Only the bios you're using, i guess.
Never needed it, the board has a nice oc-fail-recovery.
Just turn it off, on again and it will beep and ask you to press F1 to run setup.
EZPZ.:D
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Only the bios you're using, i guess.
Never needed it, the board has a nice oc-fail-recovery.
Just turn it off, on again and it will beep and ask you to press F1 to run setup.
EZPZ.:D
PCIe RAID hardware solutions are possible on this motherboard. I've successfully run both the Areca 1220 and 1200 cards with no issue. In fact, I'm now running the Areca 1200 (PCIe 1x card, allowing me to run 4-Way 4870 X2 Crossfire) and both integrated controllers -- Silicon Image and Intel ICH9R software RAID solutions. This takes some patience and trial and error, but it is possible to get the three controllers to coexist peacefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by MnM
There is definitely an FSB wall with the RE and quad core processors -- any quad core. I'm experiencing this on my personal rig, as well as seeing it from members on my Asus tech forum running the QX9770 with LN2 (www.asusindependent.com), so it's not a matter of temperature.
Frankly, I think the board is so over automated that even when the auto settings are (supposedly) overridden by manual settings, some are reverting resulting in instability. I can not think of any other explanation why manually setting NB/SB/vcore voltages and FSB consistent with voltages & FSB employed by the board in 'auto' OC mode do not yield stable overclocks above 4.20 GHz.
I've been able to boot into the OS at 4.30GHz using the CellShock Blue RAM, but only using auto settings -- with the exception of manually setting vcore to 1.475v. That voltage is high compared to overclocks on this same processor -- QX9650 -- obtained with the Maximus Extreme up to and beyond 460MHz FSB on water.
Until Asus gets its act together and comes out with a decent BIOS (that ain't 501 and it's not 403 or 401), the Maximus Extreme is hands down the superior motherboard for running quad core processors in competitive benchmarks (hwbot, etc). The RE is great for overclocking dual core processors, but that's where the party ends for now.
You will only notice a performance difference over the Intel controller if you use the pseudo RAID 0 mode, "Speeding HDD."Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbodream
Thats strange, cos ive found completely the oposite regarding voltage with my QX9650. It uses less voltage vs. my previous boards. e.g. @ 4ghz:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
DFI P35 T2R - 1.32v
Asus Rampage Formula - 1.31v
Asus Striker II Extreme - 1.35v (shocking! lol!)
Asus Rampage Extreme - 1.30v
All voltages and about half of my timings are manually set. Still working on some of the sub timings. This is on 0403.
Mike, no disagreement at 4.00GHz and less. The problem with voltages arises at overclocks in excess of 4.20GHz.
From what I have found in these forums is the speeding Hardisk performs poorly compared to the Intel, the problem is the silicone image Controller uses the pci bus, that is a problem right there, huge bottleneck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
This is very disappointing. Is this really the consensus with this board? As far as I recall Eternal Fantasy was able to run FSB 470 stable with a QX9650. Is it a FSB problem or will e.g. 11x400 be fine with a QX9650 (if the CPU can handle it)? I have replaced my QX9650 with one I know can run 4.5 on good water (on a Evolution) and am planing to buy high end water cooling and the Rampage Extreme to be able to run 10x450. My current Evolution maxes in the FSB area around 425 when running memory 1:1. Should I forget about that ambition?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
Have anybody tried the Corsair XMS Dominator TW3X4G1800C8DF (2x2GB with Samsung chips) on the RE?
At the moment i'm worse off than with my last board the SIIE. Maybe I should have gone P5E3 or Black Ops route but I really love the features on this board. I hope Asus can correct this in a future bios release. Thinking of cashing in my QX9770 for an E8600 and watercooling kit if not. Don't think M/S Windows activation would be too happy if I changed my board again :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
Also playing with Corsair 2GB (2x1Gb) DDR3 Dominator XMP 1800C7DF G (XMP) modules not yet on my sig that I got for a good price after trying 2x2Gb OCZ & G.Skill modules.
I wouldn't care too much about windows activation, you payed for it, let them work for their money! :D
A friend of mine called weekly, the woman on the other end of the line got to know him well haha.
Please elaborate on this FSB wall issue when using quad on the Rampage Extreme. The RE is the only motherboard that I could clock my QX9650 to 490Mhz FSB, and 100% stable at 470Mhz, all voltages manual input. My other boards are in my sig, and are limited to under 460Mhz. The BlackOps was a no-go above 430Mhz on quads, so you arn't missing out rob2k :)
Mezzro, you mention FSB wall, then you say it happens only after clocking 4.2Ghz. What sort of figures were you expecting from this motherboard? Curious as I can't seem to find where this FSB wall happened for you and what settings you've tried from your previous posts. Please link some numbers on what you've tried or your posts seems pointless... as we have no idea what the problem is and cannot duplicate it and come back with suggestions... no offence :/
I find the rampage extreme to be better then my old board( maximus extreme ) are far as quad cores. I have a Q6600 and 4Ghz was a no go. With the rampage extreme i can at least boot at 4ghz ( not stable as of yet ) . Right now i have it stable at 3.825 Ghz 425 FSB. I would say with a radiator upgrade im planning, so i can add more volts and not worry about the added heat load, I am 99% positive i can get it stable @450FSB. Personaly i believe boards are like CPU`s Some are just better then others it is just luck of the draw when buying one.
I noticed awhile back in this thread some people were complaining about the power temp going to high. I had the same problem with my quad core in. Runs alot cooler with the dual core. Quad under full load was going well into the 50c range. I still havent found any good info on this but my guess is it is for the 16phaze power design. I added a 120 fan blowing around the CPU area and i can now keep that temp to depending on room temp 41c to 44c under full load with my quad. I still am wondering where exaclty that sensor is and if maybe adding some ram heat sinks might help the issue ...anyone have any thoughts on this ..Thanks :shrug:
EDIT:was thinking about this after my post Some people have complained about not being stable with the power temp over 45c, Mezzro When going over 420 FSB on your overclock is your power temp below 45c? Maybe this is the cause for the FSB wall
Hi EF, good to hear that I'm not getting myself into a whole lot of other issues with the Black Ops :D. Been building with Asus boards ever since my Abit VP6 dual processor board - wow! that was some time ago!Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
I can run 405 all day giving 4050Hz on my CPU which i've also benched at 4080 and 4100 but I like to back it off a little due to temps. It just seems that whenever I get near 420 it fails to Prime and freezes with HyperPi but still runs the 3DMark06 and Vantage benches and games without any issues. The memory I now have eliminates any issues with 2x2Gb sticks and is good for 450 with very tight latencies. Ideally aiming for 450x9 but it's just not having any of it - tried a whole range of voltages in around 100 or so combinations.
