Vcore is 1.60 idle but drops to 1.55v under load.
65c at full load, but what the h3ll its two cpus being cooled by one copper heatsink. :D
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Vcore is 1.60 idle but drops to 1.55v under load.
65c at full load, but what the h3ll its two cpus being cooled by one copper heatsink. :D
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Nice, but damn hot :D .Quote:
Originally Posted by LBJGH
Well guys, here is the deal so far (very preliminary)
I had some issues this evening with well how can I put this, it stemmed around finally the NVIDIA Raid array creation process. What would happen is I created my Raid 0 on 2xSATA raptors 36GB well after consequental reboot the bios would NOT go to where it tries a boot device, would do everything up to that point, processor and mem ID etc. Since this is my first DFI board I really had no idea what I was doing, I tried to set memtest upon boot and it didn't work so I thought I was missing something to get it to work.
Long story short everytime I reloaded to optimal settings I could boot to XP boot CD, finally I narrrowed it down to the Nvidia Raid, I wiped the drives and instead of optimal stripe size I selected 128k stripe size and to wipe the drives again.
Now at 5am I am testing... testing... so far I am only doing memtest86 I have tested 250, 260, 270, 280 FSB and no errors test #5 is the most torturous right? I have ran the 4400+ at 2600 so far but naturally with no XP OS yet I am unable to prime test the cores.
Can someone please help me out and give me the links to all the verification pages so I can be as helpful to everyone else as you all have been to me in making my newest PC upgrade decision? Basically what version of Prime and what other utilities are the best to guarantee I give accurate overclocking results and verified results.
Look forward to providing much more information tomorrow, incidentally if this CPU and RAM overclock like a champ it will be the first time I've gotten lucky in my selections in about 5 yrs.
I wouldn't get too hung up on memtest test #5. Its fine to make sure your stable enough to get into windows without corrupting a critical boot file. There seems to be a gap between memtest stable and load stable in windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
Not sure if the following applies to your dual core but here's what I look for when I want to test my rig.
My stabiltiy tests start with SuperPi 32M runs
CPU-Z to verify your CPU speed.
I've been using Systools lately to do a quick check on stabilty prior to the lengthy 32M runs.
Clockgen for manually changing speed inside windows.
Once I'm good on the CPU/memory side I use Futuremark benchmarks to test for game stability.
After that it just games for the final "real world" stability tests.
Looking forward to seeing you results. :)
@Pentium777
You can use Prime95 24,13 voor stressing and here is an explanation how to run prime for X2
Ok i have a weird issue.
i HAD been at 2750mhz 11x250 ,easy into windows and gaming but after a few days i started getting random crashes,sometimes after a day somketimes after a hr.
so i primed ( well tried and it failed) i put my memory timings back to stock,as i had tightend them up to the max. and started again.
currently at 2706mhz 11x246, rock solid 24/7 5+ hrs prime, and anything else i can throw at it.
BUT
whenever i try to boot up at 250 or higher (even at 10x260) pc hangs at windows loading screen :(
i dont understand how having my memory at stock has effected my overclock.
i figure im missing something but cant put my finger on it ggrrr
voltages are all the same 3.2 mem,1.55 core,1.58 nbridge,1.28 pwmic
currently confussed
Hiho,
my 4200+ is running dual prime stable with 264*11=2904 Mhz @ 1,52V HTT=4 now. The whole systemspecs you find in my signature. Everthing including cpu, chipset and vga is watercooled. Well 290*10 would be better, but my ocz pc-4800 modules don't want to do this. Maybe 2,5 3 3 6 is reachable at this htt speedlevel. BIOS 704-3 is in use. cpu ihs removed.
http://home.arcor.de/ar0056616279/Rechner/Prime1024.jpg
what do the X2's prefer or whats best for performance?
high FSB/tight timings or mhz?
