So the vx works fine on he neo 2 board ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Mole
My mem dont like this board I think cant get it over 210 :confused:
Have tested v from 2.9-3.6 and all sorts of bios :(
So my next mem will be vx :D
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So the vx works fine on he neo 2 board ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Mole
My mem dont like this board I think cant get it over 210 :confused:
Have tested v from 2.9-3.6 and all sorts of bios :(
So my next mem will be vx :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacke2k
yeay my vx does 268 in dfi but did 264 in the neo so pretty good for it.
How are you cooling your systems?
Im looking toward the VX but I dont know want to have heat issues.
I have an arctic silencer for the cpu and a 80mmfan in front of my PC4400c25 (Lian Li PC-75 case), would be enough?
Also for a everyday setup would be better the VX or better kept my corsair sticks?
I want to change because my memory controller seems to be going to the dark side :) I used to get 300Mhz out of my memory, but now I get mem test errors even at specs (275mhz 2.5-4-4-6). lowering to 260 its ok, so maybe 260 or so is the new mhz limit to my memory controller and thats why im thinking about the VX's (no money to change CPU and some guy is in line for my memory).
update: oh I forgot I have an DFI Ultra-D so no problems about the voltaje, the proc its a 3500+ winnie
VX requires extreme voltage and runs hot but can take it.
Where can i get those VX!
Need them shipped to denmark!
just bought them in DK ...pc4000VX gold...... just running 2-3-3-8 @ 3v @ 250FSB right now...tried 2-2-2-11 but couldnt take memtest #5 ......i have them on my DFI nf4 and i think there was a way to give 3.5v in bios with just moving 1 jumper instead of them all for 4v option......what kan be expected at cl 2 @ 3,5v ???? and cl 2.5???
Question folks:
What are the steps to make use of the OCZ warranty if my RAM :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up?
Does OCZ offer an OnlineRMA method or what is the usual procedure?
I am from germany btw so maybe its a little bit different for me.
hi all extreme overclockers
my new ram arrived ocz vw 3200 1024
so far i have got it to 240 on 2.9v cas 2.5.2.2.8
my specs are
xp3000
nf7-s rev2.0 with all volt mods done
gf2ti
1024 ocz 3200vwd
Check out our OCZ Technology Information and Support section of the forum. We have several OCZ representatives online on a regular basis. They'll take good care of you. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KingZer0
Turn up the voltage and run CAS2 instead of CAS2.5.Quote:
Originally Posted by computer_geek
ok i have upped the volts to 3.1v @240 as soon as i go 242 bsods on me
any suggestions please ?
this is the bios i am using ABIT-NF7D10-MantaRaysXT-2T
Before even entering in Windows, check your stability with Memtest86 v1.51
yeah go for it. an 80mm Silenx Fan is all I have blowing on them and it keeps them barely warm to touch.for everyday i still say vx. it will not give you heat issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by hpaco
ok i ran memtest it is strange the way it behaves as i started with test 1 it showed errors all over the place i then chose test 5 it had no errors right up till pass 97 then it would throw up 1670 errors so does this mean it just needs some burning in to get rid of these errors?
update : i now cant boot my machine i have a corrupted bios i have 2 bios chips both need flashing so i have to wait till monday to fix them up damn it
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I had the strangest pair of VX that I've ever seen. It can pass '01 @ 270 but can't memtest any higher than 225 in dual channel. When I test the sticks alone they are clean through 265, but together, they error out over 225. Go figure that. But yesterday one of the sticks inexplicably died and are getting rma'd anyhow.
