http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....614&card2=613#Quote:
Originally Posted by Unoid
940 core, 2400 memory.
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http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....614&card2=613#Quote:
Originally Posted by Unoid
940 core, 2400 memory.
dont tell the whole story, depends on game and resolution also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unoid
Basically, a 5850 is 100mhz on core less than a 5870 to perform the same the 5850 needs 100more on the core.
In practice, games, the difference might not be that big due to game engine and resolutions.
i'd say 900/1200, according to reviews on 870/1200 the 5850 almost the same as 5870 stock..
My XFX with MSi bios runs 940/1200 with small voltage bump to 1.13V Hits 72C at 29% fanspeed on auto.
Now if only I could Overclock without getting the 2d Idle causing flickering...
Seems that with latest MSi afterburner theres a hidden option to enable OCing past STOCK BIOS's
Link: http://hwbot.org/article/news/msi_af...ass_ccc_limits
I may flash back my stock XFX and test this out.
This is almost correct based on numbers alone. 945/1200 would be just slightly faster than a 5870. But as stated above, number alone don't paint the whole picture and the 5850 is very close to the 5870 in real gaming scenariors even at lower overclocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandora's Box
That load voltage is incorrect or you're not fully stress testing the card. Try some Crysis Warhead Frost loops. Voltage for 940/1200 should be around the 1.2v.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unoid
Aren't voltage requirements different for every chip?
Slightly, but not that far off. That a BIG difference on a 5800 series card.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
Anyone have a 5970 watercooled on a full-cover block? Would like to see your temperatures & voltages!
:)
Here's screen shot clocks are a lil less but its where I like it. I had time for just the 5 minutes or so but I had it going for 1 hour last night and it was fine. Been gaming and no crashes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blkout
http://unoid.net/pics/5850oc.jpg
where do you get an Afterburner like this !?!?
http://i47.tinypic.com/2iih3j8.jpg
http://kingpincooling.com/forum/show...&postcount=124
I have a question. I flashed my Sapphire 5850 with Asus bios, but Smart doctor 5.51 not work, it gives me an error: "can not find video cards information". Is there any way to fix this? AFAIK when the card is flashed with Asus bios, Smart doctor should work?!
maybe try an older version like 5.48? Does gpu-z read bios sub-vendor ID as ASUS?
just change the skinQuote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
No, jaredpace wants to know how to push voltage to 1.6v like me!
Yes, GPU-Z read bios sub-vendor ID as ASUS and I try with Smart doctor 5.46, 5.48 without success.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
Someone who use Smart doctor with non Asus card???
Now I use MSI Afterburner, but I want to try asus utility, because AFAIK it allow to set 1.45v vGPU.
v1.6 ? cool, and the answer is ?? :welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by pinto
Hard vmod with soldering, but it's strange that no one have posted detailed pictures and description of this hard vmod until now. There is some pictures in ATI 5850/5870 voltmod thread, but they are not very clear. It's a big secret maybe ?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaul
i7-860 4.0ghz 5870cf. I normally don't run vantage so not sure what kind of score to expect from this rig.
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3203/vantage.png
Almost same as what i got:Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Nub
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1962/35044313.th.png
P27050
i7 920@ 4.2GHz
CF HD5870 @ 1000/1350
kpablo & OCnub - Those are some sweet rigs. WOW!~:eek:
Would someone mind PM me the stock Sapphire 5850 bios; my HDD with my backup just died and I'd like to go back to stock now that afterburner works with other vendor's cards as well? :)
You can find it here: http://techpowerup.com/vgabios/57585...24.090916.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Toss3
This is good to know as the MSI/ASUS overclock BIOS doesn't work on my XFX 5850, the prob is that with these BIOS, I get random crashes when I try to resume from S3 sleep mode. Crash happens about one time in ten (90% of the time sleep mode resumes normally). Any BIOS that trashes sleep mode is absolutely worthless, so I was forced to go back to the stock XFX BIOS. So far, no crashes with stock BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unoid
It's great that MSI AB now fixes the lame "can't overclock" restriction on the XFX boards, but there is still an important design defect with all 5850 boards: thermal downclocking. This "feature" doesn't do a damn thing except limit the OC and/or cause excessive irritating fan noise. It doesn't protect the card AT ALL. Maybe someone can find a fix for thermal downclocking, I figure I'm losing about 80 Mhz of GPU clock because of it.