High htt + tight timings + high clockspeed is best, but higher clockspeed and lower htt is better then lower clockspeed and higher htt, i think. If you get 100Mhz more with lowering htt speed system is faster than the other way round.
I would so love encoding with a dual at 2900 mhz :slobber:
Wow, I didn't realise it's possible to run a different vcore value per core on an X2. I've looked in the bios and there's still only one vcore setting. How did you do it?Quote:
Originally Posted by LBJGH
Ok found my sweet spot of 282 on Ram with 2.6v no errors for hours on memtest. Now the dillema, how do I get my CPU speed higher without going too high? at 9x multi I'm ok for 2538 but I think the CPU has more in it, I tried 9.5x and it put the ram at 267 DDR535?? Don't understand that. I think 10x multi 2820 will be too much on air.
Any help would be appreciated so I can load XP SP2 and test my chip on air with dual core primed
Yea how the heck did he do that? Is there a different application outside of the BIOS that allows you to set seperate vCore settings?Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
I'm guessing its a bug with vcore reporting for the 2nd core, especially with it showing as a perfect 1.300vcore which is default.
ya it was a vcore reporting bug... 99.9% of the time the voltage is identical on both cores.
MMIQHW, great cpu! :slobber:
Needs 0.1V less for 2900 MHz than my one. I'm quite sure you can hit 3 GHz dual primestable.
It work like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
8,5 x ramspeed / 9
9,5 x ramspeed / 10 ==> 9,5 x 282 /10 = 267,9
10,5 x ramspeed / 11
Since the Athlon's 64 x,5 MP don't work, you can use it as an divider.
I agree, first find the max of your X2 Pentium777 and than te the max of your ram.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gundamit
Hopefully someone can give me some direction to this issue.
Overnight prime95 @ 2538 1.4v no errors on both cores and ram was tested all day no errors at 282.
After all night of prime testing I stopped both processes normally and exited prime95 and closed smartguardian, now:
1. I can't click on Start button or use keyboard to select it either, can't click on taskbar at the bottom.
2. Verified CPU usage went to 0% after closing prime
3. Mouse moves around and I can click on my computer which after clicking takes a considerable amount of time to open, try to go to control panel and the icons take about 2 min to appear.
This is a fresh load of XP Pro SP2, furthermore using Nvidia Raid 0 stripe on 2 SATA drives on 1,2 there is a safely remove hardware that lists both drives as single drives on each controller is that normal? First I've ever seen that before, they are both in RAID and work that way right now.
Only thing I installed was BIOS 623-3 then during XP Pro SP2 install I loaded the Raid and ATA drivers, after XP install I installed Nvidia drivers 6.66, that was it.... Am I missing something because it seems fubared, hope someone can help! :confused:
@xxmartin
I've testes 3Ghz. No way with my system environtment i think. Maybe it's the ocz modsteam: 12 volt is 11,51-11,58 in smartguardian under load. Or I need a mora radiator like you use. You've a NeXXos cpu cooler too, right? Ram isn't the problem, at 3GHz I've used 180 divider for priming. It fails immediately. With a vapo and a stronger psu some 100Mhz over 3Ghz shouldn't be a problem with this cpu i think. Well, there no money for this at the moment. The cpu was expensive enough :mad:
Need a quick favor. I'm getting ready to install a 4800+ and am gathering all of the required things needed. The last thing I need is the AMD X2 processor driver, but AMD's download is not working. Does anyone have it that could send it to me? If you do, could you pm me?
Thanks.
Shawn
No worries Shawn, winxp will install fine with the default drivers and recognize the cpu(s) correctly. Once you have everything installed you can install the AMD drivers.
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Originally Posted by shawn1998
Which processor driver are you both referring to, I only installed the latest 6.66 revision of nvidia driver suite, I have not installed anything processor specific, shows ACPI Multiprocessor and in Processors shows both X2 4400+ is there something else I need to install?
Here is a direct link to the file to download:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...ies/amdcpu.exe
Thanks, that direct link worked great!
