Geil Ultra X PC3200 with P/N 0746 is TCCD,with P/N 1243 is BH-5
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Geil Ultra X PC3200 with P/N 0746 is TCCD,with P/N 1243 is BH-5
thanks ianocean.
Little help here needed-is this Mushkin PC3200 BL level 2 v.3 TCCD.I've doubt about version3
I know that VX and TCCD and everynew wonder drug, I mean fast mem product that comes down the pipe seems to be optimized for AMD. Well my Epox 4PDA2+Ver.2 likes this G.Skill TCCD too! This is my best 1:1 running at 3.1V
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WeldZilla/s.jpg
This has been some really sweet mem.
WZ
this modules are weird
DDR1 667
http://angel.ap.teacup.com/maiko/img/1114101523.jpg
OCZ EL PC4000 gold rev2 seems to be tccd 2.
They do 290@2.9V -> 2.5-3-3-8
Not sure how specific you want to be, but the PQI Turbo 4000 has TCCD on brainpower 808 PCB (SPD of 2-2-2-5)..
can someone tell me if corsair 1024XLPT pc3200 able to reach 300+ MHz? with what timming and voltage? thanks
Possible TCCD
Corsair XMS 3200C2 rev 4.3
currently @ 200mhz 2 2 2 5 1T
3200XL here which is tccd 510, I have mine at 288 2.5-3-3-6 right now and I just got them today. seems like they like voltage. It takes 3.1 to get them stable. Not sure how much to feed a tccd stick.
It is the best I can do. I've got a big house fan in front of it (case side wall removed) room temp at 18C. At room temp 21C it gave me 2 errors at pass
45 and 2 more at pass 59. :mad:
http://img15.echo.cx/img15/8792/kosm...rbox0016ub.jpg
FSB Bus Frequency: 300
LTD/FSB Frequency Ratio: X 3.0
LDT Bus Transfer Width: 16/16
CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio: X 9.0
PCI Express Frequency: 100 Mhz
K8 Cool & Quiet Support: Disable
CPU Vid Startup Value: Startup
CPU Vid Control: 1.450v
CPU Special Vid Control: Above Vid * 110%
LTD Voltage Control: 1.20v
Chipset Voltage Control: 1.50v
Dram Voltage Control: 2.90v
Run Memtest86: Disable
MAC Lan: Auto
MAC Media Interface: PinStrap
Machine MAC NV Address: Disable
Internal Phy SATA 1/2: Disable
Internal Phy SATA 3/4: Enable
Si I3114 sATA Raid Control: Disable
VIA 1394 Control: Enable
Marvel Giga Lan Control: Enable
Dram Frequency: 200 (DRAM/FSB:1/01)
Command Per Clock (cpc): Enable
Cas Latency Control (tcl): 2.5
Ras to Cas Delay (trcd): 3
Min Ras Active Time (tras): 7
Row Precharge Time (trp): 3
Row Cycle Time (trc): 7
Row Refrsh Cycle Time (trfc): 14
Row to Row Delay (trrd): 2
Write Recovery Time (twr): 2
Write to Read Delay (twtr): 2
Read to Write Delay (trwt): 2
Refresh Period (tref): 3632
Write Cas Latency (twcl): 1
Dram Bank Interleave: Enable
DQS Skew Control: Increase Skew
DQS Skew Value: 255
Dram Drive Strength Level: Level 7
Dram Data Drive Strength: Level 2
Max Async Latency: 0.8 nano seconds
Read Preamble Time: 0.5 nano seconds
Idle Cycle Limit: 256 Cycles
Dynamic Counter: Disable
R/W Queue Bypass: 16X
Bypass Max: 7X
32 byte Granularity: Disable (8 Bursts)
how high should you take TCCD? I have some sticks coming in and I've only seen up to 3.2ish
I'm asking because I'm used to stuffing 3.6+ to my BH5
how about the normal geil ultra not the ultra-x is that TCCD or BH-5 or anything?
Well, I see ppl using 2.6v-2.9v mostly with TCCD, I don't think it would get it more stable with more Vdimm. What do you guys think?Quote:
Originally Posted by aznblueeboi
My new OCZ EL PC3200 Platinum rev2 is 510 TCC5.