hmmmm, did you try any other stability tests (like 32m pi or p95)
p95 would fail over 225
just wondering which is better, the OCZ VX PC4000 1GB or the Mushkin Redline PC4000 1GB, im gonna be using it with an Abit AN8 Ultra and 3000+ venice
Just an update. I got my second stick working again 2 days ago. I'm running dual channel on 240mhz, 1.5-2-2-5, on just 3.25v here guys. Memtest error-free. This ram rocks a little too much :banana:
Just got this puppies from a friend in USA :)
http://img235.echo.cx/img235/8619/hpim04543md.th.jpg http://img235.echo.cx/img235/2228/hpim04555np.th.jpg http://img235.echo.cx/img235/5677/hpim04566zc.th.jpg http://img235.echo.cx/img235/7086/hpim04594ev.th.jpg http://img235.echo.cx/img235/8257/hpim04606pj.th.jpg
whole weekend of testing ahead :banana:
Yea my mem is real good. At one point I managed like 250 2-2-2-10 memtest Eroor free for hours. But my mem controller can't handle 2-2-2-10 at any speed I have to run 2-3-2-10
Nice TEDY. Keep in mind I had to have 618-2 bios and BankInterleave OFF to make mine happy, but 250mhz 1T @ 3.2Vdimm now, still waiting RMA to return before testing these at 4x512M.
I will try yes -1 or -2 ; Interlave OFF why ?
hm 250 at 3.2 is great result :)
Just tried them a little
250 2-2-2-6 at 3.4v
HOW SHOULD I BURN THEM ???? suggest :=)
find a max stable speed at 3.2V then loop memtest 5 or 8 overnight.then try increase by 1MHz and do same next night.when not burning in(during the day) run them at say 200MHz 3-3.1V so they are taking a break. after a couple of nights up to 3.3V and do same.once you reach the 3.5V mark and highest speed then loop them overnight @3.5V and max speed. next day drop to 3.2V and run them in windows as normal with relaxed speed(less than their 3.2V max). then that night try to drop the volts as little as poss and try to run at the max speed they did at 3.5V.dont use memtest but use something like sandra bandwidth burn-in on a constant loop.repeat this method overnight using different mem stressors that dont halt on errors.hopefully you will reach the previous max clock on slightly lower volts giving a higher max clock at 3.5V.be patient and try this over a few weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
this worked great for me.they creeped up from max @ 3.5V 260 to 268/9MHz after about a week of this method.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
stick to -2 works great.but try various BIOS once you find the max clock with burnin(above). I found hellfire modded to be best for me while others 510-2,618-2 etc.
using 618-2 now....sandra bandwidth burn in you mean memory burn in ? :=) thanks
what settings did you used pumpertot ?
i have 4 sticks to test till monday when i'll keep 2 for me....how can i determine 2 best of 4 ? :toast:
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
the ones that do highest on memtest 5 at 3.2V are the ones to keep.
yes memroy burn-in.
settings, well start with these in order in BIOS.
1.5
2
5
2
8
15
3
3
2
2
3120
auto
en
auto
0
auto
level8
level2
8ns
6ns
16
en
16x
7x
dis
then you can maybe tighten some of:trc,trfc,twr,twtr,trtw,trrd,max async,read preamble once you find the highest stable clock.
e.g. trc=7 might be stable but may not. also I can run trfc14,max async 6ns,read preamble 4ns while others cant etc. so just experiment after finding highest speed poss after burn-in.
also try the 510-2 as i can clock about 10MHz higher than with 618-2 but may be different for you so find highest on 618-2 after burnin then try 510-2.
good luck and happy burning/oc. ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by desolator
both are great have tried both.ocz rma and support is 2nd to none so id pick them for backup.
after some burnin i get 245 at 3.2 , when i got they barerly did 240 at 3.2 :)
yummi :=)
100% stable with 1T 250FSB 2-3-3-6 @ 3.2 ..perhaps i can take it a little more...
why 2-3-3-6 ???????????????????????????????????
Coz UTT-CH based OC´s higher with a little of looser timings.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
um slightly out of place i spose but my ch-5 ram will do 265 2-2-2-5 3.3v (tis not ocz tho)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleman
Holly cow, this ram getting better and better after BURNING IN
Now i'm at 254 2-2-2-6 at 3.2v
:woot:
I posted this on Bacchus's thread. These are VX3200 Gold Edition. No tendency to develop #6 errors at max clocks in either SC or DC, plus running 270x10 with default LDT and chipset voltage. Only needs 3.5 VDIMM too.