Not sure if this is just down to my 9770 as suggested in an earlier post :confused:
At what Mhz is that Quad FSB wall if i m gonna use water?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
Do auto settings overvolt everything like my Maximus Formula do? I mean is there a real problem running at auto?Quote:
Frankly, I think the board is so over automated that even when the auto settings are (supposedly) overridden by manual settings, some are reverting resulting in instability.
Do you have any issues at all using Cellshock (PC3-1500)?Quote:
I've been able to boot into the OS at 4.30GHz using the CellShock Blue RAM, but only using auto settings.
What exactly do u mean? If its superior for benchmarks does it mean that its not superior for running a 24/7 pc?Quote:
Until Asus gets its act together and comes out with a decent BIOS (that ain't 501 and it's not 403 or 401), the Maximus Extreme is hands down the superior motherboard for running quad core processors in competitive benchmarks (hwbot, etc).
guys anyone tested OCZ DDR3 PC3-16000 Flex II Edition on the RE ?
Eternal, no offense taken. I held the reasonable expectation that a $400 motherboard would outperform a $300 motherboard. ;) So far, it has not begun to come close to the performance of the Maximus Extreme -- again, with a quad processor. I'm not speaking to results obtained using dual core CPU's. 26805 3DMarks on 3DMark06 using Maximus Extreme on H20, QX9650, 3870X2's in XFire.:Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5...2176nw7.th.jpg
The FSB wall varied depending on the multi used: for 9x the FSB wall was 465MHz; for 10x, the wall was 420MHz. I couldn't get an 8x to even approach 4.GHz clockspeeds. I used multipliers from 8x - 11x. Vcore in .10 increments from 1.40 - 1.70 (LLC disabled, auto, and enabled). CPU vtt: 1.20-1.50v. CPU PLL: 1.60v-1.70v. NB: 1.40-1.70v. SB: 1.50-1.60v. Typically left CellShock Blue on auto settings (clock speed and timings) to eliminate that variable, but was able to boot at 4.10GHz with vdimm of 1.92 and timings set to 8-8-8-16, 1T.
If I were to list all combinations of voltages, timings and FSB speeds employed, it would occupy an entire webpage of posts with data that also could be dismissed as "pointless."
I think far more helpful would be to post your settings that allow you to run 4.90GHz stable. My apologies if you have done so already, but in reviewing the 25 pages of posts in this thread, I don't find those numbers. For that matter, I find no such figures from anyone claiming a stable clockspeed exceeding 4.20GHz.
Sadly, it would appear far more forum members are struggling in achieving stable overclocks with the Rampage Extreme and quad core processors beyond 4.20GHz than are successful. If you have found a combination of settings that surmount this obstacle, I'm certain the community would welcome specifics. You now have my settings. I look forward to reviewing yours. :)
Varies with your multi, Chaos, but I found 465MHz for 9x, 420MHz @10x, and 385MHz FSB @ 11x. 8x? Useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
No, my experience has been that default settings in auto mode tend to undervolt if anything. That may be contributing to instability at higher OC's.Quote:
Do auto settings overvolt everything like my Maximus Formula do? I mean is there a real problem running at auto?
Zero issues. Just picked up two more kits.Quote:
Do you have any issues at all using Cellshock (PC3-1500)?
No. Sorry if I was not clear: I am stating that the board sucks for use with a quad core if you seek to competitively benchmark (where the benchmarks exceed 4.20GHz). I think the board is adequate for daily overclocks, although grossly overpriced given its junk heatpipe assembly. If all you're after is high FSB's with a dual core processor, the RE may well be your board, otherwise, I would look elsewhere until more mature BIOS releases hit the street.Quote:
What exactly do u mean? If its superior for benchmarks does it mean that its not superior for running a 24/7 pc?
I speak only for myself. I do see more and more posts here and elsewhere with experienced users struggling with the RE paired with quad cores.Quote:
Originally Posted by Holmer
That's terrific. Perhaps he will share with the class. ;)Quote:
As far as I recall Eternal Fantasy was able to run FSB 470 stable with a QX9650.
IMHO, forget about it until more mature BIOS releases surface. By then, we all my be using Nehalems. but I digress. :) I think the board has potential. I also think its shortcomings were eclipsed by the hype. And there's no shortage of the latter. LOLQuote:
Is it a FSB problem or will e.g. 11x400 be fine with a QX9650 (if the CPU can handle it)? I have replaced my QX9650 with one I know can run 4.5 on good water (on a Evolution) and am planing to buy high end water cooling and the Rampage Extreme to be able to run 10x450. My current Evolution maxes in the FSB area around 425 when running memory 1:1. Should I forget about that ambition?
Excellent thought, JaVa. My FETS, CPU, NB and NB VR are all watercooled, so my temps stay pretty low. NB is averaging 44C under full load with 4.0GHz OC's. 32C at idle. The power temp, though, I'm not certain. I do know that a few times I've received high temp CPU warnings at modest overclocks, so that may be an artifact of the power temp issue, as Everest UE shows CPU temps relatively low. Those warning, by the way, have been the exception and not the rule, so doubt they are alone responsible for the wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaVa_Az
Mike, I was referring to the voltages/vcore required in manual settings to achieve higher OC's -- not the automatic, default settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMK
I've not experienced this and believe the SIL Image controller is slightly faster. I use Speedy HDD on a data partition, not the OS. I would not advise using it for the OS, although I've tried that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by REVHEAD
I noticed when i first started running this board that asus probe would give a warning on the power temp at 45c. Lovely sound that makes too, scares the hell out of my dog. But since then i have tried to dig up info on it i cant find anything on it. I wont have my lazer thermo back for two more weeks If i only had that i am pretty sure i could find out where that sensor is. Be nice if asus had something explaining it. anyways might be something to keep your eye on. The new everest 4.60.1500 picks up all my sensors as where i had a older 4.50 that couldnt read much off this boardQuote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
4.9Ghz stable? where did I gave you that idea?... :shrug: If I couldn't acheve that clock am I not credible? I guess all my board sucks as non of them clocked above 4.5Ghz benchable... seriously I think it's more to do with the CPU then the MB...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
My settings are stable for 24/7 as I no longer bench, I game. Therefore around 4Ghz is where I stay. When you said FSB wall I had not experienced it as my settings once stable, adjusting the CPU multi is simply a matter of raising/lowering VCore.
