athlon64 overclock record. all owners please post

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Originally posted by Pedro Rocha
A64 3200+ new CAAOC stepping- 2.500Mhz with the Stock Cooler, no vmods and just 1.66v on core ..

Previous 3200+ CAAMC give me 2.400 on Stock cooler and 2.800 on the Prometeia..

So this new chip should give me around 2.900Mhz when I mount it on the Prometeia :D

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ola pedro :)

como andas amigo?

Estou com um 3400 da mesma serie , rodando estavel a 2550mhz , estou com dois 3200 , um roda estavel 2500 o outro não passa de 2350mhz , ruinzinho esse.


meu dual chiller esta quase pronto , um ano trabalhando nele, desde nossa ultima conversa por mp no forum pcs lembra?

A potencia é estupida , o menor para gpu 3\4hp tecumseg unit lbp r404a -35@400w esta trabalhando a 180w@-55 para a gpu.

O grande 1 1\4 hp tecumseg unit lbp r404a -35@890w esta trabalhando a 380w@-55 para a cpu , usando uma bomba velocite t3 titanium e um block especial , 3c de delta a 226w no simulador

estou terminando a air lite box para enfiar a xt e a giga dentro da caixinha e rodar :)

e juntando dinheiro para pagar a conta da luz por pelo menos um mes , 1600w as duas unidade :(

depois de uma visitada na phase-change e olhe os chiller , vc vai gostar , embora não esteja com todas as fotos da de ter ideia da COISA

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hello pedro

you fine friend?

I am with a 3400 of the same series, rotating stable to 2550mhz, I am with two 3200, a stable wheel 2500 the other non raisin of 2350mhz, bad that.


my dual chiller this almost ready one, one year working in it, from our last chat for mp in the forum pcs reminds?

The potency is stupid, the smallest for gpu 3\4hp tecumseg unit lbp r404a -35@400w this working to 180w@-55 for the gpu.

The great 1 1\4 hp tecumseg unit lbp r404a -35@890w this working to 380w@-55 for the cpu, using a pump velocite t3 titanium and a special block, 3c of delta to 226w in the simulator

I am finishing the air lite box to thread the xt and the giga inside of the little box and to rotate

and joining money to pay the bill of the light for at least one month, 1600w the two unit

after visit phase-change and look at the chiller, you will like, although it is not with all the pictures of the one you having idea of the THING

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Originally posted by TheDude
soccrstar,

I went back to other posts to try to see what memory you are using and don't see it?

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this memory is not bady im the giga nf3 dude

ocz pc4000 gold rock solid 297hz , 2524mhz 2,5 4 4 11 16 @ 3,37v

geil pc 3700 still not

http://www.watercooler.com.br/mem4.jpg

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Nº01 ATI9800np 2k1 (25960marks)

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hehe, i think you might want to recheck the ORB :stick:

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Originally posted by yuri
hehe, i think you might want to recheck the ORB :stick:

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heheeh, no problem yuri , i go to work again, 100 mark a simple change of new driver i kick you :D

wich 200mhz minus in a 64 :p:

congrats man :toast:

k guys, IM trying to lower the LDT on my gigabyte K8N Pro dont see the setting anywhere in the bios (F11) nor do i see anything that lets me change the ram from 1:1 to anything else...comments...help?

hit ctrl and F1 on the main bios page. it will unhide the advanced chipset features where the ldt and memory timings are visable.

no doubt, lol i feel like such an idiot...thanks man

Put AMD64 from Abit kv8 to K8N .. blown AMD.

Second AMD64 from Abit kv8 to K8n ..another blown cpu

Gigabyte K8n in bin, awaiting new chipsets and AMD64 3700 .. :rolleyes:

Regards

Andy

blown cpu as in what sense ? how much voltage applied ?

well not exactly a cpu record, but i was up to 301.5 fsb on my shuttle an50r with my soundblaster audigy working perfectly..... :confused:

what is that... pci of 50mhz?? :eek:

here's a shot of my ram score:

http://www.maxvla.com/host/4571.jpg

8x301.5 2412mhz
Komusa Adata pc4200 @ 3 4 4 8 2.9v

is it just me or am i scoring very good mb/s for my latency?

