The ***OFFICIAL*** F@H Harassment and discussion thread!!!

I just got fold3 back online. In a new form :D Got tired of fold3 crashing all the time so it had been down for about 2 weeks. Now I just replaced it with an A64 2800+ which should perform better I'd think. I repaired a 3000+ which went in someone else's system, and that 2800+ from there came to me. I'll have to watch it though, this asrock board it is in has some trouble - the AGP slot is totally dead, if I put an AGP card in it the system won't even power on. As long as that is the only problem though that is fine, I just put a PCI card in there anyway! If the rest works, I get the board for $10....

Now a question, currently it is running in open air and load temps hit 56C. This is a 130nm newcastle CPU, and I know once I get it put in the box where it belongs it'll run a few degrees warmer and may hit 60C. Is this OK for these 130nm chips? If not I can spend an extra $10 and get a stock cooler from an FX-70 with quad heatpipes :D Currently it is on the same cooler that the celeron was on - I don't know why, but asrock had put this strange bracket on the board that had socket 478 heatsink mounting along with the standard socket 754/939 nubs :confused: But hey, if this cooler is enough for it then it saves me $10 :p:

I'd invest in a propper cooler if i was you... $10 is pretty cheap to keep your cpu alive if you ask me :)

On the other hand the cpu should be able to do 60C, but then i always try to err on the side of caution.

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Originally Posted by embeejay

I'd invest in a propper cooler if i was you... $10 is pretty cheap to keep your cpu alive if you ask me :)

On the other hand the cpu should be able to do 60C, but then i always try to err on the side of caution.

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Yeah that is kind of what I was thinking. You'd think that this heatsink from the celeron could keep it cool enough since it looks to be roughly the same size as the stock A64 sink but maybe it isn't.

My folding output seems to have fallen by about 200+ points a day. I don't understand why because I'm using the same hardware at the same operating frequencies.

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Originally Posted by IanY

My folding output seems to have fallen by about 200+ points a day. I don't understand why because I'm using the same hardware at the same operating frequencies.

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Awhile ago I used to get 1800 PPD. Look at my stats now, can you believe that? Granted my main rig isn't at full speed right now because I'm lacking my X1900XT. But that only accounted for about 700PPD, where did the other 500 go?

Different projects, that is where it went. Certain WU's give better PPD. The 212x WU's are notorious. 1166, 1167, 1495-1499 are all good ones, although they cut a hunk out of the original pointage of the 1495 and 1497.

So right now what I've been seeing come through are the 212x and 303x projects, with a scattering of other random things. That is why the PPD is lower.

Long winded way of answering lol :p:

I'm back up and running! :woot: Got my mobo and my new X1950XT put in. Crunching full steam now :D

Excellent. Hey that MaSoccer has been whipping up the charts. I noticed he has very few work units relative to overall score. How do you think that happens? I know part of it is no EUE's but geez.

Also, for 5 hours I am getting this. I can;t keep my cores busy.

[13:13:09] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:13:09] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:13:15] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[13:13:15] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[13:13:16] - Successful: assigned to (0.0.0.0).
[13:13:16] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[13:13:16] Work Unit has an invalid address.
[13:13:16] - Error: Attempt #4 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[13:14:09] + Attempting to get work packet
[13:14:09] - Connecting to assignment server
[13:14:22] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[13:14:22] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[13:14:23] - Successful: assigned to (0.0.0.0).
[13:14:23] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[13:14:23] Work Unit has an invalid address.
[13:14:23] - Error: Attempt #5 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.

Chas: it's because he only runs the smp client - check out my daily score - i run 3 smp clients, on 2 * c2d and 1 * p4 with HT (it has emt64 and runs linux, otherwise it'd be too slow for the smp client). the smp clients give alot higher ppd than the normal clients.

Regarding that assignment servers... that sucks, i have no clue why you have that problem..

Oh no.... came back from class to a BSOD :( PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA - now what?! Some ATI file was listed, I'm running the catalyst 7.3's on my X1950XT, anyone have any trouble with these drivers?

If it happens again I'll take a pic with my camera and post it so you can see everything it said - and so I don't have to write it all down by hand :p: Bummer, I was hoping my troubles were gonna be over :(

looks like a ram-error to me... whats your OC?

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Originally Posted by embeejay

looks like a ram-error to me... whats your OC?

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312x9 with a 133 ram divider to put the ram at 207.5 according to the math, CPU-Z reports 200.6 though. My ram won't OC worth a crap so I have to use a big divider. Major timings are still at default too, 2.5-3-3-6 with a 1T command rate.

not that I am a wiz on this point, but I'd try to relax the timings a bit if I was you. These days i tend to opt for stability over speed

@Sparky

Sorry to hear that mate. I've been dealing with own similar issues lately. I've been getting a lot of BSODs and other funny errors like 'Registry loaded from a recent backup or log' (corruption) and the like. After a :banana::banana::banana::banana:load of frigging around with drivers etc, I finally discovered that one of my HZ sticks was dying/dead--after testing with Memory Diagnostic I saw lots of errors. I've removed the culprit, currently running on 1x1024MB, and everything is fine again. Although because of the damage sustained while the dodgy stick was dying I've since rebuilt my OS. Had it all done with main apps and settings in a couple of hours now that I have a decent image (Ghost) and using XP's Files and Settings Transfer Wizard. This used to take a very long day or more and then nuisance installs/updates for days/weeks thereafter.

