ASUS P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3

Anyone know were INtel Speedstep is in the bios or windows so i can turn off?

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Originally Posted by orion23

Damn "labs" you people run sometimes :shrug:

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Never leave home without a home made bench lab :D

I am running Vista 64 at the moment, though XP 32 has shown suspicously high mobo temps. Asus probe is the one off their install disk. Chip is QX6700. BIOS is 311.

I don't get the Asus at Service bug.

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Originally Posted by mrcape

Anyone get the WIFI to work using the Asus software? I can see my router but can't connect to it. It doesn't appear to be saving my security settings in the profile for that ssid.

If this doesn't work I guess I can remove the asus software and try getting driver from realtek. Freakin A. Everything else is butter though, I just want to get rid of the network cable since I have the wireless built in.

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BUMP; anyone get wifi drivers/software to load on p5k deluxe w/ Vista 64-bit (x64); no go for me.

Anyone have a problem getting 4gbs of RAM stable on this board without memtest errors? It will run Orthos all day long with no problem, but memtest errors soon as I use 4GB, all sticks pass with flying colors, the board itself just doesnt seem to like 4gb, or memtest has a problem with this chipset.

could be memtest since the P35 chipset is very new.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

could be memtest since the P35 chipset is very new.

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Thats what I figured....

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Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

Anyone have a problem getting 4gbs of RAM stable on this board without memtest errors? It will run Orthos all day long with no problem, but memtest errors soon as I use 4GB, all sticks pass with flying colors, the board itself just doesnt seem to like 4gb, or memtest has a problem with this chipset.

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did you enable the memory remap as memtest could of been testing the wrong areas in memory map ?

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mot...e_bios_044.JPG

Also loosen sub timings don't use AUTO and raise vdimm, NB volts and if you have high end video cards try raising SB volts.. just general steps I'd do.. haven't tested 4GB yet on this board

I'm testing 8 gig with no issues yet.

Well after I got done being lazy messing with voltages and trying to get it right, I finally decided to individually test each stick at stock settings....turns out I have 1 defective stick, the other 3 memtest all day long without a hitch...I think this stick is a remnant of the Bad Axe 2 eating my ram. This will be the 5th stick fallen victim to the BX2 of this make (6400C3DF). That damn 3rd slot I bet, anyways I will get this sorted out, other than that everything is working good now.

Thanks for the input :up:

EDIT: And I never use AUTO for anything, cept if I knew what the voltage references were supposed to be set at, I would haha and that overvolt control thing in the BIOS, anyways I got some findings on my ram I will post with this board.

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Originally Posted by dekruyter

BUMP; anyone get wifi drivers/software to load on p5k deluxe w/ Vista 64-bit (x64); no go for me.

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I found a work around; I got the WI FI running through Vista x64. I didn't (although I couldn't) even install the wifi-ap Solo application. Vista did it all.
The wife connects as a "Station"

However, since there is no software installed, I have no idea how to make it act as an AP. This will need further investigation, when I have time.

for stability run winxp pro sp2 with drivers off supplied P5K DX cd-rom :)

Tomorrow I will get my P5K deluxe, is the Onboard LAN ( thought it was the Marvell) good? I really have no clue, or should I buy a seperate network LAN card.

Hi all, I have a somewhat newbie Raid question. I also posted this over on the Asus forums, but thought I would post here too. As well wasn't sure I should make a new post, or keep on topic of this thread since this is the mobo I'm running.

Any way I have a simple 2 drive Raid 0 setup in my system, everything works great so far. But was curious when I was poking around in the Intel Matrix Manager program, it shows both my drives operating at "Transfer mode 1", which is Sata 150, and I bought Sata 300 drives. Now maybe this is the way raid works? Or should they be operating at Transfer Mode 2, which might squeak out a bit better performance. :) Thanks for any info.

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Originally Posted by mc2k

Tomorrow I will get my P5K deluxe, is the Onboard LAN ( thought it was the Marvell) good? I really have no clue, or should I buy a seperate network LAN card.

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Well it has dual LAN; Realtek, and Marvell. I'm using the Marvell. And it seems to work ok for me. But I'm just a home user with limited transferring files around between computers.

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Originally Posted by PepsiDude

Hi all, I have a somewhat newbie Raid question. I also posted this over on the Asus forums, but thought I would post here too. As well wasn't sure I should make a new post, or keep on topic of this thread since this is the mobo I'm running.

Any way I have a simple 2 drive Raid 0 setup in my system, everything works great so far. But was curious when I was poking around in the Intel Matrix Manager program, it shows both my drives operating at "Transfer mode 1", which is Sata 150, and I bought Sata 300 drives. Now maybe this is the way raid works? Or should they be operating at Transfer Mode 2, which might squeak out a bit better performance. :) Thanks for any info.

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Don't know if it should be running on transfer mode 1 or 2 but I'll check out what Matrix Manager reports for my raid0 setup when I go home tonight. I cant see why any raid setup should limit the speed from 3gb/s to 1,5gb/s though.

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Originally Posted by PepsiDude

I have a simple 2 drive Raid 0 setup in my system, everything works great so far. But was curious when I was poking around in the Intel Matrix Manager program, it shows both my drives operating at "Transfer mode 1", which is Sata 150, and I bought Sata 300 drives. Now maybe this is the way raid works? Or should they be operating at Transfer Mode 2, which might squeak out a bit better performance. :) Thanks for any info.

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some drives have jumper configurations to change betweem mode 1 and 2...seagate's 7200.10 series comes to mind...it has a small white jumper that has to be removed in order to put it in SATA 300 mode.

Anyway tried 2x1GB Team 6400C3 D9GMH + 2x1GB G.Skill 6400PHU2 HZ D9GMH @490mhz 4-4-4-9 2-25-2-2-4 on P5K Deluxe to compare with 2x1GB OCZ PC2-9200 FlexXLC @490mhz 4-4-4-9 2-25-2-2-2 on same board (FlexXLC handles tight tRTP like a champ!).

Probably not as huge a difference due to tightness of the subtimings ?

