Yeah, these z503s we have are quite nice :D
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Yeah, these z503s we have are quite nice :D
What bios revision # should be used for Value 1GB sticks that aren't micron for the DFI? #3? As in will be running CAS 3 at loose timings.
hi all,
can mushkin users please post some A64tweaker shots & bios version they use ? i got my corsair 3200C2 2x1GB v1.2 they should use Infineon chips like the mushkins. up to now i reached 252 @ 2.5-3-3-8 but not 100% stable.#
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=30934
Just for giggles I popped this stuff.....
NewEgg Mushkins
Into my DFI Infinity Nforce2 board, low and behold it does 225Mhz x11 8,3,3,3.0 1T @ 2.8V like falling off a log.
Could have saved me alot of crap over BH5 a year ago. I got 2 for $79ea AR a couple weeks ago. Only does 230Mhz in A64 NF4 system, but I think the Vtt bug on DFI NF4 really pisses this stuff off. NF2 Vtt is smoooth and this stuff shines.
Very cheap 2G and very good speed in NF2 system. 225x11 yeilds 3400/3300 Sandra, 3300/1350/81.9ns Everest and 36minute SuperPi32M. Prime stable, etc.
Anyone with the ballistix copmpare 704-1 and 704-2 or even 3 for most stable high htt or otherwise?
changing BIOSs is too much of a hassle for me to test....lol.
I'm also interested in the results.
Everything about the DFI is time consuming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
I know....it pisses me off.....i'd do it if the cd-rom flash worked for me, but it doesn't.
And my results are perfectly fine as is.
I wish Oscar would tune up a new bios for these ballistix gigabyte sticks though.
:slobber: That'd be nice!
Allright, this must be a one of a kind mem controller or some one of a kind sticks he has:
http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showpo...postcount=6618
Should be posted in first place in the database I guess.
This is XS database, not google for fastest memory database. I think he should get first if he comes here and meets the requirements for database.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
He's using 7x multi !
Lower multi's allow for higher memory speeds, I'd like to be able to do 300mhz + with a real multi like 10x, 11x, or 12x !
Half the Ballistix posts on the first page are with a 7x multi.
My sticks top out at 280 wither it's with a 11x, 10x, 9x, 6x multi. 280 is what they do. I can live with 280 :shrug:
Okay, here is my official submission. :) Regarding the use of a low multiplier, most of the top entries are using less than a 10. So if my results are not legit, then neither are the others. Rather than submitting the 301X7 result, I will submit the one using a 9 multi. Peace.
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7657/...x2300x98ua.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=30886
Vdimm Sierra?
DB Updated. Still need to know what the vdimm voltage is?
VDimm was 3v. Sorry, I was out getting a burger.
:bows: Awesome. Great Job. :oscar: I cant even get into windows at 302. :bsod: Sooooo No competition from me. Its a shame i upgrade my cpu and now i cant compete :shocked: Is that the new ballistix? That new stuff sure is lookin good. Crucial has the 2x1024 market cornered atm. Nobody is even comin close. :weapon: Enjoy Great job on this database! 19,000 views.. :YIPPIE:Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Thanks. Yes, it's the newer Z503 Ballistix. I've had it less than a week. The sticks did 295 at 2.8v right off the bat. I wish I could do 300X10, but I know my CPU isn't capable of 3GHz. The RAM is in my day-to-day rig and there are no OS tweaks. DFI NF4 Ultra-D and 702-2 BIOS.
Thanks Nugzo! :)
Congratulations to Sierra, and to all of the participants.
(edit: btw Sierra, did you get these from newegg or crucial themselves?)
I bought them from Crucial.
:woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Lets see who can get the highest mhz and highest FSB now
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unrealcpu
Since you can afford teh fx, u must be rich! buy us all one and we will take you up on that challenge :toast:
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying anything negitive about the results people were posting, I was just saying that I don't care if MY sticks can do 300mhz if its with a low multi cause I'm looking for 10x280+ or better ;) out of MY sticks ! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Blue078
Is 295X12 good enough? ;) Moved the Ballistix to my benching rig.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major
http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/7...x295x120ux.jpg
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=31073
Hey I got a question for all you guys (those with the ballistix), what setting is your DRAM Drive Strength and the other DRAM setting right below in the BIOS for the DFI NF4 boards?
