For a second there, I thought that I must have REALLY lost touch with 32m's and then I realized you did this with a B2...whew :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
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For a second there, I thought that I must have REALLY lost touch with 32m's and then I realized you did this with a B2...whew :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
Maybe someone will share what tweaks give them most time bonus? :D Except tight memory timings which is not really OS tweak
1. Copy-waza gives ~9s
2. Largesyscache also ~9s
(This was on 965 though)
I haven't tried yet maxmem (does it work)? and a famous OPB cleaner. Someone said it works but I haven't tried it yet
Anything else? :D
Running SuperPi in realtime prio seem to help a little as well as the luna theme(for XP that is).
I'm just curious why "luna's" considered a theme while "classic" isn't? They're both listed under themes.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
You tell me. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
Does Vista have a classic theme that looks like the luna theme?
Dunno about Vista since I haven't tried it, but 2k3 has both Classic and Luna selectable as "themes" (as well as "silver" and "olive")Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
2k3 32bit is supposed to be better? My 2k3+sp1 install doesn't work that good and shows worse results
I've always liked 2k3 for spi. For me, it's more stable and consistent. XP, when correctly tweeked is on par with 2k3, but rarely any better. One thing I've noticed though, XP will once in awhile spit out an unusual result - something which is a bit too slow or too fast for a particular speed/timings. Dunno what causes that, but 2k3 does it much less often, if at all.....Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
I agree fully about 2K3 vs. XP.
Either way I'm sure I ran a time in the 12.6 range at 400x10 3-3-3 1:1 with my B1 a couple of weeks ago, which isn't that special, you should be a full tenth faster, even without Luna on. Something is a bit odd about your setup. I don't know if the CPU is just getting tired or there's something behind the scenes going on with mem subsystem that we just can't put our fingers on. No clue what it could be though.
And Vista doesn't have anything besides Aero or Classic. Either way its horrible for Pi. :(
before doesn't like maxmem but it works for me.....well i don't have seconds advantages to add but it was consistently faster with ~128MB for 1M and 600M for 32MQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
my LSC tweak gains more for me but who knows why
i look at the cleaner file and i can't see how it can make a big difference
someone please give me a reasonable explanation
Code:@echo off
echo OPB is cleaning your garbages in your computer, please wait......
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.tmp
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*._mp
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.log
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.gid
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.chk
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\*.old
del /f /s /q %systemdrive%\recycled\*.*
del /f /s /q %windir%\*.bak
del /f /s /q %windir%\prefetch\*.*
rd /s /q %windir%\temp & md %windir%\temp
del /f /q %userprofile%\cookies\*.*
del /f /q %userprofile%\recent\*.*
del /f /s /q "%userprofile%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\*.*"
del /f /s /q "%userprofile%\Local Settings\Temp\*.*"
del /f /s /q "%userprofile%\recent\*.*"
echo hahahaha it is DONE!!
echo. & pause
wazza for me is around 5 seconds on 3.6GHz runs
Looks like it's trying to free up cache.....Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
@ Gautam: I'll see what I can find out about this setup later on....don't really know what it could be though since I'm pretty sure I set up windows correctly :p:
but if you do those operations manually it doesn't really give gainsQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
DID anyone replicate the speed he had on those runs aside from his buddies (i guess someone objective)
What speed and what runs?Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Who ever said that before doesn't like maxmem? :p:
2k3 vs XP part II
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=90566
hmmmmmmm is it really worth the change from XP -> 2k3 ?