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Originally posted by Maxvla
is it just me or am i scoring very good mb/s for my latency?

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:toast: :toast: :toast: :banana: :banana: :toast: :toast:

my ram is just diein' for a vmem mod
my grabbers should b comin' 2morrow if they shipped it already (they better)

OCZ PC4000 GOLD @ 285mhz 2.9V
i can do 290 but will crash after any hard ram usage

my multimeter is coming 2morrow gonna see some 27k I hope :D

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Originally posted by soccrstar
:toast: :toast: :toast: :banana: :banana: :toast: :toast:

my ram is just diein' for a vmem mod
my grabbers should b comin' 2morrow if they shipped it already (they better)

OCZ PC4000 GOLD @ 285mhz 2.9V
i can do 290 but will crash after any hard ram usage

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how much was your OCZ? this stuff i got was 70 a stick for 256mb.

Here's mine.
ADA3400AEP5AP
CAAOC 0352TPMW

promie machII-404, Vcore 1.7.
For some reason, my hyper-x3000 dont clock any good on the shuttle, no matter the Vdimm. Will try with some ocz's4000 for some 1:1 action.

http://www.thelab.gr/attachment.php?s=&postid=21051

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Originally posted by shimmishim
anyone seen this cpu stepping/batch?

CAAAC 0345RPMW
9457135K30301

don't see any A's as the 4th letter... lots of K and O's but no A's...

hmm...

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i just got one too and its a AXDA3200AEP5AP CAAAC 0345RPMW 9457135K30810

dammit man we are only 510 cpu's aprt you must of bought yours from where i did new egg? let me know how it does? im sure you already did post but i have only read 3/4 of this thread its a big one for sure!

thx perc,

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Originally posted by RootX
Here's mine.
ADA3400AEP5AP
CAAOC 0352TPMW

promie machII-404, Vcore 1.7.
For some reason, my hyper-x3000 dont clock any good on the shuttle, no matter the Vdimm. Will try with some ocz's4000 for some 1:1 action.

http://www.thelab.gr/attachment.php?s=&postid=21051

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Best 3400 Ive seen so far was one that did 2650 MHZ at 1.7v under a Mach II...
show me some evidence that you really did that at 1.7v its just mind blowing man
really nice :D!!! Let me guess your CPU is green?

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Originally posted by EmineM
Best 3400 Ive seen so far was one that did 2650 MHZ at 1.7v under a Mach II...
show me some evidence that you really did that at 1.7v its just mind blowing man
really nice :D!!! Let me guess your CPU is green?

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Nope, it's a brownie....
The machII is 404 modded.... will a cpuz screenie do, or you wana fly over to Greece to see it yourself ? :toast:

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Originally posted by Maxvla
well not exactly a cpu record, but i was up to 301.5 fsb on my shuttle an50r with my soundblaster audigy working perfectly..... :confused:

what is that... pci of 50mhz?? :eek:

here's a shot of my ram score:

http://www.maxvla.com/host/4571.jpg

8x301.5 2412mhz
Komusa Adata pc4200 @ 3 4 4 8 2.9v

is it just me or am i scoring very good mb/s for my latency?

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Yup you are scoring good for the latency, 300FSb aswell :eek:

What cooling are you using by the way

do you have to cool the northbridge well on the an540r to get high FSB

mine locks up @ 300fsb
but fine @ 299fsb

did drop multiplier n set ram to 100 in bios so neither of those was a factor


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ouch the Heatsink on the shuttle northbridge is so hot it burnt hands guess u do :-x

i guess thats the reason why and i'm only at 230mhz FSB testin' cpu

dammit wheres my NB waterblock

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Originally posted by Bennah
Yup you are scoring good for the latency, 300FSb aswell :eek:

What cooling are you using by the way

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aircooling only.

stock nb heatsink, slk948u + 92mm panaflo 45cfm

And, another one... need some good mem, :mad:
I know EmineM will book a ticket, but still on 1.7Vcore, :p:

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Originally posted by RootX
need some good mem, :mad:

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i'll send u my ram than
can do over 300FSB with a vmem mod :D

ohhhhhhhhh my SMD Grabbers r in location
on truck for delivery
when i get home can you say vmem mod and 300+FSB (if i can find my NB waterblock) :slobber: :slobber:

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Originally posted by soccrstar
i'll send u my ram than
can do over 300FSB with a vmem mod :D

ohhhhhhhhh my SMD Grabbers r in location
on truck for delivery
when i get home can you say vmem mod and 300+FSB (if i can find my NB waterblock) :slobber: :slobber:

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Haha, Vmem mod is already made, the hyper-x 3000 i got don't seem to work properly...