kpablo, the x58-920 does a bit better at the same cpu speed, your cpu scored higher, also the 8x pci-e freq is hurting the score on the p55. One of my cards is a crappy clocker so unable to test with the same gpu clocks as you.
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4...ge4200mhz2.png
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
Added some voltage to the cards and ran it again at 4ghz cpu, 1025mhz gpu and improved the score a bit.
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8233/vantage1.png
Let me know if when using stock XFX bios and enabling that hidden feature in afterburner 1.4 lets you adjust voltage still and if you can still overclock past the stock limits.Quote:
Originally Posted by roller11
hi.,i have sapphire 5850 card.,can someone tell me how to flash the unlocked bios.,n which bios is the best.,asus or msi..tq
Shouldn't need to flash an unlocked BIOS anymore if you use Afterburner 1.4. It has a hidden feature to unlock the stock BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by ezaleina
oh ok..tq bro blkout..:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blkout
I can't confirm this myself because I had already flashed my 5850's BIOS before Afterburner 1.4 came out. I guess I could flash them back to stock to check it, but I have no interest in doing so right now as everything is working just fine. I don't plan to flash them back to stock until I get ready to sell the cards. Just repeating what I've heard, there's a guide somewhere that tells how to unlock it in Afterburner.Quote:
Originally Posted by ezaleina
guys, I get a HD5850 XFX XXX
no problems running at this clocks, need 1.21v ("unlocked" MSI afterburner)
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9937/3dmarko.jpg
I think 1GHz+ is possible with 1.3v...
..but, powerplay doesn't work, so the only way to use higher clocks than CCC limit and keep the Powerplay working is flashing antother BIOS?
CPU q9550 @ 4.4 GH + 5870 @ 1000/1300
http://i47.tinypic.com/sg5mdy.jpg
Diamond 5850 1050/1200 @1.27 volts
Q9550 4.1 @1.28 volts
GPU score 18124:cool:
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4205/39423167.png
Sapphire 5850 @1000/1300, 1.25v
http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/q...25vVantage.png
Can anyone say anything about these BIOSes?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=240336
Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Default voltage increase perhaps; http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=310411
Yet to be confirmed though.
I was more worried if the unlocked BIOS version was new as well, and whether it was unlocked properly.
Someone is experiencing issues in the thread you linked.
This vcards are getting better and better with the times!
Got Catalyts 9.11 Beta 5 Drivers and look now the differences:
3Dmark Vantage:
Catalyst 9.11 Official:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8840/95683275.th.png
P27050
GPU 27432 points
-----------------
Catalyst 9.11 beta 5:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9...agebeta.th.png
P27974
GPU 28680
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1665002
----------------
Crysis Warhead:
Catalyst 9.11 Official (with Dirt 2 hotfix)
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8...head911.th.png
Min: 31.59
Max: 68.14
Avg: 53.21
Catalyst 9.11 beta 5:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7...eadbeta.th.png
Min: 40.46
Max: 88.90
Avg: 70.50
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PC used:
i7 920 @4.2
RAMs @2000MHz
RIIE
kpablo, very nice results. :up:
Will give the beta's a try for sure.
