Those 2 fields aren't list boxes with fixed values. you have to press enter on the field, then use the "-" and "+" keys to change them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mnemonik23
Those 2 fields aren't list boxes with fixed values. you have to press enter on the field, then use the "-" and "+" keys to change them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mnemonik23
of course I have to press enter - but it doesn't work :confused: nothing happens...Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
EDIT: Guess what? my Enter button stopped responding :D the other Enter button works fine
3.89 around 1.4v? I am jealous, hold onto that CPU. Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by C Stat B
470FSB at 1066 strap is mighty IMPRESSIVE for this board. what rev are you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ph03n1x
-edit-
I seem to have figured out my 400FSB and 1066 strap problem. as my memory was fine at 500MHz 4-4-4-4 @2,2V on the 1333 strap, then now on the 1066 strap it is able to do 500MHz CL5 @ 2,3V. the tighter the chipset is running the more unstable the memory gets.
so after relaxing the memory- 400FSB at 1066 strap seems to be no problem.
;) it seems I have a good boardQuote:
Originally Posted by heikis
Mine is also rev 504, and FSB 470 was reached with BIOS rev 2333...today i'll replace stock cooling with sonic tower and hr-05...
i'll submit results later...
try bios 2395 also :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ph03n1x
how to fit hr05 on this board? i cant see any hole around the chipset area
i just flashed bios to 2395, and mounted sonic and hr05...i'll submit results this afternoonQuote:
Originally Posted by heikis
with this:Quote:
Originally Posted by irenic
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4...2804ub9.th.jpg
I had to slightly modify hr05, and now it fits perfectly.
It doesn't swing at all
Just got my board yesterday. (1) eVGA 8800 GTX, (1) wd150 raptor, e6600, 2x1GB 677 3-3-3-8 teamgroup, tuniq tower 120, 600w OCZ gxs ; x-fi, and a few more hard drives will be attached once I'm done configuring it.
Smooth overall, POST on first attempt.
The teamgroup (D9GMH non fatbody) ram, I must say, is not living up to its end. At 2.2 volts it won't post at the labeled 667 3-3-3-8 settings, nor will it post with 4-4-4-10 @ 800MHz as it is supposed to be able to. At 2.2v (max officially supported) the things near give me a 2nd degree burn, and I think I'm gonna need a northbridge cooler replacement if I want to keep OCing these. And they don't even come with heatsinks :slapass:
3.3ghz at 1.425v, idle 30, orthos 55 after an hour. Not too bad for a first time overclocker :D Simply couldn't be easier to OC in the bios.
All well and good, BUT
I do have a serious problem with the onboard ethernet (Intel PRO/1000 PL).
The thing half works. I can connect to the net directly and via my router, and it works for a few moments, then hangs and gives timeouts on everything. A separate PCI NIC plopt into the same motherboard works flawlessly.
UPDATE: I updated the bios, disabled the onboard 1394, and toggle enabled/disabled the "Onboard LAN" in BIOS, and it seems to have fixed the issue.
When I first got my board I couldnt find any info in the manual or on the net about which RAID to use. For some reason I chose the Marvell RAID and now I keep reading in this thread that the Intel is better, faster, etc. If I switch to the black SATA's will I have to completely reinstall my OS or will I be able to just load the Intel RAID drivers and be good to go?
Where are you booting from currently?Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic646
I'm not sure if an array created by the Marvell controller will be read by the Intel controller.
If you give me a few hours I could probably test it for you.
For memory speed are you going by the settings in the bios or are you looking at the actual speed reported by cpuz, idcc, etc? If you're going by the bios then you're not looking at actuals if you're fsb speed is something other than 266.Quote:
Originally Posted by uberwurst
To get your actual speed, the formula is...
(Reference Frequency / (Memory frequency / 2)) / FSB Frequency
For Example:
If your Reference Frequency is 266 (the default) and your Memory Frequency is 667, then you have a 4/5 ratio which means that at a 333 FSB, your memory is actually running at 417.5 MHz or DDR2-835.
You have to adjust your expectations accordingly.
Im booting from the Marvell RAID array. I have two 74G Raptors set up on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
OK, let me try it.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic646
Thanks. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Oops, RAID 0 or RAID 1?Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic646
Raid 0
Cool. In work.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic646
Moving from 2333 to 2395 lost my raid 0 array :(, reinstalled and on first boot to XP it corrupted :(
Testing with a single drive here now to see if 2395 is better than 2333 for 200REF overclocking.
I have this RAM - http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820145590 and I cant seem to get my e6600 stable at 3.6. My timings are 5-5-5-12. My v-core is 1.5, anything higher and it gets too hot. I know nothing about RAM timings, but is there anything I can change that may help? One thing I have noticed about this board is almost everytime I change one of the memory settings the BIOS locks up on me.
Bad news. The Intel controller won't recognize an array made by the Marvell controller. You're out of luck I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
What are the rest of your memory settings? ref frequency, memory frequency, voltage?Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic646
So far so good. Currently at 377.9 FSB x9, Vcore @1.4v (BIOS says 1.34v, Core temp 1.325 Speedfan 1.34, don't have a multi-meter... don't know how to use one), Vfsb 1.3, vmch 1.550.
