MA790X / MA790XT-UD4P 790X bugs fixes etc etc.....

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Originally Posted by Matas

I want to replace my old not efficient Phenom X4 9550 with Athlon II X3 450 but don't know if it will be properly recognized on my 790X-UD4P, cause even the latest F10c BIOS only supports Athlon II X3 445 model. Should I give a try? Also planning to unlock the new Athlon II X3.

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There is a code on the cpu that will tell you if its unlockable or not. The middle C in the code "CACAY" means I have a Deneb and it unlocks... no probs.. xxDxx means Propus and has no L3 cache...

http://img.techpowerup.org/101229/Athlon II 630 3.jpg

The cpu support list on your mobo's site will tell you which bios version you need. gl !

this board gets better and better. Also for a unlocked 555 this is great.


http://img.techpowerup.org/110105/test836.jpg

Yes, that CPU is a gem. Now show us some 1800 6-8-6 ;) Because my retail 965BE and 565BE sample both do 1800-1845 stable on Elpida Hyper...probably closer to 1900 with PSC like you've got.

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Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

Yes, that CPU is a gem. Now show us some 1800 6-8-6 ;) Because my retail 965BE and 565BE sample both do 1800-1845 stable on Elpida Hyper...probably closer to 1900 with PSC like you've got.

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We both know this board was designed for 1666 and tight timing ram. We also know ram speed makes very little performance difference unless your benching and even then not much. Plus this is a 84.00 cpu and 80.00 motherboard so there we have it. Not really a fair comparison. This is not a high performance rig ,just a very good value gaming system.

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Originally Posted by trt740

We both know this board was designed for 1666 and tight timing ram. We also know ram speed makes very little performance difference unless your benching and even then not much. Plus this is a 84.00 cpu and 80.00 motherboard so there we have it. Not really a fair comparison.

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Not designed for 1666 and tight timing ram huh? Timings dont have any effect on the board as far as clocks, only the IMC. 1666 CAS 9 and CAS 5 are the same on the board. (1600+ cas 5 is good stuff :yepp: )
I told you my 565 sample does 1800+ didnt I? The 555 isn't much different.

My 965 did 1790 with Hypers on my 890GX-UD3H, that clocks ram about the same as the UD4P so I'd like to see at least 1700.

While PSC can do 2000-2100 stable on 890FX Hyper won't even get past 1900...on 790 series that goes 1800-1880 PSC to 1700-1800 with Hypers...so it should be easier for you to clock PSC than I'm able to clock Hyper. When that board debuted, it was $130 and not $80 btw, I owned the DDR2 variant till I sold it to gomeler (he got 6 Ghz on a Sempron 140 with it) and loved it to death.

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Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

Not designed for 1666 and tight timing ram huh? Timings dont have any effect on the board as far as clocks, only the IMC. 1666 CAS 9 and CAS 5 are the same on the board. (1600+ cas 5 is good stuff :yepp: )
I told you my 565 sample does 1800+ didnt I? The 555 isn't much different.

My 965 did 1790 with Hypers on my 890GX-UD3H, that clocks ram about the same as the UD4P so I'd like to see at least 1700.

While PSC can do 2000-2100 stable on 890FX Hyper won't even get past 1900...on 790 series that goes 1800-1880 PSC to 1700-1800 with Hypers...so it should be easier for you to clock PSC than I'm able to clock Hyper. When that board debuted, it was $130 and not $80 btw, I owned the DDR2 variant till I sold it to gomeler (he got 6 Ghz on a Sempron 140 with it) and loved it to death.

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okay? not up for this and no need to it's all about the north bridge, not ram I'm not interested in a debate. The DDR2 variant is not the same and you don't even own this board. Thx have a good night.

nice clock trt can you get a high HT link speed with it too?

gem of a chip wonder what k10stat could get if you clocked core by core

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Originally Posted by trt740

okay? not up for this and no need to it's all about the north bridge, not ram I'm not interested in a debate. The DDR2 variant is not the same and you don't even own this board. Thx have a good night.

