i guess i found this thread a little late. I hope BenchZowner comes back soon.
i guess i found this thread a little late. I hope BenchZowner comes back soon.
I believe everyone is waiting on BenchZowner to return. He was the one providing all the advise. He has been busy running his own website but has indicated he will try to return. I for one am waiting for the suggestions however I am getting some better understanding this bios but would very much like to improve my overclocking skills especially with these new options in this bios.
Now stable mild overclock Need to drop voltage now
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Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = Corsair HX1000 ( 1000W )
CPU = Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
RAM = OCZ DDR3-1600 Platinum Edition 4GB Kit ( OCZ3P20004GK )
HDD = Western Digital Raptor ( 150GB x2 Raid 0)
VGA1 = PNY GeForce 8800GTX 768MB
VGA2 = PNY GeForce 8800GTX 768MB
VGA3 = none
BFG Ageia PhyX card
SPU ( Sound Card ) = Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS
NorthBridge Cooling = Stock cooler with custom water cooling
SouthBridge Cooling = Stock cooler
CPU Cooling = custom water cooled with Swiftech water block
RAM Cooling = none by may add a Corsair Dominator AirFlow
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = nVIDIA nFORCE Drivers v9.64
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = nVIDIA ForceWare v173.67
Sound Card Drivers Version = Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Drivers WebUpdate
BIOS version 0901
BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Synch
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1600
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1600
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Enabled
P2 = Enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 7
tRCD = 7
tRP = 7
tRAS = 24
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = auto 12
tRC = auto 41
tWR = auto 12
tWTR = auto 25
tFAW = auto 25
tRD = 15
tRTP = 15
tRFC = 255
tREF = 7.8us
Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = 1.34V
Loadline Calibration = Disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.61V
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.310V
Memory Voltage = 1.86V
NB Core Voltage = 1.61V
SB Core Voltage = 1.55V
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = +40
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = auto
CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3
CPU Core 4
Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled
Problem Description:):up:
System has been stable for a while now, no recent raid failure messages. Since I upper several voltage setting to get it stable before finding the right mix/combination I suspect some like the CPU Voltage may be too high. Today I drop the CPU voltage two notches, ran OCCT and found it to be stable. As I continue to drop the voltage given that the “right” ratio is important I was wondering what else I should drop in combination to the CPU voltage i.e. CPU PLL and or CPU VTT?
I have update my memory and also set SPP-MCP Ref Clock to 200 MHz
You're right, i should just be patient, but something that is strange about my machine's bios is that it doesn't have the CPU Level Up, it has Memory Level Up, then a space, then CPU Multiplier, but no CPU level up, i'm running revision 0901 with a Q9300, i just have no idea.
I am no expert but I have read of similar problems reported in these forums. If the problem occured after a bios flash and the user has not cleared the cmos at the time of the flash clearing the cmos and removing the battery for a short while to get a fully clear cmos has been reported to resolve such problems.
Oh yeah, so i should take the battery out for a while, and re flash the bios to 0901?
No you do not need to re-flash the bios you need to fully clear the bios. Taking the battery out does not erase the bios, your current flash will still be in effect.
oh cool, thanks a lot buddy, but can you tell me where this battery is and how i am supposed to take it out and put it back in? I don't want to do somethin wrong and lose this board.
Ok, nvm, i found it, it was under my graphics card, but now, how long should i leave it out?
Ok, just took it out and left it our for about 4 hours, then i put it back in, it hung on the bios screen twice before i left it off for a couple more hours, now it boots up, i go into the bios and it's all the same, still no CPU Level Up.
A few days ago i was freezing like everytime i booted no matter what i did, so i just decided, :banana::banana::banana::banana: it, i'll reload all defaults in bios and see what happens, i boot up and i run flawlessly for 2 days, i power down when i go to bed, but all day it would be on and running, then today at about 6:00 pm, it's been on since like noon, it freezes, so i'm like damn, i thought i had it, and it freezes again and again... useless information, just wanted to share my story.