Also note that just because you want to run your CPU at above 4.2Ghz, and according to you there are a FSB wall at that speed does not mean the board is FSB limited where the rest of us non competitive users are. Infact you may be the first one complaining about it here that are trying at those speeds.
The other issue when comparing the RE with ME is that the ME came out 9 months before the RE, and its BIOS matured accordingly. I also have the ME and it wasn't so smooth sailing at the beginning too.
Memory compatibility is a pretty big issue with the RE. I cannot get my CellShock blue DDR3-1866 PC3-15000 to start windows no matter what setting/voltage I tried, where it is absolutely fine in the ME. Obviously it works fine for your board.
Anyway here is my setting for 470FSB
FSB - 470
Strap - 266
DRAM - 1414
CR - 1T
6-5-5-15
Twister - Strong
Booster - PL7
VCore - depends on your CPU and its speed
LLC - Disable
PLL - 1.51
VFSB - 1.31
VMCH - 1.524
VDIMM - 1.90
SB1.5 - 1.51
SB1.05 - 1.06
Setting using kits in my sig, NB watercooled below 40C under load. 10 hour dual ORTHOS Blend stable, OCCT 2 Hour Stable, 3DMark06 2 Hour stable. All voltages lowered until unstable, then upped 3 steps as insurance. So what is 100% stable for my system may require raising voltages a little. The highest clock I've tried and primed at is 470x9, around 1.63V for my QX9650.
I eagerly awaits your review. :)
My oversight, Eternal. 4.70GHz it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
No one is challenging either your veracity or competence, Eternal. Just as I'm certain you're not bringing mine into question. ;)Quote:
If I couldn't acheve that clock am I not credible? I guess all my board sucks as non of them clocked above 4.5Ghz benchable...
Nope. Not in this instance, at least. This same CPU easily OC's above 4.40GHz on my Nvidia rig. I would respectfully submit that a "successful" OC is contingent upon a number of factors, mobo and CPU performance individually and in tandem are but two.Quote:
seriously I think it's more to do with the CPU then the MB...
Understood. I do the same. :)Quote:
When you said FSB wall I had not experienced it as my settings once stable, adjusting the CPU multi is simply a matter of raising/lowering VCore.
If you carefully read the posts, you will find that I'm not alone in either my experience or expectations. That is not to say that there are not forum members content with their results in the pairing. We RE owners using quad core CPU's appear to be in the (vocal) minority, so it's difficult to poll overall user experience and satisfaction. That's not the point -- or not mine. The point is to share individual experience. I've stated in other posts that I do not speak for a given faction of users, only for myself. I'm assuming you aren't representing the forum in its entirety when you share your personal opinion and experience. :)Quote:
Also note that just because you want to run your CPU at above 4.2Ghz, and according to you there are a FSB wall at that speed does not mean the board is FSB limited where the rest of us non competitive users are. Infact you may be the first one complaining about it here that are trying at those speeds.
Again, that's your personal experience. Mileage may vary. ;) As an early ME adopter, I can say that my personal experience with the board was more productive and less problem fraught than it has been with the RE. I'm happy to hear that you're experiencing greater success with the RE.Quote:
The other issue when comparing the RE with ME is that the ME came out 9 months before the RE, and its BIOS matured accordingly. I also have the ME and it wasn't so smooth sailing at the beginning too.
Yes, I've heard that others have had more than a few headaches with CellShock on this board. Guess that's one area I've been lucky. I've also used SuperTalent ProjectX RAM on the board, as well as G.Skill PC3-12800 with similar underwhelming results.Quote:
Memory compatibility is a pretty big issue with the RE. I cannot get my CellShock blue DDR3-1866 PC3-15000 to start windows no matter what setting/voltage I tried, where it is absolutely fine in the ME. Obviously it works fine for your board.
Thanks much for sharing your settings, Eternal. It's nice to hear that at least one quad core owner has been able to get the board to perform solidly at a competitive overclock. Excellent work on your part!
I agree with you 100% on this...I had to RMA my RE due to some flaky things that happened out of the blue after I flashed it with 501 BIOS...but before that I was able to clock my 9770 to 490 and it was stable enough for me to run a bunch of benches...my QX9650 did 470 no problem either...my new board should arrive next week...I just got a new Q9650 and I am really hoping 500 fsb will not be out of question...a few more BIOS revisions and I'm sure we will be seeing a lot of quads doing 500 fsb...this is hands down the best motherboard on the market...regardless of whether your using a dual or quad core CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
hi there mezzro
could you please post your settings as i have just moved from the me to the re and have just got 4x1gb sticks of cellshock 1866 blue and im finding it hard to get it to run stable with my q6600
cheers
Guys, the new Swiftech NB block is oficially released:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...32#post3284832
Sure. I've completed 3DM06 at 4.20GHz, but for highest, stable settings, I would recommend the following: 400 - 450FSB. 9x. 1.31v - 1.475vcore (depending on overclock). At 3.90GHz, I could get vcore as low as 1.31v, FSB VTT/1.20v, PLL/1.60v, NB/1.36v, SB/1.50v.
Next to vcore, I found NB and PLL voltages key for stability for CPU clock speeds at or above 4.00GHz: NB/1.60v (1.70v for higher clock speeds). SB/1.50v. PLL/1.693v. FSB VTT/1.40. GTL set to +45. 400MHz strap. LLC disabled.
With 1.92vdimm, I was able to run the RAM at tight timings of 8-8-8-16 approaching 1900MHz.
Regardless of FSB speed, I found that any vcore above 1.50v tended to quickly overheat the CPU, despite low temps reported in the BIOS and by Everest UE. It's almost as if the sensor is placed in the wrong place or has a very low threshold in calibration.
