With everest 4.2.The +2.5v reads 1.2v for me.I have these options for voltage readings in bios with 1507.
v12 12.5v
v5.0 4.869
v3.3 3.231
v1.5 1.197
VccP 1.172
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With everest 4.2.The +2.5v reads 1.2v for me.I have these options for voltage readings in bios with 1507.
v12 12.5v
v5.0 4.869
v3.3 3.231
v1.5 1.197
VccP 1.172
Same voltages for the 1251 here.
I was about to post my readings in BIOS cos I think somethings weird:
V12.0 11.937V
V5.0 4.921V
V3.3 3.231V
V1.5 1.184V
Vccp 1.148V
Readings are a bit low, don't trust those much, but the last readings are worrying me. the 1.5V is way off and Vccp I believe should be the core voltage but the value shouldn't be right, or is it? What core voltage for the wolfdales?
Also, in HW monitor the Processor thermal margin reads 0 C which is also troubling me. Should this be the processor temperature? Maybe this BIOS version doesn't support Wolfdale entirelly but Intel states that these processor are fully supported by this mobo.
Hi,Manel.
"What core voltage for the wolfdales."
Load up core temp and check your vid.Max vid is 1.225v.You most likely will be around .9v-1.225v.
"Also, in HW monitor the Processor thermal margin reads 0 C which is also troubling me."
Yes,it would trouble me also.Reseat cpu cooler.Appears intel is using tjunction.Closer to 0c means thorttling of cpu,if i understand it correctly.
Maybe 1.5v is floppy?
I think the +2.5v reads in everest is your vmch voltage. To verify it, just set a higher vmch value, see the read change in everest.
Thanks,you are correct.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by bobov
that is your MCH voltage. it should read whatever you have your vMCH set at, not 2.5. i have mine set at 1.4 in BIOS and that's what it shows in Everest and the IDCC.Quote:
Originally Posted by GJW
I believe it's a BIOS issue, since it's always 0 C, even when I power it on and go straight to HW monitor it's already there, while internal temp and remote temp will rise slowly. Proc fan speed remains at 1560rpm.
Also, in Processor overrides my Current Processor Voltage is 1.325V when CPU voltage override is set to default, FSB voltage is 1.2V and MCH/ICH voltage is 1.25V by default. I believe it's this version of the BIOS that sets wrong values, these processors may not be correctly supported in this version. The processor box says 1.225V max. I guess that's why the temp shows that value of 0 C.
Just realized that the voltage must be ok since it reads Vccp 1.148V in HW monitor, but what is the current processor voltage then? If set to default goes to 1.325V and the minimum setting is 1.2875V, this must be another thing. Does anyone know what it is? By the way, Please confirm if the default values for FSB voltage and MCH voltage are 1.2V and 1.25V respectivelly.
Another odd thing in hw monitor is the reading of V1.5 which is 1.184V, not 1.5V. Anyone knows which voltage is this?
Update on the 1507 and sleep/suspend issue. For me, it must be a Vista issue now. When I set the sleep for default 1 hour, it works correctly. When I alter the balanced plan to 2 hours, or change the plan setting, it only works randomly.
Current Processor Voltage is 1.325V when CPU voltage override is set to default
1.2 vfsb
1.25V MCH/ICH
Same settings here.Apears normal for dual core e8x00.
With C1E and EIST enabled your cpu volts multi and fsb will auto change based on load.vccp appears to be voltage based off of this.Not sure.
Can only change one of those thru bios,do not recall whitch one.Does not appear to work anyhow.Previous pages it is reffered that everest can shut this off.I rarely have used everest,not a fav program.
Try theses,if you do not already have.Idcc is working well for me also.
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
LET'S SEE SOME SCREEN SHOTS GROUP.All these pages and not much going on.
the BIOS shows the default voltage as 1.325, but it's much lower when i get into Windows and check it with Everest. it looks like it's actually 1.225 minus vdroop.
Good news that the new BIOS solves the S3 issues. I'll have to give that a try this week!
FWIW, I seriously hope I did not disappoint or mislead anyone with my posts about the MCE Tool. Away from my puter, knowing MCE had been useful to me, and wanting to be helpful in this thread; I offered it out there before I got back to my bonetrail to test.
In retrospect, I really should have first waited to get back to the PC, tested the tool and then commented. No excuses, my bad!
I suppose I was a bit too eager to contribute. And looking back, it really was unprofessional. Apologies.
On a side note / question: I have not yet tried Everest. Is that software provided by this forums own grand-poo-bah git? Cool if yes!
Beers all around. Feel free to fling produce in my general direction, LOL.
I guess my volts are ok then, same as everybody else's anyway.
It's EIST you can enable/disable in BIOS, not C1E as far as I know yet.
I do not have Everest, the others yes, yet to try IDCC, next thing on the list.
