new BIOS for DFI infinity 975X

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08-23-2006, 09:08 PM
Dax5

I just flashed the latest beta bios 816, it almost killed my board! :slapass: very unstable, it went boot lock error, good thing i was able to fix the problem.

i can send the 816 bios if you want it, but flash at your own risk! :D
and be sure your up for the long RMA process haha
08-23-2006, 09:55 PM
momomo6789

816 = Yikes @@ Helped my fsb upto 370 then crashed and now stuck at lol 300 HAHAHAH :) 731 is the best i know of
08-23-2006, 10:10 PM
Kunaak

Didn't anyone bother to listen to anything I said?

This bios is not ready to be released publically, cause it has about as many problems as it fixs.

the main 1. it doesn't boot, if you go into bios, and dont OC, cause the board will default to 8 x 100 mhz, for 800 mhz total, which is far lower then DDR2 was ever meant for, so it will not boot...
took me 2 hours to find out why my board would never boot, if I exited bios...
and I posted this here.

now, just like clock work, the bios is out, people leaked it... and sure enough... people are complaining about the exact things I said a few days ago....

guys... wait for Oskar.
No ones holding anything from you... theres no conspiracy to keep you guys out of the Loop... the plain fact is...
This BIOS is Not Ready For Release..... the last dozen posts only show that even more clearly...
08-23-2006, 10:13 PM
momomo6789

lol come on we gota give it a try i did wonder why it didnt work haha after exiting bios i dont think it was o/c i just uped my vcore and it worked fine ... fun lil buggy bios
08-23-2006, 10:32 PM
Falkentyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

Didn't anyone bother to listen to anything I said?

This bios is not ready to be released publically, cause it has about as many problems as it fixs.

the main 1. it doesn't boot, if you go into bios, and dont OC, cause the board will default to 8 x 100 mhz, for 800 mhz total, which is far lower then DDR2 was ever meant for, so it will not boot...
took me 2 hours to find out why my board would never boot, if I exited bios...
and I posted this here.

now, just like clock work, the bios is out, people leaked it... and sure enough... people are complaining about the exact things I said a few days ago....

guys... wait for Oskar.
No ones holding anything from you... theres no conspiracy to keep you guys out of the Loop... the plain fact is...
This BIOS is Not Ready For Release..... the last dozen posts only show that even more clearly...

Yeah and I got flamed for telling someone to stop begging for the bios...

And when their board dies, they WISH they had listened to me.....god, you can't please ANYONE these days....

Fine, go ahead, flash your freaking boards and kill them and whine some more because you guys couldn't wait...I know you paid money for your board but Kunaak is a mod and very respected around here-do you think he would LIE about this? Wait for DFI to release a working BIOS.

This reminds me of that one guy who flashed 814 and had a 100% dead board, then someone else reads the post, decides he will flash it anyway, and his board dies too. THINK, PEOPLE !
08-23-2006, 10:40 PM
JayG30

Who is whining??? Sounds like you are really.

The BIOS is hosted by someone in this very forum who is well known. If there really is a problem with the BIOS being out to the public then whoever feels responsible enough can tell them to take it down.

I for one will not tell anyone what they can and can not do with there own property. To think that some people should be able to test a Bios, regardless of bugs or not, and others shouldn't be allowed to test it is stupid.

All I see here are people looking for the BIOS and people telling ther experience with it so far. I personally don't see anything wrong with that. Everyone knows the risk of the Bios and some wish to still try it out. Thats there call and not anyone elses.

Again I see no one whining about there board blowing up. If it blows up then they have no one to blame but themselves for taking the risk. They are allowed to take that risk just like people who jump out of planes, drive race cars, climb mountains, etc. Just face the fact that some people like to live a little differently then your conservative living style.
08-23-2006, 10:46 PM
scooby609

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falkentyne

Yeah and I got flamed for telling someone to stop begging for the bios...