Shawn
those of you at 2.6GHz on air, how much vCore are you using?
and what kind of load temps?
here is my current progress
http://www.supload.com/thumbs/default/2.6ghz.JPG
I had to run 1.52v to get it completly stable.. I am on Koolance Exos-2 load temps 46c
I am running 2.6Ghz @ 1.47V on air (XP120)..
found out though that Core1 is really weak. Core2 has never failed Prime95 yet all the way up to 2.8Ghz while this is max stable for Core1 and keep decent temps..
BTW, are you guys posting the voltage set in the BIOS, or the one shown by CPU-Z?
I'm at 1.5125 in the BIOS, but only around 1.488 on CPU-Z
Mine was checked with a DMM.. The Blasted DFI undervolts Badly on mine :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender17
well I went for 2.7GHz and got a nice BSOD
was fine at 2.65GHz
dare I crank the voltage a bit more?
temps are still maxing around 48 C
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=28829
But it's not prime stable, but fine in Windows though.
I decided to crank my vCore upto 1.525, but I still couldn't run 2.65GHz for 5 seconds without one of the Prime 95 instances failing.
I would like to keep my vCore at a max of 1.5, so it looks highly unlikely I'll be able to get anything above 2.6GHz.
I'm back at 2.6GHz and vCore down to 1.475, Prime 95 is fine after about 5 min.
Now I just wanna see how low I can go with the vCore and still be stable at 2.6GHz.
I'd like to be able to go back to my Yate Loon fan on the CPU, since it's much quieter than this Panaflo M1A.
Disappointing reports for those wanted phasechange results.
I am stuck at 2.9ghz dual prime 95 stable @ 1.65v v-core. Chip is exceptionally hot -20c idle and +6c dual prime 95!!!!
1.7v will stabilize at higher temp which I don't want to use 24x7 anyway. Anyone want to trade this 4200+ + cash for nice clocking x2? :P I really want to see how far I can go single phase on X2 with this setup... was hoping for 3ghz dual prime95 stable but oh well -_-; Gonna have to start looking for 1/2 HP compressor that is queit and small but chances of that happening isn't any time soon... sigh.
(Due to heatload of chip, I believe typical 3-500mhz gain going from water to phase is not going to be possible until this power issue is sorted out) I gained measly 200-250mhz going from water to phase this time.
Hey guys I am back to report. Unfortunately one core better than both, sort of makes me wish I had gotten the FX now as one core can do 2.7++ on air with no problems at 1.5v, first core at 1.5v 2700 (270x10) craps out with rounding error about 12 minutes into prime, other was 7 hrs+
PWM IC worries me as it runs over 60'C when 100% CPU utilization anyone else have theirs this high in temp? DFI Ultra-D btw.
As far as ram goes I am maxing out at around 285-290 or so this is the 2x1GB Ballistix, basically my max OC is around 265x10 at 1.5v or I can run 282x9 1.4v all day/night long. Not sure which I prefer yet... probably will take higher CPU overclock since over 280 is pushing the ram quite a bit.
I guess if I had 2 perfect cores this would have been sold as a 4800+ right? lol I certainly can't be too disappointed since this is the best hoped for overclock of any CPU I've had to date. 2xFX-55? a lot of people say that but what about the fact each core is only 64-bit memory controller? that's half the FX just curious about the affect it has on performance.
Again running all on air 2x120mm + 1x92mm case fans in a Tsunami Dream case with XP-120 and 120mm fan on top of it, I do have 2x120mm 104 CFM fans compared to the 2 I have now which are like 50-75 CFM arriving tomorrow from sidewinder (nice people there). Might help my OC or just help stability we'll see.
Just wondering what the safest 24/7 voltage would be provided good air cooling. I can run 2.7+ with 1.5-1.55 depending how high I go but I was curious the general opinion of safety at these volts 24/7 instead of just benching.