I asked Intel support regarding the 1.325V, let's see if they reply, they usually do.
xMrBunglex, what mods have you made to your antec 900? I wish it was all painted black. Did you also had trouble with the front I/O panel cable length? It hardly gets to the board's HDD LED/power and reset buttons headers, mine is all stretched and beneath the vid card. Contacted Antec, Don said he'd send me a new cable, probably the same length so I'll have to solder. How did you manage?
Vdroop is around 300mV so I guess actual voltage should be 0.925V, cool!!
Mr Steveo, welcome back, long time no see. Don't worry much about it, all help is always welcome when solving problems.
i cut holes in the motherboard tray to run the wires behind it. my front panel wires weren't even almost long enough, so i used CAT-5 wire and some strippers to cut and splice - extend the wires and make them longer. the end result looks something like this:
front:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...1/900front.jpg
back:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...01/900back.jpg
Nice clean layout xMrbunglex,what type of cooler mounting is that for cpu?
Asus Silent Square
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/davedave01/3.jpg
i bought it mostly for looks, but it actually works about as well as a Tuniq Tower.
I just build my new computer last friday and I have notice that the temperature reading with Everest Ultimate is too high, is this reading is correct or a bios problem? :confused: But I use Zalman cnps 9700 so I am expecting it to be low temp.:( :( :(
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...sh_everest.jpg
cpu temp 42c
core1 54c
core2 50c
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...0032008018.jpg
based on your vCore, i'd say you have a Wolfdale CPU. ignore the Core 0 and Core 1 temps; they aren't accurate. just go by the CPU temp, which shows 42°. that doesn't seem too unreasonable to me - not great but not bad either. my actual vCore is 1.25 and my CPU is idling at 40° right now - it's a warm California day. if your ambient is warm, your temp seems about right.
By the way, this is my system. I am planning of oc'ing but the problem was the temp reading. I need your help guys.
The Audio is nice but I can't install the driver from the disk as well as the driver from intel support. Is there anybody has same problem with mine?
Thanks.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m...ums/system.jpg
E8400
Patriot DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24
Bonetrail
Thermaltake Toughpower 850W
BFG 8800GTS 512 OC
Seagate Sata3 HD (32mb cache, 2x500Gb@raid0) ST3500320AS
Case=hot:yepp: .
rush.try core temp or real temp.
off topic, but you might be unstable with your memory running at 1T. i have Patriot Viper Extreme and it's rated to run DDR3 1600 @ 7-7-7-18 2T. the new BIOS lets you set command rate.
as far as your CPU, most people are going to ask if you applied your AS5 correctly and all that. less is more when you're talking about thermal grease. also, that Zalman heatsink you have needs lots of fresh air to work well. does your case have a blowhole fan? if not, you might consider drilling a hole and making one. your wiring is also a little on the sloppy side - clean wires promote better airflow.
that being said, your idle temp is only showing two degrees higher than mine and i have an Antec 900 case, which ventilates very well. i really don't think your temps are bad assuming your ambient is warm like mine.
EDIT: looking at your Everest screenshot again, all your temps are in the 40's or above. you simply have a hot case and probably a pretty warm ambient temp. your CPU temp is as good as it's gonna get unless you turn the air conditioning on.
Sorry, but i am not really familiar of everything and this is my first Intel rig. What is core temp or real temp?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken1
Quote:
based on your vCore, i'd say you have a Wolfdale CPU. ignore the Core 0 and Core 1 temps; they aren't accurate. just go by the CPU temp, which shows 42°. that doesn't seem too unreasonable to me - not great but not bad either. my actual vCore is 1.25 and my CPU is idling at 40° right now - it's a warm California day. if your ambient is warm, your temp seems about right.
thanks, Its also hot where I'm from.
OT:Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
My case has 3x120mm (1 front, 1 side and 1 back panel), 1x80mm at the top.
I am having a problem arranging my wires, Thermaltake has lots of wire and I am in a hurry to build this coz I don't really have time to make it better coz I am always busy. But I will make it better if I have time, I dont know how coz there is no space at the top area coz Its full of pheriperal(1 DVDRW, 3 Sytrin HDD cooler but only two has hd on it.
I havent read all the post here, I am hoping if you could post your signature here. So I can have a base where to start in ocing my rig.
:)
Thanks.
rush.What is your ambient temps?Coretemp dl:
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/
I would have to agree with Forsaken, your case is too hot. The case looks like there are way too many wires in it and probably not enough airflow for the small size. A few things to look for, make sure your CPU fan is blowing the air the correct direction, meaning you aren't blowing it into the rear fan. And like was already mentioned too much thermal grease can cause huge problems as well.
jerry
What the f***!
When fsb set to 480fsb from bios fsb is really 319mhz!
Now i try that 1507 bios...
Just a quick question, what do I need to install to get the SMbus in the device manager to be installed?