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Funny stuff.

You act like you know everything and I know nothing and you can't accept that the board might have a few problems. I already know the DDR2 variant isn't the same, but maybe I oughta go buy the board to see what it's really like. All about the northbridge and not the ram, huh? Everyone knows PSC does higher Mhz than Hyper, which is the prime reason you never see Hyper doing 2400+ (or 2100+ for that matter) in AMD ram speed records. It's all PSC, it clocks higher and it's a little more forgiving on the IMC. What else is all the northbridge? I thought you said it was all the board.

Btw, "I'm not up for this, you don't own this board, the DDR2 variant is not the same and Thx have a good night." you seem like you don't like me all that much, do you?

@ cdawall

His CPU is surely a gem, 4.2 @ 1.45v on air is amazing...I wonder what it would do on water or subzero.

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Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

Funny stuff.

You act like you know everything and I know nothing and you can't accept that the board might have a few problems. I already know the DDR2 variant isn't the same, but maybe I oughta go buy the board to see what it's really like. All about the northbridge and not the ram, huh? Everyone knows PSC does higher Mhz than Hyper, which is the prime reason you never see Hyper doing 2400+ (or 2100+ for that matter) in AMD ram speed records. It's all PSC, it clocks higher and it's a little more forgiving on the IMC. What else is all the northbridge? I thought you said it was all the board.

Btw, "I'm not up for this, you don't own this board, the DDR2 variant is not the same and Thx have a good night." you seem like you don't like me all that much, do you?

@ cdawall

His CPU is surely a gem, 4.2 @ 1.45v on air is amazing...I wonder what it would do on water or subzero.

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it is good as a quad but i still want to see some dual core push the hell outta it clocks :p: 4.2 on air is cool but it has been doable since RB-C1 prerelease chips albeit at way higher volts

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Originally Posted by Matas

I want to replace my old not efficient Phenom X4 9550 with Athlon II X3 450 but don't know if it will be properly recognized on my 790X-UD4P, cause even the latest F10c BIOS only supports Athlon II X3 445 model. Should I give a try? Also planning to unlock the new Athlon II X3.

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Dude here's the cpu support list for that board.
http://www.gigabyte.us/support-downl....aspx?pid=3038

I have a friend that has that same board as well and he's runing at 955be oc'd to 3.8ghz, If planning to keep the board why jump from a X3 to a X4 black edition he's about to jump from a Phenom II X4 955 to a Phenom II X6 1090T. It only makes sense to jump forward than stay even or barkward. But. I don't know the rest of your setup either memory,cooling etc and the F10C bios started with the Phenom II X4 970 and above to the Phenom II X6 1090T remember that's a AM2+ motherboard. I would get a Black Edition C3 chip if it was me:yepp:

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Originally Posted by bigwill68

Dude here's the cpu support list for that board.
http://www.gigabyte.us/support-downl....aspx?pid=3038

I have a friend that has that same board as well and he's runing at 955be oc'd to 3.8ghz, If planning to keep the board why jump from a X3 to a X4 black edition he's about to jump from a Phenom II X4 955 to a Phenom II X6 1090T. It only makes sense to jump forward than stay even or barkward. But. I don't know the rest of your setup either memory,cooling etc and the F10C bios started with the Phenom II X4 970 and above to the Phenom II X6 1090T remember that's a AM2+ motherboard. I would get a Black Edition C3 chip if it was me:yepp:

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I saw that CPU support list and Athlon II X3 450 isn't included in it, though technically this board is able to support it. There is no point getting PH II BE as I can easilly unlock that Athlon II X3 and OC it to ~4GHz. Everybody knows that L3 cache isn't important.

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Originally Posted by Matas

I saw that CPU support list and Athlon II X3 450 isn't included in it, though technically this board is able to support it. There is no point getting PH II BE as I can easilly unlock that Athlon II X3 and OC it to ~4GHz. Everybody knows that L3 cache isn't important.