Would like to have my cpu alive for a while :)
Well guys I am at 2.75 (275x10) right now on Crucial Ballistix that do up to 287 so far.
I can not seem to be stable running both cores 100% Prime95 on XP-120 btw. However I can run either core at 100% and have perfect stability. Since there really aren't much in the way of multithreaded apps / games I will be utilizing should I consider leaving at 2.75, might have to leave at 1.55v also or 1.525 possibly.
Or do you guys think I should bring it down to 2.532 ghz and run 282x9 which is my best 100% overnight stable settings, seems that when I run 3dmarks 05 the CPU score really doesn't help much at all, I guess I am still GPU limited even with a XFX 7800 GTX 490/1300
Opinions would be greatly appreciated, I could probably live with around 2.6ghz problem is the 9x-10x multi gap in between I am experiencing, would have to lower to ram speed to bump to 10x multi.
Does ram speed really affect total performance much on AMD systems?
The nf3 ultra-d undervolt by 0.2v so a minor bios tweak brings it back to stock voltages however this does limit bleeding edge o/c's.
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Originally Posted by hag6br
Hi!
I have been reading this tread from the beginning, with great interest. As it so happens I have placed an order on Komplett.no for a X2 4800+ core, but the delivery date is not confirmed as of yet.
I got a feeling that the tread startet with quite a lot of optimism regarding the expected perfomance of the X2 series, but now I read more and more about heat problems, underperforming core problems and other problems regarding OC'ing the X2's, so I wonder: Should I cancel my order for the 4800+, and perhaps go for a FX 57 core instead? (today I saw a tread regarding heat problems with the FX 57 also).
I'm looking for a mild OC with H2O cooling, no hardcore stuff. I'm not a demanding multi application user, but I can see the benefits of dual cores in the daily use of my computer. What do you think?
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AMD Athlon 64 FX 55 "Clawhammer" @ 2 730 MHz, MSI K8N Diamond SLI, Gainward GF 6800 Ultra GS, Corsair XMS 4400 cl. 2,5 2*512 MB, OCZ Powerstream 520 W, Lian Li PC75USB, Mist Tsunami single rad H2O system.
I think people are getting a mild 20-25% overclock on average. Some more, some less. My 4200 is stable at 2.6 on air. I think the 4800 is vastly overpriced as is the FX 57. I appreciate this $700 dollar chip replacing and outperforming my dual Opteron system at a fraction of the price. I think effectively overclocking the average x2 chip require water cooling and luck, some are really lucky and can run high speeds with low volts. As always it's a crap shoot.
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Originally Posted by pentium777
Memory Bandwith is nice but you should take the max OC on you cpu over it, if you have the choice between 275x10=2750 or 9x282=2538 then definetly the 2750 OC will be the better choice. Even if you have to lower it down to say 270x10 to get it prime stable your still talking about 160mhz more OC on the cpu ;)
A word of warning about Komplett, i placed an order with the for the 4400+ at the beginning of this month - at the time they said it would b in stock the following week...they kept changing thier expected date of delivery every week. And even looking at the site today, it doesn't seem as though they have any instock yet. Unless some1 has recieved a 4400+ from them i stand to be corrected, as i ended up getting mine elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Futen1
The theory of using as little vCore at whatever clock speed you are at certainly applies heavily for the X2s. My 3500+ Winchester would be quite happy running 2.6gz at 1.55v to 1.72 quite happily without serious overheating on water for example. Cranking up vCore on X2s seems to increase the heat output exponentially, >1.6vCore even on water might b asking for too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Futen1
As i've asked many people looking at getting X2s, what do want to use it for? Gaming? Video Encoding or Content creation? If you're looking a gaming processor go for the FX 57. If you are one of those who run dozens of applications at the same time, or do a lot of content creation then i'd recommend the X2.