Is the OCZ EL PC4200 Platinum TCCD and will it run 5-2-2-2 at 200fsb?
ha, no wonder why OCE EL REV2 is cheap.....OCZ started to cheat.... :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
Hi, the 4200EL Platinum could be TCC5 or TCCD. Performance is the same. Much of the higer binned chips will not do 2-2-2 reliably. It depends on the memory and your memory controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by fordf250
We are not "cheating" and have even stated her on XS that TCC5 is taking over as the TCCD has become short on availability.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
Are you complaining about the same performance with lower prices? We always have used what works. We have all of our chips tested on a million dollar machine and the "slow" ones don't get used in our premium products. We do not state or gurantee a specific chip on our website or in our advertising.
Why? Isn't tcc5 just as good as tccd?Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
Uh oh here we go again. Hopefully the mods don't let this thread crash and burn like yesterdays. I thought they pulled that thread of its tailspin, (clipping just a few trees) and then bailed out. That thread looked tough on everyone invovled. BTW - Tip of the cap to all OCZ employees who always seem to be at their best when XS members are at their worst ... y'know ... when they're just being members. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by OnDborder
But to answer your loaded question, I'd guess TCC5 is potentially as good as TCCD but your chances of pulling a great pair of OCZ Plat Rev.2 aren't as good now (as it was back in January) because OCZ is binning for higher speed products leaving the pool for for Plat PC3200 with a far less performance range. But that would have been the case with even if TCCD stayed in high production.
:confused: :confused: i hope im not jacking this thread but i need help identifying my KINGSTON HYPERX KHX4000/512R rev.10/02 31. ive done as much research as i can via GOOGLE, Xtremesystems forums, and DFI Street forums. Looked through various threads about memory- setttings/voltages/brands/polls... etc... I read the 1st page of this thread and it seems my memory could be either TCCC or Hynix D34/D5. Is there any other way to confirm this? I really dont want to spend extra $$$ if i can help it. Im putting a new system together which consists of the following- DFI ULTRA-D, LBBLE 0516 VENICE +3000, Sapphire x700pro, Seasonic S12 600w, Philipps Acoustic Edge, & two 512 sticks of Kingston HyperX KHX4000 (purchased in early 2004). I'd appreciate any help you guys can give me. Btw, my memory doesnt have any K2/A/UL suffix so im at loss here trying to identify Exactly what kind of crap i got here. If worst comes to worst im open to suggestions for what ram to buy ($100-200 max). Right now i got some G. Skill Model F1-3200BWU2-1GBGH in mind at Newegg. You ppl that already read the thread i got this specification from should know what im talking about :D .
I am interested in getting Corsair 4400C25 but there are 2 versions being the black and the platinum heatspreader.
Do they both have TCCD chips on Brainpower PCB?
Thank you very much.
wuz up bro... with all the research i did on these forums i remember reading that theres no difference except for the spreader.... too lazy to post the link and i already got too many A64 links to look through.. i highly suggest you use the SEARCH feature, look for links relating to memory (if you havent done so already), and read thoroughly. I'm sure you'll find what im talking about... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FLDQUY157
Hi. I did but couldn't find the exact info I wanted. The most recent one saying there was no difference between the 2 was like in late Dec 2004.Quote:
Originally Posted by l393ndz
I thought there could have been any change because the price diff is like $50 in OZ at some shops and just wanted to confirm this.
Thanks for your input. :thumbsup:
I am being led to believe that probably the newer batch of Corsair XMS4400C25 sticks are TCC5 this is because I was asking in a thread on HoH and RG answered admirably.
But as soon as someone (Ghost Worm) mentioned somewhere around the bottom of the first page that he had found his sticks having TCC5 chips RG has never responded ever since although I have been making inquiry posts quite a couple of times asking for a confirmation message from him. :(
TCCD or TCC5?
Hmmm, doesn't this page from the OCZ website refute your claim?Quote:
Originally Posted by andyOCZ
http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...s_dual_channel
If u meant my post above u, I was talking about Corsair, whose claim has always been that they started manufacturing their XL and 4400C25 series using TCCD chips since DAY 1. Now there has been 1 user who got the guts to remove the heatspreaders and found that the chips were TCC5.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcollett69
I was not talking about OCZ.
That says Winbond made the chips on the ram, not what chip from winbond, so technically Andy is correct in his statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcollett69
We do not advertise what chips are on the ram, I think most manufacturers do not IIRC, some might though :)
gostworm must be on drugs.... Ram Guy finally responded... So if it's TCCD you wan't then CORSAIR is the place to look :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by FLDQUY157
LINK ---> http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/sh...5&postcount=20Quote:
Originally Posted by RAM GUY
I'll take Ram Guy's words and am in the process of ordering a pair of 4400C25.