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m52s578ms.png

vs

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m53s562ms.png

i am not that convinced that this board is really any faster than some of the P965 boards like abit's AB9 QuadGT...other than higher FSB's that is about the extent of it!

here is a Q6600, 32M SuperPI at 410 FSB with 4-4-4-15-22 set.

nah it is faster at certain dividers which 965P don't have - also you're using wrong version of super pi for comparisons ;)

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m11s625ms.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...922ms_waza.png

why would the wrong version produce different results?

cause it does ... try v1.5 and see http://www.xtremesystems.com/pi/ :)

try Q6600 @3430Mhz and @3600Mhz

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Originally Posted by eva2000

cause it does ... try v1.5 and see http://www.xtremesystems.com/pi/ :)

try Q6600 @3430Mhz and @3600Mhz

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you have me smiling now...beat you to it:D ....LOL

here is the Abit Ab9 QuadGT with 5-4-4-15-22..in all its glory....what's next eva?;)

that's @3690mhz not @3600Mhz and only beat my 3429Mhz score by 5s with 260mhz advantage on cpu! here!

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Originally Posted by eva2000

that's @3690mhz not @3600Mhz and only beat my 3429Mhz score by 5s with 260mhz advantage on cpu!

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OK, then...set your board up with 9 times and 410 FSB and let it rip!

i know this is hard to take!:D ..hey!...i just purchased an Abit IP35 pro board...should have it tomorrow...we'll see the differences for sure.:)

all i am saying is that you are getting higher FSB and that is all i can see from the board...Abit's version is probably going to do the same...NOW...i will be happy if i have to use less voltage to hold the same FSB of 390 with my Q6600...i will be using the same CPU on the IP35 but i will be using a new HS, the TR Ultra 120 Extrme instead of the Tuniq 120.

let you know how the IP35 differs from the QuadGT.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

some drives have jumper configurations to change betweem mode 1 and 2...seagate's 7200.10 series comes to mind...it has a small white jumper that has to be removed in order to put it in SATA 300 mode.

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Thanks man, will check that out when I get home!

I got this board a E6600 (L629F) a Ultra-120 Extreme , DRR2 1066 RAM from Crucial

I've never overclocked before where should I start?

Dr.D. start by bookmarking and re-reading this entire thread from start to end ;) If you want a more tidy version with uninterrupted posts.. check out the original at http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=4027

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

you have me smiling now...beat you to it:D ....LOL

here is the Abit Ab9 QuadGT with 5-4-4-15-22..in all its glory....what's next eva?;)

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okay Ace-a-Rue, slaughtered, cooked and served for your digestion :D

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m05s562ms.png

George for president, Ace-a-rue don't mess with this guy , he will make you cry. He's mister memory !!!

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

George for president, Ace-a-rue don't mess with this guy , he will make you cry. He's mister memory !!!

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LOL :)

2x1GB Twin2X2048-10000C5DF Dominator
Asus P5K Deluxe 0311 bios

I decided to revisit my 2x1GB Twin2X2048-10000C5D Dominator memory rated at DDR-1250Mhz 5-5-5-18 at 2.4v (kindly supplied by Corsair :) ).

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...000C5D_006.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...000C5D_011.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...000C5D_012.jpg

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...000C5D_013.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...000C5D_019.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...000C5D_022.jpg

Originally, even with 0311 official bios the 10000C5D Dominators were a bit more than flaky on P5K Deluxe - understandably so as 10000C5D Dominators are validated only on eVGA 680i motherboards. But it seems now that I am retesting them in black dimm slots instead of yellow dimm slots, they're alot more stable particularly at 4-4-4-x timings needing less vdimm and clocking a bit tighter on memory timings in black dimm slots than in yellow dimm slots!

Note, prior to these tests all my 2x1GB memory testing to date on P5K Deluxe has been in the yellow dimm slots.

System

• Q6600 QUPT B3 ES
• Corsair Nautilus 500 3/8" ID
• Asus P5K Deluxe 0311 official bios
• 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
• 2x1GB Corsair Twin2X2048-10000C5D in black dimm slots
• 74GB WD Raptor 8MB on SATA 2 port
• Pioneer DVR-08 Burner
• Sony FDD
• 1KW PCP&C SLI psu
• WinXP Pro SP2

I managed to pull off some quick tests for low clock Super Pi Challenge @3600Mhz and managed my fastest Super Pi 1M and 32M times to date for a quad core Kentsfield Q6600 cpu :woot:

CPUZ Validation
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K..._validated.png

Super Pi 1M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...m_13s906ms.png

Super Pi 32M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m10s829ms.png

From my experience on Asus P5B Deluxe, quad core kentsfield B3 stepping is around 10-20 seconds slower clock for clock than core 2 duo B2 dual core cpus. And even my personal best E6700 B2 dual core time on P5B Deluxe @3600Mhz is only 13min 08ish.

Will have to do some more tests with black dimm slots it seems :D

Edit: okay confirmation from bingo13/Gary from Anandtech here, black dimm slots are designed to do this according to Asus!

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Originally Posted by bingo13

The black slots are required for high memory clocks or stable low latency settings on either P5K board, in fact on the P5K3, the only way to get above 1800 in dual channel mode is to use the black slots. ASUS has the official explanation coming shortly... ;)

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Edit 2: Yup can confirm now black dimm slots rule for 10000C5D Dominators on P5K Deluxe

Black dimm slot = 625mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8 at 2.4v memtest able
Yellow dimm slot = 590mhz 5-5-5-18 10-42-10-10-11 at 2.45v semi stable in memtest

Huge difference!

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Originally Posted by eva2000

okay Ace-a-Rue, slaughtered, cooked and served for your digestion :D

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YOU are a good sport:D ...i will concede that the P5K is slightly faster in at least the SuperPI category; BUT, not by much..hehehehe:p:

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Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

George for president, Ace-a-rue don't mess with this guy , he will make you cry. He's mister memory !!!

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like MY wife!...LOL...she makes me cry when she regurgitates all the prior mistakes that i made...hehehehehehe:p:

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Originally Posted by eva2000

LOL :)


[/CENTER]Originally, even with 0311 official bios the 10000C5D Dominators were a bit more than flaky on P5K Deluxe - understandably so as 10000C5D Dominators are validated only on eVGA 680i motherboards. But it seems now that I am retesting them in black dimm slots instead of yellow dimm slots, they're alot more stable particularly at 4-4-4-x timings needing less vdimm and clocking a bit tighter on memory timings in black dimm slots than in yellow dimm slots!