On water, average results seem to be around 2.6Ghz-2.7Ghz for the X2s. And i'd recommend having 2Gb of memory if you'll b doing content creation, which also seems to work pretty well if you'll b running some of the latest games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Futen1
Unless you want to hope for the fastest OC to 3ghz from an FX-57 which is 1000-1100 USD, I would do the X2 4400+ as it is the same thing as the 4800+ and I am doing 2.7ghz on air with mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Futen1
From after you enter your information in XP SP2 setup and click network typical it takes 3-4 min to install Windows XP SP2 it is screaming fast. An excellent value at its price and performance.
The 4800+ is actually more expensive than FX 57 on Komplett.no right now, but I suspect that is due to an error on the web site.Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
Your core is rather good, is it not? Not all the people I have seen can do 2,7 MHz on air :)
One subject not mentioned a lot is the question of what type of RAM this dual core prefers, if any. Partly why I want to get myself a new core is that my FX 55 Clawhammer has proved a bit picky with what type of RAM to use. The Corsair XMS 4400 Twinx set I use is perhaps better suited for the improved memory controllers of the X2 series.
I've found the Ven/San/x2 line much more forgiving of any type of memory with the exception of some of my Hynix RAM. The latest DFI BIOS has also been greatly appreciated in that respect. I doubt you will have any problems with the Twinx beyond the usual tweaking one does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Futen1
That's great news! I was never able to tweak the RAM timings 100% on my current set up, I suspect caused by a combination of the memory controller on the FX 55 and BIOS issues. MSI are not so keen on providing new and better BIOS'es as the DFI crew. And yes, I had a DFI NF4 SLI DR, but it borke down and I had to RMA it. That put me off DFI for some time, and I returned to my previous mobo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ugly n Grey
I just picked up a X2 4600 and in a DFI SLI rig it`s very happy running at 233fsb at std voltages which is the limit of the 2 gig OCZ memory kit I have. I hope to test with some better memory in a week or so.
Ive manages this so far though it appears to be the max on both cores
Nice, what memory timings are you using?
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Originally Posted by Gaspar
To my complete dismay after 4 days of testing my X2 4400+ and finding a 100% stable prime and ram tests for 24 hrs I experienced many problems last night in BF2, apparently this game does some type of stress the torture tests don't.
Problems ranged from Punkbuster error in file/memory, to disconnected from servers unexpectedly (was not my ISP I had another PC steady pinging many sites no lost packets)
Then of course there was the occasional boot to desktop. I'm having to back down my speed from the 2.7ghz that was stable 270x10 to 260x10 now with still the same 1.525v it sucks bad any opinions?
I was looking around at AMD and noticed that there are now 2 Cores for the X2's..
The site shows an E4 and an E6 core..
Wonder what they changed?
Just looked and mine is an E4 core...
I am prime/game/bench solid at 2.7,246x11,6-2-2-2, 1.55 volts is needed though.
watercooled so im trying to find out whats safest volts under water.
Game solid I thought I had that covered too I played EQ2 for over an hour no issues but BF2 was a different story. I might just try lowering ram/fsb to 246 and 11 multi I was hearing that sometimes multi and FSB affect OS dramatically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Usurper
At least with BF2 I can get on an empty server and test everything for stability, I don't know about the 1.55v I see people @ 1.6-1.7 but are people >1.5 just bench testing or do people leave 24/7 running at higher 1.55-1.6v and is that safe?
I'm running Prime95 right now and at 56'C 1.525v 260x10 no errors for 2 hrs in Prime95 with memory testing as well, high temp is due to ambient temp in house currently 83'F it is not that high after work when I'm home though.
What part of the stepping do you look at to see if its an E4 or E6 core?Quote:
Originally Posted by hag6br
1.55-1.6 is fine. Anything beyond that may get a little hairy. Also take into consideration that every cpu is unique and just because you saw somebody run spi1m @ 1.95V, it doesn't mean that yours can too ;)
ha, yes I know exactly what you mean that's insta-death voltage right? I am just curious because I knew the max safe volts on P4 but wasn't sure of the AMD X2, (my first AMD ever)Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I just don't want to toast a fairly expensive processor 1.55 even 1.6v you think 24/7 is perfectly safe, that would definately solve my stability problems for sure. I run the XP-120 with a 104 CFM fan and 3x120mm 1x92mm fans in case very good air movement.