I got this mobo yesterday, so far I have only found a few minutes for overclocking this baby
http://www.techworks.pl/xtreme/Scree...0fsborthos.PNG
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
OMGWTFNINJAEDITBBQSAUCEQuote:
Originally Posted by MnM
People really need to update their quote...:rolleyes: :D
Can't wait to get mine :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Quite some time ago I pointed out that running FSB 450+ with a memory divider (not 1:2) was not extraordinary and you wroteQuote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
"FYI my system is running fine 470x8.5 1:2 1880Mhz mem, played TF2 for 3 hours absolutely fine." Does that mean that running you memory 1:2 was not stable in the long run or that you chose your current settings because it gives more performance (I see you have nice and tight timings/strap)?
Full quote from your post I was refering to:
You quote me:
Originally Posted by Holmer
I don't want to argue about how you define a 24/7 stable OC and the FSB you reached is indeed great. However, these FSB are not exceptional with other motherboards (I know for sure on the WS Evolution) and a QX9650 especially with the 4/5 memory divider. Please don't get me wrong but if the settings are only stable to check email and post a SS what's the use (I know it is preliminary tests). As mentioned my point is, it puts a lot more stress on the MB (and naturally the memory) to use the 1:2 memory divider. Therefore to me a FSB of 450+ is only really impressive with memory running DDR 1800 (and preferably 2x2 GB of memory). For instance my MB can prime for 10-20 h at 9x445 but will crap out within minutes in a game. At 426x9.5 I can Prime for 70 h (even I know that is excessive) and games run perfect. If I use the 4/5 memory divider and FSB around 450 games are fine but performance sucks. I would love to see the RE handle FSB 450+ with 2x2GB memory 1:2.
I really don't mean to be a party pooper and I sincerely appreciate your tests with your QX9650, but I am not so excited before I have seen som Orthos/OCCT/Prime/game stability with memory running synced
BTW I use my PC for scientific work sometimes so I require another level of stability. Quote end
Your reply:
Believe it or not, I'm not an Asus employee, and am not trying to impress or showoff what I brought in an attempt to "impress" you into buying the board. To be honest I really couldn't care less. However what I CAN and are happy to do is to try and answer reasonable questions, and try reasonable settings on the board. What I will not do is put my newly installed rig out of commission (try gaming while priming) for a day, sucking juice out of my wall socket, in an attempt to impress a guy over the internet, so he can make up his mind, and be confident about his purchase. As I said before, what you do with your own system is your business, and I will be helpful if the request is resonable. When was the last time you saw an online review site show you a screenshot of a 24H+ primed stable overclocked system? If they won't do it even when they get paied, I as hell won't.
FYI my system is running fine 470x8.5 1:2 1880Mhz mem, played TF2 for 3 hours absolutely fine.
No hard feelings btw, its just how I do things... maybe you can get one of the others that has the board to test it for you. Quote end
(sorry for my inability to multiquote across threads I need to learn that ;-)
Thank you for answering, I appreciate your posts (clean and informative).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
Yes I stand by my post, having my memory at 1:2 7-6-5-18 means that I need to have 2.05V VDIMM and raise the VMCH by 0.05V. infact the performance is indeed similer using everest mem&cache bench. I was just showing that I could indeed satisfy having a FSB of 470Mhz using quad while having a much lower VDIMM. Infact I have many settings I can use, just because I didn't post them all don't mean it was not stable/possible for me or that I was posting BS before. Hopefully you'll understand. :)
And the final session with the HD4850s is done. The Tek-9 4.0 Slims are a treat to work with and even without temp probes, managing them was quite straight forward. Still nursing the banged up ribs so pouring from the dewar for 3 pots was quite a chore but manageable. Either way, the session went very well and a few updates to the HD4850 scores happened...
unfortunately that is not all the news there is and the last bit is not good. during the late stages of the session i got DRAM DET error after a reboot. this was quite common with my D9GTS and about the 3rd or 4th time it happened this session. a clear CMOS, boot with a single stick, save and exit of defaults, then plop the other stick back in gets me up and running when this happens...no problem. well, this time after the CMOS reset the LCD Poster just came up with CPU INIT, as soon as the power to the PSU was turned on :(Quote:
Originally Posted by 3oh6
for those that are un-aware, if you get CPU INIT as soon as the PSU is turned on, your board is a brick. if anyone has had any luck getting out of this without an RMA, let me know, otherwise the board will be going back monday and i will no doubt get a dud in return from ASUS...that's just how it happens with me :shrug:
I'm of a similar mind, Holmer. Achieving a high FSB holds limited utility and performance gains if the memory is running in geological time. :D Settings and performance vary given the context within which the hardware is used, of course, but games also benefit from faster RAM clock speeds. Moreover, it's self-defeating to spend $300-$600 on high-end RAM only to run it at one half its spec speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Holmer
In fact, boutique resellers like Hypersonic and Falcon NW commonly bench test their high-end, overclocked rigs for 24hours before shipping to end users.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eternal
While running certain games for extended periods at max settings on an overclocked computer is certainly one way to test for rudimentary stability, it is by no means exhaustive nor adequate for one using a computer in a scientific/CAD/engineering setting. More conventional bench tests are required to test for hardware/performance suitability in this context; hence, there is nothing untoward about requesting results from such tests, as this is the accepted industry standard by which stability is indexed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eternal
I didn't hear anyone calling for 24 hours of Orthos. Holmer mentions that he will sometimes strive for 72 hour bench-stable settings; he only requests of others, "some Orthos/OCCT/Prime/game stability with memory running synced." Big difference and not an unreasonable request. While not everyone here uses his/her PC exclusively for gaming or scientific application, there are certain benchmarks that have been accepted by the IT industry as the industry standard by which stability and performance are gauged. TF2 is not one of them.
Once I have arrived at what I believe to be a stable daily overclock, I will run Prime95 and Orthos for an hour or two each. For most here, publishing results from two or three of the established benches like Orthos, Prime, SuperPi, 3DMark06 and PCMark Vantage lends more credence and import to any claimed settings. Since we're not a homogeneous group with members playing the same games or performing identical work related tasks, employing some common and accepted benchmarks when posting specific, successful overclocks imbues them with far great meaning.
3oh6, amazing work with this board! Kudos. Sorry to hear it gave up the ghost. :(
Impressive, Miravo! Guess I'm going to have to pull the QX9650 and drop in the E8600. See if I have better luck with that CPU. :)
I'm hitting the FSB wall at about 417MHz with both the QX9770 and the E8600, both brand new. Tried vcore up to 1.7v and I"m running on LN2 with temps down around -70C.