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Who is everybody lolz.. >?? With FFXIV benchmark I score 33-3500 pts with no lv3 cache and stock gpu. I'm a little vague b/c its been a while since..

FFXIV benchmark with Lv3 cache and stock 700/1150 gpu..

http://img.techpowerup.org/110107/3861FFXIV.jpg

800/1250 gpu :D

http://img.techpowerup.org/110107/4101 800 1250 gpu.jpg

10/15% performance gain is very nice indeed and shows it does matter,I bet the min was better making the bench run smoother.

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Originally Posted by Hell Hound

10/15% performance gain is very nice indeed and shows it does matter,I bet the min was better making the bench run smoother.

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20%+ with games/apps that are more cpu intensive. :)

+15% perf. for almost 100% price increase is not justified for me:D though there is also possibility to unlock and L3 cache.

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Originally Posted by Matas

I saw that CPU support list and Athlon II X3 450 isn't included in it, though technically this board is able to support it. There is no point getting PH II BE as I can easilly unlock that Athlon II X3 and OC it to ~4GHz. Everybody knows that L3 cache isn't important.

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Good Luck with that remember the Hybrid setting will disable the core temps in Everest...

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Originally Posted by Matas

+15% perf. for almost 100% price increase is not justified for me:D though there is also possibility to unlock and L3 cache.

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I think you mis-understand me. I said get an Athlon II x3/4 and unlock it.

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Originally Posted by bigwill68

Good Luck with that remember the Hybrid setting will disable the core temps in Everest...

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You still have the CPU temp to go by lol.. the bios and Speedfan read it.. no probs.

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Originally Posted by AmdAtiTom420

You still have the CPU temp to go by lol.. the bios and Speedfan read it.. no probs.

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That is true Tom who needs the core temps away:rofl:

The only downside is its not as 'real time'. And I'm surprised no one has figured a way around it by now haha..

I added another 4 gb of 1600 DDR3 Redline , making 8 gb total, and it works great. My over clocking is just as stable with 8gb.

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Originally Posted by trt740

I added another 4 gb of 1600 DDR3 Redline , making 8 gb total, and it works great. My over clocking is just as stable with 8gb.

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Congrats :) :welcome: to 8 Gigland :clap

I've just gone from 4 to 8 and now 12gigs, this past week. Some will say 8 is too much and many will say 12. I say BAA to you all b/c you can never have too much ram. :up:

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Originally Posted by AmdAtiTom420

Congrats :) :welcome: to 8 Gigland :clap

I've just gone from 4 to 8 and now 12gigs, this past week. Some will say 8 is too much and many will say 12. I say BAA to you all b/c you can never have too much ram. :up:

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I am not seeing any difference in performance at all but it was on sale and this ram seems designed for this board. It has tight timing and makes the N/B and cpu much more stable. For 84.00 you cannot go wrong. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226120. If your looking for good ram, with zero trouble this is it.

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Originally Posted by trt740

I am not seeing any difference in performance at all but it was on sale and this ram seems designed for this board. It has tight timing and makes the N/B and cpu much more stable. For 84.00 you cannot go wrong. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226120. If your looking for good ram, with zero trouble this is it.

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I agree, that's some awesome ram for an awesome price. It's a PSC kit and you are right, it's easier on the CPUNB. Good to see you got 1666 6-8-6 also over 8GB, looks like you've got a good IMC on that chip as well :up:

*sigh*, too bad he will never read my first positive comment about him.

http://img20.imageshack.us/f/790x.jpg/


With ACC enable. Rams running higher than 950mhz = crash within 5 minute stress testing. :down:

With ACC disable it can hit 1100 no problem. :confused:

Is my cpu MIC giving out?

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Originally Posted by 5ILVgearX

http://img20.imageshack.us/f/790x.jpg/


With ACC enable. Rams running higher than 950mhz = crash within 5 minute stress testing. :down:

With ACC disable it can hit 1100 no problem. :confused:

Is my cpu MIC giving out?