No burn in. If you include the 26' to run 32M, the sticks have a total of maybe 2.5 hours run time. I've never run them under 3.3 volts.
http://www.shrani.si/pics/burning30664_resized.jpg
This is with my VX3200. Now running at 200Mh@3.2V prime "large, in place FFTs - stress ram". Is this good for burn in or should I use sandra memory loop.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonman
Hi, to do 240mhz with the VX you will likely need at least 3.3v and a good power supply, although 507 passes and only 52 errors could indicate a heat issue. Do you have a fan blowing on your memory?
Running the Prime95 "Blend Test" is what is typically used for Windows stress testing.
I removed a fan when I was measuring vdimm from a mosfet, so last 12 errors came in loop 586.
Before thist there were 40 errors, so it might be heat issue.
So you suggest to loop sandra mem?
Tnx for quick reply
dpont be so lazy.the previous page or one before that I explained how to burn in.read lazy man. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Moonman
Done, now burning at 246Mhz 2-2-2-8@3.35V :D
Tnx for guide.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonman
no probs matey. ;)
btw tRAS gives best bandwidth at 5 and I find it just as stable as a number >5.
I have a smal question. I have burnd in my vx over the night at 2.2.2.7 200 mhz at 3.2 v. Then I tryed 240 at 3.4 v but i got some errors in mamtest. Sholud I try to burn them in at 240 whit 3.4 v ? Thay got real hot when I run memtest and I got no god cooling for them. The only cooling is the fan that is sitting on my xp120. Do you think i need to get more cooling ?
yes. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacke2k
yuhu
DC 250 2-2-2-8 3.2v :)
slower ram in closest orange slot + better ram in farthest orange slot :)
lol memtest#5 no errors but when i try superpi......doesn't even start, where's the catch ???
TEDY @ tried tRFC @ 16?
yes that's why it's weird
here's pic of A64 TWEAKER
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7257/a647xj.jpg
How did you get it to 254 whit only 3.2 v ? My need 3.4 and still I get errors in memtest. I got 12 errors after 9 h of memtest.
got lucky :)
I want to be lucky some times to =( :P
Tedy my mother is from Slovenija :D
TEDY Tooo lucky :banana:
My 3200VX also need 3.4V for 250Mhz 2-2-2-5
mine do 260 @ 3.2V in memtest all test al day but need 3.4V to be fully stable in windows such as S&M stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonman
i don't get it really........why is this happening ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
well i think its because in memtest the cpu onboard mem controller isnt too involved but once in windows stress testing it is so dimms need extra voltage for the communications between them and controller. at least thats my theory.....
Isn't memtest #8 for windows stability?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonman
doesnt seem to work that way though.
my new SD 3700+ wont go beyond 240FSB so perhaps the bios could be the bugger (310) so which one for my pc4000VX would be the best (wont use 7** ) ? 526 sounded good, but dont know what changes have been made in the 6** and what version to choose.
I would go for 510-2 FIXED (23-06-2005)
just tied with 623-3 ...worked fine at 220FSB it didnt need any extra vcore....but then it was like hitting a brick wall.....230 1.5 in vcore!!! and only stable 240@ 1-6v ....this is very disappointing.
Try these timings/settings: http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/sho...46&postcount=3Quote:
Originally Posted by [G.N.U.]Fragman
Let us know how you do.
Anyvbody knows how this sticks owrk on DFI NF3 Ultra-D ( my board is great ! )
I think that the VX is great and all, but if you guys really want to overclock your RAM, then you should have gone with the Mushkin RedLine. The RedLine can go up to about DDR587 or something whereas the VX cannot. I have two sticks on the Mushkin RAM and I am very pleased with them; I haven't tried the VX yet though.