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Originally posted by RootX
And, another one... need some good mem, :mad:
I know EmineM will book a ticket, but still on 1.7Vcore, :p:

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That is one very nice chip man! :thumbsup:
How much did it do @ 1.7V with the stock cooler?

Mine does 2574 PiFast stable with 1.7V, i wonder if it will do as good as yours under a prom? :slobber:

FX51 0348 Gigabyte K8NNXP 940 OCZ 3200@2,8V(no mods)
Waterchilled
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/2981.JPG
With 9700 hercules 495/337 :
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/24239.JPG
superpi 1M
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/30Sec.JPG
superpi 32M
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/32M26m20.JPG
CpuMark
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/369.JPG

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Originally posted by misteroadster
FX51 0348 Gigabyte K8NNXP 940 OCZ 3200@2,8V(no mods)
Waterchilled
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/2981.JPG
With 9700 hercules 495/337 :
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/24239.JPG
superpi 1M
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/30Sec.JPG
superpi 32M
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/32M26m20.JPG
CpuMark
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/369.JPG

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great my friend :D

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Originally posted by Zeus
That is one very nice chip man! :thumbsup:
How much did it do @ 1.7V with the stock cooler?

Mine does 2574 PiFast stable with 1.7V, i wonder if it will do as good as yours under a prom? :slobber:

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Sorry Zeus, didn't bother to check it with stock cooling... I bought the mobo second-hand from a friend, had the promie kit already installed so I actually plug'n'played with it, :)

For me:

Super PI1M: 31s @ 2733Mhz
Super PI32M: 28m 15s @ 2723Mhz
A64 3200+
prometeia Mach 2

Ok, last one... have to start my own thread sometime, :)

Vcore: 1.8V
Vdim : 2.95V
LDT: 2.5x
Ocz 4000, 1x512, 2.5-4-4-7.

Hey guys need a favor run this rendering bench with your AMD 64 systems...does not matter what video card just CPU intensive..trying to compare to P4EE times of appx 4.45 is fastest To my knowledge..trying to set up a data base independent of GPU's.. LINK ..Thanks

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Originally posted by RootX
Ok, last one... have to start my own thread sometime, :)

Vcore: 1.8V
Vdim : 2.95V
LDT: 2.5x
Ocz 4000, 1x512, 2.5-4-4-7.

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:bows:

nice overclock

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Originally posted by Bulldog
Hey guys need a favor run this rendering bench with your AMD 64 systems...does not matter what video card just CPU intensive..trying to compare to P4EE times of appx 4.45 is fastest To my knowledge..trying to set up a data base independent of GPU's.. LINK ..Thanks

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Just unzip it and run the "RenderBench.exe" ?? cause I did that and scored 0min 22 secs...

How do i get an fsb of above 230mhz with a Asus K8V Dlx and a 3400+ without doing vmods?.

Will i need a Pci ATA controller, or how do i do it??.

Or should i go after the Shuttle board?, after what i have read around, a lot of Nforce 3 board dies??. I have a 8KNNXP which suddenly became unstable, it will randomly boot, so now i need a new mainboard.

Kind regards.
Tiger


My rig. (well.., will be complete in a few days):

Vapochill XE with socket 754kit
1 gig of Mushkin Pc4000 Lvl1 memory
R9600Pro
Seagate 160gb Ata HD

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Originally posted by Tiger[DK]
How do i get an fsb of above 230mhz with a Asus K8V Dlx and a 3400+ without doing vmods?.

Will i need a Pci ATA controller, or how do i do it??.