The chipset package...Quote:
Originally Posted by rchelicopter
Chipset: IntelŽ Chipset Software Installation Utility for IntelŽ Desktop Boards
Hi guys
Been away for a while doing some workshops in our Profinet Tour.
Anyway, more of the same going on, right?
xMrBunglex, nice clean tiddy rig you got there, congrats.
I'm cleaning up mine as it goes, time is not much.
Don at Antec sent me a spare cable but it's the same size, soldering required. For what he says, next versions of the case might have longer cables, he passed the info on to engineering. Nice people there.
I see you could run the 8pin EPS12V cable through the back of the mobo, I don't think my cable is that long though, on my SeaSonic.
Welcome Rush, join us to tame this beast mobo.
yeah, i had to buy an extension from Newegg for the EPS. i don't wanna have to solder wires from my power supply. i've voided enough warranties as it is ;)
Enjoyed my time with this board.Moving on shortly,best of luck to you all.
Forsaken1
Can't believe you're leaving us.
Give it time, the board will become the best ever, eventually...
Hold on to it a bit longer.
new version of IDCC 4.1.0.25 supporting DX48BT2 as well, although the board is not mentioned in the website yet.
It seems that the same BIOS is used for either DX38BT and DX48BT2 which makes it look that they are indeed the same board, only best binned will become X48.
Like i said before, we'll all have X48 boards soon, I hope. If they use the same BIOS for both we'll have access to all features of DX48BT2.
BIOS 1507 is required for both boards. This means DX48BT2 is ready.
Manel,flash to 1507 yet?
Not yet, I'm thinking of doing it today. Let you know.
IDCC will only run on 1507 anyway. When will it leave the beta status and become final? Intel engineers are working on it but it seems it's never ready for a final version.
Last beta for idcc working well for me.Intel only needs to work on idcc crashing while other benchmark type applications are opened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manel
i've had a ghost in my machine ever since i got this motherboard. i'm running at a modest 400 FSB until i get things straightened out. this is rather frustrating because my old Asus P5W DH Deluxe could do 400 FSB just as easily as the Bone Trail can, and my system never crashed. i've even been eyeing the Asus P5E3 Deluxe, which isn't even in my budget anymore.
i'm 12 hours Orthos stable. i've run Memtest several times without any errors. i don't know what is causing my crashes. i used Everest to disable C1E and will try to go a week without crashing. if the machine runs stable with C1E off, i'm gonna start camping outside Intel's headquarters with a megaphone until they add the ability to disable it through BIOS. if i continue to crash, i'll probably just bite the bullet and go back to Asus, even though i really don't have the money to do that right now. i don't know what else to do.
Hello Everybody.
I am having a problem with the Onboard Audio on this Motherboard. I have a 5.1 surround sound speaker system, but for some reason I can only get sound out from the center speaker. When I first installed the IDT drivers it installed a Dolby Program that allowed me to test the speakers. They all worked in the program but Windows would not play any sound. Weird huh?
So I tried downloading new drivers from intels website. The new drivers got rid of the old Dolby program but I still can't get sound out of any of the other four speakers. Only the center one works.
I have gone into the Control Panel and made certain that the advanced Audio setting is set to 5.1 surround sound. Audio properties shows two options for Sound out IDT Audio 1 and IDT Audio 2. Audio 1 allows me to hear from the Center Speaker only, Audio 2 doesn't work at all.
Any help or suggestions would be immensely appreciated. I will be checking these forums often.
Thank you all in Advance,
-- Joseph Black
hi, Joseph, and welcome to the thread. i don't think i ever installed the Dolby program on mine, but i have the IDT Control Panel. you should be able to access that by clicking the music note icon down by your clock. it looks like this:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...1/IDTPanel.jpg
you should be able to control your speaker settings from there. i'm not running surround sound on my rig anymore, so i haven't personally tried it though.
as far as my crashes are concerned, i've been running for two days with C1E disabled and everything is running beautifully. i think that might have been what was causing my crashes. i'll keep everyone updated. if i go a week without a reboot or crash, i'll go back up to 450 FSB and start testing there again. i'm starting to think we just need a BIOS update to disable C1E and i'll be a real happy camper.
Joseph, i found what you're looking for. go down to the Dolby portion of your IDT Control Panel and check the button that says "Enable Speaker Virtualization Support." that is the feature that upsamples stereo sound to emulate 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound. on Creative sound cards it's called CMSS 3D. Dolby just has a different name for it, but they're both designed to make two channel sound come out of all your speakers.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2.../IDTPanel2.jpg
Hey new bios update :D
1513 is out!
no mention of C1E control. i'm fuming.
my computer just rebooted again today for no apparent reason. i was typing an e-mail in myspace and it rebooted. i'm at the end of my rope.