Will have to do some more tests with black dimm slots it seems :D

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The black slots are required for high memory clocks or stable low latency settings on either P5K board, in fact on the P5K3, the only way to get above 1800 in dual channel mode is to use the black slots. ASUS has the official explanation coming shortly... ;)

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

YOU are a good sport:D ...i will concede that the P5K is slightly faster in at least the SuperPI category; BUT, not by much..hehehehe:p:

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:D

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Originally Posted by bingo13

The black slots are required for high memory clocks or stable low latency settings on either P5K board, in fact on the P5K3, the only way to get above 1800 in dual channel mode is to use the black slots. ASUS has the official explanation coming shortly... ;)

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ah ha! now ya tell me after all my ram tests in yellow slots :shakes:

Updating notes in first post with this vital piece of info.. thanks Gary :)

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Originally Posted by bingo13

The black slots are required for high memory clocks or stable low latency settings on either P5K board, in fact on the P5K3, the only way to get above 1800 in dual channel mode is to use the black slots. ASUS has the official explanation coming shortly... ;)

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Geat find Eva... nice to have the confirmation as well (albeit after the find lol)

I wonder if the same holds true for any of the P5B range? Might have opened up another whole playing field? Can't help wonder and hope someone way above me has a crack at testing it out.

I wonder what would happen if you guys disabled cores? For Conroes IMHO most 965 and P35 perform nearly identically at the same speeds. It seems like the P5K just has an upper hand with quad cores...

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Originally Posted by bingo13

The black slots are required for high memory clocks or stable low latency settings on either P5K board, in fact on the P5K3, the only way to get above 1800 in dual channel mode is to use the black slots. ASUS has the official explanation coming shortly... ;)

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And why is this information not in the manual or anywhere else?

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Originally Posted by orion23

And why is this information not in the manual or anywhere else?

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you are to much with that one!:D

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Geat find Eva... nice to have the confirmation as well (albeit after the find lol)

I wonder if the same holds true for any of the P5B range? Might have opened up another whole playing field? Can't help wonder and hope someone way above me has a crack at testing it out.

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on my P5B Deluxe both dimm slots were about the same no one pair of slots was a clear winner like on P5K Deluxe.

Yup also can re-confirm now black dimm slots rule for 10000C5D Dominators on P5K Deluxe

Black dimm slot = 625mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8 at 2.4v memtest able
Yellow dimm slot = 590mhz 5-5-5-18 10-42-10-10-11 at 2.45v semi stable in memtest

Huge difference!

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Originally Posted by eva2000

on my P5B Deluxe both dimm slots were about the same no one pair of slots was a clear winner like on P5K Deluxe.

Yup also can re-confirm now black dimm slots rule for 10000C5D Dominators on P5K Deluxe

Black dimm slot = 625mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8 at 2.4v memtest able
Yellow dimm slot = 590mhz 5-5-5-18 10-42-10-10-11 at 2.45v semi stable in memtest

Huge difference!

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hm, ill have to try those black slots. guess the NB has a clear favorite channel, at least on your MB. guess Intel MB's aren't as picky about ram as AMD chipset boards are. (make sure you use the 1st slots or your computer will burst into flames!!!) :D

This does not bode well for anyone trying the C2D's in all 4 slots :(

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This does not bode well for anyone trying the C2D's in all 4 slots :(

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not really just means a bit more tweaking

Quick run with 2x 1GB Team 6400C3 D9GMH + 2x 1GB G.Skill 6400PHU2 HZ D9GMH on Asus P5K Deluxe @490mhz 4-4-4-9 2-25-2-2-4 (tightest subtimings possible with bit more vdimm)

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...width_cpuz.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m52s578ms.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K..._32m_1024m.png

Buffered
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...i/mem_buff.png

Unbuffered
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...mem_unbuff.png

2x1GB Twin2X2048-10000C5DF Dominator
Asus P5K Deluxe 0311 bios

More tests to confirm that indeed black dimm slots on Asus P5K Deluxe seem to clock these 10000C5D Dominators alot higher with tighter timings and lower vdimm than yellow dimm slots.

System

• Q6600 QUPT B3 ES
• Corsair Nautilus 500 3/8" ID
• Asus P5K Deluxe 0311 official bios
• 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
• 2x1GB Corsair Twin2X2048-10000C5D in black dimm slots
• 74GB WD Raptor 8MB on SATA 2 port
• Pioneer DVR-08 Burner
• Sony FDD
• 1KW PCP&C SLI psu
• WinXP Pro SP2

Corsair 10000C5D Dominators:

Using memtest86+ v1.70:

Yellow slots = 590mhz 5-5-5-18 10-42-10-10-11 at 2.45v memtest semi stable
Black slots = 625mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8 at 2.4v memtest able

In windows had to loosen the subtimings up and drop the clocks a bit for 2.4v vdimm but still @620Mhz 5-5-5-15 8-30-8-8-8 at 2.4v is much better than Yellow slots @590mhz 5-5-5-18 10-42-10-10-11 at 2.45v which was only semi stable in memtest.

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JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 388
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1242
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
TWR: 8
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 8
TRRD: 8
TRTP: 8
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: N/A
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.475v
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.4
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: 1.20

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

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CPUZ Validation
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K..._validated.png

Everest Ultimate
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K..._bandwidth.png

Short Prime95 v25.2 blend test
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...blend_load.png

Super Pi 32M Single & Dual

Single 32M
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m48s891ms.png

Dual 32M

half way mark

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...2m_halfway.png

Complete

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...i-32m_dual.png

Sandra XI SP2
Buffered

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...em_buff_tn.png

Unbuffered

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K..._unbuff_tn.png

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Originally Posted by eva2000

LOL :)
Will have to do some more tests with black dimm slots it seems :D

Edit: okay confirmation from bingo13/Gary from Anandtech here, black dimm slots are designed to do this according to Asus!



Edit 2: Yup can confirm now black dimm slots rule for 10000C5D Dominators on P5K Deluxe

Black dimm slot = 625mhz 5-5-5-15 3-30-3-3-8 at 2.4v memtest able
Yellow dimm slot = 590mhz 5-5-5-18 10-42-10-10-11 at 2.45v semi stable in memtest

Huge difference!

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Hmm, gotta try this. I am very curious as to te exact explanation of this from Asus.