Right.. I think I'll need to answer these backwards so it makes more sense... Also read with an open mind, or you're just wasting your time. :)
If you want to give your thoughts on a post that was written more then a month ago, in another thread, you might want to read through said thread, or you might get your facts wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
Here is his post I was answering to at the time of writing:
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Holmer
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Same as above, If you have read posts leading up to the one Holmer quoted in this thread, then you'd know TF2 was not my stability test. This post follows the one above by Holmer:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
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Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
I love how you assume and dismiss my method of stability testing based on one quoted post of a long dialogue between me and Holmer from another thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
Then after posting that I DO stress the PC once at my desired speed/setting, he came and pissed on my post saying "if the settings are only stable to check email and post a SS what's the use"??Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
Then I gave him a piece of my mind:
And yes, he DID ask for a 24H+ prime tp prove my stability, as per my first point in this post.Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
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Thank you for backing up my point. I can see the 24H stress test can be a selling point for system makers where they are paid to performed these tests. I'd like to help forum members, free of charge of course, but when someone nudges in requesting me to prove my claim of stability by wasting my time and money for 24H+, when he disaprove my stress length, saying it was "only stable to check email", when I can't use my just built PC for what I want to use, so that someone I don't know somewhere on this planet can sleep at night knowing it is "24H+ prime stable", I get a little upset. I'm sorry, but as I said, buy one yourself and prime away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
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Then you'll find these posts intresting:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=121
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=125
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some people just don't contribute to the community... they take and take, and when they don't get what they want, they dismiss what others has given, then :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: about it on the forums... :shrug:
Well, it appears I've stepped square in the middle of a Montagues and Capulets fisticuffs. LOL. I can't speak to your history with Holmer. I was simply commenting on the excerpted exchange as it appears on this thread. Had the posts been properly linked, I would have happily given them a read. They weren't. As you said, they appeared over a month ago, making it impractical to locate them. If you were quoted out of context, that's a matter you will have to take up with Holmer. Thanks for the links, Eternal. I'll review the posts and attempt to put this in context. It seems you're both assets to the community, so hopefully you can arrive at some form of detente. ;)
I did try your settings last night, but no luck. I realize we have different RAM, so that makes a difference. I swapped the QX9650 for a E8600 this evening, so perhaps will have better luck with the dual core. A very fickle motherboard, indeed. It would appear I'm not the only one battling with the Rampage Extreme and quad core 'blue plate special': Quad Core on the Rampage
Wow, finally read through the entire thread.It took me an entrie night to read through but wow, a wealth of information. I also do have an assortment of hardware that I can throw at the RE when it comes in Monday(see sig), but unfortunately I will be on air cooling, as I am not into benching. I will see what I can do to contribute(I hope work will be light next week so that I can have some fun). It will also be interesting to put the OCZ core SSDs on the Areca.Fun time ahead.
Yes, I'm glad we got to a common consensus. Context is key, and with out context comes imagination and assumptions. :)
With that behind us, here is my current 24/7 settings with my E8400:
http://gallery.me.com/jeffrey_lee/10...12213845630001
http://gallery.me.com/jeffrey_lee/10...12213830910001
Settings:
BIOS Version 0501
FSB - 570
Ratio - 7x
CPU clock skew - 300
NB clock skew - 100
FSB Strap - 333
DRAM - 1825
Command Rate - 1N
7-6-5-18
Clock twister - Moderate
Booster - Manual/PL8
VCore - 1.4875
LLC - Disable
VPLL - 1.511
VFSB - 1.325
VMCH - 1.55
VDIMM - 2.054
VSB - 1.511
Setting using kits in my sig except the CPU, NB watercooled below 40C under load. All voltages lowered until unstable, then upped 3 steps as insurance. So what is 100% stable for my system may require raising voltages a little.
Enjoy~:up:
Hey tekjunkie, saw your post in the general hardware section, debating whether to go for the 790i FTW of the RE. Hopefully you'll enjoy your stay and have no regrets on your decision. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tekjunkie
Being owner of the pretty good EVGA 790i Ultra and the diabolical Striker II Extreme, I'm thrilled to have switched to the Rampage Extreme. So thrilled infact I brought one extra, fully modded, placed on a book shelf as a geeky room decoration and emergency backup!! :rofl:
Also I'd love to know how you get on with your Core SSDs via the very nice Areca controller. ;)
keep us updated with your progress. :)
Sub'd to this great thread, picked up a lot of info here. Not to jack, but here's my Rampage Extreme build in progress, used a lot of the tricks found here so THANK YOU! ;)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/FORUMS/...d.php?t=201512
I wonder if the ifx-10 heatsink from thermalright will fit on these Rampage extreme, due to the fujitsu chip on the backside board ?
The backplate of the IFx-10 is a little bit different from the TRUE, there is some space between the board and the backplate, so I don't need to cut it .
http://www.egielda.com.pl/images/art...f8001470e4.jpg
I want to use it with my TRUE, so what do you think ?
Does someone compared the Rampage against the P5E3 premium, does the extra 75€ worth the invest ?
I do not want to waste my and everybodys time with a personal quote war with you. However, you are perfectly right concerning context is key so instead of you just proclaiming the common consensus for everyone I suggest that anybody who cares about my point of view can judge by themeselves by reading the background of my simple request for more stability testing with memory 1:2 here (last post #125 on the page) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=195117&page=5 and the rest og the uncut story down to post 135: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=195117&page=6Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
Besides I think e.g. tekjunkie and Slim123 can confirm that I am also trying to help others in this forum when I am sure I know something usefull for others.
Sorry to everybody for this off topic post.
# Mezzro thanks, now you have a chance to read the full uncut story (I still haven't figured out the multi quote system - sorry ;-)
# Captain Zero, very cool build :up:
3oh6, My condolences on your magical board, i hope you'll get a good one in return.
Are you sure it ain't moisture from condensation?
Tomati, I would be very careful with that backplate. The Fujistu chip sticks out there a good bit. If you're certain there is clearance, go for it, but as you ratchet down heatsink to backplate to provide better contact, that's where you run your risk, IMHO. Most people that have used an enclosed backplate with the RE have modified it in some way. Just don't want to see you with a board that you can't RMA. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tomati
Do u think i can gain some better temps if i mount my EK s-max block directly on the NB instead of ontop of the passive cooling thing ?
Do you have it on top of the heatpipe construction now?
If so, do you have a pic?
I'm sure temps will be a lot better if you mount it straight on the NB.
