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08-07-2008, 07:12 AM
REVHEAD

Ok its still doing the constant Rebooting, with memory installed and not installed. I am getting no Beeps or error codes. When I unplugged the 8 pin CPU power cable the machine stays powerd on .

Has any one Else had this problem and found a fix?

Time for me to go to bed now I think , spent 2 much time on it already and if I keep going ill end up smashing it lol.
08-07-2008, 07:58 AM
Chri$ch

@ eternal_fantasy

ok, it was a NB Temp problem....

short test after changing the thermal paste...

http://www.abload.de/img/600fsbv6k.png

http://www.abload.de/img/dscf8032lcr.jpg
08-07-2008, 08:19 AM
eternal_fantasy

Quote:

Originally Posted by REVHEAD

Ok its still doing the constant Rebooting, with memory installed and not installed. I am getting no Beeps or error codes. When I unplugged the 8 pin CPU power cable the machine stays powerd on .

Has any one Else had this problem and found a fix?

Time for me to go to bed now I think , spent 2 much time on it already and if I keep going ill end up smashing it lol.

Can you try putting just one stick of memory on the last slot, and just plug in the graphics and the CPU, and see if you get a screen when powered on? also you can try changing the jumpers for the BIOS on the motherboard so you boot from the second BIOS chip. How to do that is in the manual. Last resort, try another PSU, as just by plugging the CPU power the system sould not be on. The light pulsing of the power button or the ROG logo does NOT mean the motherboard is on, it just means that the motherboard has power. Good luck! :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

@ eternal_fantasy

ok, it was a NB Temp problem....

short test after changing the thermal paste...

Great you have found the problem! :up: keep testing and post back your results.
08-07-2008, 08:40 AM
stealth

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

ok, it was a NB Temp problem....

short test after changing the thermal paste...

What NB temp you get after changing the thermal paste?

stealth
08-07-2008, 09:24 AM
rob2k

Just testing mine now that the new memory has arrived :)

NB temp is reading 67 in the bios. I'm on air but have fitted the heat pipe cooler as supplied with the Mobo. Can't really see the point of me using AS5 to fit the larger heatsinks if the paste Asus use doesn't match up with the time and D&D Asus spent putting this board together !.

For those who have done this is it ok to re-use the thermal tape on the mosfets ?, other options are new tape or much thicker thermal paste ?.

Thanks as always.

Will post results when I get something that looks stable but N/B temp may become an issue ..............
08-07-2008, 09:46 AM
eternal_fantasy

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob2k

Just testing mine now that the new memory has arrived :)

NB temp is reading 67 in the bios. I'm on air but have fitted the heat pipe cooler as supplied with the Mobo. Can't really see the point of me using AS5 to fit the larger heatsinks if the paste Asus use doesn't match up with the time and D&D Asus spent putting this board together !.

For those who have done this is it ok to re-use the thermal tape on the mosfets ?, other options are new tape or much thicker thermal paste ?.

Thanks as always.

Will post results when I get something that looks stable but N/B temp may become an issue ..............

Yes the mosfet thermal tape is reuseable, but I would recommend removing the thermal pad on the 3 phase power delivery with some none conductive paste.

67C?? thats mighty high! how much VMCH are you putting through it?

edit: So from what you wrote did you take the stock cooling off? sounds like no, but why the question about mosfet thermal tape?
08-07-2008, 10:17 AM
rob2k

Hi EF, NB volts is 1.52 in the bios - not sure if that is VMCH ?.

I have used the larger optional heat sinks as supplied and used AS5 on those but did not remove the whole heat pipe assembly which I did on my SIIE and probably should have done here. The thermal tape in question is under the heatsinks that have the red metal cap on them so maybe I have the incorrect name for those chips.

Thanks for your help :up:
08-07-2008, 10:32 AM
NiscoRacing

Here are mine pic's

http://members.lycos.nl/niscoracing/...B_Heatsink.jpg
NB_SB

http://members.lycos.nl/niscoracing/..._WC_Cooler.jpg
NB_WC

http://members.lycos.nl/niscoracing/...e/NB_naked.jpg
NB_naked

http://members.lycos.nl/niscoracing/...e/SB_naked.jpg
SB_naked

So now i am looking if mine old striker 1 WC blocks gone fit
08-07-2008, 11:18 AM
eternal_fantasy

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob2k

Hi EF, NB volts is 1.52 in the bios - not sure if that is VMCH ?.

I have used the larger optional heat sinks as supplied and used AS5 on those but did not remove the whole heat pipe assembly which I did on my SIIE and probably should have done here. The thermal tape in question is under the heatsinks that have the red metal cap on them so maybe I have the incorrect name for those chips.