And when their board dies, they WISH they had listened to me.....god, you can't please ANYONE these days....

Fine, go ahead, flash your freaking boards and kill them and whine some more because you guys couldn't wait...I know you paid money for your board but Kunaak is a mod and very respected around here-do you think he would LIE about this? Wait for DFI to release a working BIOS.

This reminds me of that one guy who flashed 814 and had a 100% dead board, then someone else reads the post, decides he will flash it anyway, and his board dies too. THINK, PEOPLE !

ya I understand & agree ....

all I ask of ya guys is if ya could keep us updated on how things are working out with this upcoming bios .. what works , what doesnt , if ya gotten a new vers of it , guess on when ya think it might be ready for public, etc

thanks again for all your help & hard work :clap:
08-23-2006, 10:53 PM
Falkentyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayG30

Who is whining??? Sounds like you are really.

The BIOS is hosted by someone in this very forum who is well known. If there really is a problem with the BIOS being out to the public then whoever feels responsible enough can tell them to take it down.

I for one will not tell anyone what they can and can not do with there own property. To think that some people should be able to test a Bios, regardless of bugs or not, and others shouldn't be allowed to test it is stupid.

All I see here are people looking for the BIOS and people telling ther experience with it so far. I personally don't see anything wrong with that. Everyone knows the risk of the Bios and some wish to still try it out. Thats there call and not anyone elses.

Again I see no one whining about there board blowing up. If it blows up then they have no one to blame but themselves for taking the risk. They are allowed to take that risk just like people who jump out of planes, drive race cars, climb mountains, etc. Just face the fact that some people like to live a little differently then your conservative living style.

That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but if some people know the programmers who make the BIOS and they are allowed to test it, other people who have NO involvement at ALL are also supposed to test it, too?

I guess that means that companies should start leaking their betas out to the general public, then !
Everyone leaks stuff. Does that make it right? NO.

Write a piece of code someday and have someone else give it out without your permission then see how you feel...
08-23-2006, 11:09 PM
JayG30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falkentyne

That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but if some people know the programmers who make the BIOS and they are allowed to test it, other people who have NO involvement at ALL are also supposed to test it, too?

I guess that means that companies should start leaking their betas out to the general public, then !
Everyone leaks stuff. Does that make it right? NO.

Write a piece of code someday and have someone else give it out without your permission then see how you feel...

LOL you just told me to write a piece of code someday...thats rich. :p:

For your information I have my degree in computer engineering and a minor in computer sience. I write code all day for one of the biggest government defense contractors in the world. You know those people that make sure when someone shoots a missle at us our ballistic missile defense systems go off without a hitch....that sort of thing. Don't try to lecture me on writing code and having others give it out please because it happens to me on a regular basis.

And FYI major companies do leak out stuff like beta's to the general public all the time. It's one of the industries worst keep secrets. The best way to see how the product will preform ahead of time is by leaking it and pretending like you didn't. Happens almost 90% of the time. For instance, a most recent incident, why do you think Vista got out ot the public (or those smart enough to know how to find it, i.e not your average PC user).

Also I believe the person who posted the BIOS around other places IS actually a tester and not just some guy. If it was suppose to be a closed test then they would/should have done a better job or made that more clear to those who recieved it. If they cared about it still now they would get it removed. I don't see that happening so for now it's a free for all for anyone who feels like taking a chance.
08-23-2006, 11:37 PM
Freez

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayG30

LOL you just told me to write a piece of code someday...thats rich. :p:

For your information I have my degree in computer engineering and a minor in computer sience. I write code all day for one of the biggest government defense contractors in the world. You know those people that make sure when someone shoots a missle at us our ballistic missile defense systems go off without a hitch....that sort of thing. Don't try to lecture me on writing code and having others give it out please because it happens to me on a regular basis.