VX are super cheap... so even though it doesn't go to those massive speeds, $$$ > small increase in performance. For me anyway.... cos 250mhz VVX is great for me.
well it isnt the RAM that are slowing me down..... 2-3-3-8 @ 250 @ 3.2v is possible....but my cpu wont go stable past 245 with less than 1.65 ....and this is close to my limit...its a 24/7 setup so it must be stable.......dont know how high to go because i dont trust those damn temp sensors @ board..... about 38-40 says ITE on load....XP120 and a 1100RPM revoltec on top.....that seems to me to little to be true.....
does cas 1.5 work better than 2 with these? I have to use 3.5v to get 250mhz stable on DFI Ultra-D
Apparently Cas1.5 does work with these and i'm not sure how much you gain though
Anyone got a Venice running these with dividers and can tell me what settings they use in the BIOS? I'm having a little trouble with the dividers as it's giving me Primeing errors. Rounding times etc.
Hey Guys,
I heard the News BH-5/UTT don't run on S478 Boards/CPUs. They should only run on A64. I have some New BH-5 (noname) running on my S478 P4-M, but it doesn't work good. So this could be right. Can you say me some more about this? In some weeks I want to buy some new Ram and decided to take the OCZ VX Series with the new UTT. But do they run on S478 Boards/CPUs? Or must I take another Ram?
Please help me.
UTT/BH5 are WORKING on S478 . GOt some Twinmos Twister BH5 on my P4C800-E dlx.
just a couple real quick questions
just got some OCZ PC4000 VX..... they are refurb'd tho... will i still need to do the "Burn in" process?
can someone point me to how to do the "Burn IN"
are the PC4000 tested @ 250 for sure.. my corsairs will run 250 but at super loose timings. i can give the UTT 3+ volts..
also which BIOS for DFI SLI-DR...........sorry for the repetitive question.
Just burn them in 250 @ 2-2-2-10 @ 3.3.
I'm testing 257 2-2-2-5 @ 3.3. Looks good so far in memtest #5.
I'm at 2-2-2-5 @ 259 MHz using 3.3V. I don't know if this is g ood or not. 0 errors so far after 10 min of Memtest, but Im surprised it didnt ask for 3.4v by now.... So far so good, but I'll leave it on for a few more hours
That ain't bad dmo...of course we're all interested in what it can do with more voltage though. :p:
not bad huh... nice ram u got :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dmo580
hi, first sorry my english is too bad
i bougth this kit today (i'm from chile) and go to burn process with memtest
i put the rams 200Mhz 2-2-2-x 3.2v but in less than 1 min there are aprox 32 errors
please help
the rams are bad??
3000+ winchester
dfi nf4 ultra-d oskar bios
6800gt
thnx
hi guys, i just recently bought a pair of 1gb kit ocz vx4000..
and i know that they suppose to work at 2 2 2 8 at 3.3 v... 250 mhz
so i use that configuration on my DFI sli dr, and it doesnt even boot to windows, seems that the screen freezes and the windows boot logo never appears :mad: .. i have even try to 3.5 v and no luck :confused:
so i tried to 245 mhz and apparently boots but with a lot of effort and unstable i suppose..
so im actualy burning in my ram at 2 2 2 6 3.3 v 250 mhz, and it appeared thousands and thousands of errors in test 5 in memtest 86..
do you think after i burn them for about 24 to 30 hours my problem with get solved?? or should i just RMA them :(
thanx in advance :toast:
what's your Bios version ? :confused: you may have to reflashing your Bios, and check if you got the right timing seting :scope:
With the burning u can increase the rams performance, but thousands of errors in memtests is too much.
I think is a bios problem. Try another bios what works well with UTT ram. Ask for recomendation...i heard that the 510 run well
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Tienes que flashear otra bios. Hay bios's especificas para rams con UTT. Pregunta a ver, pk yo no estoy muy enterado (no tengo nf4 :rolleyes:)
Y el burning se hace con el memtest dandote algunos errores... no miles xD
Did this get resolved? It sounds like your BIOS version/slots or settings are the problem. The VX (and any RAM really) needs special tweaks on the DFI NF4 to work properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by FiNcH64
Let us know.
