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05-13-2007, 01:07 PM
nemrod

Quote:

Originally Posted by madcho

NDA on K10 finish on 14.

Are you sure? according to anandtech article (11 may)
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2986
"Barcelona Demos and Motherboards

Much to our dismay and definitely against our recommendations, AMD will not follow in Intel's footsteps and let us do a performance preview of Agena or Barcelona. In fact, AMD wouldn't even let us know what clock speeds its demo systems were running at. While we cautioned AMD that a lack of information disclosure at this point would only reinforce this idea that AMD is lagging far behind Intel, AMD's counterpoint does have some validity. AMD's reasoning for not disclosing more information today has to do with not wanting to show all of its cards up front, and to give Intel the opportunity to react. We still don't believe it's the right decision, and we can't help but believe that the reason for not disclosing performance today is because performance isn't where it needs to be, but only AMD knows for sure at this point."

So if even anandtech which was invited to the 10 may demo hasn't had the right to bench, it's curious that nda ends 14?
05-13-2007, 01:13 PM
madcho

NDA finish the 14, but don't dream to see Barcelona on stock :nono:

a french web site :

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Officialisés dès lundi, ces nouveaux bébés devraient être en démonstration intensive lors du prochain Computex, mais ne seront pas disponible dans leur version grand public avant l'été voire la rentrée, pour les modèles Quad Core.

translate by google ( seems good )

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Officialized as of Monday, these new babies should be in intensive demonstration at the time of next Computex, but will not be available in their version general public before the summer even the re-entry, for the models Quad Core.
05-13-2007, 01:16 PM
red

Is it going to be hardware review site reviews or a bunch of amd.com marketing baloney?
05-13-2007, 01:25 PM
nemrod

Quote:

Originally Posted by madcho

NDA finish the 14, but don't dream to see Barcelona on stock :nono:

It's not the problem...
NDA: non disclosure agreement... Why a NDA, if nobody has info? Why anandtech (and every others sites) says they can't bench the 10 may? Do you really think that people who were invited by amd the 10 may, will not be some of the first to have the infos? (except amd staff)

Perhaps there is a 14 may NDA for some kind of amd product (R600, I guess, since board are around) but Barcelona? We will see, but i would be surprised if you're information is true (barcelona nda 14 may)
05-13-2007, 01:26 PM
madcho

Quote:

Originally Posted by nemrod

It's not the problem...
NDA: non disclosure agreement... Why a NDA, if nobody has info? Why anandtech (and every others sites) says they can't bench the 10 may? Do you really think that people who were invited by amd the 10 may, will not be some of the first to have the infos? (except amd staff)

Perhaps there is a 14 may NDA for some kind of amd product (R600, I guess, since board are around) but Barcelona? We will see, but i would be surprised if you're information is true (barcelona nda 14 may)

see my edit ;) :fact:
05-13-2007, 01:30 PM
nemrod

Quote:

Officialized as of Monday, these new babies should be in intensive demonstration at the time of next Computex, but will not be available in their version general public before the summer even the re-entry, for the models Quad Core.

What should I see? They speak of computex so in June... And desktop version for this summer??? Very strange...
I have find your source:
http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/36...Huit-cores.htm
And it looks like they report what anandtech and other have seen but adding this date and computex? Curious?
Their source:
another french site: http://www.hardware.fr/news/lire/10-05-2007/
but no information about nda or computex on this one...

But It doesn't matter, if you're right we will see tomorrow, if not, we will wait few months again as we do since long time...
05-13-2007, 01:42 PM
Nedjo

Quote:

Originally Posted by madcho

NDA on K10 finish on 14.

14... of what month?
05-13-2007, 03:37 PM
Cooper

lol
there are several posts telling that NDA lift on K10 is 14th of May 2007 and people still asking the date :D
It will be soft launch meaning that actual products will be delivered to resellers only in second half of this year. Can't tell you more cos i don't know the exact data myself.
Tommorow AMD will publish a Press Release.
05-13-2007, 05:09 PM
informal

AMD Barcelona K10 B0 pictured

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Exclusive: A new revision kicking well

Some of you might remember our Agena screenshot roughly a month ago and we have some news for you. Today we got a snap of a Barcelona sample, up and running. You can see the Agena here.