And FYI major companies do leak out stuff like beta's to the general public all the time. It's one of the industries worst keep secrets. The best way to see how the product will preform ahead of time is by leaking it and pretending like you didn't. Happens almost 90% of the time. For instance, a most recent incident, why do you think Vista got out ot the public (or those smart enough to know how to find it, i.e not your average PC user).

Also I believe the person who posted the BIOS around other places IS actually a tester and not just some guy. If it was suppose to be a closed test then they would/should have done a better job or made that more clear to those who recieved it. If they cared about it still now they would get it removed. I don't see that happening so for now it's a free for all for anyone who feels like taking a chance.

Ah...condescending sage. Vista betas are available to many beta testers, those are impossible to stop from leaking. And even then, MSFT actually released a beta officially on their main website. If people want to try these beta/alpha/omega/whatever releases then I say go right on; just be prepared to face the consequences of your actions.
08-23-2006, 11:51 PM
Sume4

True but the vista beta is still tested to be so reliable that it doesn´t totally screw up your computer.
08-24-2006, 01:44 AM
Falkentyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sume4

True but the vista beta is still tested to be so reliable that it doesn´t totally screw up your computer.

QFT.

Some things just weren't made to be leaked. Period.
08-24-2006, 01:58 AM
erwinz

ah.. hope the new bios will be release soon.. ^_^ sir Oskar Wu we will be waiting.. :)
08-24-2006, 02:58 AM
illidan

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayG30

For your information I have my degree in computer engineering and a minor in computer sience. I write code all day for one of the biggest government defense contractors in the world. You know those people that make sure when someone shoots a missle at us our ballistic missile defense systems go off without a hitch....that sort of thing. Don't try to lecture me on writing code and having others give it out please because it happens to me on a regular basis.

can u write some of that code here plz
08-24-2006, 07:17 AM
Btrice

Quote:

Originally Posted by illidan

can u write some of that code here plz

^That is why you don't get specific about what you do for a living on the internet.
08-24-2006, 07:23 AM
Revv23

Why are you guys arguing about this again?

Someone fry's thier mobo big deal, the rest of you can wait.

Now shut-up and stop crapping on this otherwise informative thread.
08-24-2006, 07:25 AM
Dumo

For now Beta bios 816 isn't worth your time and headache:)
Just wait for official bios release.
08-24-2006, 07:29 AM
JayG30

Quote:

Originally Posted by illidan

can u write some of that code here plz

Yea I can just give out code that has to go with national security. :rolleyes:

I wonder how fast I would loss my job? :p:
08-24-2006, 09:08 AM
Harshal

Well since it will take 10-15days for me to get my board... I hope a more improved and stable bios is out by then. To the guyz who already have it n did some numbers "Thank You" and keep it coming.
08-24-2006, 06:03 PM
Budwise

I have found that the 533 memory setting also works well with higher FSB. I am at 355X9 for now with 1.43v running Orthos.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunaak

sure.

first, if you look at Dumos OC post about this board, you will see my 480 shot was done with 1 gig of corsair 5400 UL, not 2 gigs.
I put 2 gigs of mushkin PC8000 in there, and no matter what, the board was not able to post anywhere past 400 with 2 gigs of ram.

I think I know why too.
bandwidth is drastically higher when you have 2 gigs of ram, then 1 gig of ram, atleast, according to the only thing that would still boot with 2 gigs of ram in it... Memtest 86.
I suspect that the bank interleaving for the stock DFI bioses, just makes the chipset too stressed out, which is why it barely OC's when you use 2 gigs of ram in it.

put 1 gig of ram in the board, and use the 400 mhz setting.

my other settings that I dont know if they help others, but I use.

1.35 VFSB.
1.75 VMCH.
101 mhz PCI E.
PPM Off.
Manually set the cas, ras to cas, TRP and Tras.

for the maximum OC possible on this board, theres a really solid method that works for me, when trying to boot at over 400+ on the FSB.
this takes multiple boots, and has to be done the same way everytime for this to work.