Hey EVA, forget benching, your should start up a screenie composite posting championship. Man you got it down to a science. I'm way too lazy. ;)

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Hmm, gotta try this. I am very curious as to te exact explanation of this from Asus.

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yeah i curious about it as well.. why not make all 4 slots do this ? :D

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Hey EVA, forget benching, your should start up a screenie composite posting championship. Man you got it down to a science. I'm way too lazy. ;)

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LOL... i don't like wasting needless space in my screenshots to keep file size down since i do host all my own pics on my own server :D

"Hey EVA, forget benching, your should start up a screenie composite posting championship. Man you got it down to a science."
He does. Eva, are you on vacation or something. All that takes much time. It is very helpful though and nice find on the dimm slots. Reminds me of the orange and yellow ones from awhile back.

nah not on vacation but read my forum member title

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great results eva2000.

gives me hope that i can get more out of my OCZ Platinum chips which have turned out to be pretty disappointing. cant run DDR2-1000 4-4-4-15 with 2.35v or 5-5-5-15 at 1200mHz at same vDIMM. think its safe to run 2.4v w/o active cooling on the chips?

time to try the yellow slots :D

Been playing with my P5K Deluxe + E6400 for a bit now. Currently has 0311 bios. For some reason, my system sorta hangs for no reason at random intervals. It's not a stability issue, it's something else, like the BIOS is just stopping for no reason or something. I'll be running Orthos for awhile, and the OS just sorta stops responding. Orthos continues to still run, passing tests, but AI Suite/Core temp just stops updating, Orthos timer stops, the "GO" flashing stops, Tests continue to pass, can't even push the Start menu, Mouse still moves, but everything sorta just hangs there. I can't even turn the system off using the power switch, I have to turn it off using the switch on the PSU. After letting it cool off a bit, I go back into the BIOS, and the clock is behind, as it seems the time stopped after the "hang" occurs.

Anyone experience anything similar? Really need to figure out what's causing this. This is happening on stock settings even, it's really strange. Got a 40gb IDE hooked up, a sata optical drive on the black slot, both controllers running IDE mode. PSU is Corsair HX520.

Hi eva, or anyone else here. I am getting finally tomorrow my P5K deluxe.And I am pretty new to Intel ( currently got a AMD s939, didnt tweak anything for like 2 years:X) So I want to prepare myself for it. I see that u run memtest 86+ for testing ram first. I remember that it is not neccasary to run all tests but just some of those ( 8 test if I can remember ), so which of them u often run and how many loops( or hours) will give u a good indication of stability of RAM, and what are actually SPD timings and what values should i set them, got btw a Mushkin XP2 Pc8500 5-5-4-12 @2,1-2,35V rated (D9MGH). And I know the Vdamper works pretty well on this board, so none vdroops ( or lil bit), but how are the vcore in real time , compared with what u set in BIOS?, did any one measured it with a Multi-meter? Any help appreciated

Just got mine set up after dead BX2.

Initial findings:

CPU: 3800 MHZ, 475x8 @ 1.46v
RAM: 1:1 4-4-4-10 2T @ 2.1v

Looking promising. Getting some strange program errors, particularly with ZoneAlarm - going to have to try iron that out but I suspect it is the RAM. I might loosen it to 4-4-4-12 and see if that helps any.

Also feeling this strange OS "lag" where things jump around a little bit. Going to have to figure that out.

But so far, things are looking up!

EDIT: Bah, ram didn't like those settings. Backed it down to 422x9 4-4-4-10.

ASUS should be releasing 0403 for the P5K-D shortly, it has improved 1T operation and FSB straps. Overclocking is looking a little better in the mid-range now with tighter memory timings. ;)

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great results eva2000.

gives me hope that i can get more out of my OCZ Platinum chips which have turned out to be pretty disappointing. cant run DDR2-1000 4-4-4-15 with 2.35v or 5-5-5-15 at 1200mHz at same vDIMM. think its safe to run 2.4v w/o active cooling on the chips?

time to try the yellow slots :D

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i wouldn't even try 2.1v vdimm without active cooling ;)

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Originally Posted by Silver Fox

Been playing with my P5K Deluxe + E6400 for a bit now. Currently has 0311 bios. For some reason, my system sorta hangs for no reason at random intervals. It's not a stability issue, it's something else, like the BIOS is just stopping for no reason or something. I'll be running Orthos for awhile, and the OS just sorta stops responding. Orthos continues to still run, passing tests, but AI Suite/Core temp just stops updating, Orthos timer stops, the "GO" flashing stops, Tests continue to pass, can't even push the Start menu, Mouse still moves, but everything sorta just hangs there. I can't even turn the system off using the power switch, I have to turn it off using the switch on the PSU. After letting it cool off a bit, I go back into the BIOS, and the clock is behind, as it seems the time stopped after the "hang" occurs.

Anyone experience anything similar? Really need to figure out what's causing this. This is happening on stock settings even, it's really strange. Got a 40gb IDE hooked up, a sata optical drive on the black slot, both controllers running IDE mode. PSU is Corsair HX520.

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what keyboard/mouse you using PS/2 and adaptors for PS/2 to USB ?

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Originally Posted by mc2k

Hi eva, or anyone else here. I am getting finally tomorrow my P5K deluxe.And I am pretty new to Intel ( currently got a AMD s939, didnt tweak anything for like 2 years:X) So I want to prepare myself for it. I see that u run memtest 86+ for testing ram first. I remember that it is not neccasary to run all tests but just some of those ( 8 test if I can remember ), so which of them u often run and how many loops( or hours) will give u a good indication of stability of RAM, and what are actually SPD timings and what values should i set them, got btw a Mushkin XP2 Pc8500 5-5-4-12 @2,1-2,35V rated (D9MGH). And I know the Vdamper works pretty well on this board, so none vdroops ( or lil bit), but how are the vcore in real time , compared with what u set in BIOS?, did any one measured it with a Multi-meter? Any help appreciated

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memtest86+ v1.70 usage guide applies to DDR1/DDR2 still in most cases http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=6

haven't measured with DMM as my board is in corner of the room which is hard to position myself to do something as delicate as shoving a DMM probe around the board LOL

As to what subtimings you should set there's no hard or fast rule, test in memtest and then windows whatever works stably for your memory. Loose sub timings to start with would be 10-42-10-10-11 and tighten and test from there

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Originally Posted by bingo13

ASUS should be releasing 0403 for the P5K-D shortly, it has improved 1T operation and FSB straps. Overclocking is looking a little better in the mid-range now with tighter memory timings. ;)

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oooooh sounds good... 1T is something i haven't looked into much after hitting a wall around 350mhz 1T with 0311 heh

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Originally Posted by eva2000

what keyboard/mouse you using PS/2 and adaptors for PS/2 to USB ?

