Asus P5E3 Premium Wi-fi-AP

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Originally Posted by Puttz

Did all that & the cards & slots work perfectly on their own. I'll try running them at the same speed. there was just a minor diff higher on the slave (bottom).

Thought it might be a bois setting somewhere.

What are your 3dmark06 results? I'm around 18500.

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I never did 3DMarks on mine; I believe you have the 3870s correct? I have HD2900XTs myself, so my score and yours wouldn't even be in the same neighborhood.

Stupid question, but how many Xfire bridges are you using? 1 or 2?


UPDATE:

RMA has been filed, board is gonna go back to them for the last time; BlackOps board ordered to replace it, should be in my hands tomorrow. The many issues with the P5E3 Premium, and the layout of the BlackOps really drove me to the replacement; I no longer have a need for my Koolance motherboard blocks, but I guess it's a small price to pay to get rid of the headache I got with the P5E3.

I've got both jumpers on. I'm not to worried about it.....yet. lol

It is like the upper slot is only running 8x instead of 16x when in crossfire mode. Probably a Cat or bios update to fix that soon enough.

I'll keep playing with it in the mean time. It's proably something simple I've overlooked.

Thanks

I am having a horrible time trying to get rid of lockup / freezing issues with my P5E3 premium.
And this is just to get my oc stable at fsb=450. I have tested with 2 different memory kits (2x1GB CellShock PC14400 8-7-6-21 and 2x1GB Corsair Dominators 7-7-7-20) and 2 different CPUs (QX9650 and E8500) and the lockups are always there.

The system freezes after 1h, 2h, sometimes 6h of priming.
It is very tough to spot what causes the problem.
I have tried nearly every option that the bios can offer:
BIOS: 0401 & 0402
FSB: 450
CPU: x8
STRAP: 333 & 400
CR: 1T & 2T
DRAM Timing: 7-7-7-20 or 8-7-6-21 depending on the kit, rest on AUTO
DRAM static read & write: both disabled or enabled
Clock Twister: Lighter -> Strong
PL: 6 -> 9
Vcore: 1.35V
GTLVREF 0/2: 0.65 0.66 0.67
GTLVREF 1/3: 0.67
FSB: 1.28V
VDimm: 2.0V and 2.1V
NB: 1.49 1.51 1.55 or 1.61
SB: Auto or 1.2V
LLC: Performance
Spread Spectrum: disabled

I am clueless what I could try next.
The freeze doesn't seem to happen if I leave the fsb at 333, so I guess it's not my PSU or 9800 GX2.
Because I have 2 mem kits and 2 CPUs to test with, I tend to believe it is the MB :-(

Anyone else is experiencing random freeze/lockups?
Did anyone find a proper solution?

Wow, those two RAMs are the ones "supposed" to be supported by this board. Have you tried setting your vCore to 1.36250v? Worked for me. Also, you did not mention your PLL voltage, I had mine set to 1.70v. My VTT was set to 1.30v, you should give that a try as well.

I have bump vcore to 1.365 on occasion, also tried PLL up to 1.6... VTT also maxed to 1.36 at some point.
I am just doubtfull it's CPU related. With a multi of x6 (clock=2.7GHz) the lockup issue is still there...

I have my NB at 1.41 and it seems to run stable at that setting. I got prime95 errors with NB much higher than that.
Puttz, I would like to see what you are able to do with your ram. Please post some info/bios settings when you are able to dial things up.
So far I have found that this board is extremely settings sensitive.

Mateo, try these settings for me please:

FSB = 450
FSB Strap = 333
DRAM = 1350Mhz
DRAM Timings = 6-5-5-15-2T or 6-6-6-18-2T if you get locked up using the first set of timings
LLC = Performance
CPU = 1.36250
PLL = 1.70
VTT = 1.30
NB = 1.39
DRAM = whatever voltage you use to boot your ram at 1333Mhz + .02
SB = 1.20

Everything else default or Auto. The reason behind you trying these settings is to figure out if the issue lies behind your RAM. Even with my F'ed up RAM I'm able to run stable at 3.6Ghz.

