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06-19-2008, 08:30 AM
Hornet331

lol, nehalem is a multithreading beast. :shock:
06-19-2008, 08:34 AM
savantu

We desperately need memory benchmarks. :)

Run stream , it's a tiny program which should run no matter what.Used for testing the memory system of computers ranging from desktops to servers with thousands of CPUs.

http://www.cs.virginia.edu/stream/FT...32/wstream.exe

You'll need to open the command console ( remember where you saved it ) and type wstream <core frequency , 2933 this case > < iterations , try with 1 , 4 and 8 >.

Something like this c:\...desktop\wstream 2933 4

*I've noticed you're running single channel mode.
06-19-2008, 08:36 AM
savantu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornet331

lol, nehalem is a multithreading beast. :shock:

Damn incredible I'd say.The performance is astounding.
06-19-2008, 08:38 AM
metro.cl

Those Wprime benchs are really impresive, compare to a QX9650 below:

So your 2.93GHz (with dual channel?), beat my result at 4.2GHz with Dual Channel (by a fair margin)

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7...24m4200id4.jpg

this Nehalem is going to be a monster in multi-threaded apps even if it only does 3.6GHz on air.
06-19-2008, 01:22 PM
sdsdv10

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCornell

Thought you never ask :ROTF:
<snip screen shot>

...

Thanks for all the benchmarks JC. I was going to buil d a Q67000 or Q9450 system for video editing, but now I will wait for Nehalem. As others have noted, this looks like it will be a great multi-thread chip. Just what I am looking for to run Sony Movie Studio (which can generate upto 4 threads :up: )
06-19-2008, 01:27 PM
Neuuubeh

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdsdv10

Thanks for all the benchmarks JC. I was going to buil d a Q67000 or Q9450 system for video editing, but now I will wait for Nehalem. As others have noted, this looks like it will be a great multi-thread chip. Just what I am looking for to run Sony Movie Studio (which can generate upto 4 threads :up: )

Can you wait that long :p. I'm toying with the idea of building a cheapie 24/7 render slave, looks like CPU's are getting cheaper :). Nehalem looks tempting, however I cant really believe we'd be able to find it available any time soon after release :(
06-19-2008, 02:07 PM
Horus´

Quote:

Originally Posted by metro.cl

Those Wprime benchs are really impresive, compare to a QX9650 below:

So your 2.93GHz (with dual channel?), beat my result at 4.2GHz with Dual Channel (by a fair margin)
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this Nehalem is going to be a monster in multi-threaded apps even if it only does 3.6GHz on air.

I think that would be a dream, we should not have to much high hopes on their first true quad core :D
06-19-2008, 02:10 PM
metro.cl

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horus´

I think that would be a dream, we should not have to much high hopes on their first true quad core :D

It will release at 3.2GHz so 3.6GHz shouldnt be that hard ;)
06-19-2008, 05:42 PM
JumpingJack

Quote:

Originally Posted by savantu

Nehalem at 2.93GHz runs wPrime 32M with the speed of a QX9650 at ~ 4.4GHz.

That's 50% clock/clock advantage in this multithreaded test.

Yup... just about 50%:

http://www.xcpus.com/gallery/d/6740-2/9650_2_93G.PNG
06-19-2008, 06:28 PM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horus´

I think that would be a dream, we should not have to much high hopes on their first true quad core :D

Dewd, true Quad is Quad=P Doesn't matter if it is Monolithic or MCM, it is still Quad. The whole "True Quad Core" was crap and nothing more than Marketing Hype or a Gimmick.
06-19-2008, 06:48 PM
JumpingJack

When I did my back of the envelop calculation, I used the 32M numbers... so here is what I get...

For Nehalem @ 2.93G
32M = 9.218 Secs
For Yorkie @ 2.93G
32M = 13.859

This translates to a increase in speed of 50.3% (these are time to complete so you need to take [(1/slower)-(1/faster)]/(1/slower) to calculate the actual rate, or you could convert into digitis per second and then it calculates out like FPS in game).

For Nehalem @ 2.93 G
1024M = 288.937
For Yorkie @ 2.93 G
1024M = 439.39

This translates to about 52% speed improvement.

This is estimated because I am using 1.58 Wprime, JC is using 1.55 Wprime.

Jack
06-19-2008, 07:26 PM
villa1n

wow, this is dropping some amazing numbers!!!! too bad we have to wait till q1 09 for retail :(

Thanks for the tests JC, we all appreciate it :up:
06-19-2008, 08:44 PM
virtualrain

Quote:

Originally Posted by JumpingJack

When I did my back of the envelop calculation, I used the 32M numbers... so here is what I get...

For Nehalem @ 2.93G
32M = 9.218 Secs
For Yorkie @ 2.93G
32M = 13.859

This translates to a increase in speed of 50.3% (these are time to complete so you need to take [(1/slower)-(1/faster)]/(1/slower) to calculate the actual rate, or you could convert into digitis per second and then it calculates out like FPS in game).

For Nehalem @ 2.93 G
1024M = 288.937
For Yorkie @ 2.93 G
1024M = 439.39

This translates to about 52% speed improvement.