Nice to see you guys watching out for such cases! :)
Clearly this is not a RAM issue. I remember my first trials with BH-6 on the DFI LP UT nF4... wasting a whole night to get them working 270 MHz 2-2-2-5 @ 3.8V stable through Memtest86+.
Hehe, yup! Been there...........Quote:
Originally Posted by varzmaster
Quote:
Originally Posted by eliminate
what you are saying someone had mushkin redline @ 293MHz 2-2-2-5 and you are saying it as if they all do that impossible figure? i highly doubt it, lay off the drugs man. :p:
heheQuote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
:slapass:
I have the vx pc3200 and I have tested them att 235 whit 3.3 v and hade 4 errors after 25 h. Now I'm changing my motherboard from msi neo 2 to an dfi sli-d. what bios should I use for my vx mem ?
And do you have any tip on how to get my mem higher ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacke2k
623-2 BIOS. and put 3.5V into them. ;)
I prefer 510-2FIX (6-23-2005) On these settings and 3,5v mine will do 250 rocksolid. More volts will get them up to 270. Settings:
Genie BIOS Settings:
FSB Bus Frequency - 250
LDT/FSB Frequency Ration - 4
CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio - 12
PCI eXpress Frequency - 100Mhz
CPU VID StartUp Value - 1.5v
CPU VID Control - 1.425v
CPU VID Special Control - Avove VID * 113%
LDT Voltage Control - 1.30v
Chip Set Voltage Control - 1.50v
DRAM Voltage Control - 3.50v
DRAM Configuration Settings:
DRAM Frequency Set - 200 (DRAM/FSB:1/01)
Command Per Clock (CPC) - Enable
CAS Latency Control (Tcl) - 2.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) - 02 Bus Clocks
Min RAS# active time (Tras) - 05 Bus Clocks
Row precharge time (Trp) - 02 Bus Clocks
Row Cycle time (Trc) - 07 Bus Clocks
Row refresh cyc time (Trfc) - 16 Bus Clocks
Row to Row delay (Trrd) - 02 Bus Clocks
Write recovery time (Twr) - 02 Bus Clocks
Write to Read delay (Twtr) - 01 Bus Clocks
Read to Write delay (Trwt) - 02 Bus Clocks
Refresh Period (Tref) – 1168 Cycles
Write CAS Latency (Twcl) - Auto
DRAM Bank Interleave - Enabled
DQS Skew Control - Auto
DQS Skew Value - 0
DRAM Drive Strength - Level 8
DRAM Data Drive Strength - Auto
Max Async Latency - Auto
Read Preamble Time - Auto
IdleCycle Limit - 16 Cycles
Dynamic Counter - Disable
R/W Queue Bypass - 16 x
Bypass Max - 07 x
32 Byte Granularity - Disable(8 Bursts)
DRAM Data Drive Strength - Level 4 with the 510-2FIX, since when?
options: level 1,2,3.
Yr right, Auto now, me bad. 4 was in old 510-2.
:p: lol crazy Murdoc. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by loc.o
xDDDQuote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
That face say all
Anyone have tried 4x512 VX´s on NF4 Ultra D ?! :confused:
Quote:
Originally Posted by -=DouglasteR=-
yes i have 4x512mb PC3200VX running here on Ultra-D 2-2-2-5 2T 260MHz @ 3.5V. ;)
How do you cool it ? I can think it get realyt hot ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pumbertot
zalman fan bracket with a silent 120mm fan mounted over them.they are barely warm @ 3.5V. i use this over any memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacke2k
ps.the vx is for sale on here. ;)
I'm having a bit of trouble here... A friend of mine has asked me to help him with his computer (which I advised him to buy) and I can't seem to get it working properly...
