Windows Server 2008 is 20% faster than Vista

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03-21-2008, 10:29 AM
Pyr0

nod32 business edition works
03-21-2008, 10:31 AM
hstuehmeyer2000

symantec corporate also works
03-21-2008, 10:35 AM
ultimeus

I think I'm going to switch to Vista64 , I find a way to crash it, install msn 7 and do an upgrade to windows live = crash
03-24-2008, 11:01 AM
szukalski

Install Trillian instead of msn and you'll be right.
03-24-2008, 12:16 PM
triple_A

LOL just had a BSOD out of nowhere while booting..
After a simple reset everything works fine again :ROTF: gotta love Billy's humour :D
03-24-2008, 12:32 PM
Levish

just wanted to share that I'm having issues running arcserve12 (with a autoloader) and win2k8 server
03-25-2008, 12:07 AM
JMKS

For 3 months {since RC1} I'm using 2008 Server x64 as my 24/7 OS [with uptimes from couple of days to two weeks :), of course "user-dependent" not like Vista which is almost "forcing" reboots due to "prefetching" {argh...}], much better than Vista IMHO. Aero, DX10, no prefetching, no problems :).

So, anyone managed to run [bench] PCMark Vantage on 2008 yet? I believe this is same "protection against Server OS'es" like in 3DMark Vantage will be.
On "stock" 2008 it installs and then it wants... "Vista" :rofl: :down:
03-25-2008, 05:16 AM
strange|ife

Quote:

Originally Posted by szukalski

Install Trillian instead of msn and you'll be right.

off topic, but trillian aint the best anymore.

check out pidgin, open source>for windows/unix

blows trill outta the water
03-25-2008, 08:37 AM
n-sanity

Now if only there was an iso on the net that's not ultra cleverly named, is >1mb and has a seed/leech of more then 1:10000, i'll happily try it out.
03-25-2008, 09:32 AM
Drunner611

Quote:

Originally Posted by n-sanity

Now if only there was an iso on the net that's not ultra cleverly named, is >1mb and has a seed/leech of more then 1:10000, i'll happily try it out.

Why would you want an ISO from the net when you can get the ISO direct from Microsoft? It took me less than 30 minutes to download it.

Simply extract, and then run vlite. My install went from 3.5gb to 1.8gb easy.
03-25-2008, 09:57 AM
szukalski

Quote:

Originally Posted by strange|ife

off topic, but trillian aint the best anymore.

check out pidgin, open source>for windows/unix

blows trill outta the water

Haha, funnily enough Pidgin was what I was really after but couldn't remember the name and Trillian was a lot quiicker given my memory of it!
03-25-2008, 11:24 AM
ultimeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by szukalski

Install Trillian instead of msn and you'll be right.

I use miranda for the moment.

My conclusion for server 2008 :

I think this os is really for gaming and work, great stability, memory usage lower than vista, really responding and quick, fully parametrable , and most important for me: not this f*cking UAC, you can change any file without any advertisement.

Drivers of vista are fully compatible.

But for me there is a but , this os is not for all usage I mean my version (x64) as trouble with a lot of program because they refuse to install in os server. it's not a polyvalent os, this is for benching,gaming,working (for me means graphism, video editing, web design,)

So for my use i'll switch to Vista64 with tweaking.
03-25-2008, 02:04 PM
ronaldor9

awsome os
03-27-2008, 03:20 PM
dinos22

this OS is supported on VLite

i cut it down to around 900MB or so and turned off all that transparent theme crap, UAC and :banana::banana::banana::banana:loads of other things

have to test the install now
probably won't work :rofl:
03-27-2008, 11:55 PM
Origin_Unknown

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMKS

of course "user-dependent" not like Vista which is almost "forcing" reboots due to "prefetching" {argh...}],

surely if you can turn server 2008 into workstation 2008 you know how to turn pre-fetch off in vista?
03-28-2008, 04:19 AM
Drunner611

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

this OS is supported on VLite

i cut it down to around 900MB or so and turned off all that transparent theme crap, UAC and :banana::banana::banana::banana:loads of other things

have to test the install now
probably won't work :rofl:

I am currently running a vlite version of this. It works nice!
03-28-2008, 07:33 PM
Blauhung

antivirus software that works
http://www.win2008workstation.com/wo...rity-software/

Clamwin is opensource
03-28-2008, 10:33 PM
dinos22

man eva2000 gave me a good idea

how cool is this program EEK

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9...board01gr5.png
03-29-2008, 02:29 AM
halo112358

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

man eva2000 gave me a good idea

how cool is this program EEK

Until a couple of months ago I had a really old copy of QBTimer for inputting my hours at work (we use QuickBooks to track employee hours). This copy of QBTimer was so old that it would insta-crash on any dual monitor machine, and all I had were dual monitor workstations.

To make my long story short I had to install XP in M$'s virtual PC just to run QBTimer and so I could get my time in and get paid - good times, good times.
03-29-2008, 12:47 PM
Tonucci

Can i be sure that server 2008 is really an "specialized version" of vista ? I'd like further confirmation. Thanks.
03-29-2008, 12:53 PM
RAW-Raptor22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonucci

Can i be sure that server 2008 is really an "specialized version" of vista ? I'd like further confirmation. Thanks.

It is the same build number as Vista SP1 (6001). It just basically has all of the slow part of the kernel removed yielding improved performance. :up:
03-29-2008, 12:58 PM
Tonucci

Nice.... So vliteing them would probably result in the same thing.
03-29-2008, 07:27 PM
G H Z

Quote:

Originally Posted by [cTx] Raptor22

It is the same build number as Vista SP1 (6001). It just basically has all of the slow part of the kernel removed yielding improved performance. :up:

Except that it still performs worse than XP/2003.
03-29-2008, 08:09 PM
MuffinFlavored

Quote:

Originally Posted by G H Z

Except that it still performs worse than XP/2003.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonucci

Nice.... So vliteing them would probably result in the same thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by [cTx] Raptor22

It is the same build number as Vista SP1 (6001). It just basically has all of the slow part of the kernel removed yielding improved performance. :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonucci

Can i be sure that server 2008 is really an "specialized version" of vista ? I'd like further confirmation. Thanks.

I ran benchmarks on Windows Server 2008 Standard 64-bit vLited to 1gb (literally nothing remained, look at the first 3 screen shots under the Server 2008 section) and my every day Windows XP.

System is in my signature.
Video card drivers used: 174.74 non-WHQL

Code:

Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 32-bit (Western Digital Raptor 150GB non-AHCI) http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/508...0529970_rs.jpg http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/508...9206621_rs.jpg http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2...pacextrsd3.jpg http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2...myspacejj1.jpg http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6...xgooglepg2.jpg http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6...myspaceft8.jpg http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3...ormancefr5.jpg http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4...ocessesxt6.jpg http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8...perpi1mhp1.jpg http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1...resultsld8.jpg 3DMark06 Standard Benchmark with October 2007 Hot fix: 10534 3DMarks

Code:

Windows Server 2008 Standard Service Pack 1 64-bit (Western Digital SE16 Caviar 250GB AHCI) http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8304/vlite1wp7.jpg http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4206/vlite2hl0.jpg http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8861/vlite3ni1.jpg http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5...myspaceyj1.png http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2...pacextrfl5.png http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2...xgooglebi2.png http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2...myspaceoi5.png http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9...ormancexe4.png http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6...ocessesll5.png http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4...perpi1mjj2.png http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6...resultsry2.png 3DMark06 with October 2007 Hot fix: 9983

EDIT:
Added Windows XP "services.msc" window along with "Performance Options".
Time to go do the same on Workstation.

http://www.win2008workstation.com/wordpress/
Great site with many ways to turn off server functionality and bump up the workstation functionality.
03-30-2008, 08:24 AM
003

Finally some real numbers... Thats hardly any hit, just ~600 points. Could you bench them again, except with a normal install of Server 2008, configured as a workstation (don't modify with vlite)?

Oh and quick question. All you guys that do modify with vlite, and more than chop the size in half, what is it exactly that you are removing? Like how do you know what is OK to remove, and won't cause problems with other aplications that depend on what was removed, etc...?

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