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http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...102-016&depa=0

that is what i have

i have done 285mhz FSB
need more volts

got 2x10k raptors in raid s-ata
1x300GB ide133 on that controller

i bought it specifically for the a64
but its also good
if u usin' onboard raid like i once did mobo goes bye-bye you f*cked wit card u saved

I got my A64 3200 for a while ago and its running pretty well..

Prime at 2.37Ghz And 3D at 3.39Ghz on 1.7v..
Im hoping for a sucessfull vcore mod in some days..
Im running cold water so I hope for 2.5 with a vmod:)
http://home.no.net/geek:banana::bana...d/prime1.7.JPG

Thanks for reply RootX..it runs different resoultion's.
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main one I need is last one 800x600
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Heres a xp2500 at 2.53

Time 150x100: 17 sec
Time 200x150: 31 sec
Time 300x200: 51 sec
Time 800x600 : 5min 5 sec
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post a screenie of "house" when done if possiable.

Here you are Bulldog,

I think that is what is known as a shut out by AMD :D

Regards

Andy

i feel small im only on 210x10 lol, since my comp was so damn troublesome when i 1st got all the parts i dont want to bork anything so am waiting for the boards with PCI/AGP lock :)

also anyone in here ever had any problems with corsair 3200 v2.1 ram in there Asus K8Vs? cause mine wont go to 200fsb it just doesnt change from 5:4, it wont go in sync (i can set it to 2:1 but it wont actually change - and it can go lower - im only using the 1 stick when thats in as well)

weird score

NEW BEETLE

http://homepage2.nifty.com/NewBeetle/img123.gif

Thanks for all the info guys ..RootX..I think your #1 as of today..:toast:

Any one in here with a Shuttle AN50R and a Radeon 9800pro?

I have heard that there's alot of trouble by mixing these two piece og HW, is it true?

absolutly untrue

That sound very nice. Because i'm gonna buy a Radeon 9800 pro :P

I tested it with 9800 PRO , 9800 SE and some 9800 XT's
everything works perfectly

Sounds good ;) Thx for your help m8 :)

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Originally posted by A64'uSER
Any one in here with a Shuttle AN50R and a Radeon 9800pro?

I have heard that there's alot of trouble by mixing these two piece og HW, is it true?

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i'm using both of those and have had no problems.

I'm glad to here that ;)

Do any of you know the best Air cooler for socket 754?

thermaltake venus 12 probably. i had a 3000+ benching at 2.5ghs and 1.9vcore on a hot day and it stayed below 46'
they do need lapping though.

Can any of you find a compare with all the socket 754 coolers?

No problem here either with an AN50R, A64 3000+ and 9800 PRO. Currently clocked at 2448mhz (272x9) @1.68v with 5:6 memory divider. Very pleased now that I am watercooled. Dropped my load temps 12-15 C over air.

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Originally posted by A64'uSER
Any one in here with a Shuttle AN50R and a Radeon 9800pro?

I have heard that there's alot of trouble by mixing these two piece og HW, is it true?

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i sures hell hope not :eek: im building that exact combo! infact this week it well be running so i hope this isnt an issue?

perc,

It's not....mine runs fine with 9800xt.

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Originally posted by Bulldog
Hey guys need a favor run this rendering bench with your AMD 64 systems...does not matter what video card just CPU intensive..trying to compare to P4EE times of appx 4.45 is fastest To my knowledge..trying to set up a data base independent of GPU's.. LINK ..Thanks

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man the intel P4EE times are only 4.45 ? i just got 4.5 with a xp1700 oced to 2500mhx 12.5x200??? i cant imagine how bad the 64 3200 system im building will beat that P4EE if my little owle xp1700 chips is this close to it? here is a screenie for you.

peace perc,

here's my results on a 2.35ghz A64

http://www.maxvla.com/host/lightwork.jpg

a64 3200 @ 2.4ghz

Have anyone got a 3400+ CAAOC 0351RPMW?.

If how does i clock??. Just to know what id might expect ;).


My current Rig:

A64 3200+ stockcooling
Soltek K8AV2
1 gig Mushkin Lvl1 Pc4000
Radeon 9600Pro

On it's way:
Vapochill XE modded for faster boot. + Socket kit
Asus K8V Deluxe
A64 3400+ ( not opened yet, waiting for the Vapo ;))

Boy, is this bench boring to look at or what?

