great setup B Gates !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
great setup B Gates !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
Very nice test rig...trip SanDisk Xtreme IIs, I expected nothing less...lol
Interesting....we both run RST 11.2. ;)
are RST 11.2 better than new 12.7 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaxx
Yes 11.2 is faster for RAID 0. 12.7 is faster for a single drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
wich RAID ROM its needed for 11.2 ? same ?Quote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
Thanks mate !
Sergio
it doesnt matter 11 or 12 series orom the both work the same as far as performance goes
see this B Gates that happens to me since ages
2x ADATA SX900 256GB RAID0 128k stripe free space 349GB
RST 12.7
http://i.imgur.com/4ZNeqju.jpg
UNINSTALLED REBOOTED
http://i.imgur.com/RPCp5Xo.jpg
but i still see this on devices
http://i.imgur.com/pnivpao.jpg
not sure if i should install 11.2 RST---will try and post what it gives
Great job Bill, been waiting to see how you did with them. Now I got to resist picking up a z87 mobo, dam. Thanks again bud... :clap:
the first benchmark shows that write caching is not enabled look at the 4k write compared to the second bench. I'm not sure if the iastorF affects anything but it has been my experience that it does not. Uninstall 12.7 and install 11.2 https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...?DwnldID=21408
use the exe so you have the rst control panel
look at the system report in rst control panel.
did you see this article? http://www.rwlabs.com/article.php?id=836Quote:
Originally Posted by DooRules
yes i already repetead this procedure since ages :) lookQuote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
with RST 11.2
http://i.imgur.com/8ErDyrn.jpg
but i still see this on devices
http://i.imgur.com/pnivpao.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qjmiLye.jpg
see those files are version 12.7 im kinda scared to remove them by hand...
I see what you mean. can you look in RST control panel at system report? it looks like this:Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7d8b595c.png
its also varies now increased...
RST 11.2
http://i.imgur.com/p0VIIkj.jpg
this is what u want
http://i.imgur.com/3WZLLIe.jpg
seems all ok right ?
yes seems perfect. I think device manager is wrong.
will i live it that way B what you think ? its more score than i been having and its fast...for only 2 drives on RAIDQuote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
Yes that looks really good.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
Thanks for your fast help B !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
Cheers !!!
Sergio
btw this is my system
http://i.imgur.com/P6KERWx.jpg
looks great! thats one hell of a radiator you got there.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
lol yes has to hold the 3x GTX680 SOC + my IVY at 5GHz HT :)Quote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
According to my knwledge I suspect, that B Gates and not andressergio's Device Manager is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
@ andressergio:
Your Device Manager pictures show a typical issue, which may happen, when the user is downgrading from any Intel RST(e) drivers v11.5 or higher (containing an additional SCSI filter driver iaStorF.sys) to any "classical" Intel RST driver using just the iaStor.sys.
Bug: The iaStorF entries of the Registry will not be deleted by the uninstall procedure.
Bad consequence: The performance will drop, because the absolutely unneeded SCSI filter driver iaStorF.sys is still active.
For more informations you may read the "Switching from RST to RST(e) driversand vice versa" chapter within the start post of >this< thread. There you will find a link to the solution of the problem as well.
My experience is that even though Ive never used RST(e) I still have have iastorf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fernando
http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps371ac048.png
http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps89b7c5c4.png
And I have used your procedure to remove it, which resulted in zero performance gain. I thoroughly tested to see if there was a difference and there was not. The thing is iastorf is there whether or not you have ever used an RST(e) driver. I have not.
Look at the rst control panel:
http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa13c5f11.png
I believe this is correct. I apologize if I'm misunderstanding you.
Thanks Fernando and B Gates for the great help, i read your post Fernando but it send me to a link saying the same, i actually downgraded from 12.7 to 11.2 and YES i have that problem, so what i should do ? uninstall 11.2 then let windows use the native ones and delete files manually from both windows and registry ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fernando
andressergio definitively had used the Intel RST(e) drivers, before he "downgraded" to the RST driver v11.2.0.1006.Quote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
Furthermore there are big differences regarding iaStorF between Windows 7 and Windows 8. Win8 doesn't use the SCSI filter driver iaStorF.sys at all, even if you install any of the RST(e) drivers.
Reason: Win8 and Win8.1 do support the UNMAP command, whereas Win7 doesn't do it. The TRIM in RAID0 feature requires the UNMAP command to let TRIM pass the Intel SATA RAID Controller into the RAIDed SSDs.
Enter the Registry and delete the iaStorF entry as written by Squall Leonhart. Don't try to delete the iaStorF.sys from within the Windows\System32\Drivers directory! You will get a BSOD while trying to reboot after having done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by andressergio
RAID 0 TRIM works with windows 7. I have never used a RST(e) driver just standard. Unless 12.7 beta is a RST(e) driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fernando
All Intel v12.7 RAID drivers (Alpha, Beta and Final) are RST(e) ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
Oh I did not realize that. Is that why 11.2 is faster for raid? But on the other hand 12.7 is much faster than 11.2 with a single drive.
I don't know the exact reason, but I suspect, that the Intel RST driver v11.2.0.1006 has been optimized for Intel RAID0 systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
The measurable performance differences are quite small, if you compare different Intel RST and RST(e) drivers in AHCI mode, but remarkable, if you do the same with a RAID0 system.Quote:
But on the other hand 12.7 is much faster than 11.2 with a single drive.
I have posted such a comparison of different AHCI and RAID driver version within the second post of >this< thread.
How come windows 8 has such lousy performance when compared to win 7. I don't use windows 8 because its such a difference.
I can not confirm your experience with Windows 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
My benchmark results with Win7, Win8 and Win8.1 are quite similar.
there is a pretty big difference in performance look here: http://www.rwlabs.com/article.php?id=832 there is a direct comparison with a sandisk extreme II both win 7 and win 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fernando
RAID 0 is even a bigger difference look here: http://www.rwlabs.com/article.php?ca...2&pagenumber=5
@ B Gates:
To be honest: I only trust my own benchmark comparison results, because only the user himself knows, what he has done (or missed to do).
fair enough:)
Great score B Gates. :up: :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
Did you test the Z87 with two of the Samsungs?
Sure did look here: 2 thru 5 drive arrays There is some stuff I've been able to establish that previous testing did not show and that will be coming out in the next review.
The bottom line with Haswell is that it is great in a workstation environment which fits everyone's profile for the most part because Queue depth levels are very low. If you are using Haswell in an enterprise scenario like a file, web or database where high queue depths are much more common then Haswell is not the way to go. It has up to 10 times worse performance in those server categorizes than Z77 with arrays of 2 drives or more, with the exception of workstation environment where queue depth levels are very low then Haswell is markedly better. You can also see this in CDM 4K:QD4 and 4K:QD32 testing too.
this is a big compliment coming from the Vector King. I would love to see what you could do with a 3 drive Vector array.Quote:
Originally Posted by theoldtimer
I'm benching a pair of CR EDITION SuperSSpeed S301 128GB SLC drives on Haswell as we speak. I will make a thread and post the benches shortly. I will do a windows 8.1 comparison too that will follow shortly.
Thanks for the compliment.Quote:
Originally Posted by B Gates
I'd like to test the Z87 as I haven't tested much of anything for quite a while now. I'd like to test three of the Samsungs this time but the piggy bank won't allow that.
I look forward to your next review.
TRIM over RAID on X58 is now enabled - in fact anything since P35 is do-able. Just a FYI if you're late like me! :)