Psu?Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
Bios 1513
New Fixes/Features:
Updated MRC X38 v1.40 / X48 v1.20.
Updated CPU VRef default values in automatic mode.
Updated PCIe card detection in PCIe Slot 1 and 2.
Fixed issue where optical drive caused hang during POST.
Intel appears to have there own agendia.I do not think in the near future they will offer a truly overclockable motherboard with features we demand.Time to move on.Was "intresting" playing with this odd ball board though.
my power supply is fine. in fact, everything is fine when it's hooked up to one of my Asus boards. i decided to reformat/reinstall tonight to see if my recent problems were software related. i'm on a fresh install of Windows now and thinking happy thoughts.
EDIT: i finally got my audio driver installed. i'm not sure why it didn't want to install this time, but whatever. it's fixed now. it's funny that i actually resisted using my SoundBlaster because i like the onboard audio more.
It appears Intel is working to resolve issues for OEM's using this board, not so much to assist OC enthusiasts. The bottom line is, Intel rushed this one to market, and if you leave everything at default, you get a somewhat stable system. I am pretty happy with the performance of my system, but the board has little to do with it. I tried two other Asus boards and those had worse issues than this one. The problem is going to be trying to dump this board used with the issues at hand.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken1
Can some of you folks do the following?
From a command prompt or the run command line type regedit
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Intel\Infinst
In the right pane, the last entry should read from left to right Version REG_SZ then a number.
Please post that number here in the forum
Also indicate whether your system is stable or not.
================================================== ==
I've just run across something strange with the Intel Chipset INFs. And while this may or may not explain some people's system instability, it is ceertainly worth looking into. I'm curious if there is a common trend.
Here's what's odd:
The CD that comes with the Bonetrail boards gives you INF version 8.4.0.1016
The driver download page at Intel for the Bonetrail recommends 8.3.1.1010
Going through the main Intel download area, the latest INFs posted are 8.3.1.1009
At first glance the logical explanation would be Intel updated the Bonetrail page more recently, and updated the CDROMs that ship even more recently than that. Unfortunately, digging deeper shows that may not be the case.
Here comes the contradictions:
8.4.0.1016 is dated 8/29/07
8.3.1.1010 is dated 10/2/07
8.3.1.1009 is dated 9/24/07
Maybe 8.4.0.1016 is the latest in the series but there is a typo or delayed release? Nope.
If you read the release notes 8.4.0.xxxx has a history of being released and developed concurrently with 8.3.1.xxxx. Specifically, each group has a history dating back into early 2007! Two sets of INFs at the same time - both offered to Bonetrail customers, hmmm.
It gets stranger still:
If you compare the 'fix notes' the most up to date version with the latest and most fixes is 8.3.1.1010. 8.3.1.1010 includes a fix for the ICH9 IDE controller. It states previous versions were erroneously loading both Intel and Microsoft IDE drivers and that this is fixed in 8.3.1.1010. There is no mention of this in the higher version number 8.4.0.1016.
Now, make what you will out of all that strangeness.
Regardless, some people out there loaded the INFs from the disk that came with the board (8.4.0.1016.)
Some people loaded the INFs from the Bonetrail page at Intel (8.3.1.1010.)
And some people may have laoded the INFs posted on the main Intel download area (8.3.1.1009.)
It is likely we are all using different versions, and with something as significant as chipset drivers, and considering the possibly important fix in 8.3.1.1010; it is quite possible this difference in our chipset drivers may explain different peoples varied expereinces with system stability.
So, I'm hoping to shed some light on this. And if enough people post what INF version they have installed maybe a trend will become clear.
Currently I am using 8.4.0.1016 with some instability. (I'm gonna try a reinstall over the weekend with 8.3.1.1010.)
(edited for additional info.)
i'm 100% with you on that Steveo. i didn't dig as deep as you, but i noticed that the CD driver has a higher number and claims to be newer, but the 1010 version on the website appeared to be the one i wanted. it took me a month to figure that out. my last install of Windows was using the CD version (1016) and it wasn't stable. i started getting frequent (almost daily) crashes and reboots for no apparent reason. i think it took anywhere between two and four weeks for the problems to begin to manifest.
now i'm on a fresh install. i reformatted and reinstalled yesterday and i'm running 1010. i still don't trust this board any farther than i can throw it. Internet Explorer locked up me tonight and i just about bought a Gigabyte or Asus. i'll stick with it though, and let you guys know if it starts crashing again in the coming days/weeks.
and good work, Steve. thank you for posting that info. i've been pulling my hair out trying to figure why i'm 100% stable in Orthos and Memtest and this crap keeps happening.
Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
If the reboots aren't accompanied by a BSOD, don't you think it leans toward being some hardware item just failing ? I mean, in my years of working in repair, the PSU or memory has been the problem in the majority of random reboot situations. But replacing those items doesn't seem to resolve the issues here.