Sorry to hear your continued problem. This board takes way too much effort to get stable. I was ready to RMA several times. It took me a week of tweaking to get it stable. I was reading threads, reviews etc to better understand all the options in this bios. Anandtech's review article and tweaking suggestions got me started did not take me far enough. BenchZower and this tread was probably the key to making my board stable. I got my e8400 stable with a mild overclock to 3.6. I am hoping to forget the frustrating week trying to get this stable so I can drum up the courage to try again a 4G. Best of luck to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambiguous411
Try the following settings ( the blue ones are the new changes )
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Originally Posted by Ambiguous411
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Originally Posted by Ambiguous411
It does support 8GBs of RAM, and Windows Vista x64 supports them as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ambiguous411
The increased number of DIMMs and the increased capacity however applies more stress to the nFORCE memory controller and thus you need to fiddle with the settings and voltages again ( once you insert the other 2 DIMMs ) and of course will "limit" your overclocks ( not that you're close to the limit now, not at all, just a note ).
Let's try to get this thing fully stable as is, and then we can proceed into making it stable with all 4 DIMMs on.
ok this is what it have come to now. i have been trying to get this pc up and running stable for almost 2 months now, and nothing seems to be helping so I am ready to try something new now. i think the problem might be the ram not beening able to run with out problems with this motherbord so i am going to buy some new ram insted and throw the old ones out into the bin.
And here is where i ask you guys to give me a hand, what ram can run flawless with this bord? i don't really care what the price is, i have been using 4,5k $ on a PC i wanna throw out the window each time it freez up.
if you think that the problem maby is something els please tell me.
system:
Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) =750 Watt Corsair TX750W
CPU =Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 2.667GHz 12MB FSB1333
RAM =Corsair XMS3 2x2GB DDR3-1333
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) =ST3500320AS
VGA1 =AS-EN9800GX2
VGA2 ( if you have ) =
VGA3 ( if you have ) =
SPU ( Sound Card ) =SupremeFX II Audio Card
NorthBridge Cooling =
SouthBridge Cooling =
CPU Cooling =Cooler Master Hyper TX2
RAM Cooling =
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version =
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version =175.19
Sound Card Drivers Version =
BIOS version 0901 REQUIRED
BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 8x
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Sync Mode
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1333
LDT Frequency = 4x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200.5MHz
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto
P2 = Auto
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 9
tRCD = 9
tRP = 9
tRAS = 24
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = 9
tRC = 41
tWR = 12
tWTR = 27
tFAW = 41
tRD = 12
tRTP = 9
tRFC = auto
tREF = Auto
Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = 1.25V
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.6V
CPU VTT Voltage = 1.2V
Memory Voltage = 1.74V
NB Core Voltage = 1.46V
SB Core Voltage = 1.55V
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto
CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Disabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
CPU Core 4 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled
Thanks a lot dude, i punched them in and will let you know how it runs. And that's good news about the ram, i was worried that i had wasted all that money on a second pair of sticks. You're right, i would much rather run stable with 4GB than snap the 8GB in and try to get that goin right now. Thanks again man, you're the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Anyone tried the new bios 1002?
Those that have, any noticeable benefit?
Took me a week to get this motherboard stable, I am not interested in updating the bios and have to possibly mess with the settings again if there is no noticeable benefit or improvement in say stability.
Nah, i heard 1002 wasn't as good as 0901, but that's not from my personal experience, if you're stable on 0901 i would suggest you stick with that, but wtf do i know.
Zowner, so far so good dude. After i punched in you're preferences i ran smoothly for the rest of the day which is better than it's done before, we'll see how it does the rest of the week but it's lookin pretty good. Thanks a bunch man.
Alright, before today my machine ran real well for a couple days, then today I was playin GRID and my game froze, but skype was still workin in the background. I tried ctrl+shift+Esc and nothin. I could alt+tab between icons, but it was stick with a black screen, with the tabs in the middle, and the start menu bar there, but i couldn't do anything. It's happened before, so there ya go.
