nvidia price dropQuote:
Originally Posted by Orbitech
That €500+ price tag is coming down HARD!:clap::clap::clap:
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nvidia price dropQuote:
Originally Posted by Orbitech
That €500+ price tag is coming down HARD!:clap::clap::clap:
First post Tagasur.. Wow I'm honored for the first reply.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tagasur
Agreed.. It has never happened b4 in such a limited timeframe.. Competition.. :)
Then again till the next high end single chip my options are limited.. I could have just waited for a few more days and not buy from day 1.. But I'll never regret for the money that I spend.. ;)
I too am very excited for the added competition as it allows me to get another, maybe 2 more gtx 280s.
orbitech, you're my first time.. lol so gay. but anyway, you're purchase isn't that bad at all, at least you got in on the good stuff way ahead of most of us. as for me, if the gtx280 drops to around 300, im choosing it over the HD4870. although ati does have very good hardware, their drivers really haven't caught up yet. if i understand it correctly, games still do play better on nvidia cards.
That's your contribution to the ATI R700 Preview thread... :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkatom
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Originally Posted by Darkatom
lol :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Unbornchild
That's due to nvidia working closely with developers, not the drivers. It's frustrating to see people say 'ATI drivers are bad' based upon stigma and hearsay.Quote:
Originally Posted by tagasur
Only downside is power consumption, everything else is more than I could have imagined this time last year.
One card nearly 3 times faster in COD4 @ 2560 X 1600 than the mighty 8800gtx
..is the 4870X2 capable of 3xfire? 3 cards at 400w/card=1.5kW?
i need a new psu, i still have a 425w enermax. cant even hope to run just 1 card on this. lol!
re: cegras/ thank you for clarifying my perception about ati drivers.
Honestly how did u come up with that? :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by tagasur
And plz enable the sarcasm detector.. ;)
Actually I don't care what others think of my purchasing choices but if I had to "judge" my investment this particular time I'd say it was completely mistimed.Quote:
but anyway, you're purchase isn't that bad at all, at least you got in on the good stuff way ahead of most of us. as for me, if the gtx280 drops to around 300, im choosing it over the HD4870. although ati does have very good hardware, their drivers really haven't caught up yet. if i understand it correctly, games still do play better on nvidia cards.
And I don't see why someone shouldn't take a 4870 instead of a GTX280 unless he was looking for particular benefits that he can find on GTX280 (mem bandwidth, framebuffer/bit bus, raw power etc).. :up:
That's it 4 me.. Back to the topic too much OT BS..
I've seen the 4870 in action it's a very good card and the opengl drivers are faster and their drivers support soft particles.Quote:
Originally Posted by cegras
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviewim...hs/cod1920.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviewim...hs/hl21920.jpg
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Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
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Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
:shrug:
ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 Graphics Card Preview
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/745/1/
OMG. So what they had 2 of the games I listed. I listed those and I already knew about that article. Now your just being silly and spamming. I stated those in a random order, because that's I put them together, Because out of mainly all benchmarks had none of those games in them. Learn to read will ya? before you make these types of posts. In the same post you quoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by villa1n
Now your just wasting my time.Quote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
It's interesting you could infer that in most benchmarks GTX 280's AVG FPS is higher. I couldnt, no matter how hard I try.
I m actually fairly comfortable with my ability to read and interpret data. That actually was the point of my post, since you have been all over this read as I have been reading through, backtracking and making statements that don't add up.Quote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
You said the r700 may get higher max fps, but its average that counts, as well you said you would expect to see those other games in a review..i combined those two points to illustrate nicely that they have been covered, and that your bs about the gtx having higher average fps, was just that, bs.
I think for the most part, not reading through all the reviews posted properly, then posting and making claims without reading first would qualify as wasting people's times, as wouldn't those conjectures then be uninformed opinions. Mainly i just read through this thread, and noticed you stomping around shouting nvidia, so i thought it might be apt to point out some of the short comings of your post.
Back on topic... for the most part, the r700 nicely beats the gtx, even the FTL edition, in most benchmarks. And i for one am excited to see with powerplay enabled and third party cooling, what this card is really capable of. It will be a nice upgrade from my gx2 as nvidia dropped the ball this round. plain and simple.and if you want to argue, explain to me, that the 20% price drop in less than a month isn't compensation for lack of competitive performance..
Most of the games you complain are actualy in other reviews. Open that Up.Quote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
I hope that I´m not making a surprise to you, but guess what?
R700 beat GTX280 by far margin in overall :cool:
Exactly, Warboy has no point. You guys even proved that both R700 and 4870 CF have a much higher minimum and average FPS than GTX280 in some of the games that he thought were most relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Warboy, please stop shaming Michigan... :shakes:
Why the hell do they bother benching 1280x1024? :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by end3rkid
Does the target market for a $500 video card still have 17" monitors?