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PS/2 KB, USB mouse. No adaptors in between.

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Originally Posted by Silver Fox

PS/2 KB, USB mouse. No adaptors in between.

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probably time to isolate and test each component in your system

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Originally Posted by eva2000

probably time to isolate and test each component in your system

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I got mine a few weeks ago and after gathering parts last night I tried to turn the system on - tried as there is no video display at all, no post no nothing. All the fans, hdds, cdrom start up but thats how far it goes.

I have tried:

removed all devices but video card, memory, CPU
boot with one stick of ram (GSkill 8500)
move the stick of ram to different slots
another stick of ram (GSkill 6400)
different PCI-E video card
PCI video card
generic 667 DDR2
different power supply
different CPU (celeron D)
moved the mobo on my desk
clear bios
USB bios reflash (thought that bios might be empty as I get no post at all)
battery out

Is there anything I missed? Contacted supplier and I will have to see what he says tomorrow (I hope Nigel is a nice guy).

Nigel's a nice guy AFAIK :)

i had no video display once when i changed from PCI FX5200 card to 8800GTS PCI-E card... had to clear cmos to get 8800GTS PCI-E to work.. other than that no more video display issues.

what bios you using ? celeron D as in 533FSB cpus ? they aren't supported by P5K P35 chipset so you'd have boot up issues with 533FSB bus cpus on P35 chipset.

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Originally Posted by eva2000

probably time to isolate and test each component in your system

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Trying another hard drive now, hopefully it was a HDD issue. Would suck if the mobo is just plain faulty. Really strange issue though, never ever experienced something like this before.

I have a noob question...

You guys are running the 6600 at 400x9 on air, to make your memory ratios good (right?). Chip prices aside for a moment, is heat the only reason you don't use a 6700 and go to 400x10?

3.6 more doable than 4ghz :)

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Originally Posted by MnM

different CPU (celeron D)
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FYI: This P5K Deluxe doesn't support 533 FSB CPU anymore. Since Celeron D is a 533 FSB CPU, you are out of luck on that.

I was hoping to use my Celeron D 356 on it until I read Asus' FAQ section.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/boble76/Tietoko.../7x505_32M.gif

CPU @ 1.425V from BIOS (E6600 L629A807) lapped (water +28C)
NB @ 1.55V from BIOS
SB @ 1.2V from BIOS
MEM @ 2.2V from BIOS

bios 0311

Dam it.. swapped out Q6600B3 for E6700 L629B079 B2 and seems i'm always floating around 13min 08s to 11s :lol:

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m09s312ms.png

My system temp is quite high, 38 idle 46+ orthos @ 1.4v on n-b. I think i need to check if it makes good contact.... But prolly not:( i have a MCX159-CU over so maybe i need to put it on, any sugestions for s-b? if there is possible give me an url for shop in EU:)

Starting to think my board is faulty. It has trouble booting after a forced shutdown. My Sata drive didn't get recognized just now, it's just acting really weird. If it fails consistently, I wouldn't be as confused, but why is it able to do Orthos for 4+ hours, then as I Shut Down from windows, it just hangs there, eventually being forced to turn it off from the PSU. Really weird. Time to RMA me thinks.

Edit: Board won't even POST anymore. Great...

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Originally Posted by eva2000

Nigel's a nice guy AFAIK :)

i had no video display once when i changed from PCI FX5200 card to 8800GTS PCI-E card... had to clear cmos to get 8800GTS PCI-E to work.. other than that no more video display issues.

what bios you using ? celeron D as in 533FSB cpus ? they aren't supported by P5K P35 chipset so you'd have boot up issues with 533FSB bus cpus on P35 chipset.

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Hmm dont know what bios I am using - it doesnt display aything!!
Yeah I red about the CPU. Tried an X6800 same result.
DO those boards make any sound at all? Like beeps and such? I dont even get a beep out of it.

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Originally Posted by eva2000

okay Ace-a-Rue, slaughtered, cooked and served for your digestion :D

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EVA! a little feedback on the Abit IP35 Pro.

the only difference was higher FSB (495) for my Q6600 and higher memory bandwidth:

still about the same performance as the QuadGT which was limited to 410 FSB...except...the memory bandwidth.

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Originally Posted by Ten

My system temp is quite high, 38 idle 46+ orthos @ 1.4v on n-b. I think i need to check if it makes good contact.... But prolly not:( i have a MCX159-CU over so maybe i need to put it on, any sugestions for s-b? if there is possible give me an url for shop in EU:)

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with the same nb voltage i got pretty much the same temp as you as soon as i start pushing the ram a bit 37 iddle 46&#176; after 5+ of orthos
i manage to reduce it a bit by replacing the asus tim under sb and nb by AC mx-1 tim now running at 44&#176; max after 2hour+ of orthos.

for your S/B cooler you could try the HR-05 sli, its the only one i could think off that would fit with your 8800 gtx.

after reading all the great infos posted by eva i decided to test my ram while waiting for my WC parts :
iam using crucial pc8000 2*1gb did all my test with 4-4-4-9-2-25-2-2-4 @2.20 with HR-07 and a 80mm fan on top, OS : (vista 64).

yellow slot : max stable with orthos large fft(2hours+) 510 mghz
back slot : max stable with orthos large fft (5hour+) 528 mghz
black slot 1T : max stable sith orthos large fft (5 hour+) 444 mghz.

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Originally Posted by Ten

My system temp is quite high, 38 idle 46+ orthos @ 1.4v on n-b. I think i need to check if it makes good contact.... But prolly not:( i have a MCX159-CU over so maybe i need to put it on, any sugestions for s-b? if there is possible give me an url for shop in EU:)

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i'm still using stock NB heatpipe heastink with stock TIM unchanged... just a fan over NB and cpu socket area will so drops in temps but depends on your room/case ambients.. i get MB temps between 27-36C load with 15-28+C night/day room temps.