Today I recieved two single sticks of CMX512-4400C25PT XMS4404v1.1 from zipzoomfly. Heatspreader date code on both sticks is 0517. I opened up one side of one stick. Chip date code is 510 TCCD :fact:
did you get ZZF special for $79 :stick:
Yes I did. :banana: Why do you ask? I see they are now $105 each. Mine are identical right down to the lot codes. Waiting on the rest of my stuff to arrive to give them a try. This will be my first A64 system.
I asked because that sale lasted about 10min...lol I'ts a great buy at $160 for a gig of TCCD. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by leanintoit
whats about them ?
G.Skill F1-3200PHU2-1GBZX
TCCD or not
not
Quote:
Originally Posted by leanintoit
The rest of my stuff came in today and I was putting it all together. I figured it would probably be a bad idea to leave one side of the heatspreader on. Might heat up and fall in not such a good place. Man they are hard to get off.
Anyhow the other side of the one stick that I opened has Chip date code 513 TCCD.
Am I right in thinking that the heat spreaders do somewhere between nothing and nothing good? Leave them on or take them off?
Mushkin
991400 1GB XP4400 Dual Pack 2.5-4-4 (2x512MB)
991399 512MB XP4400 2.5-4-4
Are both TCCD as well.
Duonger
someone should really remove the ocz rev.2 from the tccd list, its misleading now and people will be pretty disappointed when they end up paying for something other then what they wanted. G.skill garantees tccd.
is there anyone else out there that can confirm this? I have this ram but don't want to remove heat spreader. But it seems that I can't do 270 1:1 with my cpu so either this ram isn't TCCD or my 3000+ winnie doesn't have a great memory controllerQuote:
Originally Posted by pha|anx
might be the CPU or motherboard/bios related.
My OCZ PC4800 Platinum (TCC5) does 312 @ 2.5-4-3-8 2.85v so far..
i just got my Patriot XBLK 512mbx2
the max i can get is 275mhz 3-4-4-8 at 2.8V ...
looks ok since it is rated to do 266mhz at 3-4-4-8.... and i get wat i paid for $169
pls let us know ur xms4404v.1.1 still can go how much higher fsbQuote:
Originally Posted by leanintoit
I agree, specially when it is a fact that TCCD is still produced. There is no reason to keep non-TCCD sticks in a TCCD ram list.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4rory
As I understand it, only manfacturers with long term contracts with Samsung, are getting real TCCD.... We need a real current list of them and their memory part numbers...
yes,agree...Quote:
Originally Posted by RebelsHaven
People are saying that corsair is the oen with exclusive rights to tccd now, but gskill still has lots?
might be corsair persuaded samsung to run another batch or two of tccd just for them
I can confirm that Corsair XMS PC3200C2 Rev4.2 2-3-3-6-1T is NOT TCCD but is actually TCC5.
it depends. i know for sure that there are v4.2's with tccd.
Gotta agree with high5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloody_Sorcerer
http://www.houseofhelp.com/v2/showpo...&postcount=277
Some are TCCD, some are TCCX. LOT #s ARE NEEDED to confirm ICs.
If I bought the Corsair XMS PC3200C2 Rev4.2 expecting (as one would) TCCD and found out the IC's were actually TCC5 I would not be very happy :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wired-HoH
ok, v4.2 is mixed then.
Frankly, there's no reason to be upset. When investigating what ICs are in their memory, they're pretty clear that there can be multiple ICs used within a revision, and that the part # / revision # / lot # is needed for them to check what ICs are in each stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
If someone ASSUMES something without doing research, then it's their own fault. Fortunately, Corsair's RMA policy is pretty lenient, and their cust service has been known to go above and beyond when replacing memory when someone buys 2 sticks that aren't of the same revision. However, they cannot guarantee which lot # someone gets (in otherwords, which IC someone gets).
Is this TCCD on Brainpower PCB?
some of the gigaram mach 1000 modules use tccd...like this 3700, the 4000 and the 4200
review here
http://www.insanetek.com/index.php?p...ch1000pc3700_1
Are there no value rams with TCCD? Like some Winbond chips are to be found on Value.
@Aleman:
Quote:
Originally Posted by OCZ CEO
Thx Largon
Looking for new RAM.
Should I go for sticks with TCCD chips or BH5 chips? The BH5 sticks need a lot of power to run at high speeds with good timings, so do I need active cooling for for them because of the voltage being 3.2V+?