[QUOTE=nugzoEnjoy Great job on this database! 19,000 views.. :YIPPIE:[/QUOTE]
yeah, thanks alot for taking the time to start and keep this database updated Enjoy-well done.
its an excellent read for people looking for 2 gig sticks. it'd be nice to see some more results from the pc3200 crowd as alot of people choke at the ballistix $$ so if anyone is holding back results because they can't touch the pc4000 i'd say post 'em up.
ya ! thats what I'm looking for myself ! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
I've got an X2 3800+ coming tomorrow so I'll see what its memory controller does. My X2 4400+ couldn't handle the 2gigs and any high multis. My San Diego 3700+ does better but still not what I wanted.
I think most peeps are leaving them set to Auto, I played around with them some but ended up going back to Auto cause I didn't have the time to play with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by pduan87
It would be great if someone that DID have the time could figure out what values the AUTO defaults too though.
The auto setting for drive strength seems to vary, depending on the BIOS. With 702-2 and 3500+, the A64 Tweaker showed my auto setting as "weak". With 217 BIOS and FX, auto was "normal".
I've tried my Ballistix in two boards, with two different CPU's and two different BIOS's. The sticks will do 295 or better with every multiplier I've tried. xgman convinced me to give this RAM a try. I'm glad I did. :)
Anybody did test the new ocz titanium?
I heard that after the Mushkin 2x1gb come back in stock, they're changing some things to keep up with production... anybody know what they're changing? Will they still reach 250+ 2.5-3-3?
Ok guys, well this weekend had a nice suprise, my ram got here. For clarification they are patriot's 2x1gig sticks that do 2 3 2 5 stock timings, pc 3200. I did some tests. Here are the results. I won't bother with super pi right now, but I thought I would just post it here anyway, I may do super pi later if I go to the movies or stop doing research on my computer.
stick 1 = 229 max htt, looks like 2.7 was the volts for this stick as far as htt goes
max htt for 2 3 2 5 = 216 @ 2.7 volts
max htt for 2.5 3 2 5 = 229 @ 2.7 volts
stick 2 = max htt 2.5 3 2 5 = 235
I didn't bother doing other tests because I just assumed the 2nd stick was at least as good as the first.
3dmark stable 24/7 for 2 gigs = 228htt @ 2.9 volts. while volts did not help for more htt, it is a good point to note that more volts did help stability. I could not be 3d stable at less volts. Now, while this is certianly NOT the highest htt ram, it's was only $211 shipped ;) sadly, I can only run a 5/6 divider so I am only running the ram spd in my sig (212 htt). Another interesting point, my 3dmark score was almost exactly the same running what is in my sig as what it was before when I had a gig of redline at 2 2 2 8/ 274 HTT/1T, With that last thing in mind, and adding the price into the factor, I have to deffinately say that it was money well spent. $211 is the same as the value ram out there pretty much. IMO, if you don't get the ballistix, u might as well get these. The tight timings more than make up for the lost htt. In the end, u either go all out and get the best, or u get these, the best bang for the buck, eveything inbetween these 2 sets is pointless. Looking on the results post, patriot certianly gives some of those other companies a run for it's money. Too bad the crucial isn't only 300, I would have bought it then. And now, it's time to play with the other ram settings :)
edit : I preordered them from fry's fyi.
Can someone with Infineon BE-5 2x1GB modules post their alpha-timings? Thanks
fareastgq
What bios are you using? Did you change the alpha timings?