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Originally Posted by Silver Fox

Starting to think my board is faulty. It has trouble booting after a forced shutdown. My Sata drive didn't get recognized just now, it's just acting really weird. If it fails consistently, I wouldn't be as confused, but why is it able to do Orthos for 4+ hours, then as I Shut Down from windows, it just hangs there, eventually being forced to turn it off from the PSU. Really weird. Time to RMA me thinks.

Edit: Board won't even POST anymore. Great...

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with sata disks disappearing also check the PCI-E frequency that is set is 100 on reboot/exit from bios

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Originally Posted by MnM

Hmm dont know what bios I am using - it doesnt display aything!!
Yeah I red about the CPU. Tried an X6800 same result.
DO those boards make any sound at all? Like beeps and such? I dont even get a beep out of it.

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no beeps i can hear of...

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

EVA! a little feedback on the Abit IP35 Pro.

the only difference was higher FSB (495) for my Q6600 and higher memory bandwidth:

still about the same performance as the QuadGT which was limited to 410 FSB...except...the memory bandwidth.

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not bad at all how's everest bandwidth look ?

Alastor2262, thanks for info on your yellow vs black dimm slots :)

Are there any workarounds to the onboard crackling problem? In some games, such as Serious Sam 2, I get godawful crackling and would really like to find a way to fix that.

This is my first 500FSB.

Attachment 60576

CPU: 1.35V
NB: 1.55V
SB: 1.20V
Memory: 2.35V
All set in BIOS.

nice.. using my E6700 i can confirm strap change stil at 500FSB.. so 499FSB much faster bandwidth ;)

2GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500
Asus P5K Deluxe (black dimm slots)

Yes yet another kit of 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 at 2.2v rated modules :D But this time in the black memory dimm slots which have been confirmed to overclock memory much better than yellow dimm slots. Look at these tight sub timings at 3-30-3-3-3 :)

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...cial8500_4.jpg

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...cial8500_1.jpg

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...cial8500_3.jpg

System

• Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 L629B079 B2
• Corsair Nautilus 500 3/8" ID
• Asus P5K Deluxe 0311 bios
• 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
• 2x1GB Crucial PC2-8500 Ballistix dual channel kit in black dimm slots
• 74GB WD Raptor 8MB on SATA 2 port
• Pioneer DVR-08 Burner
• Sony FDD
• 1KW PCP&C SLI psu
• WinXP Pro SP2

2GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 @626Mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.20v

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JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 376
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1253
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 3
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: N/A
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.45v
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.20
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: 1.20

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

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http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K..._validated.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m55s875ms.png

2GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 @640Mhz 5-5-5-15 at 2.35v

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JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 384
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1280
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
RAS# Precharge: 5
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
TWR: 3
TRFC: 30
TWTR: 3
TRRD: 3
TRTP: 3
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO

Transaction Booster: AUTO
Boost Level: N/A
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.4875v
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.35
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: 1.20

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Disabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

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http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K..._validated.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m38s344ms.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K..._bandwidth.png

Thanks to Crucial PC2-8500 Ballistix's ability to hit 640+ mhz 5-5-5-9 3-30-3-3-3 at just 2.35v, I've managed to beat my personal best <3600Mhz Super Pi 32M time by ~4 seconds :D

1 second behind best 32M time at <3600Mhz.

Straight boot from bios @7x510FSB 4:5 637Mhz 5-5-5-9 3-30-3-3-3 at 2.35v

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m09s406ms.png

New PB for 32M at <3600Mhz.

Straight boot from bios @7x510FSB 4:5 637Mhz 5-5-5-9 3-30-3-3-3 at 2.35v
- Setfsb bumped to 7x513FSB 4:5 641Mhz 5-5-5-9 3-30-3-3-3 at 2.35v

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K..._validated.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m04s641ms.png

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K..._bandwidth.png

Next setfsb step from 513.9FSB is 514.7FSB so just overshot the 3600mhz mark for this run.

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...3m03s125ms.png

Thanks for all those test shots EVA, they are very helpfull to see the differences in settings. I wonder when the beta bios 403 will be out?

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Thanks for all those test shots EVA, they are very helpfull to see the differences in settings. I wonder when the beta bios 403 will be out?

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Hopefully soon.

Has anyone noticed that with the 0311 BIOS this board doesn't seem to set Write to Precharge or tWTR correctly when manually specifying memory timings? In my case full AUTO timings result in:

Write to Precharge = 14
tWTR = 11

When timings set to MANUAL in BIOS and tWTR set to 11, (no option to set Write to Pre) I get the following:

Write to Precharge = 22
tWTR = 19

I was using these BIOS voltages:

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CPU Voltage: 1.350v
CPU Voltage Reference: x0.63
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50v
DRAM Voltage: 2.30v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40v
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55v
North Bridge Voltage Reference: Auto
South Bridge Voltage: 1.20v

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And these settings:

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• 2.30v = x7 499FSB DDR2-998 5-4-4-9 2-25-2-2-2 = Failed on Test #6 pass 5 & 8

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This would have passed the usual Memtest86+ v1.70 2 full passes + 10 loops of Test #5 but I went to bed leaving it running the full tests. When I got back it had run over 20 passes with the above 2 failures. Being not sure what to adjust I made the following changes.

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• 2.35v = x7 499FSB DDR2-998 5-4-4-9 2-25-2-2-3 = Passed the 2 full passes + 10 loops of Test #5

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The question is what should I have done?

Also is there a link to what would be the most likely cause of each failure?

When I used cpu voltage damper and ref .63 with high cpu voltage, I got a stop at postw ith some sort of cpu error. I left re on auto and damper disabled. Maybe it was because I'm on phase and have to set core at 1.65 to get 1.6 actual. Anyway, I'm not entirely sure which one of those items or both that threw the error.

Is anyone getting goofy CPU Temp readings with ASUS probe and Speedfan?

I was just up and testing at 3.2ghz and core temp is reading 47 on both cores and speed fan and PC probe were both around 52c, then the alarm goes off and PC probe and speed fan say 85c! But core temp .94 was still reading 47c

After a reboot is seems fine, very strange

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Is anyone getting goofy CPU Temp readings with ASUS probe and Speedfan?

