops kick it. In Martins testing the Alphacool top was inferior to the XSPC tops...:)

Oh, i doubt i'll use it i just want to have a look
09-20-2008, 11:02 AM
[XC] riptide

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Originally Posted by mcoffey

Good move and thanks,

Going back and forth arguing pasonatley is one thing, but threats and such have no place in a thread IMO

Again, good work.

andy

Thanks Andy. Its appreciated. Now... wheres me OCZ block review? :D:D ;)
09-20-2008, 12:11 PM
[XC] riptide

Thread closed. May be reopened after cleanup.
09-21-2008, 06:21 AM
[XC] riptide

Right, thread cleaned up somewhat.. I cannot send PM's to everyones post I deleted (~85 lol), so... thanks for understanding.

KEEP THIS ON TOPIC MEN. Need MOAR retina burning photos and results!
09-21-2008, 07:40 AM
Fr3ak

I start with posting my test results:

Flowmeter: Digmesa FHKUC 70 connected to a Aqua Computer Aquaero
Pump: Laing DDC-1T

Setup: 10/8mm tubing with Innovatek fittings, Swiftech MCRES and the flowmeter for the high flow test; Alphacool XP Bold, Watercool Heatkiller 2.5, Aqua Computer Aquagrafx for 8800 GT, Watercool HTSF Dual, flowmeter, 10/8 mm tubing, Innovatek fittings; room temperature 23 C.

Alphacool DDC top: Highflow/Front: 6.69 l/min; Highflow/Top: 6.93 l/min; Loop/Front: 2.31 l/min; Loop/Top: 2.38 l/min
TFC Reflector (prototype): Highflow/Front: not possible; Highflow/Top: 7.61 l/min l/min; Loop/Front: not possible; Loop/Top: 2.38 l/min
Watercool DDC Case: Highflow/Front: 6.51 l/min; Highflow/Top: 7.04 l/min; Loop/Front: 2.40 l/min; Loop/Top: 2.50 l/min
Watercool Dual DDC Case: Highflow/Front: 7.47 l/min; Highflow/Top: not possible; Loop/Front: 3.24 l/min; Loop/Top: not possible

All test were performaned at the same room temperature and the setup/tubing lenght and curves were identical. From the consisty of the testing I assume, there is a error margin of 0.1 to 0.2 l/min. The tests were performed with the first prototype that wsa produced. I will be testing the retail version as soon as it's out.
09-21-2008, 10:18 AM
bentleya

Below are quotes that a TFC employee said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bentleya

This time we want to announce that we are builing The Reflector, which will be an outstanding Waterpump Top for all available Laing DDC Models. Also for the Swiftech models which are known in the scene as renamed/relabeled Laing pumps.

The Reflector will be made out of PMMA acrylic transparent material and will have following Features:

1. 4 LED Mounting Holes
2. LED Module with 2 LEDs will be included in the package
3. G1/4" Threads for good compatibility
4. Additional Oring
5. 4x M4 Screws for Mounting the Top onto the pump
6. 2x M3 Screws for Mounting our STar Holder System.
7. 2x Star Holder 51 mm for the 5 1/4" PC slot
8. 2x Star Holder 29 mm for the 3 1/2" PC slot

The Star Holder System gives you the ability to install the top + pump in the air within either floppy or cd-drive slot.

You also can shorten the length of the Star Holders for your needs.

We designed an elipse chamber which speeds up the impeller like a turbo.
The inlet and outlet diameters were maximized.
We deisgned the 4 foot stands like the original top and maximized the material around the m4 threads.

The Top wil be tested by Laing itself and we dont release the top unless Laing has certified this top.

few more revision have been made to the top Updates on the Refelctor have been made.

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Originally Posted by bentleya

1. G1/4 Thread update
2. Metalic foot stands to prevent breaking of the material - Now M3 Screws will be used for mounting the item on the laing pump.
3. Waterchamber has been updated for better flow
4. The Mold itself has been polished. Thus the item is now in absolute clear.

so below is pictures of new test top, and the mould :D

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...eflector-7.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...eflector-8.jpg
09-21-2008, 10:32 AM
Fr3ak

Maybe you should state that your text is a quote from a TFC employee in order not to confuse people..
09-21-2008, 11:01 AM
bentleya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fr3ak

Maybe you should state that your text is a quote from a TFC employee in order not to confuse people..

good idea sorted :D
09-21-2008, 04:54 PM
Lloyd

I'm really looking forward to seeing this released so i can have a proper look :up:
09-21-2008, 05:39 PM
Stealth42o

Quote:

Originally Posted by alejo

It reminds me of the buildings that the Doozers would build on Fraggle Rock. Any child of the 80's would know what I'm talking about. :p:

Jesus that made my day! :rofl::yepp::ROTF::up:

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