Just want to verify that this is the stick you picked up from Fry's ...Quote:
Originally Posted by fareastgq
http://images10.newegg.com/productim...220-045-01.JPG
Looks like you can order the 2gig set through Outpost.Quote:
Originally Posted by fareastgq
hi there, here my Corsair CMX1024-3200C2 XMS3202 v1.2 @ 2.7v, Infineon -5 Rev BQuote:
Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
testing now 2.5-3-2-5 with even tighter timings, my memcontroller craps out at around 253 :-(
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=31071
http://psycho-house.org/xs/psycho.jpg
Hi ,
Have I dream or have I really read that the tracer are little better than simple ballistix pc4000 ? as I don't really want the blink light if there is no difference I will go for the simple one.
thanks
Tracers are discontinued and the new non tracers are as good or better it would seem.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomati
:toast: Wow. . . . make's me want a 57. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Friend paid the totally completely absolutely insane price of $1000-$1100 didn't get exact figure since any price that high doesn't much matter. He also purchased some very cold -20'C cooling, he's having issues with the cooling setup and lockups, but besides that his results are NOT good.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
He gets 3GHZ when using the cooling at -20'C after full load is about -4'C but at 3GHZ isn't completely stable only benches are stable. Maybe he's a bit of a noob to overclocking but he's been in the business a long time and had countless rigs so I doubt this is the case.
I spent $632 for my 4400+ before prices got jacked up at the egg, I can honestly say that it was FX-55 San Diego or this chip for my decisions, even though $$$ aren't the most important thing to me, it is all a matter of $$$ vs return % which is why I don't have an SLI setup.
In contrast had the FX-57 been such a great success in OC like say 3.3ghz oh ya and maybe been an X2 processor (would have made choice much easier) and SLI was 100% faster in benches with no one saying much about compatibility issues and slow downs I would have both "extra options"
For now I get the same 3dmarks05 (8700s score) and (9142 OC video) as my friend's FX-57 at 2.8ghz, while he can do 2.9x stable not much of an overclock in my opinion. He might just have a bum chip though too but extra mhz didn't much help my real world 3d scores and every mhz of GPU / MEM did way more than any mhz CPU would offer
does sound like a bum chip.
2.8 is air stable but 3.0 isn't even -20 stable?? What is the -20 cooling?
Minus 20 degrees temperatureQuote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
I was using 510-2, I'll also be using 2-17 later. I haven't played with anything else yet, just htt and ram volts. will do later, don't have time atm.Quote:
Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
yeah, those are the sticks.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
Thanks for the so fast and concrete reply.
Yes, I know....what is the cooling? Air with an ambient -20? Chilled liquid at -20? Phase? It makes a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
Does anyone know about the OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K kit? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227210
Does this use Infineon BE-5 just like the Mushkin HP3200? Mushkin raised their price to $322, this OCZ is $267 and has a $27 dollar rebate.
Do they use brain power PCBs? Should say 808 or 815 on one of the corners of the PCB if they do. Also could you pop off a heat spreader? I have a hunch it's Infineon BE-5, but we don't know yet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by fareastgq
I was lucky enough to get 2x1GB Ballistix Tracers for $300 (reseller account with crucial) but $322 for Mushkin's PC3200 stuff seems too expensiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Doom5
I've confirmed the OCZ uses the same BE-5 modules as the Mushkin HP3200, but I don't know for a fact that it uses the Brainpower 808 PCB like the Mushkin does. The OCZ is a fantastic deal with that rebate and should overclock as well as the Mushkin.
Hi,
i asked the guy who did the amdzone review of 2gb ram where corsair di so well - what ram he had and he said - Top line is:
CMX1024-3200C2 CMS3202v1.3
Cheers Dave
YAY sticky
Sorry for the lack of updates guys. I have received several pm's for updates and I promise I will tend to them asap. I just have been extremely busy and am without a working pc at the moment (building new again). I'll be getting on my brothers laptop as much as possible, but keep in mind I work 40+ hours a week and have many of responsibilities (links in sig). Thanks everyone for your support, this thread has a strong following and it's great to see. Thanks to Bachus (I assume) for the sticky. :toast:
I'm going to be trying out the new OCZ 2x1gig PC4000 in a week or so, and just got my X2 3800+ today but to busy to play with. I'm hopeing that it has a good memory controller so I can give this Ballistix a good run with the 10x multi.
sorry guys, I can't take the spreaders off, I need the warranty to stay intact as I won't be keeping these long. Honestly, they perform just like the ocz 2 3 2's so I wouldn't be suprised if they were exactly the same. You know what they say, it's walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..........50-60 bucks less, it's a good deal.
Did you have the OCZ stuff before? Can you at least look outside of the heat spreader on the upper right hand corner and see if they're using Brain Power PCBs? Thanks a lot!