Thanks for your help :up:

Yes, the Northbridge is also know as MCH :D

When you talked about if the thermal tape is reuseable was it because in case you want to remove the stock cooling? But you haven't actually removed it?

To be honest 67C is much too high for a X48 chipset... at this temperature more voltage will not benefit stability. Is your system stable at this temperature? And what setting are you running at that needs 1.52v in the NB?
08-07-2008, 11:30 AM
rob2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy

Yes, the Northbridge is also know as MCH :D

When you talked about if the thermal tape is reuseable was it because in case you want to remove the stock cooling? But you haven't actually removed it?

Thanks - not heard MCH before ;)

Was asking about thermal tape in case I should replace it after removing and refitting the stock heat pipe assembly as I guess it should compress a little initially to ensure a good contact area.

VMCH :up: setting is that high to try and raise FSB and memory to decent speed with quad but not having much success at the mo. Was starting with high settings hoping to get some good results and stable system and then creep them down a little at a time.

Will probably knock it on the head soon and introduce myself to the g/f before she blows a gasket :peace:
08-07-2008, 07:30 PM
T_M

Probably too low NB volts chri$ch.
Try putting 1.5-1.6V and see how that changes things ;)

edit: nvm i read the rest of the thread now...
08-08-2008, 12:06 AM
REVHEAD

Thanks for your help guys really appreciate it, unfortunantly my rig refused to boot no matter what, I guess it was DOA and this is a first for me.

I finally got my old rig backtogether, I dont have the luxuary of owning a second pc, I think I need to get a laptop for things like this and I am back online, what a drama with all the water cooling changeovers I have had. I guess I will have to do a RMA? never done one before antything I should know before hand?

once again thanks guys.
08-08-2008, 01:42 AM
rob2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMK

Very interesting Eternal. What Thermalright mosfet coolers did u use? I have an HR09S Type 2 and an HR09U Type 2 sat here... any chance they would fit? Also I have an MCW30 (which fit on my rampage formula actually) and an EK S-max too... same question really... u think they will do the job?

Link to Thermalright page showing compatibility :-
http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_pa.../05-09-mcl.htm

Type 2's are good :)

Toying with replacing the heatpipe assembly completely so looking to fit those also but I'll be on air so will also utilise Thermalright HR-05/IFX North bridge cooler but still need some ideas for South bridge and the small chips to the left of the NB. Looking at EF's pictures for ideas.

Hmmm - slight flaw......serious space issues with TRUE120 so back to Arctic Silver 5 on stock heat pipe assembly.
08-08-2008, 03:10 AM
eternal_fantasy

Quote:

Originally Posted by REVHEAD

Thanks for your help guys really appreciate it, unfortunantly my rig refused to boot no matter what, I guess it was DOA and this is a first for me.

I finally got my old rig backtogether, I dont have the luxuary of owning a second pc, I think I need to get a laptop for things like this and I am back online, what a drama with all the water cooling changeovers I have had. I guess I will have to do a RMA? never done one before antything I should know before hand?

once again thanks guys.

Damn unlucky dude.. just make sure you phone them up and tell them what happened, and make sure you pack the motherboard properly!

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob2k

Toying with replacing the heatpipe assembly completely so looking to fit those also but I'll be on air so will also utilise Thermalright HR-05/IFX North bridge cooler but still need some ideas for South bridge and the small chips to the left of the NB. Looking at EF's pictures for ideas.

Hmmm - slight flaw......serious space issues with TRUE120 so back to Arctic Silver 5 on stock heat pipe assembly.

On the southbridge any odd heatsink, mine was taken from an old P5B Deluxe will be more then enough to cool the southbridge.. even if you stick 4 of THESE, it will be great. I'm guessing the TRUE is in conflict with the MOSFET sink? you can try THESE, they should be low enough to avoid the TRUE, and look amazing. As long as you orient the TRUE to blow the air upwards, there shouldn't be any conflict with the NB, and if blowing the air to the back you may need to play around... I used THESE for the northbridge MOSFETs, and have ordered THIS from the states and will get rid of the hideous Zalman aluminum ramsinks. :D

Have a play around.. the improvement in temperature will be very much worth the investment. :up:

BTW, I guess you replaced the stock cooling paste with AS5? Hows the temp now? Any improvement?
08-08-2008, 03:27 AM
rob2k

Quote:

Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy

Have a play around.. the improvement in temperature will be very much worth the investment. :up:

Thanks for the links EF :up: , You got it spot on. If I cool my board on air there is a compromise between what M/B sinks I can fit with the TRUE120 although I could probably use my Zalman CNPS9500.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy

BTW, I guess you replaced the stock cooling paste with AS5? Hows the temp now? Any improvement?

Hope to do this this afternoon if the missus doesn't have any other plans. If this does the trick then I'll be happy - looking for temps below 60. If not then it will be time to look at other ideas and maybe a compact W/C kit just for the CPU.