Another video freeze. Mouse stuck, keyboard stuck, everything just stuck except my sound and skype were still workin, they could hear me talk, i could hear them. Should i try a different display driver?
I is always disappointing :shakes:when no one has anything good to say about a new bios. I am glad I am stable with a mild overclock. I would surely like to get greater stability with a real overclock i.e. 4Mhz and was hoping a new bios might help. Going thru these threads it is hard to see how this board got such a good review from Anandtech. BenchZower did warm me that this board was going to take some work. Was he ever right.
Yeah man, i'm sorry you're havin trouble with this board too. But don't listen to me, 1002 may very well be more stable with your setup. This board has been very frustrating indeed, more than I knew to expect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathspine
Ambigious, yeah trying another GeForce driver might help ( I don't remember which driver I used to "play" a bit with GRID, so I can't tell if there's an issue with GRID and the 175.19 ).
Every other program/game runs fine now ?
Just about, yeah. I froze once when i was playin WoW, same thing with the video freeze and my sound was still working, and it was after i had left it idle for a long while. But just that time in WoW, and twice in GRID are the only times it's crashed since i punched in your settings. Well those are the only times i remember. Also, my machine stutters every now and then also. I was thinking of trying the GeForce 177.35 driver, what do you think? Also, is 6.1 a good choice as the motherboard's driver?
Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = 650 watts for vga, 550 watts for mobo, antec units, Antec P190 + 1200
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=81900
CPU = INTEL quad-core 9770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115051
RAM = 4 gigs Patriot 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220278
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = western digital raptor 10k rpm 270 gb
VGA1 = EVGA 01G-P3-N891-AR GeForce 9800 GX2 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130338
VGA2 ( if you have ) = na
VGA3 ( if you have ) = na
SPU ( Sound Card ) = external
NorthBridge Cooling = none
SouthBridge Cooling = none
CPU Cooling = ZALMAN 9500A 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
RAM Cooling = none
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = latest official, 9.64
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = latest beta, 177.92
Sound Card Drivers Version = external
BIOS version 1002
BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 8
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Unlinked
FSB - Memory Ratio = auto
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1600
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1333
LDT Frequency = 5
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
Memory Timing Setting
P1 = enabled
P2 = enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 9
tRCD = 9
tRP = 9
tRAS = 21
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 1
tRRD = 4
tRC = 27
tWR = 10
tWTR = 14
tFAW = 21
tRD = 9
tRTP = 4
tRFC = 59
tREF = 7.8 us
Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = Auto
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = auto
CPU VTT Voltage = auto
Memory Voltage = auto
NB Core Voltage = auto
SB Core Voltage = auto
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = auto
CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = disabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled
Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled
Problem Description
freezes after 15 minutes on Second Life, total lockup where the mouse and keyboard fail to respond. This board was RMA'ed to ASUS for the lockup problem, and ASUS sent back the same board with no changes that I can tell. Update: I am using the BIOS values above now, and so far my system is stable *knock on wood*
Code:Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = NOX Pulsar Blue 750W
CPU = Q9450
RAM = OCZ ReaperX DDR3 1333MHz
HDD ( the one where you have your windows installation on ) = MAXTOR 250Gb SATA2 16Mb Cache
VGA1 = EVGA GTX280
NorthBridge Cooling = Stock
SouthBridge Cooling = Stock
CPU Cooling = Thermaltake Aquarius 3 (WaterCooling)
RAM Cooling = Stock
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = Cd Stock(I dont know)
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 177.79
BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED
BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = PC3-10660
AI Overclock Tuner = AUTO
CPU Multiplier =*8
FSB - Memory Clock Mode =AUTO
FSB - Memory Ratio =AUTO
FSB (QDR) MHz =1333
MEM (DDR) MHz =1333
LDT Frequency =*5
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = AUTO
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
Memory Timing Setting
P1 =AUTO
P2 =AUTO
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = MANUAL - 7
tRCD = MANUAL - 7
tRP =MANUAL - 7
tRAS =MANUAL - 24
Command Per Clock (CMD) =AUTO - 1T
tRRD =AUTO - 5
tRC =AUTO - 34
tWR = AUTO - 12
tWTR =AUTO - 15
tFAW =AUTO - 26
tRD =AUTO - 9
tRTP =AUTO - 1
tRFC =AUTO - 74
tREF =AUTO - 7.8uS
Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = AUTO
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = AUTO
CPU VTT Voltage = AUTO
Memory Voltage = AUTO
NB Core Voltage = AUTO
SB Core Voltage = AUTO
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = AUTO
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = AUTO
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = AUTO
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = AUTO
NB GTL REF Ratio = AUTO
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = AUTO
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = AUTO
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = AUTO
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = AUTO
CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = AUTO
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = ENABLED
Virtualization Technology = ENABLED
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled
Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = AUTO
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = AUTO
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = AUTO
Problem Description
When I am Playing a game (for example Crysis or GRID) my PC crash but dont restart (it freeze).In windows Xp it freeze to but its rare.