Has Intel ever recommended a brand/model of memory for this board ?
Back again
Mr Steveo, I had also noticed the different versions available, although only the CD and download versions. I installed the CD one, although not too convinced, because it was the higher version but the dates issue puzzled me also. Anyone contacted Intel regarding this issue yet?
Funny, when in regedit I can see 2 lines with:
InfVer: 8.3.1
Version: 8.4.0.1016
This in fact confirms 8.4 although InfVer says 8.3.1.
Regarding stability, I can't say it's unstable but not oc'ing yet, haven't had much time to test the rig yet anyway. Been installing everything as I can so now testing begins...
I have some issues with the sound though. I hear some weird noises from the speakers whenever a sound starts to play, kind of crackling, have to dig deeper into it. Man, remindes me of old Audigy PCI issue!!
Also, xMrBunglex, how did you get the Dolby tab in your audio drivers? I have the latest driver v5713.6 for Vista HP 32 and I have no such option. I did install the Dolby Home Theater Control Center, but it's a different application, stays in the tray and only let's you select 5.1 speakers in my case and to enable Prologic II. The IDT drivers, as shown in your screenshots before, have no Dolby tab.
The IDT Audio interface is ugly as hell. Also, and it's p... me off, is the fact that it automatically chooses the display language, according to the control panel language settings, specifically the current format. I had to set it to english instead of portuguese so that I could have it display all text in english (I prefer having everything in english instead of localised). I have to try in the config file to comment out the language section and see if it works, anyone tried yet? Intel Audio Studio is not included they say, what is exactly this IAS?
Randy, Intel, as far as I can tell, has no tested/recommended memory to run with this board. I asked support, they always redirect you to memory specifications, but no memory tested available.
Kingston has had they KVR tested and it works fine. Wrong info, just went to their mem page and they have finally added a table with vendor (not Intel) tested mem.
Link: http://www.intel.com/support/motherb.../CS-028330.htm
Funny, Elpida seens to have a compatible module and I can't get my Elpida based OCZ Platinum to boot without using other module to set voltage to 1.8V first. Maybe based on different chips.
1513 is out but nothing really new for the time they took to release it. I guess they are busy now with the DX48BT2.
Another issue that might be related to INF files I noticed: my SATA ports in Device Manager show up as being ATA ports in IDE/ATAPI controllers, using ultra DMA modes and IDE channels. My HD and DVD are SATA, I have the PATA controller disabled in BIOS so this sounds strange to me. Is this normal, you guys have it this way also?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manel
I have an all SATA configuration.
-2 150GB SATA WD Raptors in RAID 0
-1 250GB Maxtor SATA
-2 Plextor 810 DVDRW SATA
The IDE Controller is disabled. I am using the chipset drivers that are currently available at Intel, as well as the 1507 bios.
Here is what mine looks like:
http://www.acsmicro.com/acsftp/Forumpics/sata.JPG
Manel, i just installed the 5762_5713_v68 audio driver from the website and it had the Dolby panel in it.i didn't do anything special.
Randy, i agree with you that my power supply or memory would be the likely culprits, but that doesn't seem to be the case. the PSU works fine on my other motherboard and i use my sound card in my other mobo, so the power draw should be at least as high. as far as the memory is concerned, i don't know what else i can do to test it beyond Memtest and Orthos. i've run both tests for long periods of time with no errors. i appear to be fine this time, aside from last night's hiccup. i really want this to work.
i really like the IDCC. i haven't tried to use it to change my overclock, but it's a beautiful program that has the basic features i demand. i ran yet another stability test with no errors... again. all my hardware appears to be tip top. i'll be going back up to 450 FSB in a week assuming i'm still stable with no issues. and i can't believe how cool the north bridge and memory run. check my screenshot - 30° ambient temperature.
LINK
Randy
Thanks for checking. Here's what mine looks like, see attach.
Regarding the sound issue, I sort of figured out the crackling problem, it only happens when I set 48kHz sample rate in the sound format in sound properties->advanced, no matter what bit rate. Now I have it at 44100Hz and it's ok.
Mr xBunglex
Regarding Dolby tab, well I guess I have to install it once again and see if it appears. It never showed in mine. See attach.