Thanks man,Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
I also have the TRUE backplate that I can modify if it doesn't work safety with the IFX-10 one.
Doesn't the fujitsu chips need some cooling as the one near the NB ?
I thought it was a good idea to cool it down.
Holmer, thanks for the links. As I said to Eternal, IMHO, both of you contribute to the Forum, and I'm genuinely sorry to see that there was some misunderstanding along the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Holmer
I'm starting to feel more like Henry Kissinger here and less like an overclocker. :) So, without further ado, here is my Rampage Extreme/QX9650/E8600 build log: Trials and Tribulations with the Rampage Extreme and Quad Core; Less Tribulation with the E8600
Summation: Based on my personal experience, that of a few friends that are experienced builders, and mixed reports on this excellent, XtremeSys thread, I cannot recommend the Rampage Extreme for use with quad core processors -- yet. Hopefully this situation will change with subsequent BIOS releases, and my opinion along with it. As it stands, it's a diamond in the rough . . . with one or two inclusions.
As a rule, I love Asus products and do my best to get them to perform to spec. If these issues were limited to my personal experience, I would state that. They aren't. And I'm in good company.
This forum has been a tremendous resource to me in the past, so I feel I owe it to fellow quad core owners contemplating purchase of a Rampage Extreme a heads up that it ain't all a bed of roses in this instance. Go into the purchase fully aware that, through the luck of the draw, you may end up with a board that plays nice with quads, like Eternal's, or you may end up with a board that goes all Mahatma Gandhi on your ass and stages a virtual 'sit down protest,' powering down abruptly when anything other than auto settings are used at overclocks above 4.20GHz (again, where a quad core is involved).
No one likes to hear bad news. Particularly after they're just dropped $400 on a motherboard and $1,400 on a CPU. There are so many times that I could have saved big bucks had a few early adopters stepped forward and presented the "other side of the story." That's all I'm attempting to do here -- spare others some lost cash and grief. That's not to say the Rampage Extreme is a dog. Far from it -- I think it's a stallion paired with some dual cores, but even then it's hit and miss as Cool_Case can attest to.
Not sure if he's posted it yet, but Cool_Case experienced the same board shutdowns and overall poor OC performance with the QX9770 as I did with the QX9650. And he fared no better with his E8600 . . . using LN2. Cool_Case is not only an experienced overclocker, but also a mathematics professor that oversees a college science department, so brings talent, credentials and experience to the table. And brevity. Something I'm working on. LOL
Yes! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Turbodream
My personal opinion: no. Not if you have adequate air circulation in your case.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomati
So I'm about to Dremel my backplate to make room for the fat Fujitsu and I can't seem to get any good views for ideas from people who have done it. I'm using the Apogee block and the backplate issue is holding up my build. :(
Apperently the 16 phase power regulation is not the best suited for quads... so says a pretty well known overclocker Openpagebook when asked what is the best mobtherboard for a Xeon 3350;
http://www.ocxtreme.org/forumenus/sh...56&postcount=4
"wrong
, quadcore +16 phase=bad match..."
:shrug:
Your mileage may vary? :D
http://www.scan.co.uk/Images/Products/824662-a.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Captain Zero
definitely not condensation, never saw a drop of water at any point during benching and after pulling the insulation, i have no signs of there ever being water. usually you find some small amounts of a bluish corrosion on some components if there is/was water. i did a thorough inspection of the whole socket area, front and back, and not a single sign of moisture. i was checking for that and perhaps a blown MOSFET or something in hopes that is all that the issue was but no luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
now...the good news. i have the RE back from CPU INIT!!
basically, i was cleaning the vaseline out of the socket and putting the heat pipe assembly back to the stock setup getting ready for the RMA and when i had the socket cleaned right up, i thought, what the heck...try one last time and make sure the board is still doing the same thing.
saving a loooooong boring story of some of the weirdest behavior i have ever seen a motherboard do, i finally was able to POST, go into the BIOS, then save&exit without getting some funky error or CMOS ERROR on the LCD Poster. i am now idling in the BIOS with defaults loaded, and both BIOS1 and BIOS2 with a functioning BIOS. needless to say, i am a bit hesitant to get too excited but i am quite happy to see something on the LCD Poster other than CPU INIT!
now, to swap the heat pipe assembly for the nylon washered setup again and see if the board still wants to play like it did before its little break :D
PS...good to see this thread back on track and the parties involved worked out the little stability testing discussion. well done chaps, all those involved showed they can accept someone else's views and opinions without any outside moderation. if only the rest of the discussions here could do that. let's just not go back there again ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
Yep was debating very hard between the RE and the 790i FTW and decided to go with the RE. I didn't want to get stuck with all NV stuff so decided to go with Intel/Ati combo. This will give me a lot of options going forward as I already have my S2E.Two different platforms means a lot of upgrade options GFX card wise until I go Westemere in 2010.
@3oh6, I read your write up on the canuks and gr8 job:clap::up:. Do you think if I cut up the silicone gourmets that are used to mount the HDDs, it could be used as washer to mount the NB heatsink??
RE 3oh6's saga: this is some of the behavior I've chronicled and commented upon here and elsewhere -- inconsistent and erratic behavior from the board, regardless of BIOS revision used. I actually got a CPU INIT message and failure to boot simply having the monitor plugged into the "wrong" 4870X2 port (when running in 4-way Crossfire). Never had that happen with another board. I still think it has to do with bugs in the automated settings and failure of the manual settings to effectively override them consistently. The fact that the auto settings tend to overvolt overall, but grossly undervolt the vcore without LLC enabled may be part of the problem. I don't think we have a complete picture yet of hidden BIOS bugs in these early releases.
i don't see why not...the whole point is just to get something there to increase the screw travel so you can tighten them more. grommets should work just fine :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by tekjunkie
the CPU INIT that i have encountered is of a different nature entirely i believe. the board has been 100% tip top under the most extreme of conditions then all of a sudden bam. this exact same thing happened to another bencher and sure enough, after my PM to him of what i did to get mine back to life...his is up and running again too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
every board has BIOS 'quirks' this board is obviously no different. but i have to also say that this is one of the strongest boards i have ever used, BIOS included. all other 'quirks' i have learned to work around are related to the issues with D9GTR and D9GTS...other than that, this board is solid. stoopid solid at 600+ FSB under LN2 in my experience.