To each their own, besides that that was A64. On Conroe, XP scores .02 sec worse than 2K3 in 1M, and 5 seconds worse in 32M for me.
efficiency of those runs was questioned but hipro and the gangQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
did anyone one of them replicate those results as they thought they were too good to be true
tweaked XPPro vs 2003 was same for me.....XP had an advantage in longer runs from memoryQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo
Don't think so, but we've all come to our own conclusions on that matter (there was the longest thread ever in the VIP section). Let's just move on and deal with things as they come up....As they say, "let's put this all behind us"......Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
BTW, IIRC the Japs all use 2k3 (or at least they used to). And they're the best Spi benchers in the world.....
dude i'm not attacking anyone i am just asking if it works or not and what sort of gains people experiencedQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
we are discussing tweaks here aren't we
And neither was I ;) ....I'm just trying to keep a can of worms from being re-opened :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Than u are doing something wrong ;), try maxmem 600 and copy waza with 2GB+ file, it must be 10sec+ on 3.6ghz.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
hey MiskoQuote:
Originally Posted by Misko82
i am yet to do testing on Before's method with a 7GB file going from C>D>C and Luna theme+Silver
i think combined maxmem 600 and my old copy wazza would have been 10+ seconds as well but i want to see of before's method gains more
i am out of any decent CPUs now just my trusty E6300 so all the testing will be done at slow ass 2.8Ghz .....so much easier when runs finish quicker hehehe oh well
ok fair enough i thought you were having a go at me thereQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
i agree i don't want no trouble just tweaks+results :D
Why only 2.80GHz ??, is it on strike or somfin :eek: :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
400MHz FSB 1067 strap.........i guess i could clockgen higher too....actually that's probably not a bad idea but i don't know how high it would bench at that strap as i've never really testedQuote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
one other reason for 400MHz is becuse i can run the RAM at 600Mhz .......my 4:5 ratio struggled at 500MHz which suxors :slapass:
Sounds to me your just getting lazy :stick: :slap:
30 fast approaching in September.....i feel like it's time to slow down a little :p: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
Hehehe my Son is older than you :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
i knew that :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
ahh guys; I've killed 1 module of the Wintec kit... :( Really don't know why... After the loss of performance of my STT kit, I'm starting to think the Commando is suspicious!! :slapass:
I've noticed it doesn't give good Vdimm... for instance; once you can get 2.65V with a particular setting, and after the following boot Vdimm can be obviously 2.73V... so Commando owners be careful! It may be only a matter with mine... but... ;)
Damn Anus and their buggy Vreg :fact: :slapass:
Hey dinos............look hereQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Ya slack arse :p: :D
@before, sorry to hear about the hardware loss mate :(
That's exactly what I was fearing. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by before
ouch..
yea; be careful bro :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gautam
Get a DDR Maximizer......we want to sell hardware too.....:D
Sorry about your loss before.....I know the feeling...... :(
That's EXACTLY what I was going to say as well :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
I start thinking about it... :)
:O new interface....well borders hehe
Before that is awful man :(
Yea; I'm pretty sure the problem is the board. :(
I've quickly tried my new container on a E6600 and a X6800... it looks good; but I've to wait for another X6800 tomorrow; a L624A610, same FPO/BATCH than the one of OC_Windforce; hope to be lucky too. Anyway, week 24 doesn't seem to be a bad one. :rolleyes:
My Commando's here...DOA. :upset:
Perhaps 965 and I just aren't meant for each other. :p:
evening gents:)
are little 6300's allowed?
14m 10.656sec @ 3.6ghz
no 'special' tweaks, 1333 strap too
Oops sorry to hear bro :( Did you try a long clear CMOS?
On my side I've some pretty good news; I've received a X6800 L624A610 and it loaded Win at 5.2GHz@1.64V DMM (Vcore mod didn't work :rolleyes: ) under -118C pot temp. :slobber:
Can't wait to see this chip with 1.8V or 1.9V... Might be a killer one! :D
14m 53.375sec @ <3.3ghz:)
that's the highest i can go on 1066 strap (unmodded p5d dlx)
Ok; no problem :)
very nice thread! im in ;)
Quite a formidable time there esdee. :)
Yes, it is.....too bad we've gotten so off topic here that we've forgotten what this thread was originally about :D I vote that a mod please make this whole "Best Spi 32m @ 3600" a thread of it's own with Gautam leading the discussion (if that's OK with him). Sorry coop for taking up at least 4 or 5 pages of your thread with all this talk :toast:
or you can simply chime in at i4memory.com (eva2000's forum) and show you face there in a Thread dedicated to 3.6GHz runs :toast:
http://www.i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=3017
ROFL
And sadly enough, I have yet to post any time myself here. However, if I ever get around to it, it hopefully will both meet the requirements of this thread and be at more or less 3600MHz (preferably less). ;)
dinos, that looks like a fun thread. Hope to take part in it soon.