Got a 4400+
CCBWE 0521RPMW
1264618F50205
Damn thing isn't what I hoped...
OC's to 2.57Ghz at 1.45v
Finally, last night with some loose memory timings I was able to go 2.6Ghz at 1.5v (dual prime stable for 12hrs)
I'm using an xp-90. Am considering some ducting to get fresh air to the cpu as it get's freakin' hot!! Load at about 59c!!!!
By the way, it's still primin' while I'm at work today... by the time I get home it will hopefully be 100% load at 2.6Ghz for 24hrs!!! I'm hoping to increase it a little bit... 2.64 will allow me to use another multi for my memory and keep my good timings.
Thanks all.
Hm anyone got a 3800+ X2 yet ? I wonder how they OC..
So far i've been able to get 2.6Ghz Prime stable on 1.45V but i can't go much higher then that even with 1.55V and temps start to really climb then. My load temp right now at 1.45V is around 45-46C with an XP-90.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender17
Under Cpu-Z look at the Revision Box.. It will tell you what it is..Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
it`s blanked out on mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by hag6br
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...x2firstOC1.jpg
Version 1.29 of CPU-z...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rukee
http://www.cpuid.org/index.php
strange, that one shows mine as a E4, but opens with an error everytime and the multiplyer/fsb/memory are all blanked out now.Quote:
Originally Posted by [timko]
So which are better to have??? the E4 or the E6?
If I can get a 4200 oem for $499, should I????
I have a 4400+ and mine is an E6. The only difference between the E4 and the E6 is the cache size right? There aren't any other improvements in the E6 is there?Quote:
Originally Posted by hag6br
zip zoom fly has retail ver for that price, i just ordered one. Im hoping that will hold me till yohan's second gen comes out (dektop edition) or something really sweet from amd.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad mikee
I looked.. Per AMD, All 4400+ and 4800+ are E6 cores.Quote:
Originally Posted by burningrave101
But for 4200+ and 4600+, they list both an E4 and E6 core for them..
When your testing for stability make sure you do some runs with p95 on large inplace fft's... i primed 14 hours on the small inplace ffts at 2640mhz or so, no problem.. but within 15 minutes of running large ffts i errored out. And in CSS after about 35 min or so id crash.
Wow this cpu runs hot... especially with the IHS on.. here is my OC so far, just over 2607mhz 237x11. Bios says 1.5v, SmartGuardian reporting 1.45V. Is there any danger in running my PWM IC at ~65C under full tilt load? I don't know if I am going to be able to fit a fan down in there to keep them cool.
Also I reversed my fan on my xp120 (now blowing away from the cpu), and my cpu temps dropped probably 6-7 degrees, of course YMMV.
Memory is Mushkin Level 2 PC3500.. running at 2-3-3-8 @ 3.1v, 1T
Update-
Ran large fft's overnight looks like I am prime stable at 2600 *hurray*. I also dropped in a 60mm fan blowing right onto the PWM area so the max I've seen it is 59, but it tends to stay about 57. Cpu is now maxing at around 61-63 with the fan on my xp120 blowing away from the cpu.