Thanks for your proposal Telo. I will definitely try what you propose.

However my dominators really rock, I have tested them successfully at 1900 and 2000 cas 8.

What I tried already is to loosen timings to 9-9-9-24, go PL 9 and clock twister to [Lighter]. And I still got a lockup :confused:

Right now I am playing with GTL settings on my E8500.
Tried 0.61 and got a prime error but no lock after ~2h.
I am now benching again at 0.63 and crossing fingers.

I will keep you posted.

I thought setting CPU PLL over 1.6 was not safe ?

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Originally Posted by Mykou

I thought setting CPU PLL over 1.6 was not safe ?

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Nope, setting VTT [CPU termination] over 1.40v is unsafe.

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Originally Posted by Telo

Nope, setting VTT [CPU termination] over 1.40v is unsafe.

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Did you find raising that cpu pll was useful for stability rather than vcore itself ?

Yes. At first I had the vCore at 1.38v and it was still a little shaky with the PLL set to 1.60v. Then I brought the vCore down to 1.36250 [which is actually the max voltage recommend by Intel], and raised the PLL to 1.70 from 1.64v and the VTT to 1.30 from 1.24v. I had the PC running at 3.6Ghz with the RAM at 1350Mhz for a good 5 hours until I stopped it to mess around and try to lower the voltages a little and to try and get the RAM to actually work at 1800Mhz like it was meant to.

Thanks Telo for sharing , I just own that board for a week and have to mess with all those settings ;)

Guys, Which memory strap seems to work best on this board? I've noticed that my memory read bandwidth scores are consistantly higher using the 400mhz strap as opposed to the 333mhz strap. Has anyone else noticed this? If it is relevant, I noticed this with the FSB set to 400 mhz and I have an E8400 cpu with 2x2gb OCZ platinum ram running at 1600mhz.

I also cant run the board on any divider other than the 2:1 divider. I am running the 0151 Bios, and this makes it as real pain when testing the CPU overclock for stability as I cant run the ram any slower than 1600mhz if I have the FSB set to 400 mhz.

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Originally Posted by soapman72

Guys, Which memory strap seems to work best on this board? I've noticed that my memory read bandwidth scores are consistantly higher using the 400mhz strap as opposed to the 333mhz strap. Has anyone else noticed this? If it is relevant, I noticed this with the FSB set to 400 mhz and I have an E8400 cpu with 2x2gb OCZ platinum ram running at 1600mhz.

I also cant run the board on any divider other than the 2:1 divider. I am running the 0151 Bios, and this makes it as real pain when testing the CPU overclock for stability as I cant run the ram any slower than 1600mhz if I have the FSB set to 400 mhz.

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First thing, boot with your settings all set to auto and upgrade your BIOS to at least 0204; second thing, the 2GB variety of the OCZ platinum has a limit of 1.95v before you void the warranty so keep that in mind [the 1GB variety has a 2.0v].
What is the "desired" speed you want to run your system at? 1600Mhz? If it is, then that is easy:

Set the FSB Strap to 400Mhz
Set the FSB to 400Mhz
Set the RAM to 1600Mhz
Set the RAM timing to Manual
Assign these timings: 7-7-7- [you can try 18-21] - 2T
Disable the Dynamic Read and Write
Set your vCore between 1.20 - 1.24v [it varies from chip to chip]
Set your PLL to 1.50v
Set your VTT to 1.10v
Set your RAM between 1.90 -1.95v [depends on the forth value on your RAM timing]
Set your NB between 1.35 - 1.41v [depends on the forth value on your RAM timing/voltage you assign your RAM]
Set your SB to 1.05v
Set LLC to performance
Disable CPU SS and PCIE SS

Leave everything else as default or AUTO.