What processors have you used with it -- quad, dual, both?Quote:
Originally Posted by 3oh6
yeah, that's where my opinion is of only half the story i guess. i am all dual core, all the time so that is why i haven't had any issues with the board aside from this random CPU INIT issue. it is understood that you guys running quads are having problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
and just a quick update post CPU INIT issue...after flashing 0501, the BIOS seems to have settled and i just fired out dual 32M at 600x6 tRD 9 2:3 ratio with 1.50vNB so the board seems to be back to its old self :up:
:party::party:Quote:
Originally Posted by 3oh6
Congrats, 3o! Must be a big relief.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3oh6
Rock on Jody, good to see you revived it! :toast:
Wow...lots of great info here guys...keep up the great work..my first RE was all messed up...it would keep restarting when I tried to shut it down and I couldn't flash it for the life of me...I RMAd it and my new one should be here next week...I have 3 quad core CPUs and one dual core which I will be testing...Q9650, QX9650 and QX9770 for quad...and I'm waiting for a E0 E8400 to arrive for dual core...I'm also waiting on a Murderbox TJ07 with 2 triple rads and pumps to water-cool everything along with two 4870x2s....it's gonna be a monster build and I hope to contribute to this thread once I get it all up and running...until then, keep up the great work everyone.
I haven't seen too many people here talk about GTL tweaks...are you guys simply leaving this on auto or just not talking about it?...lol.
On a side note - I was able to hit 500fsb on my Q9650 with my Maximus II Formula with air-cooling....I think this board will/should easily do that...E0 stepping CPUs are great fsb clockers....I'm also going to test it on a DFI P45 DK Plus board to see if it will od among different boards and not just one.
Gtl (0,1): +30
I totally agree with that conclusion concerning RE and quads - but this morning I just could not resist a good price and ordered it anyway:D :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
I have very reliable information that EK Waterblocks will have a NB replacement block similar to the Swiftech one http://www.swiftech.com/products/MCW-NBMAX.asp finished from production this week! I have already one in order.
Mezzro - I tend to agree - I'm on my 3rd set of memory trying to get a 420+ FSB. Now on Corsair Dominator 1800Mhz C7 not yet on my sig. The RE is my gaming rig whilst I have an AMD FX62 (i think) for general digital photo/office/internet use. Thinking about getting an E8600 for the RE set up and replacing the AMD machine entirely but utilising the QX9770 - what mobo would you recomment for that chip ?....I'm thinking P5E3 Premium maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
Still hoping for a bios update to help things along :(
The P5E3 Premium receives mixed reviews here, but pretty positive response elsewhere: AnandTech Review. I think it's a good choice. X38 chipsets seem a safer bet with quads, overall, although I think that will change as the X48 BIOS's mature. If you're buying now, though, the X38 may be your best option: The highest 3DMark06 scores I've obtained using a quad were achieved with the Maximus Extreme. The Maximus Formula is also excellent. Again, mixed reports on the P5E3 Dlx, but still not a bad choice, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by rob2k
Great - thank you ^^^^
is the gskill pi 4gig set with jnl, jnm ics still the way to go on this board 3oh6?
I know when I tested gts ic 4gig kit the results where not like the x38 asus board I had the same kit on not even close
SO whats the deal with that should Full Phase be disabled in the bios with a quad core in ?Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
CCC, I have the G.Skill jnl/jnm set, as well as CellShock Blue and Super Talent ProjectX RAM (the latter two being 2GB kits). The Cell Shock has produced the best results for me by a good margin. The G.Skill fared ok, but nothing exceptional. ProjectX worked, but received lower marks. Some still have trouble with Cell Shock on this board, but I think the RAM works for most using the lastest BIOS release (501).
Good thought. That's one thing I haven't tried. If someone here has, please let me know before I swap out CPU's. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by JaVa_Az
Sounds like a good suggestion and worthy of testing.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaVa_Az
Can you tell me is this the EPU II PHASE CONTROL ?. For this in bios 0501 I only have AUTO and FULL PHASE options.
Thanks.
For some reason i thought there was a disable on it. Not for sure one of the older bioes had that but for sure the 0501 only has auto and FULL Phase :eek:
If u want to change NB/SB cooling with aftermarket, then i guess u cant use the stock asus mosfet cooling, is this correct? Has anyone tried Enzotech MST-81 Mosfet HS. Do u know if it is gonna fit w/out problems? Enzotech site reports that it fit Maximus/Rampage Formula, any chance to fit RE also?
If they say they will fit the Maximus Extreme they will work. Same hole placement and sizeQuote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
Nop i didnt see anywhere about Maximus/Rampage extreme. Just the formua version. I cant link site, it doesnt work atm. Can anyone confirm if this is gonna work plz?
My stuff came in today. Let the fun begin.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5...0284vo4.th.jpg
3o, can you please elaborate? And what were the workaround you used? Thanks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 3oh6
couldn't have said it any better :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal_fantasy
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
huge relief as playing the "Asus RMA Good Board/Bad Board Lottery" was not on the top of my list of things to do this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
i honestly don't have a clue. i don't know what ICs are on my G.Skill 4GB Pi kit and to be honest, haven't really tested them that much. this board is my primary benching board and with my new deal with Praxair for LN2 @ 1$/L...it has spent the last 2-3 weeks doing nothing but prepping and running under cold. i have a lot of GPUs to play with so testing 4GB kits has moved to the back burner, sorry but you must understand :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CCC
just the stuff i have encountered from day one, like with my 2x1GB G.Skill HZ's...every now and then perfectly stable settings won't POST after a reboot, hangs on DET DRAM. i have to shut down, pull the inside stick, POST with the single stick, go into the BIOS, Save&Exit, then go back into the BIOS and shutdown. putting the second stick in fires right up again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
other things like certain FSBs at certain temperatures just won't POST...raising tRFC higher than it needs to be allows POST, but then lowering it back in Windows show no ill effects. the next reboot i will POST fine with the tighter tRFC.
small things like that which i haven't documented real well, just encounter when benching and found ways to bypass them when they show up. most of these types of things only happen below single stage temps when benching LN2 but the ones listed above can happen anytime and more frequent at higher clocks. compared to the 790i, the RE is tame though. you want to talk about navigating a mine field to get the most out of a board...but when you figure her out, the 790i can be a monster too.