Seems allot of early 4200 & 4600's are toledo cores that where cache crippled which would explain why there are E6 4200 & 4600's.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2484
That could mean not enough chipset voltage or unstable memory though - or perhaps your mobo just doesn't like the clock. Your CPU clock is stable I'd say after 14hours small FTT's so something else is causing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by halcy
Seems weird that they would do that considering that it's much more expensive to produce the 1mb cache with respect to yields etc but then again, big corporations have always bemused me - I'll leave that to the city people :DQuote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
I still dont know why Anandtech compared the power consumption of that 4200+ to the 3800+ even if it is an E6 core because half its cache would be disabled and not working anyways. They should of compared to a working 4400+ or 4800+.Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
i am wondering abt this too...........Quote:
Originally Posted by sai
Here is a benchmark everyone can use to compare their SMP performance.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=858272
yeah, well, Anandtech does an awful lot comparisons that don't make a whole lot of sense. Plus, they don't even run a divider on the memory when trying find a motherboards highest ocwhen they review them.
I downloaded the newest version from thier website and here is that thread again:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=858272
Here are my results:
this other relative
computer computer performance
Dhrystone 2.1 19204 11682 kDhryst. 164 percent
Whetstone 2958 2522 MFLOPS 117 percent
Eight queens problem 18994 17665 pps 107 percent
Matrix operations 517539 148309 k ops 348 percent
Number crunch 430402 370078 k ops 116 percent
Floating point 45637 39423 k ops 115 percent
Memory throughput 2044980 603339 kB/sec 338 percent
Total CPU 214 percent
Total FPU 116 percent
Average 186 percent
Application Performance 207 percent
I'd say not too shabby :-)
Hottdamn my x2 4200+ chip is a freak. im at 2803 mhz on watercooling with an fsb of 295mhz :banana:
getting a 4800+ seems to be a waste of money since they dont go much higher. better invest the money in some good memory.
well, My 4200+ is liking The OCZ PC3500 Gamer Extreme :)
Specs:
AMD 4200+ @ 270x10
DFI NF4 SLI-D (704 Bios)
1GB OCZ PC3500 GX @ 1.5-2-2-0, 3.2V, 9/10 divider (245 FSB)
Aircooled with XP120..
Need More Vdimm to get Ram higher. This Bios only goes to 3.2V :(
I've seemed to hit a brick wall with this chip(X2 4400+), its stable with 1.53v @ 2.71ghz the thing won't go past that point even with @ 1.7v. I'm using watercooling though(6mm tubing Koolance at that) so it looks like I'm at the end of the road here. :(
have you tried playing with the 10x multi and see what results you get there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deus Excalibur
I find it quite alot easyer/more stable on lower vcore to OC from there on my x2 4400 ;)
I find the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by lv_88
Smids and LV 88 you really found that 10x multi was more stable? I found the opposite trying to run 270x10 vs 246x10 resulted in many different issues, most of which prime was not as stable. Maybe you suggest I should revisit my testing perhaps?
I'm currently at 11x245, 1.53V are needed. Just using cpu burn in to try and go higher will no vcore increase. Current load temps are 45C but ambient air is quite toasty :(
Happy with my 2GB of ballistix tracer. Haven't messed with the timings but it is fine at 265/3-3-3-8-1T/1:1
Certainly. It showed in how long it took prime to fail (all at same Vcore/Vdimm, only change was multi @ 2.6ghz) 11x - prime failed after 11 minutes, 10x prime failed after 5 hours, 9x prime failed after 17minutes. This repeated for a lower vcore at the same 2.6ghz. 11x - instant, 10x - 20 minutes, 9x - 3 minutes. I know if it's unstable it can fail at any time but this is quite indicative of stronger stability on the 10x multi. Also, at my current stable clock with the different multis - 11x = 1.51V, 10x = 1.48v, 9x = 1.50vQuote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
Very interesting, I am also curious what your ITE sensors report when you are doing dual core prime, I am between 54-56'C, which seems a bit high 47-49'C single core prime and about 38-40'C Idle, with XP-120 and 104CFM 120mm fan blowing air down.
Case has a 120mm 104CFM blowing cold air in, 120mm rear to exhaust heat, and 92mm 74CFM Delta on side panel to bring more cool air onto CPU and MB.
I guess I will try to revisit the 10x multi again to see if I can do better at 2.7ghz, currently I can run all night with 246x11 (2.7) dual core will occasionally fail though random hours later.