The system:
X2 4400+
DFI Lanparty UT SLI-DR
OCZ VX PC4000
BFG 7800GTX OC (damn thing stays right on top of the northbridge cooler)
Enermax Noisetaker 600W
Thermalright XP90C + A.C. Ryan fan (I tryed with it at 2500rpm and it's the same as 1300rpm)
2x Maxtor 250GB 16MB NCQ in RAID 0
First, after he set it up, I saw 79800 points in Aquamark 3. After we put the new BIOS that recognized the dual core and we set up the RAID 0 we tryed again. Same drivers, same Windows with just a SP1 and without a video card oc. We got ~75000. Were did almost 4000 points go? We didn't mind so much... Next we tryed to make the RAM work as it should (it was at 2,5-3-3-8 at DDR400 at 2,6V until this point). This was without putting the jumper for the 4V for the memories. I tryed 3,1V and 2-2-2-5 at DDR400 (i didn't tweak the other settings as I really needed a guide for it... there are simply too many!!!). Went into memtest and we had errors.... Ok, set it at 3V and surprize, it works in memtest... Wierd. Super PI was not stable, though (32M). We left it default at 2,6V until I got more info about the various settings.
After I read a guide for the memory options in the DFI BIOS, I went back and this time I put the jumper for 4V (I said maybe it couldn't give enough voltage for the memorys since it was drawing power from 3.3V). (BTW: damn, there are soooo many power cables you have to connect for the DFI!!! Very power hungry!!!).
3,1V, DDR400 2-2-2-5 and default for the rest of the memory options (the things suggested in the guide gave me a nice beep after restart... It didn't work!). Memtest... reporting errors again. 3,2V. same thing. 3,3V same thing. After 3,4V and seeing errors again I was furious! I put 3V and the errors dissapeared. %@$*@$@
Of course, at more than 3V it was stable in PI 32M. At 3V it was not completely stable. Ok. I said to myself that this mainboard is not for default values. I overclocked it. 250x10 for the CPU with HTT at 1000MHz, RAM at 1:1 with the FSB, 3,3V and 2-2-2-5. Errors in memtest. Not stable. 3,4V and 2-2-2-8 (and less voltage for the CPU as it only needed 1,45V <<1,4V recognized in Windows>> to be half an hour dual prime stable... BTW, I know I shouldn't have just overclocked it to 2500MHz like that, but I was furious... lucky it worked! :D ). Errors in memtest, stable in Super PI 32M. Now what?
I have tryed with other settings in BIOS for the RAM and with default ones.. Memtest just keeps showing errors except for 3V DDR400. What to do?
BTW: We didn't burn in the RAM as we didn't thought it was needed. On the OCZ web page it says that it is certified at 250 2-2-2-8 3,3V. Well these don't work! What to do? I am waiting for a response from an official maybe...
Please help! He's gonna kill me for recommending him a DFI and OCZ VX...
Burn them in att 3.3 v and 250 mhz 2.2.2.10 and it should work.
@ Gallardo,
What bios are you running? I recommend the 704-2BT...download it here: http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9917
Then try these settings:
In Genie Bios
250
auto
16 16
9
100
disable
1.450v
1.300V
above VID 110%
1.30v
1.70v
3.3V
Dram Config
200
enable
2.0
02
06
02
13
16
03
03
02
03
2064, 3072, or 3120
auto
enabled
auto
0
Level 8
Level 2
8ns
normal
6ns
256
disable
16
07
disable
VX PC3200, too bad 12x wont do, but quite nice.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...pi1M273loc.jpg
RyderOCZ, i have tryed the settings you suggested at DDR400 @ 3,3V and there were errors in Memtest (after like 5 seconds it starts counting errors). I set the memory at 3V (same settings) and it did about 10 minutes of memtest without any errors (test #5). Why? How? I didn't try the BIOS you suggested. Is it new enough to support Toledo X2 4400+?