Here's my result, A64 3400+ @229x11

abit kv8-max3, 3400+ and mushkin lvl2 unmodded and on air

http://www.maxvla.com/host/338fsb.jpg

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Originally posted by Tiger[DK]
Have anyone got a 3400+ CAAOC 0351RPMW?.

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2400 at least. pm me if you want the latest bios for your soltek
memory timings and multipliers are available in the 1.3 bios

2.6 @ 1.8 volts....

will try for more later...

rig in sig :)

whats the record for fsb on an unmodded nf3 150 board? 338 certainly impressed me.

My second A64 3400+ arrived today

32 Seconds on Super pi with 2730 MHZ :D
ADA3400AEP5AP
CAAOC 0351XMPW
its green

my old one did 33 Seconds
ADA3400AEP5AP
CAAOC 0347SPMW

EmineM more specs please:cooling, vmods, mobo, ram, vdimm, dividers, htt, ect.

Yea, defnitely want more details on that 2730!! That's one sweet overclock. 404'd mach2 maybe? I'd like to see your 3d mark 01 scores at that speed, too.

http://hardware.no/art.php?artikkelid=4898&side=2
its seems to be an CG core 3000+ stepping 0347 ???
2380 at 1,5 vcore appearing. :slobber: :banana:
does anybody found one CG revision here ??

ADA3400AEP5AP
CAAOC 0351XMPW
my friend has a 0352XMPW and it does 2800 MHZ under a Mach II
so I guess people should search for XMPW CPU's my SPMW only did 2750 or so

@ 2900 MHZ 264 1:1 2-2-2-5 OCZ PC 3500 @ 3.5 v
Cooled by a Mach II un modded style :)
1.88vcore

other volts at stock
with some decend R404a cooling I would hit 3 GHZ certainly

Zeus

Where I can get Lightwork Render Test ?

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Originally posted by marius7
Zeus

Where I can get Lightwork Render Test ?

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I honestly don't know since the link does no longer work but if you drop me a PM with your emailadress i can send you the file.

http://www.maxvla.com/host/RenderTest.rar

This is mine

Damn i edited my post so the image tab dissapeared:confused:

//DAJO

There is a huge thread over at futuremark.com on this render bench and this guy here has the highest I have seen so far.

http://jason57.iwarp.com/2.jpg

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from futuremark forum
I only wanted to take the lead over Mdawg, but when I saw someone pulling 3m 46s wiht a 2.8ghz 3400+ I knew I had to take thta down.

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Hm, time to bench at 2.92GHz, :p:

Relatively new to OCing... but been reading this thread with interest. Gotan A64 3400+ here, on a Asus K8V Deluxe. I read that the promise controller is on the secondaty PCI and locked at 33MHz... so using that.. but still can't get stable at over 220MHz (currently at 215). Why should this be when so many people are getting way higher?

Rig:

Asus K8V Deluxe (Bios 1005)

Athlon 64 3400+ (not sure of stepping.. will remove HSF later)

Corsair XMS Pro 4000 (2x 512) running at 2-3-3-6

2x Seagate ST380012A SATA drives on the onboard Promise controller

Hercules Radeon 9800Pro

Will beat those 3 , 43 tonight :)
see you then

pookeyhead - go ide or better yet get a 33/66mhz ide or s-ata controller. you have dropped the multiplier and memory divider to rule those out as possible issues?

:D

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Originally posted by flytek
pookeyhead - go ide or better yet get a 33/66mhz ide or s-ata controller. you have dropped the multiplier and memory divider to rule those out as possible issues

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Not tested fully yet... but suspect the RAM is holding me back at the timings I have. Little point in trying until I get a PCI SATA card then, as it's pretty much maxed out.

BTW... I thought the onboard Promise controller was locked anyway? Wouldn't that be teh same as putting in a PCI card? Locked is locked isn't it?