All is rosy now. This happened last Wednesday evening. I tried to get replacement RAM on Thursday but the :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty supplier duped me. They implied the courier hadn't arrived yet, but as soon as I confirmed payment (within minutes of talking to them) they claimed the courier had been and gone. I expect the replacements to arrive tomorrow.
We've just had a four day long weekend for Easter so this was a real bummer.

Anyway, run a diagnostic on memory for a start.

btw, I'm losing my grip on the rankings. 15 down to 16 now, and soon to be dropped back to 18th!!! :mad:

I've run memtest before through 12 passes and no errors.... If I have another BSOD I'll try running it again. I did tweak a setting in the BIOS.

On another note, I see that pythagoras has really pumped up his daily output! :wtf: Guess he didn't like the idea of some of these other guys coming for him :D

Are you using memtest for windows? I find that it will break there when it doesn't show a problem on memtest/dos, etc.

Lookie Here :fact:

Also sorry got no one to harass here :D

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Originally Posted by SparkyJJO

I've run memtest before through 12 passes and no errors.... If I have another BSOD I'll try running it again. I did tweak a setting in the BIOS.

On another note, I see that pythagoras has really pumped up his daily output! :wtf: Guess he didn't like the idea of some of these other guys coming for him :D

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Originally Posted by mad mikee

Are you using memtest for windows? I find that it will break there when it doesn't show a problem on memtest/dos, etc.

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Memtest for windows? I didn't know there was such a thing. I've always downloaded and burned the bootable ISO file (or the ultimate boot CD).

Fold3 seems to be enjoying its new form :D Fold1 got a boost from 900MHz to 1.1GHz, and fold6 got a jump from the 1.1GHz to an Athlon XP 2500+ - which I found out was the golden stepping and is basically a XP 3200+ in disguise! Set the FSB from 166 to 200MHz and it took instantly and so far is rock solid at 2.2GHz :woot: It is one of my WCG crunchers so it won't affect stuff here at F@H but still it's a good thing :)

I've got some new nicknames for you Sparky, 'Swap n Go', 'Mix n Match', 'Treasure Hunter'... ;)

You're on the ball aren't ya'! Way to go mate.

sparky: wcg? Now i know why your daily ppd is so low - i always thought all your machines ran f@h and i couldn't figure out why you didn't hand in more wu's, but now i see you are partly on the dark side, which explains so many things :D

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Originally Posted by embeejay

sparky: wcg? Now i know why your daily ppd is so low - i always thought all your machines ran f@h and i couldn't figure out why you didn't hand in more wu's, but now i see you are partly on the dark side, which explains so many things :D

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Yeah ever since our race with TPR ended I've been helping them out as a thank-you. There has been a WCG stats bar in my sig for awhile now, how did you miss that? Blind in one eye, can't see out the other? ;) :p:

If I was to put all my systems to F@H then there would probably be a decent boost in my PPD, since the WCG crunchers are fold6, fold7, and fold8, which are some of the fastest systems I have. Fold7 is built mainly from parts that I got from the spare parts thread they have so it was obligatory to make sure that one went on WCG anyway, the other two are there to keep it company ;)

Will I go completely back to F@H? Maybe, but I kind of like being in two projects at once since I have enough horsepower to do so. But F@H is my #1 project, so if I have to shut down several of the systems (I might have to due to the electric bill :() then what I still have running will be on F@H.

yeah i did notice that part of your sig, but shrugged it of as temporary insanity :D Just kidding i think it's great you are helping out on wcg as well, and when all is said and done i care a lot more for our team stats than my personal stats - the fact that mawsoccer just raced passed me meant nothing but joy ;)

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Originally Posted by embeejay

yeah i did notice that part of your sig, but shrugged it of as temporary insanity :D Just kidding i think it's great you are helping out on wcg as well, and when all is said and done i care a lot more for our team stats than my personal stats - the fact that mawsoccer just raced passed me meant nothing but joy ;)

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Yeah it is temporary insanity to a point, but I kinda like being insane :D Two projects means two great groups of people I get to be a part of.

Mawsoccer is about ready to crunch me in a couple days, nothing I can do to stop him either. Even if I dragged all my systems back to F@H it would only put it off a couple days, if that. Shame for my personal stats since there will be that ugly red arrow there, but good for the team as a whole. Really wish that he would show up here and say hello.

A quick question for the folks with more systems folding then they have displays... how do you monitor the systems.

I have an old Celeron which could be added to my folding array, but I do not have enough displays for it. A KVM switch isn't really practical here, so what can I do?

Is it a case of set it up with display, remove display, then leave it be?

If it is XP you can log in remotely with RDP. Linux has a similar system for the console. I dunno about all the GUI's. No need for a monitor on a machine these days.

Yeah RDP is a straightforward choice for XP, anything older & I use VNC - usually RealVNC, although I think there are a few variants of it. You can also set up a shared folder on you f@h directory & use a program like FAHmon to monitor the progress across the network from another machine :)