Here is my CS pc8000 d9gkx, damn missed 13min by less than 7s. I will try harder :D
This is at 2.58V, reducing trfc, twtr and twtp at these volts instantly crashes :(
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6...032m544qt3.jpg
U-14mins
CPU:Core2 Duo E6600 L639F039
CPU Cooling: Intel original Heatsink
M/B:Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi-AP (BIOS 0910) Vcore, Vdroop, Vdimm, Vmch Mods
Memory:SuperTulip PC2-5300 512MBx2
VGA: Jaton 7600GS
HDD: WD IDE 80GB
PSU: Bequiet 600W
OS:Windows XP Pro SP2 (reduced to 150MB of size)
Vcore: 1.31V
Vdimm: 2.55V
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/5...b14mgpapg0.png
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/277/sub14mgpbov1.png
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/6...b14mgpcbl8.png
I didn't try tightening timings more; but it might be possible. :)
OMG, thats very good result before.... and your memory is a beast :D
have you try lowering the trfc to arround 25? it could shave couple seconds.
running spi right after applying and closed the memset could also helps reduce few seconds mainly in the few first loops....
Here is my 3 interesting bench, unfortanetly biostar don't like 4:5 divider :( .
http://www.benchmark.co.yu/forum/att...chmentid=19850
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5...shot002bc5.png
Single channel
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/7...aimiskoja2.png
It's an absolutely awesome piece of HW....everything looks VERY polished and professional. I received mine yesterday and it seems that it'll save me the trouble of v-modding future boards. The 680i board that I'm using right now may not need the maximizer though...as it currently has no droop in the Vmem whatsoever...in fact, the Vmem actually INCREASES +.001 when the system is loaded :)
anybody know if the maxi works on commando ? think it should be better..
i saw someone use maxi on commando but they had unsoldered that coil... p5b deluxe worked without unsoldering coil on my board but not sure it i needed the coil unsoldered as i got same clocks without the maxi at 2.45v
but maxi did allow me more vdimm higher clocks past 2.45+ but at the limit as vMCH was unmodded... you need higher vMCH volts than 1.65v for higher ram clocks heh
without maxi @580mhz at 2.45v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...0s532ms_tn.png
with maxi @590mhz at 2.6v - limited by lack of vMCH :(
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B...7s360ms_tn.png
i have experienced the exact same thing, no difference in clocks going from Maxi powered @ 2.45v to board powered VDIMM @ 2.45v (or any other voltage TBH). i was thinking that perhaps unsoldering the coil would help so perhaps i will try that soon. if you do try before me, be sure to report back.
Sorry Before :)
CPU:Core2 Duo XE6800
CPU Cooling: Hyper6+
M/B:Asus Commando
Memory: Team 2x1024
VGA: asus 8800GTS
HDD: WD IDE 40GB
PSU: tagan 520W
OS:Windows XP Pro SP2 tweaked
esdee yours tRFC is awesome, can you share cooling type of memory and vdimm?
Very time indeed :) 2*1024MB is faster :D
I dream of a memory kit like this one; which model is it?