Forgive me is this has been asked.. but this is a MASSIVE thread now... i did look.. but it's easy to overlook something in a thread this size.

common wizdom says the s-ata and pci controllers are not locked. but some huge fsb's of well over 300 have been achieved on gigabyte k8n with ide drive only. so gigabyte seems locked. i have not tested s-ata on this board - only ide drives. no corruption 250 fsb

i have driven the shuttle with my raptor on the s-ata ports and got corruption at 220fsb as well. that was a very early revision with the shipping bios only.

the sis755chipset on a jetway board did not corrupt the s-ata drive. this was at 233fsb which is the bios' max. this seems to be due to a better quality southbridge and or southbridge to northbridge bus in sis755 chipset. jetway support said no lock is present on their 755max

rootx - smooookinggg!

RootX, thats just sick man!! :D
I just can't get under 4 min! :mad:
Best so far 4min 3sec, might be the mem maxing out at 233?

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Originally posted by Zeus
RootX, thats just sick man!! :D
I just can't get under 4 min! :mad:
Best so far 4min 3sec, might be the mem maxing out at 233?

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Thanx man, it's a sick piece of silicon, :)

I believe, the author mentioned that it's only cpu dependent, therefore we can easily find out by running the mem async and note any changes in the score.

Hey guys!

I need some help here...

I have just put my Zalman NCPS7000A-CU (Or something) on to cool my CPU, but my idle temp. is 38 Celsius - Is'nt that pretty much for such a good cololer?

My CPU is'nt overclocked at the moment.


Hope you can help me...

EDIT: My full load temp. is 48

if ambient temp is warm and case is closed with little air flow you could see 36' idle imho.

My ambient temp is 25c degrees. The case is'nt closed... there's one fan in the back, it's taking all the warm air out, and then i have one fan in the front, it's taking "fresh" air in... I can't understand it :(

I am using Silver grease thermal paste, but i will try some AS5 tomorrow

maybe I win the 'newest' competition :D

CAAPC 0401 just showed up. 3000+... let the games begin

*rrrrr* my water cooled A64 @ 2.61GHz

http://downhill666.bei.t-online.de/Rechner/2.61GHz.gif

Wow, that's a nice one :P

Monday I will get the CAATC 0404 XPMW (Greeny) 3000+.
Is this a new one? :D

My last cpu (CAAOC 0350 XPMW did 2600MHz @1.85v on plain water)

I hope this one wil be beterrr !

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Originally posted by SKYNET
*rrrrr* my water cooled A64 @ 2.61GHz

http://downhill666.bei.t-online.de/Rechner/2.61GHz.gif

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what is your stepping/core and temperature of your water?

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Originally posted by kakaroto
what is your stepping/core and temperature of your water?

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CAAKC 0330, water temp = :confused:

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Originally posted by SKYNET
CAAKC 0330, water temp = :confused:

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I mean in MBM5, your sensor. :)

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Originally posted by kakaroto
I mean in MBM5, your sensor. :)

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is not water temp, this ist core temp. --> 39° celsius

[edit] full load 42-43° celsius

Render test can be had here

http://t2.technion.ac.il/~snaelq/RenderTest.zip
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Great Job RootX..AFAIK thats the new world record..:toast:

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Originally posted by Bulldog
Render test can be had here

http://t2.technion.ac.il/~snaelq/RenderTest.zip
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Great Job RootX..AFAIK thats the new world record..:toast:

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RootX is 'da man!! :toast: :toast: :D

:toast:
Thanx alot guys, never expected this chip to clock that high, :)

Bulldog, are you the developer of this test?
I recall you mentioning that it's cpu dependent only, no matter the graphix card but there's a guy over futuremark's forum saying "Sweet with my new 9500 I got 5 min and 35 seconds. That was almost 2 mins faster over my 9100."

Well my Prometeia is finally running again and this is at stock voltage of 1.7V so far with Gigabyte K8N Pro.

CPU = AAALC 0337MPM

Cole thats very slick bro :toast:

On 1.7V aswell :slobber:

Dam Cole well done. You really got a nice chip there...and to think I could have had it :brick:

Guess I`ll have to be happy with 37s for now until phase change is ready. What you guys think of 2.38G with 1.68V on a CAAMC 0341WPMW on air? Do these steppings look promissing? Looks like cooling makes a HUGE difference with these chips. Oh let there be a god and bless me with a nice fast chip...andy get`s on his knees and starts chanting