What's under Storage Controllers ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Manel
strange. i checked the driver for my SATA RAID Controller and it still had the July, 2007 driver. i told Windows to automatically update the driver and it installed 7.8.0.1012 dated 9/29/2007. then i tried to manually install the latest 8.3.1.1010 driver by creating a shortcut for the installation program and adding the "-overall" tag to the command line, and i still have 7.8.0.1012. which version of the driver should i have for my RAID controller?Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...raiddriver.jpg
New bios: 1521
E: Flashed it,
Results:
Waayyy more mem timing settings in bios :D
i wonder what they mean by "updated support for DDR3 1600 memory." at any rate, that's the kind of memory i have. i'll be trying this BIOS out.
my computer rebooted on its own last night while i was playing CoD4 again and i decided to bite the bullet and buy a Corsair 750 Watt power supply. my only concern is that my Zalman PSU is only a year old and should have more than enough power to run this system - it has a combined 64 Amps on four +12V rails and 600 total Watts. i don't like the idea of spending money to replace a part that i'm not certain is bad. i know my CPU and video cards are good because they worked fine on my old Asus P5W Deluxe motherboard. my RAM has passed all synthetic tests i've run with no errors.
i'm just worried that i'll buy this expensive new power supply and my problem will continue. does anyone else have a high end CrossFire system with this motherboard? does anyone think it's possible that the motherboard's voltage regulators or caps are struggling under this load? all my specs are in my sig. if anyone can think of anything else that would be causing my reboots, please speak up before i drop more cash into this stupid box.
i've gotten no BSOD's or error messages of any kind. the computer simply reboots as if i had hit the reset button. according to Everest and IDCC, none of my temps are anywhere near their threshold. all my heatsinks are cool to the touch under load as well. the only thing in my sig that isn't accurate is the speed - i have the CPU running at 400*9 and the memory at DDR 1600 @ 7-7-7-18 2T until i get this sorted out.
xMrBunglex,
4pin molex plugged into mobo?Have to ask.Had 2 2900xt on this board for a week or so.Never had reboot issue,during that week about the only game i played was 3dmark:) .Scores were off:down: .Was running dual psu at that time.If you have a spare psu,maybe try running two psu to check.
Update on 1517 bios. I flashed and my RAID array became corrupt. Make sure you have your critical files backed up before playing with this one. Could be fluke, but too much of a coincidence to not mention.
did you enter the BIOS after the flash to make sure RAID was still enabled? i've heard you can corrupt your RAID data if you try to enter Windows without having RAID set in the BIOS.
my OS and much of my data is on a RAID-0 array, so i think i'll hold off on the new BIOS until i hear from a few other gineau pigs ;)
sorry for spamming this thread so much. i'm going to hold off on a new PSU purchase because i still think my problems might be caused by software. i checked the Windows Event Viewer and saw some error messages pointing towards the IDCC, so i uninstalled that and rebooted (i was running the latest Beta).
then i left it running for a while, checked the Event Viewer again, and found this mysterious error:
IOCBIOS? Google turns up nothing. i don't know what it is, but it certainly sounds like it could be part of the IDCC. maybe the uninstall missed something. i'm a hardware junkie, not a software guy, but i'm still trying to nail this down. Intel software would explain why my problems started when i got this motherboard and why i'm rebooting even though all my hardware appears to work perfectly.Quote:
Event Type: Error
Event Source: Service Control Manager
Event Category: None
Event ID: 7000
Date: 3/23/2008
Time: 1:04:14 AM
User: N/A
Computer: BUNGLEMOD
Description:
The IOCBIOS service failed to start due to the following error:
The system cannot find the path specified.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Another update on the 1521 bios. I cannot roll back the bios at this point. Even the emergency recovery does not work. I have tried about every option/combination to get it to roll back and it is stuck.
Well,
at this point I am pretty dissapointed with this board and Intel. Seems like whenever I have come across a bad board it has been really bad. This one was pretty close to perfection(at times), but there must some some fundamental issues with this chipset. Being that Intel has released multiple bios updates twice within 5 day periods, they look like they are in trouble here. With summer on the way here in Michigan it looks like it's part out time, as I don't get much time to play with my own machines and I'll really take it up the rear on value if I wait until fall to upgrade. I may pick up an old Badaxe to get me by or throw a quad core Phenom together just to see what AMD has been up to lately.
1521 BIOS: I had to boot to maint mode and reset BIOS defaults to get a successful boot. No issues with my RAID 0 or RAID 10 arrays.
@xMrBunglex: What are your vFSB and vMCH set to? Try increasing your vMCH a notch or 2 and see if that helps with the reboots.
i'm a trooper! i'm gonna work through this. i'm pretty sure all my volts are higher than they need to do because i haven't reached the voltage reduction stage in my overclocking yet. i think my vFSB is 1.35 and my vMCH is 1.45.
Randy
Under Storage Controllers there's only Microsoft iSCSI Initiator, whatever that is for.
These disk controller issues is way weird.
S0lid
What new options do we have now for mem? New timings? I there the option to mess with tRD (performance level some call it) yet?
Seems I missed a lot these few last days. You guys speak of 1517 BIOS but I can't find it anywhere. After 1513 there's only 1521 the latest, even in the previous versions download page there's no mention to 1517, even in the release notes it's not mentioned. Where did you guys get it from?
1521 bios is really bad:yepp: .What a embarrassment for intel,as i put board back in box and wait for a real bios.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
I tried everything. Where did you machine hang, loading windows or before the bios ?