Lol, one of the reasons that I wanted to go 790i FTW. With the amount of time that I spent on my S2E, I could almost write a thesis on the S2E and get a doctorate, lol. From my experience with the S2E, that board was pretty finicky with the RAM too(read the ICs on them). Try I might, I could not get the board prime stable either with my EB sticks and my Gskills(BHZ)(Everything looks stable,but prime fails randomly), both have some kind of D9 or the other. But it seems to really really like my samsung based OCZs(DDR3-2000 4GB kits).I was very stable with my Qx9650 running 450x9 linked and synced(1:2). I could also get the board pretty stable with 475x8 if I disable P1/P2 with my Qx9650 1:2.0804 BIOS and latter really let the beast of the S2E out.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3oh6
But for all that, I still went with the RE because I will have two platforms so that I can choose the gfx card(xfire or SLI) with two kickass CPUs(E8600 and Qx9650). I could also pick and choose my platform for either of these CPUs depending on which rus better on what. Even if the RE happens to not like the quad and I could put my E8600 on it and I know I can run my Qx9650 4GHZ 24/7 stable on my S2E with pretty good FSB.
Sorry about a pretty big post and going a bit off topic.I will have to get back to putting my stuff together. Man, we also have a good game on tonight . Now I would have to choose ARGH!!!!!
Has anyone tried the Marvel Speeding HD at all?
I will be installing both my raptors in Raid 0 on the Intel ich9r for my OS and just a 500 G WD as well but was wondering if anyone is even using the sil5723?
Bios 0501 seems to make my initial Vista setup extremely slow and I had up my DIMM voltage up to 1.9 as well as install only one stick for the time being since I have the original vista x64. I suppose I should of slipstreamed the operating system before doing this but is there something wrong with 0501????
I'm using the SIL5723 controller to run to data disks (Velociraptors) in RAID 0. Works fine after some initial trial and error trying to get it to play nice with ICH9R -- the two can conflict.Quote:
Originally Posted by Think
:welcome:Hi eternal_fantasy, 3oh6, MikeMK, rob2k, and other friends in this thread RE ! I often follow all thread about all of you about the setting of asus Rampage extreme.
Finally, I have the RE with procie QX9770 and DDR3 Kingston XMP profile 14400 freq band with 1800 timing 8-8-8-21 in my seting bios 0501 :
ai overclock tuner: XMP (extreme memory profile) (profile 1)
Once, I tried to change into manual and at Dram freq = 1800, but when I saved the setting the bios system stopped and not responded. Then I rechanged into the XMP normal again.
OC CPU lvl up: auto
OC Mem lvl up: auto
FSB : 460
CPU Ratio setting : 10, and cpu configuration :
- C1E support : disable
- CPU TM function : enable
- Intel Speedstep : Disable
- Max cupid : disable
- Vanderpool : enable
- Execute disable bit : enable
CPU Clock SKEW: auto
NB Clock SKEW: auto
FSB strap to north bridge : auto
PCI-E Freq: 100mhz
Dram Freq: 1800
Dram Command Rate: 1N
Dram Timing control : Manual (8-8-8-21)
And others : auto
ai clock twister: Auto
ai transaction booster: auto
EPU II Phase Cntrl : Auto
Vcore : 1.34375v
LLC load line calibration: disable
CPU PLL : 1,51106
Fsb termination voltage : 1,31216
All other GTL's: Auto
North Bridge : 1.44472
Dram voltage : 1.94v
ND DDR vref + Channel refs are all : auto
SB 1.5 : 1.51106
SB 1.05: 1.06039
All spread spectrums: Disabled.
1. Why the tuner in the ai overclock must be XMP ? If we set the DRAM freq = 1800 manually, the system did not respond and the computer is hang.
2. The sytem is not stable. The vcore temperature is 45-47 degree centigrade, NB temperature is 57-60 degree centigrade (very hot). SB temperature is 47-49 degree centigrade.
Pls advise the ssetting of the bios so that the system can be stable in good condition.
Thank you for the reply Mezzro but what is the consensus on the bios? Is the 0501 flaky and I should flash back to 0301?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
Ok since i didnt get any reply yet, let me make it more simple for you. :) Is this HS http://www.enzotechnology.com/mst-81.htm going to fit the 2x mosfet area without any problems? The reason i ask you is because i cant find the dimensions for this anywhere.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosAD
Judging by the placement of the pushpins i'd say it'll possibly fit for the top mosfets but not for the mosfets behind the io panel.
At a quick glance i'd say that one is shorter but what's more, the position of the pushpins (screws in this case) is different.
this is my first Intel board ever can you guys help me out with OC settings .
cpu q9650 , ram OCZ Flex II DDR3 PC3-16000.
i hope to reach 4ghz, any help would be appreciated .
So since these Enzo dont fit, i cant find the Thermalright HS nowhere here in Greece and i also i dont want to watercool the mosfets, what other options do i have? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Keep the heatpipe assembly and get a Swiftech NB block or wait for the EK or Bitspower block maybe? :shrug:
Doing the washer trick helps to keep temps down.
Another option is to cut the heatpipes.
Unless i find Thermalright HS somewhere in Europe so i can order :) If anyone knows a place plz let me know. I also think that me EK-NB S-max fit NB fine, am i right?
Quote:
Originally Posted by synthetic2008
Hello and welcome !!. For a start your CPU speed is set to 4.6GHz, I take it by your temps that you are on air ?, my 9770 tops out at around 4.1Ghz with temps of 67 degs C. Your command rate 1T is also optimistic at 460FSB.
Start out at 420 x 9 and increase from there. To be honest I think a lot of quad users including myself are still aiming for decent FSB speed to achieve default memory speeds.
I'm still having problems with this board. It's not overclocked and the only bios changes I made:
Intel QX9650 set vcor to 1.35
Mushing Ram Mushkin Acsent 996625 (2x4g) set to 1.90 - ran memory test and all is well
Turned off auto fan functions
Turned off Marvel chipset
Set Intel to Raid for both raptors, set my plextor sata drive as my primary boot.
Vista starts to load, I choose my language then BLUE SCREEN APPEARS. Tried with only 1 stick. I didn't even have a chance to select the appropriate drivers for the chipset!.
Bios 0501
Hi Think, I don't think anyone here has managed to get hold of the 0503 bios to test it in anyway. I would recommended changing to 0501 or earlier and then repeating the install.
PS - any chance of a link to 0503 ?.