Quote:
Originally Posted by fareastgq
Lord I dropped to #5 on the database and Nug is #2? Wow 300 amazing but no hope of me getting that speed I think. I toyed with my ram enough I think already time to enjoy my new system finally :clap:
I just ordered the new OCZ DDR500 2x1gig from Monarch IMO it will be here on Friday or Monday and I'll post results.
DB Updated. :D Sorry for the delay.
I bit the bullet on the Mushkin from ZipZoomFly last night, they must not have updated their price yet, as Mushkin is selling it for $322, and they said prices on memory have goen up substationally for high densisty modules. Guarantee ZZF will raise their price in a day or two when they realize they're losing money. Hope this stuff OCs nicely.
If anyone wants to order directly from Mushkin, put in coupon code ROJAK for 10% off.
^Those were my thoughts exactly doom. I requested e-mail notification as soon as since Mushkin raised the price- I was so surprised it was still $265 when I bought it. Happy, but surprised :D
Still $265 as of now though ;)
We'll be looking forward to the results on those mushkin. I am curious as to how consistent they are across the board. The three posted in the DB seem to be pretty close in overclocking potential.
I'm just hoping our new chips are as good as your older ones :) Some guy reported getting silver heat spreaders on his, which is odd. I'd like to be able to run about 245 with a 2.5 cas. Wish my Chaintech had more memory divers like DFI does.
How does DFI add those dividers, I thought the cpu controls that? BTW, Ninja, what Bios are you running on your DFI? My brother has the same board as you and am messing around with a few different bioses.
just got these in
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...Ballistix2.jpg
so far all i have done is lower timings to 3-3-3-8 1T, but they refuse to go any lower at stock speeds (Tried Trp 2, but it rebooted, tried Trcd 2 and it worked for a while and then rebooted) While running SuperPi i tested to see how far they would go with clockgen. I got to 270 and it failed. I have isolated my motherboard in the past to test its top limits and it tops out at 275ish, so im guessing its my boards fault it was unstable. But then as i scaled it back down i even got errors in SuperPi with 260? WTF? Then i put it back to 250 3-3-3-8 and it got an error again. I rebooted and am now running SuperPi again with 250 3-3-3-8 1T and it seems stable again. So whats the trick with these sticks? I see some people undervolt them to 2.6 or 2.7 even though they are stock set at 2.8, do they prefer low voltage? My motherboard BIOS has an option for Drive Strength, i can set it to Normal or Weak but im not sure what to do there. Whats the lowest timings i should be able to hit with these at stock speeds? So far i have only tested at stock 2.8Vdimm. This is my first time to have ram that can actually overclock, so this is all new to me. Thanks
I had better success when >250 with 2.7v except when I was trying to top out at 290 which I had at 3.0 and 3.1v but 270 had 2.8v and it errored put to 2.7v at 270 and it was stable, strangeQuote:
Originally Posted by Budwise
623-3Quote:
Originally Posted by Doom5
this is high as i can get it before it craps out. Im 99% sure its due to my motherboard as i have isolated it before and its max is around 270-275. This so far is not 32M stable but is 1M stable SuperPi. My NB temps shoot up to around 30C as opposed to the usual 9C at 270, so i definately think the ram could do alot more.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=32182
Hey what's the consensus on Orange (slots 2&4) vs. Yellow (1&3) on the DFI LP NF4 boards for these 2x1 tests? Anyone tested one vs. the other?
I haven't tested it, but I'm not busy now, so I'll give it a shot. I'm using the orange slots now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Truckchase!
I've always heard orange worked better for non Winbond high voltage memory.. Ninja, have you tried the -1 and -2 bios revisions at all, or only the -3? Thanks!
Well I just tried to boot @ 258 mhz using the yellow slots and it would hang at the windows logo screen. So my conclusion is that the orange slots are better on my board. Also the XP90 heatsinks cover the ram better if they are in the orange slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doom5
As far as bios, I have only tried the -3.
Has anyone seen any reviews on the OCZ PC4000 2x1GB kit (OCZ5002048ELGE-K), or know how it compares to the Ballistix?