:shrug:

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It could be from the extra heat...but it shouldn't be that bad. :(

I dont know what happen with photo bucket but I lost all my images. :mad: :mad:

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Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

It could be from the extra heat...but it shouldn't be that bad. :(

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If it only was that simple. :(

Only got this screen shot left.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

Even with insane NB,SB, NBVID + core volts I cannot stablize with ram running @ x5.33. :down: But it was possible 3 months ago. :yepp: Test was conducted with the help of mother nature. Room temp 5C. :rofl:


:shrug:

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Originally Posted by trt740

I am not seeing any difference in performance at all but it was on sale and this ram seems designed for this board. It has tight timing and makes the N/B and cpu much more stable. For 84.00 you cannot go wrong. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226120. If your looking for good ram, with zero trouble this is it.

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I'm surprised you see noo diff. haha.. Did you reset your bios and fresh install windows after adding the ram ??
:eek: http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=030999 :shocked:
Some areas of ram performance will show little/no gain b/c my cpu is bottlenecking the ram. .. Photoviewer shows the test run on 4gb.

http://img.techpowerup.org/110108/4 then 12 gigs.jpg

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Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

I agree, that's some awesome ram for an awesome price. It's a PSC kit and you are right, it's easier on the CPUNB. Good to see you got 1666 6-8-6 also over 8GB, looks like you've got a good IMC on that chip as well :up:

*sigh*, too bad he will never read my first positive comment about him.

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Who ? lolz..:D

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Originally Posted by AmdAtiTom420

I'm surprised you see noo diff. haha.. Did you reset your bios and fresh install windows after adding the ram ??
:eek: http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=030999 :shocked:
Some areas of ram performance will show little/no gain b/c my cpu is bottlenecking the ram. .. Photoviewer shows the test run on 4gb.

http://img.techpowerup.org/110108/4 then 12 gigs.jpg



Who ? lolz..:D

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I think my rig is just very fast already windows loads a bunch faster. Also this board likes this tight timing on this ram.

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Originally Posted by AmdAtiTom420

I'm surprised you see noo diff. haha.. Did you reset your bios and fresh install windows after adding the ram ??
:eek: http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=030999 :shocked:
Some areas of ram performance will show little/no gain b/c my cpu is bottlenecking the ram. .. Photoviewer shows the test run on 4gb.

http://img.techpowerup.org/110108/4 then 12 gigs.jpg



Who ? lolz..:D

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trt, he sent me some nasty PM's then put me on his ignore list. :up:

Again has any one done any testing on the newest BIOS (10c) for the GA-MA790X-UD4P MB?

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Originally Posted by trt740

I think my rig is just very fast already windows loads a bunch faster. Also this board like this tight timing on this ram.

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Plz make up your mind lol..:shrug: you said there was no diff in your previous post.

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Originally Posted by BeepBeep2

trt, he sent me some nasty PM's then put me on his ignore list. :up:

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:D Sucks to be you ! lmao Musta missed it .. lol..

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Originally Posted by AmdAtiTom420

Plz make up your mind lol..:shrug: you said there was no diff in your previous post.



:D Sucks to be you ! lmao Musta missed it .. lol..

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Well, I mean fps in games etc.... load times are faster but only slightly. Other than that right now no big performance increases.

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Originally Posted by trt740

Well, I mean fps in games etc.... load times are faster but only slightly. Other than that right now no big performance increases.

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Are you running everything on C: drive ? eg.. windows, pagefile and game ?

If yes, try installing the game on the other drive or add a 2nd partition your 1TB. My HDD is partitioned with C: - 40gb and D: - the remainder.

Anyone else having trouble with the 500 series cards and this motherboard? I cannot get some of the 460 and 560 cards drivers to work.

Okay after several driver sweeps I just cannot get it to work so back the 560 went and a 6950 works great.