44C load dual prime/38 load single prime/30C idle - watercooled.
Well my X2 seems to need a load of voltage to get over 2.6Ghz - IMO the extra voltage/heat isn't worth the extra Mhz so looks like 2.6Ghz for my everyday setting. this is 10x260 1.5V dual core load is around 40C.
Now just need to get to work on my graphics card...
Will load dual cores from one instance :cool:
Now if I could only get 2 instances of OCCT to run (anyone?)
The 10x multi still doesn't help me break the 2.71ghz barrier : / Anyone have some more suggestions? I need to get this baby higher to feed my 7800s more power :)
A single 7800 GTX will not require over 2.7Ghz and that's just fact. I have many tests that confirm it on my own box but there are also plenty of articles out there with the same information. Going from 2.5 to 2.7GHZ gave me less of a result in 3D benchmarks and real life gaming than 490-500 on GPU (single 7800GTX)Quote:
Originally Posted by Deus Excalibur
SLI 7800 GTX (waste of $$$ in my opinion for 30-50% increase at 100% increase in card) will probably take some more CPU power unless you run >=1600x1200 with 4xFSAA etc any high res with high quality pushes the card more than CPU
Hey guys just a got a new 4400+
Initial overclock without diddlng around very much im in windows at 11x240 gaming doing whatever, I am at 1.5 vcore, is that high for this cpu?
what should I expect on air cooling with this proc?
Scratch that 11x 250 now, just needed to reset cmos
Is this going to be made a sticky. My 3800 X2 is still priming at 2.95ghz 1.6v for 8hrs now.
very nice! GJ i can only hope to get a good steppingQuote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
Some games are more CPU depending than GPU and vice versa. CS:S (source engine) seems to be more CPU demanding than GPU while BF2 is more GPU demanding. Also, keep in mind there are plenty of people playing game with 1600x1200 with all settings up :) I find about 2.7-2.8ghz with 7800gtx to be sweet spot for 1600x1200 with all settings up. In CS:S, I do notice bit of diff on lowest FPS with about 3ghz while in BF2, its more of eyecandy on FPS meter going up slightly in general :P If they make very CPU bound game based on source engine... my guesses are even 7800gtx can use faster CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by pentium777
OH NO!
i restarted tried to bring my cpu into windows at 260 fsb and everything was going normal, windows loading screen...then POOF
system instantly powered down, then dead.
I have been trying to fix it for the last hour, when you hit the power button, the fans and led's on the sli-dr light up for about half a second and then it cuts out again.
I popped the 4400+ out and tried to power up, same problem, i tried using an older 20 pin 470 watt PSU, same problem...
i have a 3000+ kicking around, but i dont think that it would make a difference right, if the board wont do anything with no CPU in socket, ity has to be the board right?
Did i FRY MY PSU, MOBO, or new cpu!!!
all three maybe?
I had the same thing when my CPU got too hot. Try resetting your CMOS so it selects low voltage again, this might help.Quote:
Originally Posted by dsumanik
Him
Heres my first impressions with a 3800 x2 processor...www.overclockers.co.uk were doing them for £270 on Friday
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...IME10hours.jpg
10 Hours PRIME stable @ 2.6ghz with 1.30v ! For the first couple of hours of PRIMING, I was also running SuperPI 32m over and over again. Max temp seen was 44 Degrees
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=30830
Very stable with highest temps 38-45 Degrees LOAD, and low to mid 20's IDLE. This Vapochill Extreme HSF is the best air cooling I've used.
Just enjoying playing with apps and seeing if 2 cores are noticably better on performance than one !
That's on air? That would make this 3800 better than 95% of all X2's including the 4800+. Fluke or trend? What is the new stepping?Quote:
Originally Posted by njkid32
I've got an X2 3800+ coming today via fedex, I should have results later tonight. I'm hopeing that it's NOT a fluke ! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by xgman