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Originally Posted by Telo

First thing, boot with your settings all set to auto and upgrade your BIOS to at least 0204; second thing, the 2GB variety of the OCZ platinum has a limit of 1.95v before you void the warranty so keep that in mind [the 1GB variety has a 2.0v].
What is the "desired" speed you want to run your system at? 1600Mhz? If it is, then that is easy:

Set the FSB Strap to 400Mhz
Set the FSB to 400Mhz
Set the RAM to 1600Mhz
Set the RAM timing to Manual
Assign these timings: 7-7-7- [you can try 18-21] - 2T
Disable the Dynamic Read and Write
Set your vCore between 1.20 - 1.24v [it varies from chip to chip]
Set your PLL to 1.50v
Set your VTT to 1.10v
Set your RAM between 1.90 -1.95v [depends on the forth value on your RAM timing]
Set your NB between 1.35 - 1.41v [depends on the forth value on your RAM timing/voltage you assign your RAM]
Set your SB to 1.05v
Set LLC to performance
Disable CPU SS and PCIE SS

Leave everything else as default or AUTO.

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My headache with this mobo is unbelievable !!!

I am using a nice intel QX9650 and four 1GB 1800Mhz (8-7-6-21 -- 1.9V) cellshock modules and nothing seems satisfying for stability (memtest86 and Prime). BUT now I've read your remarks my friend, I will try to raise PLL Volts over 1.60 and lower the FSB Termination ones to 1.30 just to see what happens...

I' ll be back.... :)

didn't work for me so I stay with my settings stable occt

yeah that mobo is pretty hard to get stable when o/c IMO but I love it :D

considering me happy just raising vcore one notch to get stable @4ghz comparing to my P5k blackpearl

Hope asus will release improved bios

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Hi all,

Just bought the P5E3 Premium and some nice Corsair C7 memory.
According to the revision and corsairs IC inquery on their forum, there shoud be micron chips on these 2048 modules. Lucky for me, i hope :D
Comming weekend i'll be setting up this combination.
Only have to wait for the 64 bit OS to arrive,..

Maybe i gonna need a bit support on tuning the bios. :up:
I'll post back when i have the first results.

grt,


Kazi

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Originally Posted by nick2006

My headache with this mobo is unbelievable !!!

I am using a nice intel QX9650 and four 1GB 1800Mhz (8-7-6-21 -- 1.9V) cellshock modules and nothing seems satisfying for stability (memtest86 and Prime). BUT now I've read your remarks my friend, I will try to raise PLL Volts over 1.60 and lower the FSB Termination ones to 1.30 just to see what happens...

I' ll be back.... :)

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My headaches were so bad that I just gave up and cut my loses. The funny thing about your situation is that CellShocks are one of the two RAMs reported [by users] as doing great on this particular board. Mine was shutdown from the get go by ASUS tech support. By the way, your situation makes me glad that I switched the board out and not go out and purchase 4GBs of CellShock at about $400 per pair.

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Originally Posted by Kazi

Hi all,

Just bought the P5E3 Premium and some nice Corsair C7 memory.
According to the revision and corsairs IC inquery on their forum, there shoud be micron chips on these 2048 modules. Lucky for me, i hope :D
Comming weekend i'll be setting up this combination.
Only have to wait for the 64 bit OS to arrive,..

Maybe i gonna need a bit support on tuning the bios. :up:
I'll post back when i have the first results.

grt,


Kazi

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Corsairs are reported [by users] as doing really good with this board, so you did a smart purchase off the bat.

Well folks, this is how i've made out

Real easy to hit 3.6 (9*400) w a 1800mhz running 7,7,7,14 2t everything else auto. Tcase temps idle - mid to high 20's. Load high 30's. 3dMark96 - 18472. All really stable.

Now comes the next step - I'm trying to get a rock solid stable 3.8 w/ 1900 - 2000 mhz ram. Then it might be worth posting pics...lol

Any ideas are worth a try.

Thanks guys for all the help. This is a blast!!

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Originally Posted by Puttz

Well folks, this is how i've made out

Real easy to hit 3.6 (9*400) w a 1800mhz running 7,7,7,14 2t everything else auto. Tcase temps idle - mid to high 20's. Load high 30's. 3dMark96 - 18472. All really stable.

Now comes the next step - I'm trying to get a rock solid stable 3.8 w/ 1900 - 2000 mhz ram. Then it might be worth posting pics...lol

Any ideas are worth a try.

Thanks guys for all the help. This is a blast!!