Just got done with another clean install here - couldn't leave the damned thing alone.
After loading 1521 my board went into a repeating cycle of powering up for a split second, then powering off for a few seconds. It took maint mode and a load of defaults to break it out. I think it had to do with the new memory settings not being initialized correctly. Once I set defaults then re-set my OC settings, everything's fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
Hi!
I´m thinking of bying this board but before I do I need to know if Intel fixed so Eist can be dissabled? Are ther any other major bug´s i need to know of. Will My STT ProdjectX work with the DX38T? This is not my first Intel rig but my first DDR3 Build.
Hehe these Intel Bios suxx ass =D
For exsample:
Multi set to 6 from bios and FSB to 415 and
In windows it's 8 and fsb 415 with 100% load.
Intels multiplier control doen't work in thier own mobo :rofl:
i wouldn't recommend a BT either. get a DFI or Gigabyte.
Yeah, I just noticed that as well. It DID work at one time so it must have broken in this or the last BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by s0lid
EIST can be disabled in BIOS but C1E can't. You have to do it from the OS. The STT ProjectX should work but I haven't heard of anyone using them on a BT yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNizze
This board is pretty stable for me but it's definitely not "plug and play". You have to be prepared to do some work to get it stable.
What are your objectives for the board?
Asus P5K3 DLX is good choice...Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
This mobo has too big problems:
- C1E
- Hard to sell :/
When i get rid of my board i'll buy that P5KE DLX :P
I could not in good conscience sell this board,unless intel straightens up the bios.Since they have not yet,chances are not good.Alot of bios relrease and 1507 is still the best.Maybe i should not use the term 'best":rofl: .Quote:
Originally Posted by s0lid
The board in my sig,is very nice:up: .
Hey guys,
Ive had this randomly disappearing DVD drive the last few days. A bit confusing is that it works fine, even installs windows fine, but in Windows from time to time it disappears.
It really is acting like a software / BIOS thing (Vista SP1 issue, Intel ICH9 INF, BIOS 1521, etc.) I say that cuz a simple device manager refresh and the drive instantly returns.
OTOH, I swapped the drive itself with the good drive and the disappearing drive is the DVD drive attached to channel 5 (bottom most on the mobo.) This makes me wonder if in messing around with the hardware this weekend I damaged a mobo trace or something.
Any of you have any thoughts on the cause / fix?
Any of you see this with your systems that have a drive hooked to the bottom most SATA jack?
If a bad jack that kinda sux, cuz not many jacks remain - those Intel geniuses who designed this board stewpidly put the SATA 0 jack underneath the path of the video card :-(
One other quick question - Can anyone comment on the Marvell eSATA controller (stability / speed) ?
Hey check out the DDR3 memory prices. Tiger has Corsair 2GB kits for $109.
All of the DDR3 has been lowered.
1st time posting here, but been following for a while...can call me just Sean.
Have a memory timings question/issue. Prior to 1521, CPU was at 366x10 1.5v, FSB 1.450, MCH 1.250 and
memory at 333/1066 7-7-7-20 1.58v.
However, after 1521 (which btw I had to restore defaults in order to flash) it gets stuck on power on with above settings. Currently (and mostly because I havent had time to play around), running at stock CPU values and 266/1066 8-8-8-20 1.54 in order to boot.
Any ideas on what the additional memory settings need to be to boot 366x10 and 333/1066 7-7-7-20?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
did you set the command rate to 2T? i know the earlier BIOSes for this board automatically set 1T if you had two sticks of RAM and only 2T if you had four sticks. check your memory timings and see what they're running at.
i've been running four days without so much as a hiccup, which is a pretty big accomplishment considering how bad things were before. i think all of my recent problems were related to IDCC. i uninstalled it last week and everything has been running smoothly since.
GTJ, you think i can run 450 FSB on the 333 boot strap? i was thinking of setting 400/1333 at first, but i'll stay on the 333 boot strap if yours is stable the way you have it set up. does anyone know how high i can set the FSB on the 333 boot strap?
Hi Just Sean :welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean-E-Boy
You should be able to run 366x10 with stock FSB and MCH voltages. Your FSB voltage is WAY high. 1.200 should be just fine.
450 FSB with 333 Reference Frequency is working great for me. I guessing it's probably the highest practical FSB for 333 strap. In order for me to go higher, I had to lower the multiplier to 8 (when lowering the multiplier worked) but the most I could get to was 480. Not worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
450FSB with 333/1333 is the sweet spot for me.
gtj, thanks for the tip, i'll give it a try. i do seem to remember hitting a wall around 320, but i dont remember what got me past it...
also, MB, i'll play around with the command rate and see if that will boot.