This is estimated because I am using 1.58 Wprime, JC is using 1.55 Wprime.

Jack

Thanks Jack... I realized the error of my post immediately and deleted it so it's not clear what you are responding to now... for everyone else's benefit, I was wondering how the 50% improvement was being calculated.
06-19-2008, 09:18 PM
JCornell

Quote:

Originally Posted by JumpingJack

When I did my back of the envelop calculation, I used the 32M numbers... so here is what I get...

For Nehalem @ 2.93G
32M = 9.218 Secs
For Yorkie @ 2.93G
32M = 13.859

This translates to a increase in speed of 50.3% (these are time to complete so you need to take [(1/slower)-(1/faster)]/(1/slower) to calculate the actual rate, or you could convert into digitis per second and then it calculates out like FPS in game).

For Nehalem @ 2.93 G
1024M = 288.937
For Yorkie @ 2.93 G
1024M = 439.39

This translates to about 52% speed improvement.

This is estimated because I am using 1.58 Wprime, JC is using 1.55 Wprime.

Jack

I thought I used v1.63 WPrime ? ...
06-19-2008, 09:21 PM
JumpingJack

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCornell

I thought I used v1.63 WPrime ? ...

:) ooops, you did.... my point, we are not using the same.... :)

Edit ... my mistake was glancing through this page and saw Metro's screen shot which is 1.55 ... sorry.

Jack
06-19-2008, 10:39 PM
mAJORD

Very impressive Wprime speeds..

Would it be possible to change the thread count in ADV settings to 1 Thread.. Then we can really see how much SMT is helping the score?
06-19-2008, 10:54 PM
Shintai

Quote:

Originally Posted by villa1n

wow, this is dropping some amazing numbers!!!! too bad we have to wait till q1 09 for retail :(

Thanks for the tests JC, we all appreciate it :up:

You mean Q4 2008...
06-19-2008, 11:27 PM
Xoulz

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoThr3k

i know nehalem exists at a freq of 3.2ghz, but i havent seen any higher clocked nehalems, altough i believe they do exist....
i know shintai has a very good knowledge about stuff, altough i dont consider him as a friend
most of the time i can agree with hem, but sometimes he's going too much to the blue side, but i respect someone's opinion (not like you)

:confused:
I'm not quite grasping your point... are you trying to say that while we currently don't know what the max Ghz Intel will release the new Nehalem @, it probably can't be faster than the current 3.2Ghz already known?

Knowing Intel always takes a conservative stance, which coincidentally has been proven by the EXTREMELY ingenious people here and elsewhere by overclocking them. Somehow, since nobody has officially posted Ghz in excess of 3.2gig, it somehow impossible or wrong to discuss them?

-Xoulz
06-20-2008, 12:21 AM
Horus´

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donnie27

Dewd, true Quad is Quad=P Doesn't matter if it is Monolithic or MCM, it is still Quad. The whole "True Quad Core" was crap and nothing more than Marketing Hype or a Gimmick.

They call it sarcasme ..
06-20-2008, 06:14 AM
sdsdv10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neuuubeh

Can you wait that long :p. I'm toying with the idea of building a cheapie 24/7 render slave, looks like CPU's are getting cheaper :). Nehalem looks tempting, however I cant really believe we'd be able to find it available any time soon after release :(

Actually I can. I just picked up a refurb Dell Optiplex 755 with a E8500 for just over $600. I tried to build something similar at Newegg, but even using the cheapest components for everything the lowest total was >$700. Plus it comes with a three year on-site (in this case, meaning at home) warranty. This will easily last me until next year until the price/supply for Nehalem has stabilized. After that, I will pass it on to my wife.
06-20-2008, 08:22 AM
Donnie27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horus´

They call it sarcasme ..

my bad:(
06-20-2008, 10:15 AM
Seraphiel

From another thread I am wondering: Is it confirmed that there will be <600$ Nehalems in Q4 2008?
06-20-2008, 10:18 AM
Shintai

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraphiel

From another thread I am wondering: Is it confirmed that there will be <600$ Nehalems in Q4 2008?

There will be 3 nehalems in Q4. 3.2, 2.93 and 2.66Ghz. The 2.66ghz should be 316$, worst case would be 540$. But 316$ is the most likely since its in the same group as a Q9550 that got a pricedrop in Q3.
06-20-2008, 10:35 AM
villa1n

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

There will be 3 nehalems in Q4. 3.2, 2.93 and 2.66Ghz. The 2.66ghz should be 316$, worst case would be 540$. But 316$ is the most likely since its in the same group as a Q9550 that got a pricedrop in Q3.

Excellent! I thoguht it was only the 3.2 bloomfields that would be avail q4 :up:
06-20-2008, 10:55 AM
Seraphiel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

There will be 3 nehalems in Q4. 3.2, 2.93 and 2.66Ghz. The 2.66ghz should be 316$, worst case would be 540$. But 316$ is the most likely since its in the same group as a Q9550 that got a pricedrop in Q3.

Thank you :)

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