Not sure which to get.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaWreck
Thanks, I'll try a bit of an experiment as well. I only have one module sofar,(ballistix) but it conks out @ 287. I'll use the same settings and switch to the orange slot. Results will be posted here as soon as I complete testing.
Just picked up these gems, Memtest stable 8 hours+so far at 540 mhz at 3 3 3 6
These babies fly, can do 245 at 2.5 3 3 6 all at 2.6v
http://www.abxzone.com/forums/attach...chmentid=19275
SO CAS 2, 2.5, and 3 all work. Seems like the Patriots are very flexible and have a great bang/buck ratio. Gaaah! I don't want to buy more DDR memory! .... but maybe a couple of these sticks would get me off the bottom of the database. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gaspar
Damn, the Mushkin is backordered on ZZF already! It lasted about 2 days, must be they're selling it too cheap
Memtest stability means little...sorry. Please post SPI, OCCT or Prime stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaspar
UHm well ok then, http://www.abxzone.com/forums/attach...chmentid=19270Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
IM running SuperPI again though with 3 3 3 6 timings 2.6v
OK heres SuperPI at 540 3,3,3,6 remember these are dddr400 sticks that cost me 220 dollars!
oops
Now just throw up a CPU-Z verification link and EnJoy can get you in the database.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaspar
Sure, how exactly can
I do this?Sorry Ive never really had to do this.
OH yeah by the way 540 3 3 2 5 super pi stable too
Copy and past from the first post in thread. But now CPUZ 1.30 is newist versionQuote:
Originally Posted by Gaspar
Quote:
To get a CPU-Z verified link, get CPU-Z 1.29, open it and go to the "About" tab and click the button that says "Validate".
So far I'm extremely disappointed with this HP3200. Came with silver heat spreaders on Brainpower 815(Why not 808?). Can't go further than 220 at cas 2.5 it seems Voltage does not help AT ALL.
Why did I even bother paying extra for this memory? Doh. Running on a Chaintech VNF4 2.5-3-2-8
OK heres a validation http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=32467 Hope this helps
Just got my Ballistix (Z503s) in and I am running into some memtest errors at 280... trying to iron them out... what is the collective decision on the best BIOS for these bad boys? I am currently using 704-1.
I found 704-1 to work fine, 704-2 and 704-3 worked fine too ! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Lood007
It may be the memory controller and not the memory.
I start to get anywhere from 10-15 errors in Test5 in Memtest86+ at 280 at 2.85V. The memory is getting mucho hot at this voltage and temperature... by feeling the mem, it seems to be around 47-50 degrees celcius... Too hot in my opinion.
You think the high temps = the few random errors?
what are you running a 10x multi ?
If you try a low multi like 8x or 9x and the errors go away then its your memory controller, and there ain't much you can do about that !
My 4400+ controller craps out at 270mhz or so using the 10x but with 8x I can run the memory at 290mhz without errors.
Lower the voltage. I had same errors in test 5 till i lowered to 2.6v.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lood007
Also use 0780 tref
Major did you get the new sticks yet?
I am currently running a 7x multiplier at 2.7V at 280 and am still running into some issues... i think they are heat related, as the sticks are quite hot still
Thanks for the tips...Quote:
Originally Posted by nugzo
trying that now....
Just recieved my Mushkin HP3200 kit in the mail today and I noticed it uses the Brainpower 815 PCB, whereas the older stuff used the possibly better 808PCB. Also, the head spreaders are silver.
This ram won't overclock at all compared to what I've seen from the old stuff. It maxes out at 220 Cas 2.5-3-2, raising the voltage from 2.6 actually causes instability in memtest! Is this even Infineon BE-5 anymore?
I'm extremely disappointed considering what I paid for this memory and that I could have gotten the same results from the Patriot 2GB with BP pcbs and BE-5 memory, or better...
ETA Monday ;) Along with a X2 4600+ and Abit AN8 SLI to play with :DQuote:
Originally Posted by chunkylover77
Try Tref of 2560 thats 166mhz 3.9usQuote:
Originally Posted by Lood007
Wow with all this hardware you get are you able to sell some of it I hope :eek: I do spend lots of cash on hardware but I have a big rule that I won't have anything laying around to depreciate and I always sell previous rig in parts or complete before upgrading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Major