I was just up and testing at 3.2ghz and core temp is reading 47 on both cores and speed fan and PC probe were both around 52c, then the alarm goes off and PC probe and speed fan say 85c! But core temp .94 was still reading 47c

After a reboot is seems fine, very strange

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Yes, I got same thing.

Thanks for the quick reply I appreciate it. I was trusting on what coretemp says more than anything.

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Yes, I got same thing.

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not bad at all how's everest bandwidth look ?

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here is everest on the IP35 at 500 FSB and memory at 500 Mhz with 5-7-7-2-30.

EDIT:..this everest was using my Teamgroup ddr2-1000...the 1st sandra showing 85xx bench score was using Corsair DDR2-1142 stuff...unfortunately for me, one stick bailed out on me yesterday evening:(...the team group sticks are not as fast as the corsair stuff...the team group scores in sandra memory bench about 200 points lower, at the same clock speed, than the Corsair stuff...could be the EPP, or does that only apply to the Nvidia chipset?

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Originally Posted by Eagleclaw

Is anyone getting goofy CPU Temp readings with ASUS probe and Speedfan?

I was just up and testing at 3.2ghz and core temp is reading 47 on both cores and speed fan and PC probe were both around 52c, then the alarm goes off and PC probe and speed fan say 85c! But core temp .94 was still reading 47c

After a reboot is seems fine, very strange

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seems that it happens to me when i disabled CPU configuration > PECI settings.

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Originally Posted by xgman

Thanks for all those test shots EVA, they are very helpfull to see the differences in settings. I wonder when the beta bios 403 will be out?

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yeah i'm looking forward to the new bios to squeeze out every ounce of bandwidth / performance i can muster :D

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Originally Posted by Truckchase!

Has anyone noticed that with the 0311 BIOS this board doesn't seem to set Write to Precharge or tWTR correctly when manually specifying memory timings? In my case full AUTO timings result in:

Write to Precharge = 14
tWTR = 11

When timings set to MANUAL in BIOS and tWTR set to 11, (no option to set Write to Pre) I get the following:

Write to Precharge = 22
tWTR = 19

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how you comparing it ? to memset 3.3 beta ? i don't think memset 3.3 beta is reading them correctly sometimes.. what does everest bandwidth/pi or memory intensive benchmarks say when you compare manually set via AUTO for those 2 configs ?

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Originally Posted by msgclb

I was using these BIOS voltages:


And these settings:

This would have passed the usual Memtest86+ v1.70 2 full passes + 10 loops of Test #5 but I went to bed leaving it running the full tests. When I got back it had run over 20 passes with the above 2 failures. Being not sure what to adjust I made the following changes.


The question is what should I have done?

Also is there a link to what would be the most likely cause of each failure?

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that short procedue test i did isn't no way extensive enough to show memory stability IN memtest just a quick test... usage guide at http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=6 for DDR1 still applies to DDR2 :)

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Originally Posted by xgman

When I used cpu voltage damper and ref .63 with high cpu voltage, I got a stop at postw ith some sort of cpu error. I left re on auto and damper disabled. Maybe it was because I'm on phase and have to set core at 1.65 to get 1.6 actual. Anyway, I'm not entirely sure which one of those items or both that threw the error.

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you hit the cpu overvoltage error which occurs at vcore > 1.60v with damper enabled you're probably >1.60v vcore with damper disabled you probably <1.60v. Have you tried setting vcore in monitoring to Ignored

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

here is everest on the IP35 at 500 FSB and memory at 500 Mhz with 5-7-7-2-30.

EDIT:..this everest was using my Teamgroup ddr2-1000...the 1st sandra showing 85xx bench score was using Corsair DDR2-1142 stuff...unfortunately for me, one stick bailed out on me yesterday evening:(...the team group sticks are not as fast as the corsair stuff...the team group scores in sandra memory bench about 200 points lower, at the same clock speed, than the Corsair stuff...could be the EPP, or does that only apply to the Nvidia chipset?

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maybe slower due to 5-7-7-2-30 timings ??

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Originally Posted by Alastor2262

seems that it happens to me when i disabled CPU configuration > PECI settings.

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yeah for some core2 cpus which support PECI (not all do), when enabled asus pc probe2/ai suite and bios reported cpu temps might be ~10C lower than what it would be if PECI is disabled or not supported by a core2 cpu.

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

here is everest on the IP35 at 500 FSB and memory at 500 Mhz with 5-7-7-2-30.

EDIT:..this everest was using my Teamgroup ddr2-1000...the 1st sandra showing 85xx bench score was using Corsair DDR2-1142 stuff...unfortunately for me, one stick bailed out on me yesterday evening...the team group sticks are not as fast as the corsair stuff...the team group scores in sandra memory bench about 200 points lower, at the same clock speed, than the Corsair stuff...could be the EPP, or does that only apply to the Nvidia chipset?

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maybe slower due to 5-7-7-2-30 timings ??

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i checked with the same memory settings and as you can see, it is falling short by 200 points...hmmmm...i guess corsair is better, at least with their DDR2-1142 stuff.

bottom sandra memory bench is the corsair DDR2-1142 at 495 memory speed and 5-5-5-18-42.

sub timings used ? AUTO or manually set ? AUTO could be different for the different memories due to SPD programming

i manually set them in the bios...but...doesn't cpuz and memset report them accurately?

This could be the best that I'll get with my E6600 and OCZ PC2-9200 Flex XLC memory. I'll see if it will stand up to some stress tomorrow.

Attachment 60619

CPU Voltage: 1.45v
CPU Voltage Reference: Auto
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50v
DRAM Voltage: 2.30v
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.30v
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55v
North Bridge Voltage Reference: Auto
South Bridge Voltage: 1.20v

• 435FSB 1044DDR 5:6 4-4-4-12 3-30-3-3-6 passed Memtest86+ v1.70 2 full loops + 10 loops of Test #5 but Windows crashed while loading.

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how you comparing it ? to memset 3.3 beta ? i don't think memset 3.3 beta is reading them correctly sometimes.. what does everest bandwidth/pi or memory intensive benchmarks say when you compare manually set via AUTO for those 2 configs ?

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Good find. I think you may be right.... I can see no appreciable difference setting those timings using memset and testing using everest. (in both latency and bandwidth)

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Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

i manually set them in the bios...but...doesn't cpuz and memset report them accurately?