MB, setting the command rate to 2T has helped, thank you, but seems that something else is going on.
after some tinkering, had to:
1) increase FSB to 370 (which was never stable for more than a few minutes before) from 366 (wouldnt POST?)
2) bump FSB v to 1.3
3) drop memory to 400/1066 from 333
4) relax timings to 8-8-8-20 from 7-7-7-20
5) adjust command rate to 2T
i'm not sure why your settings would suddenly have to change. this board takes a little getting used to. it took me a while before i felt comfortable overclocking it and i'm usually pretty good at this stuff.
GTJ, i took it up to 450 FSB last night, but i wasn't able to do it in the 333 boot strap. i had to set my reference clocks to 400/1333 (my memory is at DDR 1500 now) to get it to post. i couldn't get any signs of life with 333/1333 or 333/1066. maybe you just got lucky and have a good board. all my other settings were known good values.
1521 worked fine for me so far, no boot after flashing but after a few tries it was up and running. My mem booted at 1600MHz though, although it's rated 1333 and intel chipsets don't support mem freq higher than PSB (1333). Anyway, so far it's looking good.
Still couldn't figure out the issue of IDT audio control panel not showing the Dolby tab and the SATA controllers showing as ATA in device manager. Maybe it was a bug in the initial 1251 BIOS version not setting the SATA mode to native but to IDE.
there are some quircks to this BIOS version though, screen repaint is somewhat strange at times, keying in settings also.
also, language changed to French when I opened this option but without changing language actually.
New timings are very comprehensive though.
With 1507, I could get the the FSB to 380 comfortably and the memory ran @ 1530(or so). Now I noticed the the memory was running @ 1235 (or so), according to Everest. FSB still @ 380, all my settings the same. So I booted into the bios to see what may have changed. Every setting was the same. I exited and could not boot to the desktop. I now have set everything to default to get back.
Why would the memory now run slower with the new bios, and what could I change to get back where I was ?
If you had to go to the 400 strap then chances are that your vMCH isn't high enough or your memory can't take the DDR3-1800 speed which results from 333/1333@450FSB.Quote:
Originally Posted by xMrBunglex
The new memory settings may be defaulting to something slower. Did you do a BIOS reset to defaults after applying 1521? It may help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
my vMCH is at 1.450, which i believe is as high as i care to go. i also tried 333/1066, which actually underclocked my memory, so i know my RAM wasn't the weak link there. then i changed my reference clocks to 400/1333 and it booted right up.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Sean, boot into Maintenance Mode and make sure the Watchdog is disabled. that could be the source of your newest roadblock. i just noticed that mine had turned itself back on at some point and was making overclocks just about impossible.
on a side note, i hit 4.2 GHz tonight and broke 19,000 on 3Dmark06. not bad for an ATI guy with a dual core CPU ;)
Yes I have reset many times. I am back to 1507 bios now, but I cannot return to where I was with the bios settings, as I get a bsod at the Windows splash screen. If I wanted to get the CPU back to 3.8 and the memory @ 1521, how would you set it ? I can now set the memory to 1333 in the bios, and everest says it is actually there.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
I've read through a bit of this topic and I'm shocked at all the problems with this board.
I'd figure an Intel made enthusiast board would be rock steady. Guess I was mistaken.
set your FSB to 380 with the appropriate vCore. you can probably leave the vFSB and vMCH at default values for that relatively low FSB. you'll probably want Voltage Offset disabled and Enhanced Power Slope enabled. in the Memory section, set your reference frequencies at 333/1333 and then manually set your vMem and latencies to whatever is good for your memory at DDR 1521. that will get you running with a 1:2 ratio. none of the above settings should pose any problem for the Bone Trail at all. i also set my PCI-E frequency to 101.32, but i'm not sure if that's necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
once you get to know how this motherboard works, overclocking it is pretty painless. i got up to 467 FSB last night with low volts. it was real quick and easy. none of my motherboard components get remotely hot.
GTJ, i'm gonna go for 333/1333 when i have some time and figure out what latencies and voltage to set my memory at. i think i have this figured out now.
Sly, a lot of my earlier problems were due to other things. my first board had to be RMA'ed, which wasn't real conducive to me trusting the replacement that Intel sent me (FedEx Priority, btw. they shipped the replacement the day after they received my bad one. Asus would never do that.) after that, i had a software conflict which was causing problems that i was quick to blame on the motherboard. it turns out that the Bone Trail is a very solid enthusiast board that just takes a little get-to-know-you time. certainly not the best mobo i've ever owned, but not nearly as bad as my earlier posts suggest. i've really grown to like it over the past month.
How stable/reliable is this board if you don't plan on overclocking at all? Are there issues with it if you plan to run all the default speeds, etc.? Seems like a lot of the problems I've been seeing here is w/ overclocking the cpu/fsb/memory.
Never really considered Intel boards made for overclocking. Then again, I haven't been following them too close lately.