Is your rig in a case or flat on a table ?, also, I guess you are ordering from the US to take advantage of the exchange rate ;)
08-08-2008, 06:34 AM
eternal_fantasy

Naa it's inside a Zalman Z-Machine-1000:

http://gallery.me.com/jeffrey_lee/10...12182057510001

http://gallery.me.com/jeffrey_lee/10...12182057570001

I ordered from the US cos they are out of stock here in the UK :D
It really don't cost that much cheaper, and takes around 10 working days to get here :rolleyes:
08-08-2008, 06:44 AM
Vivi

that
is
the
coolest
pic
ever
+
good
mobo!

Looks awesome dude wd!
08-08-2008, 06:57 AM
Lloyd

so have Asus cemented this heatpipe assembly on? Like thaey did with the maximus extreme? ie do i need to heat it up first?
08-08-2008, 08:54 AM
BustaH

Quote:

Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy

So to custom watercool your Rampage Extreme, it is basically the same as the Maximus/Rampage Formula series, but you may want to also consider cooling the power delivery system of the NB, as it tends to get pretty hot with the 3 phase/15 mosfet design (8 front, 7 back).

What's the difference from watercooling with the Fusion block compared to what I have now I hear you ask? Before this makeover I cannot put in more then 1.65V into the NB without the RE refusing to boot, and at that voltage the NB, when under load, goes up to 60C+. Now however, at 1.7V the NB temp is kept nice n cool at under 42C under load, and plenty of room to go higher without cooking the board. That means longer component life and higher stability!!:up:

http://gallery.me.com/jeffrey_lee/10...12176099890001

Awesome info eternal, I for one will be following your guide here when modding my board when it arrives, much appreciated. you too 3oh6. +10 from me.:clap:
08-08-2008, 09:18 AM
eternal_fantasy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vivi2

that
is
the
coolest
pic
ever
+
good
mobo!

Looks awesome dude wd!

Thanks! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lloyd

so have Asus cemented this heatpipe assembly on? Like thaey did with the maximus extreme? ie do i need to heat it up first?

No need, they used thermal paste similer in texture to MX-2, so just undo the screws and the stock cooling should become loose.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bustamove44

Awesome info eternal, I for one will be following your guide here when modding my board when it arrives, much appreciated. you too 3oh6. +10 from me.:clap:

Thanks, and glad to be of help! :D
Please post back your results when you get your board. :up:

Where did 3oh6 go BTW? :confused: Hes been gone for a few days...
08-08-2008, 09:33 AM
maxxx

Finally had the nerve to take the heatpipe assembly out and change the TIM. Unfortunately, it made the NB temps worse. I did notice that the screws holding the heat pipe is not as tight as it should. I'll let the new TIM I applied to settle in for a bit. If it doesn't change, gonna rip it apart again.

Here are some photos after I took it apart.

After removing the heatpipe
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5776/web2ei7.jpg

The NB
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5669/web1oa8.jpg

This is the copper for the SB. Check out the craftsmanship.... :D
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5445/web3ej7.jpg
08-08-2008, 09:45 AM
BustaH

Quote:

Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy

Thanks! :D

No need, they used thermal paste similer in texture to MX-2, so just undo the screws and the stock cooling should become loose.

Thanks, and glad to be of help! :D
Please post back your results when you get your board. :up:

Where did 3oh6 go BTW? :confused: Hes been gone for a few days...

Will do ET will be getting some sub zero action into this baby.:D
08-08-2008, 02:25 PM
3oh6

Quote:

Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy

Where did 3oh6 go BTW? :confused: Hes been gone for a few days...

i'm here...16-18 hour work days this week to make up for my previous 3 weeks off. needless to say, i haven't had a lot of time to mess with the board. i should be back on track this week.

i am finishing off the standard testing for the review this week and then will get crazy with the board tackling stock cooling on the NB and going cold with the CPU. i am also expecting some GPUs anytime this week so i should have some CF 4850 numbers soon enough.
08-08-2008, 03:45 PM
Lloyd

Quote:

Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy

Thanks! :D
No need, they used thermal paste similer in texture to MX-2, so just undo the screws and the stock cooling should become loose

Fantastic, thanks very much for your help :up:
08-09-2008, 12:44 AM
maxxx

Guys, is the ASUS PC Probe II software close to the mark when reading NB and SB temps? After I added some tension to the screws holding the heat pipe assembly, I got low NB temps, which I can't believe its that low. Check out the readings on the screenshot on the right side (thats on idle, used to be 49c to 51c on idle). Any temp monitoring software you guys can suggest?

Had to change the image to a link, its too big. http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/74/screen1uj2.jpg

A run with an E8600
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/8466/cpuzlz5.jpg

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