The only bad thing i discovered about the 9.11 beta 5 is not reading well the sensor of the 2nd vcard in 2d mode... it does not recognize, until you run a 3d app, then when you go back to 2D mode, then does not work again... :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by OC Nub
Can't wait to test the improvements with official 9.12 drivers... :D
Is that real ?? 9.11 beta 5 so much faster than than the 9.11 full ??
for crossfire configurations, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by [DANGERDAN]
Joining the club grabbed 3x HD5870 Sapphires. Starting with 2x HD5870 tests first though. Starting to push the clocks on 2x HD5870 in Vantage for Win 7 Ultimate 64bit.
100% fan speed voltages and clocks set in MSI Afterburner v1.41:
- 975/1263 at 1.187v
- 985/1263 at 1.212v
@985/1263 noticed that part way into Vantage bench, GPU2's fan speed drops out of 100% speed to 50% fan speed = end result GPU2 is 9C hotter at 63C peak versus GPU1 at 54C peak temps. GPU score seems a bit low ????
3Dmark Vantage = 27,045
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1665802
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T...1263_27045.png
System:
- Intel Xeon W3570 3847A696
- EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655
- Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
- Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
- 2x Sapphire HD5870 CF flashed Asus bios 9.11 drivers
- 750GB Samsung SATA
- Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
- Corsair HX1000 PSU
- Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM
Took some photos of 2x HD5870 CF setup on Asus P6T6 WS Revolution (supports 3x PCI-E x16 slots for PCI-E #1, #3 and #5 slots). I grabbed my DFI UT X58-T3EH8's longer flexible Crossfire connector bridges as DFI UT X58-T3EH8 has double slot spacing for CF. Wasn't sure if I need both bridges for 2x HD5870 CF as there wasn't any difference in scores really for 1x vs 2x bridges I don't think. Last photo compares the longer crossfire connector bridge with the standard one.
http://img3.i4memory.info/reviewimag...5870_CF_01.jpg http://img3.i4memory.info/reviewimag...5870_CF_03.jpg
http://img3.i4memory.info/reviewimag...5870_CF_05.jpg http://img3.i4memory.info/reviewimag...5870_CF_06.jpg
http://img3.i4memory.info/reviewimag...5870_CF_07.jpg http://img3.i4memory.info/reviewimag...5870_CF_08.jpg
Now to see how 3x HD5870 Tri-Crossfire does - my first time using triple GPUs on any kind (ATI or Nvidia). Tight fit there with the HD5870s slotted into PCI-E x16 #1 + #3 + #5 slots.
http://img.i4memory.info/reviewimage...0_tricf_01.jpg http://img.i4memory.info/reviewimage...0_tricf_02.jpg
http://img.i4memory.info/reviewimage...0_tricf_03.jpg http://img.i4memory.info/reviewimage...0_tricf_04.jpg
Okay first Tri-CrossfireX runs with 3x HD5870 flashed to Asus bioses at stock 850/1200 speeds. I did try Vantage run with them at stock 850/1200 and overclocked at 985/1263 but got much lower GT 1 - Jane Nash score in the low 61-62fps vs my 2x HD5870 run with GT 1 - Jane Nash in the 71-77fps ???. 3dmark05 had virtually same score as 2x HD5870 ????
System:
- Intel Xeon W3570 3847A696
- EK Supreme LT 1366 / FESER 480 / MCP655
- Asus P6T6 WS Revolution
- Gskill Trident F3-16000CL9T-6GBTD
- 3x Sapphire HD5870 CF flashed Asus bios 9.11 drivers
- 750GB Samsung SATA
- Pioneer DVR-217 DVD-RW
- Corsair HX1000 PSU
- Dual Boot - WinXP Pro SP3 (nLite fully updated) with Vista Theme & Win7 Ultimate 64bit RTM
3x GPU = Win 7 Ultimate 64bit
2x GPU = WinXP Pro SP3 for all except Vantage benchmark
Low GT1 3D Vantage @850/1200 with 3x GPU = 24,397 vs 2x GPU = 25,115
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T...1200_24397.png
Very easy breach of 32K @850/1200 for 3dmark06
3x GPU = 32,296 vs 2x GPU = 31,676
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T...1200_32296.png
3Dmark05 - 3x GPU 40,214 vs 2x GPU 40,215 ?? Seems to be low GT1.