Actually, you are wasting time for the rest of us. If Nvidia had even 10% of the confidence in the GTX 280 that you do Warboy, it wouldn't be $200 cheaper less than 2 weeks into launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by [cTx]Warboy
The 4870X2's AA performance is unmatched, especially with the free 8xaa feature available on many games. The only thing that need to be worked out are the drivers, which is understandable, seeing as the card is still a month away from launch, so relax and come back when official reviews are out.
The GTX 280 Extreme will be out by then at the same price range and the winner will be known.
Perkam
Format: R700:GTX280 or R700:280SLI:280 or R700:280HC:280, labeled at the first bench of the site.Quote:
DH:
cod4:
19x12, 25x16: r700 ~ 1.5gtx
WIC:
19x12, r700:gtx 103:64
25x16, 61:44
HL2:EP2:
19x12, 159:112
25x16, 110:69
crysis, vh:
! 12x76, 44:48
PCPer:
bioshock:
25x16, 81:60
cod4:
20x15, 115:84
crysis, h:
19x12, 40:32
3DMV, x:
6818:4765 (gpu scores)
Anand:
conan:
25x16, 44:37.2:22.7 (r700:280SLI:280)
crysis, high/vhigh..weird:
19x12, 39:51:34
oblivion:
25x16, 50:63:36
GRID:
25x16, 84:68:40
HARD(can't access site atm)
techreport:
hl2:ep2:
16x10: 134:118:107
19x12: 122:115:92
25x16: 84:107:65
et:qw:
16x10: 122:118:112
19x12: 119:117:103
25x16: 100:111:74
crysis, high then very high:
! 19x12: 30:38:30
19x12: 24:27:20
GRID:
19x12: 111:91:67
extech:
3dmv:
H: 9744:7162
X: 6924:4873
crysis, 14x9, 14x9 4xaa, 19x12, 19x12 4xaa:
!! 46:52, 43:47, 44:40, 41:31
WIC, 16x10, +4aa16af, 19x12, +4aa16af:
! 46:51, 44:39, 46:41, 42:36
COHeros, 16x10, +4aa, 19x12, +4aa:
98:81, 95:70, 90:53, 86:46
Hexus:
3dmv:
default: 12899:10150
COH, 4xaa:
16x10: 179:173
19x12: 162:152
25x16: 119:101
et:qw, 4aa, 16af:
! 16x10: 96:99
19x12: 91:86
25x16: 68:57
crysis:
! 16x10: 28:36
19x12: 28:32
lPlanet:EC, 4aa16af:
16x10: 55:47
19x12: 45:38
muropaketti:
3d06:
def: 16093:14530
3dmv:
X: 6882:4829
P: 11046:8799
crysis, high:
16x12: 41:39
Ass.Creed, high, 4aa16af:
19x12: 53:49
WIC, 4aa16af,vhigh:
19x12: 47:41
GRID, 4aa 16af high:
19x12: 75:68
Legit:
COH:
! 12x10: 103:113:104 (r700:gtxHC:gtx)
19x12: 83:74:67
stalker:
12x10: 243:218:200
19x12: 216:163:148
crysis:
! 12x10H: 35:38:37
! 19x12M: 40:47:44
19x12VH: 27:24:21
3dmV:
12x10: 14017:11008:9854 (GPU score)
that's all of the sites, except for Hocp, cause I can't get to it.
extra info: I rounded down for everything (except for one of the 280 scores somewhere, i went up, cause it was rly close)
Do you see all of the exclamation points on the left? Those are when r700 loses to a single gtx280 (HC or not).
check this out:
R700 Losses vs total tests for that site:
1/7
0/4
0/4
1/9
3/14
2/11
0/7
3/8
grand total: 10/64.
R700 loses only 10 times of 64 tests to the GTX280
It is safe to say based on these results, 4870X2 > GTX280 :D
& there we have it folks! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by m0da
thanks for that! muchly appreciated! :bows:
Since no new games to miss with :D
i think better to wait a while to see the new card from nVidia G3xx
im sure it will turns the 4870X2 into parts :yepp::yepp:
I think Perkam nail it, there's no way nVidia would SIGNIFICANTLY lower their pricing policy over their GT200 cards if ATi counterparts are not highly competitive. It's basically comparable to HD 2900 XT launch, with opposite implication -ATi had to lower the new SKU MSRP since it rather sucked and not competitive back then.
Have you played around with your time machine ? I need some info regarding the stock & commodity market, my friend. :ROTF:Quote:
Since no new games to miss with
i think better to wait a while to see the new card from nVidia G3xx
im sure it will turns the 4870X2 into parts
Font Size pls :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by m0da
Looking forward to how these clocks and if AMD has enabled individual core clocks like the Phenom series.
Perkam