I cant go to Task manager or go to windows when it crashes, the only way its rebooting manually. After I rebbot the pc run normally.
What is the problem??? Help me please!
BIOS 1103 seems ok.
P.S. I'll try to reply in 1-2 days guys, sorry got lots of things to do :(
Some settings as you can see are displayed in red color, YOU NEED to SET
those values EXACTLY like I have
[code]Required System Specifications
PSU ( Power Supply Unit ) = antec 1200W dual ps (2x600)
CPU = INTEL Q9300 @ 2500
RAM = Corsair TWIN3X 1333MHz DDR3, 4GB, DHX,Kit w/two 2GB XMS3 modules, CL9-9-9-24
HDD = Western Digital VelociRaptor 150GB, 10000RPM, SATA, 3 Gb/s, 16MB
VGA1 = XFX GeForce 8800GTX 768MB GDDR3
VGA2 ( if you have ) =
VGA3 ( if you have ) =
SPU ( Sound Card ) = on MB
NorthBridge Cooling = Passive cooling (Default on MB)
SouthBridge Cooling = Passive cooling (Default on MB)
CPU Cooling = Intel OEM
RAM Cooling = Default Heatsinks
nFORCE Chipset Drivers Version = 15.23
ForceWare/GeForce Drivers Version = 175.19
Sound Card Drivers Version =
BIOS version 0801 REQUIRED BIOS 1103
BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = option not visible on my setup
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 7.5
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Auto
FSB - Memory Ratio = Auto
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1333
MEM (DDR) MHz = Auto (actual 1333.3)
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = Auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled
Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Auto
P2 = Auto
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 9
tRCD = 9
tRP = 9
tRAS = 24
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 1T
tRRD = 4
tRC = 33
tWR = 12
tWTR = 16
tFAW = 21
tRD = 11
tRTP = 5
tRFC = 60
tREF = 7.8uS
Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = Auto
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
CPU VTT Voltage = Auto
Memory Voltage = Auto
NB Core Voltage = Auto
SB Core Voltage = Auto
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = Auto
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto
CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Disabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
CPU Core 4 ( Ignore this setting, unless you have a Quad-Core CPU ) = Enabled
Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled
Problem Description
Computer randomly freezes when playing games. Does not matter which games. Have had the
problem in iRacing, GTR Evolution, CoH Opposing fronts, and Football Manager 2008 which
are all the games i currently have installed. Happens in all ofthem. Seems OK when
running IE and on desktop, but as soon as I start playing games, it hangs within 10-30
minuttes
So is 1103 more stable than 0901? Should i flash to it?
I don't know if it's more stable or just better than 0901, but it's surely working fine with my settings from 0804,0901.
Alright, well i'll flash over to 1103 next chance i get. Also, i'm still waitin for your input on GeForce and nForce drivers.