Got a new set of Corsair PC3200XL. Easily running at 280mhz @ 2.5-3-3-6 @ 2.85V. Limited by my P-M cpu. Seems to be hitting wall at 2.5g :(
Is There Any 2gb Kit With Samsung Tccd Chips?
This is not possible, as TCCD can only be used in 512mb modules due to it's 32mb chips density. 1gb sticks take 64mb chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by micorreo
I have the Patriot PC3200 with 2-2-2-5 timings marked on the stick. However, it doesn't seem to clock very well. I can't run it at 1T and with Bank interleave on even at stock settings :confused:. How do I check if it's TCCD? I'm thinking of just replacing it and get another TCCD based RAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walrusbonzo
Is the Kingston KHX3200ULK2/1G memory kit still TCCD base or it has changed? I'm on the market for new TCCD base ram. Should I get one with brain PCB to ensure the best clock speed? Thanks.
i brought a corsair cmx512-3200 3-3-3-8 black, rev 1.4, that is samsung tccd also,
but it need high voltage for better performance.
when did you buys these? are they the XBLK series? used to be all XBLK were tccd with the BP pcb. now im starting to wonder if they havent switched to diff chips? i just ordered a pair last night and hope to recieve tccd chips but for some reason im getting a funny feeling about this...... you can take one of the heat spreaders off and look at the chips it will say tccd 4xx on the chip. please post back if you decide to take one of the spreaders off. i hope you report back with tccd....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt_Strider
peace perc,
yes please im interested to know also..
Im Switching from a gig of OCZ gold bh-5 utt to 2 gig setup and im hoping for 280ish or maybe even 300, I remember beck somewhere that some value ram had -5b chips based on crucial ballistix..
If I could only find this post and do some research ive been looking for a few days but im in so many different forums I dont remember where I read it at..
I know someone said there is 1 gig value sticks based on -5b or wutever ballistix chips can someone remember this post?
if so can you point this out, Battlefield is killing me with only a gig..
i had the turbo series which was tccd,if that helps any...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziku
just thought id confirm that patriot 2x512 XBLK kits shipping from newegg are still shipping with the 815bp pcb and the tccd 522 chips. oh and the pcb is red :) just got these in today and was happy to see the BP pcb and the tccd chips.... priming 280x10 2.5-3-3-8 1t right now everything seems fine. i expect these to run as good as all my other tccd sticks...
peace perc,
yesterday i got to feel these badboyz at 257x10 cas2 cmd1 for awhile and wow it was nice. since then its went flakey and im back to 255 cas2 cmd2
2 3 3 11
whats your max cas2 perc?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jethro
well i just run cas 2.5 i can run cas 2 but then if im up around 270-280htt using 2-3-3-X i would have to push like 3v thru the memory and we all know the tccd hates voltage so 2.5cas 1t is just fine for me...
btw: these tccd chips have a 522 date on them i take it these are newer then my other ones marked 440 right? whats the newest anyone has seen out of tccd?
peace perc,
does PQI Turbo Memory Ultra (ddr400 2-2-2-5 @ 2.6v) use the same TCCD and PCB as just plain Turbo?
Not too long ago I was linked to a post by Angry Games over at DFI Street and in that post he referred to his 4x512 sticks of Buffalo Tech TCCD modules.
I have never seen any other references to TCCD from Buffalo Tech. Does anyone know anything about these sticks? I checked the list but did not see them (it is entirely possible that I overlooked them).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820150623
The the only reference I found was on 1gig sticks. Too good to be true. Me and another guy ordered these, but they turned out to be not as advertised. Working on an RMA now. The Micron IC on the Buffalo wasn't close to the binned Crucial stuff. Check the stickied 2gig thread for details.
1 gig stick with TCCD is a pretty rare animal. Only place I can find anything close to it is its close cousin TCCC here.
https://www.dallasmemory.com/estore/...idproduct=1036
Good luck on you search for BUffalo 512mb TCCD sticks.
iirc there used to be some tccd based buffalo ram rated 2-2-2, firestix cl2 was the name i think. however, they were discontinued some time ago.
as for gig sticks with tccd, there isn't any simply b/c there is no 64x8 rev f samsung ic's.
Thanks for the replies, guys. You've pretty much answered my questions. Ironically, it was those 1GB sticks linked to at newegg by gundamit that started this whole line of questions for me, as newegg's product description depicts them as 1GB modules with the Samsung TCCD chipset, then the picture shows Micron ICs. There is a thread over at OCF where one of the guys was asking about that ram.