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How did you get 1800 memory with 400fsb on the CPU?

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Originally Posted by Telo

First thing, boot with your settings all set to auto and upgrade your BIOS to at least 0204; second thing, the 2GB variety of the OCZ platinum has a limit of 1.95v before you void the warranty so keep that in mind [the 1GB variety has a 2.0v].
What is the "desired" speed you want to run your system at? 1600Mhz? If it is, then that is easy:

Set the FSB Strap to 400Mhz
Set the FSB to 400Mhz
Set the RAM to 1600Mhz
Set the RAM timing to Manual
Assign these timings: 7-7-7- [you can try 18-21] - 2T
Disable the Dynamic Read and Write
Set your vCore between 1.20 - 1.24v [it varies from chip to chip]
Set your PLL to 1.50v
Set your VTT to 1.10v
Set your RAM between 1.90 -1.95v [depends on the forth value on your RAM timing]
Set your NB between 1.35 - 1.41v [depends on the forth value on your RAM timing/voltage you assign your RAM]
Set your SB to 1.05v
Set LLC to performance
Disable CPU SS and PCIE SS

Leave everything else as default or AUTO.

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Thanks for recommending those settings. My own are very nearly the same as you suggested, however, with a performance level of 6 selected, I need 1.45v on the NB to keep the system 100% stable during 3D gaming. Prime was stable at 1.41-1.43v, but gaming seems to need a touch more at PL6. I also run PLL at 1.50v and FSBT at 1.10. I don't know if these 2 settings are responsible for my headaches with the tighter timings, but they certainly don't keep me from finding stability at 7-7-7-20.

I have the EB Platinum 4gb OCZ memory, and have had terrible luck with it. I cannot run it at 7-6-6-24 as it is rated. I am forced to run 7-7-7-20. I can't even get the kit to run 7-7-6-24 without Memtest errors. I have RMA'd two kits already.

I am nearly ready to give up on this memory as it will not even overclock by even 5mhz at 7-7-7-20 timings. The folks at OCZ keep suggesting that I play with clock skews to get the memory stable, but I have not seen any improvement when I sried MANY MANY different combinations of skew. I tried both delay, and advancing the skew. No difference.

Thanks again, and any suggestions would be appreciated.


Sean

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Originally Posted by soapman72

Thanks for recommending those settings. My own are very nearly the same as you suggested, however, with a performance level of 6 selected, I need 1.45v on the NB to keep the system 100% stable during 3D gaming. Prime was stable at 1.41-1.43v, but gaming seems to need a touch more at PL6. I also run PLL at 1.50v and FSBT at 1.10. I don't know if these 2 settings are responsible for my headaches with the tighter timings, but they certainly don't keep me from finding stability at 7-7-7-20.

I have the EB Platinum 4gb OCZ memory, and have had terrible luck with it. I cannot run it at 7-6-6-24 as it is rated. I am forced to run 7-7-7-20. I can't even get the kit to run 7-7-6-24 without Memtest errors. I have RMA'd two kits already.

I am nearly ready to give up on this memory as it will not even overclock by even 5mhz at 7-7-7-20 timings. The folks at OCZ keep suggesting that I play with clock skews to get the memory stable, but I have not seen any improvement when I sried MANY MANY different combinations of skew. I tried both delay, and advancing the skew. No difference.

Thanks again, and any suggestions would be appreciated.


Sean

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It the same for me I have 3 of this kit and I cannot run it at the rated speed :shakes: .I hope the next bios of this board will rules that probleme or I will do a RMA.Next week I will receive a DFI UT X48 TR3 , I will checkif this board is ok with this kit.

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Originally Posted by Tony

How did you get 1800 memory with 400fsb on the CPU?

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It was one of the optoins in AI Suite & it carried over to bios.

Now that I'm working my way up 9*445, I noticed that option was not always available. I think it was 9*425, the best I could do was just over 1700 with no option in AI Suite to bump it.

I haven't even tried playing with voltages yet. Trying to get some around 4 stable on auto first. Watching the temps all the time of course :)

I hope that helped.

Chow for now