1. after a cleared CMOS. in bios, disable C1E, Execute disable bit, and Virtualization (nothing uses it anyways yet)
in your integrated peripherials, disable anything you dont use, and enable the raid if you use it.

set your CPU speed to manaul, but dont change anything yet.

reboot.

2. change your cas, your Ram divider, set your PCIE to 101, set your voltages, and set the hard drive you need to boot from.
Enable the "recover from failed OC" option and set it to 15 mhz.

the board has one of the best features I have ever seen on a Intel Based Chipset... the recover from failed OC option can save you alot of time, if you use it right.
say you know the board will boot just fine at 350 FSB... well do it.
get back into bios, and then OC by 15 mhz on the FSB. try that. if it boots cool, if it doesn't, the board will lower the FSB back down by 15 mhz, and load the last workable boot.
OC by 15 mhz intervals and you can save yourself alot of headaches having to clear the CMOS, cause this board, like all intel boards seems to have the same annoying thing if you OC too far... it won't ever recover from a failed OC, and needs a complete clearing of the CMOS and starting all over again, if you get too aggressive.
thats why overclocking in 15 mhz intervals can really save you some time on this board...

or if for some reason you set the recover from failed OC option to say 5 mhz, then OC only in 5 mhz intervals... that way, the board has a drastically higher chance at recovering from a failed OC, then if you dont use this option.

reboot.

3. if you have everything set, your ram speed, divider, cas, your boot drive, your voltages and everything you dont use disabled, then by now, theres only 1 thing left to do... adjust the FSB.

this is key here, save the FSB for the last thing you change, and your luck with this board should be alot higher.
and absolutly never, change your FSB and your boot drive at the same time.
I have no idea why, but thats the quickest way to garauntee you will need to clear the CMOS to get the board to boot again...
so thats the one thing you got to always remember to do.

also, from my experience, this board doesn't like having the FSB and voltages changed at the same time... and will most likely again result in a failed boot, and needing to clear the CMOS.

I have spent hours and hours going over and over this board and it's various bioses and figuring out what makes the board work the best, and this is what I do everytime.

if your not gonna take my advice atleast take these two things into consideration.

dont adjust your FSB, and set your boot drive at the same time...

and...

use the "recover from failed OC" option, and adjust your FSB in the same intervals you set the "recover from" option at.

atleast these two things should help most of you.
this is my method, it works for me.
I wont claim this to work for any other board, but I know this method works for me, cause I've done this exact method about 1000 times so far, haha...
08-24-2006, 06:07 PM
Btrice

You should be able to get up to about 375 FSB on BIOS 7/31. You will need to continue to use the 4:3, but set your memory to whatever setting you have closest to 562.5 or greater (not less).
08-24-2006, 06:11 PM
Budwise

the failed overclock feature sure is VERY nice though. Resetting the CMOS over and over sure does slow down the pace.
08-24-2006, 06:29 PM
775911

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayG30

Yea I can just give out code that has to go with national security. :rolleyes:

I wonder how fast I would loss my job? :p:

Losing your job would be least of your worries, reminds me of an old 80's movie I remember.. :cool:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Btrice

You should be able to get up to about 375 FSB on BIOS 7/31. You will need to continue to use the 4:3, but set your memory to whatever setting you have closest to 562.5 or greater (not less).

Can anyone tell which other cheaper boards have these ratios, is it 975 boards only?
08-24-2006, 06:41 PM
Btrice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Budwise

the failed overclock feature sure is VERY nice though. Resetting the CMOS over and over sure does slow down the pace.

Yeah I am looking forward to using that as I plan to put everything right in the case and run it for a little while stock before overclocking.

775, I have no idea about any other boards. Only reason I know so much about this one is all the time I have spent reading up on it compared to my other choices.
08-25-2006, 06:10 PM
Dax5

Any news on the official bios?

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