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T...1200_40214.png
3Dmark2003 - nice boost 3x GPU = 158,942 VS 2x GPU = 130,936
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P6T...200_158942.png
Nice stuff eva. You know, first time with TriSLI or Tri CFX is like another first time - the first thing you remember is "damn, this is too tight" :P
http://i48.tinypic.com/24azvbr.jpg
2x5870 Vapor-X 1000/1300 1.187v
Nice tests Eva. Here catalyst 9.10 is better for 3 cards & Vantage.
MAX on air 5870 @ 1025/1350
http://i47.tinypic.com/xf1992.jpg
Did somebody already got his hands on the new VRM coolers from Thermalright the VRM-R3 and VRM-R4? I realy want to know how far the temps will drop. :) http://images.hardware.info/news/The..._VRM-R3_R4.jpg
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=240336
A new BIOS version (035264) for 5870 with some bug fixes is up here.
But sadly, the unlocked version is corrupted (incorrectly unlocked I assume).
Is anyone willing to provide a correctly unlocked one please (this 035264 version, or a later one)? I'd greatly appreciate it.
Or teach me how to unlock it properly, and I will (not via RBE, obviously).
Thanks! :up:
You can unlock it via MSI Afterburner, modifying a hidden feature.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Nice bios, now I can run 900Mhz on my 5850 w/out a glitch and that's using CCC w/ stock voltage (1.17V)
The BIOS is nice, it also fixes some eyefinity glitches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r
Just wish the unlocked version worked... I flashed the normal one, getting some reports about the unlocked version being broken, and RaBit says that CRC failes for that one, so I am waiting for someone to unlock it properly so I can OC with it as well.
Apparently unlocking is easy, just need some special ATI tool.
Check this thread.
by Garrett_Wu.Quote:
We used ATI official tool that provide to AIB to modifiy the BIOS setting and BIOS is digitally signed by ATI, sorry the tool can't be released publicly. And yes, we will apply it to MSI 5850 (also 2nd shippment of 5870, and future 5700 series).
I don't wanna register there just to ask them to unlock this BIOS, I'm sure there are more people here who have it and are willing to unlock the BIOS for us.
You flashed your 5850 with a 5870-bios? And it works?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barr3l Rid3r
Yes it does flawlessly, better then original 5850, now it works perfect @ 900Mhz w/stock 5870 vgpu.Quote:
Originally Posted by HMB
MAX on air 5870 @ 1075/1290
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6998/capture51.jpg
how much voltage required to get to those clocks???wow thats insane..i saw a card pushed 1100 on the core but its WC..nice :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolas61
voltage is 1.262VQuote:
Originally Posted by -=[kz-0]=-
:wave:
all on air
i think that result is best momentarily on air :D
MAX on air 5970 @ 1000/1290
voltage is 1.262V
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8213/capture5ay.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolas61
Are you using the default bios for that? Or have you flashed to something else?
(I am a first time Extremesystems user!!!!)
Quote:
Originally Posted by merc.man87
default bios...
:welcome: to XS then! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by merc.man87
Okay, so right now i am using afterburner 1.41 and i can clock it to about 1050 and 1200, and slide the voltage all the way across to max, now is it actually using that much voltage, or is it still stuck at the default voltage?
It wouldn't be stable at the default voltage, so pretty sure it uses that much.
If i can get that high, then what would be the benefit of flashing to another bios, say msi or asus? Is there any? i have the xfx black edition .
benefit would be having powerplay active and clocks & voltage lowering during 2d & idle.
The black edition has higher clocks than stock correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by merc.man87
Any chance the black edition BIOS is available online?
i'm sucking my thumb atm..this...errr i mean your clocks are as insane as what i think hell looks like..i'm capping off to 1000/1300 atm with 1.225v more than that even with a tad of voltage i can't push through..