Barcelona on the other hand works at 2.4 GHz in Socket F 1207 motherboard. It needs 1.144V and CPU-Z recognizes it as AMD Processor model unknown.

The tested sample was model 8, stepping 1 famous revision B0. We already mentioned this chip here.

The CPU specification is even more interesting. This is an Engineering sample 00 (ES) processor. The sample works at 2.4 GHZ with a buss speed of 266 MHz and a multiplier of 9.

The HT works at 1333 MHz. The CPU Z 1.4 recognizes all four cores, 4x64 L1 data and 4x64 KB code cache and the whole 4x512 KB L2 memory but it can not read the L3 memory at least not from this core.

The best part of it is that there is a more to come, just give us some time. So this is how a new Opteron looks like.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=959&Itemid=35
05-13-2007, 05:50 PM
Kingcarcas

So who wants to come over tonight for the countdown party?:toast: :banana:
05-13-2007, 05:55 PM
[XC] Lead Head

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

AMD Barcelona K10 B0 pictured

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=959&Itemid=35

1333Mhz makes no sense at all for HT. HTT1.0 has a max of 800Mhz, HT2.0 is 1.4GHz max, and HT3 has a max of 2.6GHz. No where is a 266/1333 bus mentioned. I call BS.
05-13-2007, 06:35 PM
theteamaqua

fudzilla or inq?? which one should i trust more
05-13-2007, 08:40 PM
OBR

No! today is not endings NDA for K10! But only Phenom name of CPU!
05-13-2007, 10:14 PM
frankR

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head

1333Mhz makes no sense at all for HT. HTT1.0 has a max of 800Mhz, HT2.0 is 1.4GHz max, and HT3 has a max of 2.6GHz. No where is a 266/1333 bus mentioned. I call BS.

266x5=1333

I can do that on my DFI board right now. What's so strange about that?
05-13-2007, 10:18 PM
MAS

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

AMD Barcelona K10 B0 pictured

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=959&Itemid=35

CPU-Z cannot recognize muliplier and HT right

http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stori...na_tested1.jpg

K10 cpu we see has clockspeed = 2400, bus = 200, multi = 12x and HT=3600 MT/sec
05-13-2007, 10:49 PM
onethreehill

AMD Names Athlon's Successor: Phenom
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2987

AMD Announces Phenom Processor Branding
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7263
05-13-2007, 10:57 PM
nemrod

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

No! today is not endings NDA for K10! But only Phenom name of CPU!

You're probably right...
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/V...117412,00.html
05-13-2007, 11:05 PM
Shintai

Fudzilla and CPU-Z screenshots dont mix after all those fakes.
05-13-2007, 11:12 PM
OBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by nemrod

You're probably right...
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/V...117412,00.html

Yes, because i KNOW it!
05-14-2007, 03:17 AM
[XC] Lead Head

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankR

266x5=1333

I can do that on my DFI board right now. What's so strange about that?

Because why would AMD chose to not even use the HT2.0 bus to its full potential, not to mention HT3 has vastly higher speeds then that. And that there no possible way to get an even 1800 or 2600MHz when the base bus speed is 266MHz.
05-14-2007, 03:28 AM
Shintai

The HT should have been 1.8Ghz or so. (3.6GT/s). So smells so much of a fake.
05-14-2007, 03:52 AM
madcho

Barcelona is HT2.0 not HT3.0 ...
05-14-2007, 04:51 AM
OBR

HT 3.0 is chipset related feature NOT primary CPU ... and Barcelona "Agena" is HT 3.0 ready!
05-14-2007, 05:29 AM
fyseni

Is there any AM2+ boards coming out soon(ish), or will they be released with K10 in Q4? I would of loved to pick up a X2 3600+ at ~50€ and an AM2+ board, later dropping a Kuma in it.
05-14-2007, 06:24 AM
informal

Boards will hit retail around June/July(at least that was the plan)

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