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Originally Posted by Truckchase!

Good find. I think you may be right.... I can see no appreciable difference setting those timings using memset and testing using everest. (in both latency and bandwidth)

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heh quoting Truckchase! answers Ace-a-Rue's query :D

E6700 @6x499FSB vs 6x500FSB
Strap change tests

http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/mem...cial8500_3.jpg

Further strap tests @499FSB vs @500FSB, but this time I'm using E6700 L629B079 B2 retail cpu and dropped cpu multiplier down to 6x so it would be easier for folks to compare with their own tests. I'm running 2x1 GB Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 @500Mhz 4-4-4-5 2-25-2-2-5 at 2.15v for all tests.

I'm testing 4 configurations:

• 6x499FSB 1:1 boot
• 6x499FSB 1:1 boot setFSB 500FSB
• 6x500FSB 1:1 boot
• 6x500FSB 1:1 boot with Transaction Booster Enabled Level 1

Benchmarks used:

• Everest Ultimate v4.00.1033 beta
• Super Pi v1.50 2M & 8M
• Winrar v3.70 Benchmark
• PCmark05 Memory Test

System

• Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 L629B079 B2
• Corsair Nautilus 500 3/8" ID
• Asus P5K Deluxe 0311 bios
• 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
• 2x1GB Crucial PC2-8500 Ballistix dual channel kit in black dimm slots
• 74GB WD Raptor 8MB on SATA 2 port
• Pioneer DVR-08 Burner
• Sony FDD
• 1KW PCP&C SLI psu
• WinXP Pro SP2

6x499FSB vs 6x500FSB

To save everyone from scrolling wheel mouse cramps, here's all the results in one bar chart :D

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K...x500FSB_tn.png

Settings Used:

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JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclocking: Manual
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 6
FSB Frequency: 499 or 500
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-998 or DDR2-1000
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency: 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4
RAS# Precharge: 4
RAS# Activate to Precharge: 5
TWR: 2
TRFC: 25
TWTR: 2
TRRD: 2
TRTP: 5
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO

Transaction Booster: AUTO or Enabled
Boost Level: N/A or Level 1
Clock Over-Charging Mode: AUTO

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

CPU Voltage: 1.325v
CPU Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU Voltage Damper: Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50
DRAM Voltage: 2.15
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.40
North Bridge Voltage: 1.55
North Bridge Voltage Reference: AUTO
South Bridge Voltage: 1.20

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Control: Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting: 6
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
PECI: Enabled

USB Configuration
USB Functions: Enabled
Legacy USB Support: Disabled (need to enable it to detect USB flash drives)

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Originally Posted by eva2000

To save everyone from scrolling wheel mouse cramps, here's all the results in one bar chart :D

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I like those scrolling wheel mouse cramps!:D Besides I need the exercise.:hehe:

Does playing with the memory sub-timings give any real performance gain?

did someone notice that C2D needs more volts at same frequency on P35 boards?
for me :
Xeon 3060 L631B115 at 3.6 (1.33 vcore) on P5B deluxe and P5W64 WS pro,
the same one needs 1.38 to be rock solid on the P5K....rofl!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Speederlander

Does playing with the memory sub-timings give any real performance gain?

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From my point of view I'd say not by much but it probably depends on your choice of memory, cpu & motherboard. I'd bet that eva2000 can give the definitive answer.

To satisfy my curiosity to the this question I performed a few tests and came up with more questions than answers. I started by using the following BIOS options to find out what the BIOS sets when Auto is used.

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AI Overclocking: Auto
CPU Ratio Control: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1067
DRAM Command Rate: 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Auto

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The first set of timings below are what I deciphered from MemSet 3.3beta for the Auto options. I couldn't figure out what TWR was so I used 6. Are these the timings that the BIOS actually uses with these Auto option?

The next set of timings are what I set to obtain my default performance. Notice that MemSet 3.3beta shows 19 for TWTR with I set 11.

The third set of timings are what I set for my tighter sub-timings. This time MemSet 3.3beta shows 10 for TWTR although I set 2.

So why the discrepancies and any idea why TWR wasn't included in MemSet 3.3beta?

------ 5-5-5-18 (6)-42-11-3-3 ------| ----- 5-5-5-18 6-42-11-3-3 ----- | ----- 5-5-5-9 2-25-2-2 -----
Attachment 60656

My default Everest and SuperPI benchmark results.
Attachment 60657

My Everst and SuperPI benchmark results with tighter timings.
Attachment 60658

• Benchmarks --------- Default --- Tighter Sub-Timings
• ---------------------------------------------------
• Everst Read: ------- 7035 MB/s --- 7060 MB/s
• Everest Write: ----- 4893 MB/s --- 4893 MB/s
• Everest Copy: ----- 5498 MB/s --- 5574 MB/s
• Everest Latency: ----- 74.0 ns ------ 73.6 ns
• SuperPI 32M: --- 20m 30.265s -- 20m 16.406s

So, would I obtain better results if I had a Q6600 or faster CPU?

Is there any solution to the crackling problem yet, besides buying a stand alone sound card? It seems to happen when the PC is stressed when overclocked.

I need to know how many cm is betwen NB holes?

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Originally Posted by rastaseb

did someone notice that C2D needs more volts at same frequency on P35 boards?
for me :
Xeon 3060 L631B115 at 3.6 (1.33 vcore) on P5B deluxe and P5W64 WS pro,
the same one needs 1.38 to be rock solid on the P5K....rofl!!!!!

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Not here; 1.35 volts for E6600 on the Giga or the P5K.

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Originally Posted by CedricFP

Is there any solution to the crackling problem yet, besides buying a stand alone sound card? It seems to happen when the PC is stressed when overclocked.

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I uninstalled Asus audio drivers, and am using Vista x64 HD audio drivers; sournds great.

But, really never had crackling on Asus drivers though.

You could try the native Vista or XP(/) audio drivers.

M

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Originally Posted by dekruyter

I uninstalled Asus audio drivers, and am using Vista x64 HD audio drivers; sournds great.

But, really never had crackling on Asus drivers though.

You could try the native Vista or XP(/) audio drivers.

M

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Might try that, but I'm not sure if there are native XP drivers for the onboard.