I haven't seen it, when i get a chance i suppose i could upload it it. Yea the stock clock is higher, what sucks is i see people with 1300 and 1350mhz on the memory, i wish i could get that high.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcl
Do we have a working way to commit clocks, voltages, and fan control settings to bios? RBE doesn't seem to support 5850 yet.
900/1200 @ 1.15v seems about the max for my card. core can go higher, but needs way more voltage, so i'll just leave it at 900 for now :/
Cool. I'm interested because using standard o/c programs causes the default 2D clock to drop considerably, which in turn causes my second monitor to flicker badly. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by merc.man87
Do you know how we can unlock voltage above 1.35v?Quote:
Originally Posted by kpablo
How do you think the score tale 5870CF and wound on the 4.5Ghz CPU
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8...ark06cf.th.jpg
:wiggle:
XFX HD5850
CPU i7 920 @ 4.2
GPU @ 950/1350 @ 1.2V
Mem @ 7-7-7-19-1T
Catalyst 9.11
To overclock the card without having to flash its Bios, I use two apps:
1) AMD GPU Tool for clocks & voltage.
2) MSI Afterburner for 100% fan, and fine tuning the Voltage.
Mark06
ORB - Compare
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4392/mark06.png
VANTAGE
ORB - Compare
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3203/vantage.png
HD5970 + LN2 = 3DMark Vantage Single-card WR
http://lab501.ro/forum/showthread.php?t=909
Some great photos there! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by istvan.t
And an amazing result ofc! :up:
Thx guys. For the english speaking population I also told the story here at XS :)
anyone can give me the xfx 5870 xxx bios?
Should be this one.
The problem is, I lose all powerplay features then...Quote:
Originally Posted by kpablo
And it's my 24/7 setup.
Bump for a properly unlocked version of this! Anyone? :D
any special xfx BIOS ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe
xxx bios have 875 core and 1300 memory...... i suppose a little overvolt on the ram by default....
I need to have the asus eah 5970 bios, someone could possibly share it's bios please?
quotoQuote:
Originally Posted by Andrea deluxe
First post on first page.Quote:
Originally Posted by okorop
Thank's but I need the .bin estension to flash the bios with atiflash in dos mode....Quote:
Originally Posted by gerardfraser
Catalyst 9.12 looks good :D
9.10:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-120035266.jpg
9.12:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...-120036344.jpg
That really looks good! I took Catalyst 9.12 down, once I get refilled with LN2 I'll hit the single-card Vantage once more time :D
9.12 indeed look good I got over 2k more in Vantage with these while using the same clock speeds:
9.11 hot fix drivers, CPU @ 4.3Ghz, HD5870's @ 1100/5400, 8800GS at 750/1880/2000
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1679872
9.12 drivers, CPU @ 4.3Ghz, HD5870's @ 1100/5400, 8800GS @ 750/1880/2000
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1691926
HD5870's are using 1.312v for 1100Mhz core using MSI AB 1.5 beta 2 :up:
XFX HD5850
CPU @ 4.2
GPU @ 1000/1350 @ 1.22V
Catalyst 9.12
techPowerUp GPU-Z Validation u65q2
MARK06
ORB - Compare
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3189/mark06.jpg
VANTAGE (5th place in the world) :
ORB - Compare
http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=931712
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2185/vantagee.jpg
Here is my 1000 core / 1200 memory result :D! Thanks for the help ;)
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8...sfurmark10.jpg
5970 max on air 990/1270
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1962/capture922.jpg
Almost 30k!!
9.12:
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2...tage912.th.png
P29210
GPU 30356
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1693630
I got this result with Beta 5:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9...agebeta.th.png
P27974
GPU 28680
From 9.11 to 9.12 in GPU score i got like 3k difference.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8840/95683275.th.png
9.12 5870x2 @ 1300/1000
vantage 29838
Some single card love :up:
22k in Vantage......no PhysX ;)
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1694332