I just got my rig fired up a few days ago and both the CPU and them mem hit a wall at 280htt(2.5-4-3-7) 1:1. I have the corsair 3200XL v1.2 TCCD(2x512) and a E6(0530) 3000 venice on a 9npa+ ultra. With the newest bios I was stuck at 245 with the mem, once I got the older beta I got to 280. I was a bit worried cause the 3200xl are supposed to be V hungry unlike other TCCD, but these like low volts. I had them running 250 at 2.5v and now they are at 2.7v.
Hey thank you for sharing that. I was just ready to order those from Newegg...Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
Has anyone had a chance to test these?
http://www.insanetek.com/index.php?p...atriotpc4800_1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220140
I just got them in the mail today and I put them in at 2.5-4-4-7 2.9v 300MHz 1:1. I really havent tested them much yet but I will. The TCCD's are 513's. I'll have to check next time I reboot. Here is a quick Sandra test (I ran it 5x so its right)---
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5...40264zp.th.png
Just would like to add Ultra XL PC3200 Samsung TCCD 0510 on BP6U815....So far it's doing 2-3-3-6 on my P4P800 OCCT Stable for 10Hrs :D Seems to be doing much better compared to it's P.O.S Ocz Plat rev2 counterpart that i have it paired up to:clap:
Well i fried a cpu got a new 3000+. It likes much higher HTT's. Paired with this new OCZ pc3700 ive been to windows up to 290HTT but still tweakin. Current max stable is 275 which isnt all that bad for a Via board i reckon. Its TCCD brainpower808 rams. Only paid $150us for a gig of this stuff so not bad.
my ocz plats rev2 get very hot at only 255mhz 2.5-3-3-7 and after some 30min of heavy load they fail in prime. did anyone remove the heatspreaders of those sticks and what to expect when doing that?
my k8ns ultra-939 board has the slots for dual operation configured so: AA BB. will i gain stability with removing the HS?
i got a set of these --> Kingston HyperX PC 3200ULK2 ~ Not in UK (15/10/04)
anyone here knows if theres a way to check if they are TCCD or not without removing the heatspreaders ?(dont want to void the warranty as they are brand new) .....they overclock very poorly thats why im wondering if Kingston might have changed to something else instead of TCCD. sry if im posting in the wrong thread but...if they are not TCCD the list should be updated ;)
I am looking for some high quality ram to go along with a 146, 148, 165, or 170 Opteron, can someone recommend me any
Are tccd or bh5 still recommended and available anywhere
TCCD are still being used for memory, yes. BH-5s (ORIGINAL stuff, not UTT crap) haven't been made in years.
Thanks for the informationQuote:
Originally Posted by Wired-HoH
Can you or anyone recommend which ones have tccd and maybe the next best ram after tccd just in case it is more money I want to spend
Thanks
I hace CORSAIR XMS3200C2PT rev 4.2 likely have SAMSUNG TCCD 516
anyone know about the limits of this ram?
http://www.houseofhelp.com/v3/showthread.php?t=44365Quote:
Originally Posted by BiKEKiNG
More likely TCCX.
I do not play games so I do not care about 3dmark scores, I care about performance because I use 3d programs which requires good I/O bandwidth which I think CAS timings mater
actually trcd and trp matter more than cas latency.
Trcd yes, Trp not quite afaik.
Uhg, more terms to learn :)Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
What the heck are those and what should I look out for when purchasing stuff that effects it
ANyone try http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146397 with good results
I'm pretty sure those are UCCC not TCCD. But do a search on the forums, some people are getting 270 MHz some not so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sose
UCCC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sose
Recent UCCC has been doing very well, at least the G.Skill.
Mushkin xp4400 are also tccd....and very good ones :toast:
And the new GEIL ULTRA-X PC4400 2.5-4-4-7 are TCCD or EMPEROR ???
My PN is 1730
hi guys...Quote:
Originally Posted by DioSpada
geil ultra-x 4400 are 100% tccd...
my geil ultra-x 4400 PN : 17xx SN6xxxxxxx...here a pair of screens:
2225 1t 220Mhz
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9...251t0jv.th.jpg
2.5 437 1t 300Mhz
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/961...371t6eq.th.jpg
these are tccd:clap: ...
emperor?...:rolleyes:
Geil UltraX pc3200