Well finally got there in the end with a help from a few friends ;)
SUB 12 second run
Who says the Nvidia 680i chipset is slow :D
http://www.itsjohnnybravo.com/11-59,969.JPG
Abit IN9 - no vmods and watercooled x6800 - the rest is air cooled. Took some effort but I'm happy with the results
UPDATED!..the scale is moving lower.
thank you guys!
vdimm is 2.6, but i think i can lower it!
cooling type is as always DELTA fan 12cm 190cfm or so, ambient temp close to 23-25*C, the mems are still naked without their heatpipe heatspreaders, they even have their s/n stickers on!
mem type is the 1200 5-5-5 (AKA D9GKX), not using the maxi shown in the pic yet, because i can't desolder the coil with my low power soldering iron so i have to wait till hipro is back from cebit!
the whole rig is set up for testing reasons, to max out certain parts of hardware for my upcoming bench session, this X6800 benched @ 5160 32m spi with my weakest cascade @ -88 @ load (1.91Vcore) my bench cascade is about -104 @ the same load :D
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7991/DSC_6404.th.jpg
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7981/DSC_6402.th.jpg
Impressive Esdee. On 965 chipset 620mhz 32M with those timings and vdimm is :eek:
:eek: What memory is that exactly? Team 6400C3?
this one is an old bench i did on kayl FrozenSS 1/4HP phase change
sub 12min run @4282mhz
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5W...6s797ms_tn.png
Alright, just to prove to y'alls that I do get what this thread is about, how about I kick off the sub 11m category? :p:
Vapor deserves at least as much credit as me for this--we also relied on tips from before, k|ngp|n and Fredyama...thanks to them all.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gautamb/32m4572.jpg
C2D E6600 - Abit AB9 QuadGT - 2 x 1GB Crucial 667 10AE
3960MHz - 12'08.609s
FSB 440MHz x 9; RAM 550MHz
http://i82.imagethrust.com/t/797535/pi321208609.jpg
3496MHz - 13'32.609s
FSB 437MHz x 8; RAM 546MHz
http://i81.imagethrust.com/t/797536/pi321332609.jpg
Dude....you made me sit in the corner of the room while it was running! Then again, we had reason, everytime I'd walk by the monitor, it would crash :lol:
Anyway, here's an easier to read camera shot with as much moire removed as I could....hopefully we can get the real screenshots off the HDD soon :)
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1976/u1132mtimebz3.jpg
Thanks again to all that helped with this :toast:
Gautam nice time !
let me setup my phase and my 11 multi :D
My apologies Mr. Photoshop. :p: And yes, there certainly was something creepy going on last night...but your contributions to the setup before we hit the "OK" button were very valuable. ;)
No fair. :( Who decided that ram like yours could exist?? :slapass:
Seriously it'll be awesome to see what you can pull off with that golden pair. Hope to see it under cascade/LN2 soon, now that'd make quite a bang. :slobber:
Here is my best score up till now.
Specs :
Asus Commando
Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 3969 Mhz (9 x 441 Mhz, 1,53 Volt bios)
2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC8000 @ 661.5 5-5-4-4-7 (2,5 Volt bios)
Everything is air cooled (cold air)
NICE RAM MAN :eek:
lovely time too :clap:
Oldscarface this is really good m8 :toast:
p.s. Can u try max at 3.6ghz 8x450@2:3 or little bit less?
Awesome ram clock, :eek: !!!
actually it's a golden pair, but nowhere like hand picked, it's actually a borrowed pair (although i feel like buying them :D) from a shop in greece :D
cascade day is tomorrow, lets hope everything runs fine! the chip is benchable 32m @ 52xx but coldbug kicks in really soon with LN2, so this cascade should be @ the sweetspot, wish me luck!
Heh, I was just telling kp earlier today that no one has beaten his sub 12m speeds yet, but it seems like that's changed. :p: Very impressive...further shows how important raw bandwidth is for SuperPi performance.
Sounds like a winning combo indeed. Hope it all works like a charm together. :)
Thats a seriously nice time Oldscarface :clap: :worship:
Now with Hipro Maximizer installed on P5B Deluxe again. The same limitations exist though to OCZ PC2-9200 FlexXLC, the memory is optimized for CAS5 (5-5-4-x) performance.
Just checking out what I can do for the Super Pi 32M low clock challenge :)
Just make it under 15 minutes with Q6600 @3190Mhz with memory @591mhz 5-5-4-5 at 2.43v vdimm :D
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5B..._memset_tn.png