ATM. am using Corsair TWIN2x2048-6400 (my 6400c4 sticks are on RMA) @ 944Mhz, mem ref:333, mem freq: 667(4:5) 5.5.5.15 vdimm: 2.08
http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ent=temps3.gif
Before proceeding any further I'd like to understand memory timings. Now, I've googled memory timing guides but they're all old. Ok, that's a lame excuse.
Honestly, I'm not just getting it or maybe I'm not reading the right guides. Can someone please point me in the right direction to a guide that's easy to understand from a n00b's POV, or if someone
would be nice enough to take the time to explain things like they would to let's say a 9 yr old?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA.
I dont think you have to understand the use of every timing. There is way more then 4 timing that we use to see on ram sticks. Just open memset and you will see what im talking about.
The main thing you have to know is that lower timings means lower latency = better performance. But lower latency means higher voltage/better ICs (D9GMH, G9GHX...) if your ram is rated 5-5-5-15 ddr800 at 2.0 you can try to raise voltage and lower timings like 4-5-4-12 ... Its pretty much try and error, do some bench and you will see what timing is the best. It depends on other things like memory strap ans such things.
Ref - 266Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Freq. - 533
1/1
Voltage - 1.88
Oh well looks like I'm sticking with Marvell.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Just tested 200REF 330fsb 533mode against the AW9Dmax and this badaxe2 will run the config with a LOT less voltage than the ABIT needs.
Performance was identical with the exception here my board will run this setup with near default voltages and the ABIT needed 2V on the MCH :eek:
Badaxe2 is pretty damn slick ;)
great news Tony :D
So if you're trying to do 3.6 on an e6600 then you've got the fsb set to 400. So the memory should be running at its rated speed then, cool. I had to raise the fsb and mch voltages. Try 1.4 and 1.6 volts respectively. You shouldn't need that much but see if its stable there, then back them down again.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic646
Well I would like to try your suggestion but now something is really screwed up. I ran Orthos stable for 2 hours @ 3.4. Now everytime I start it my computer reboots. The only thing Ive done between the 2 hour perfectly stable stress test and now is install speedfan. So I uninstalled it but my pc still reboots when I start orthos. I set everything in BIOS back to default and orthos runs fine again. Did I damage something?Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
You know that's REALLY weird? This just happened to me today as well. I'm giving up on Orthos. I have no idea what it does and it hasn't been worked on in years. On one of the CDs that came with the MB, there's a copy of Passmark's Burn In Test. I've been using that for years and it works great.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic646
There's no real point to speed fan right now. Unless Alfredo fixed it in the past week, it doesn't support the aSC7621 chip monitor chip.
Yeah I realized speedfan didnt work with this board right away when it told me my temps were all 5C...I wish :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
As far as the passmark test, the one I have is just Stress Test 1.0. It came bundled with IDU. I have to pay to upgrade to Burnin Test Pro. Is the free one good?
Stress Test 1.0 is actually pretty good. Just do the CPU and RAM tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic646
As I mentioned before BIOS sets my G.Skill PC2-8000 HZ 4-4-4-5 by default to 5-5-5-4
No matter what I change I get that bad OC (or something) message and BIOS automatically resets my ram to 5-5-5-4 all the time except when it's at 266 / 533 :confused:
any idea?
Help please? Did anybody had similar problem with RAM on BX2?Quote:
Originally Posted by mnemonik23
I'm thinking to replace it with something else, but with what?
have you called G.Skill?
no, I guess they are closed now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
EDIT: update. Switched back to 2333 bios and looks like it holds my 4-4-4-5 now.
But changing C1E to Disable causing severe unstability.
Running orthos at 370 fsb and ram at 461 so far stable... but not what I want yet :(
266 ref + 400FSB and memory at 500MHz (4:5) divider makes my board unstable. is that normal? im on 2395 bios
1:1 divider at 400FSb and 266 ref seems to be ok
2395 sucks. After I updated, it rebooted then gave me the "No Memory" beep code. I had to take out one stick, move the jumper to configure mode, and change all of my settings to default (no overclock). I havent tried yet but I have a bad feeling its not going to let me OC using my same settings as before the update.
agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic646
i can't pass FSB 400 with 2395, and with 2333 i can run FSB 470 no problems...
I flashed 2333 back..
Ok I was able to use my same settings and keep it stable during a 15 minute stress test. I then shut the test down and thought everything was fine. After about three minutes of doing nothing I got a blue screen of death. I think with 2395, Intel went back to their "anti-overclocking" attitude and implemented something else they didnt mention in the changes log. :slapass:
Is there any way to get the older bios's??? The Intel site just lists the latest one.. Or is there any way somone could post em here???
(edit) Opps, my bad, found em on the Intel previously released download site......
This isn't due to an anti overclocking stance, from what I understand, these are tweaks done to the 1066 strap (266 ref freq) to make it perform better at sub-400FSB. You should be able to reach above 400 if you move to the 1333 strap (333 ref freq).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ph03n1x
This board is being tweaked by Intel to provide the fastest platform for their high multiplier CPU's first and foremost. It is an extreme edition board.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
May be I should have waited and bought E6700...
2395 is NO GO with my G.Skill.
2333 works fine but I'm stuck for now @ 3.4GHz
Guys if you do use the 2395 BIOS watch your memory freq. I was playing around with various FSBs and more than a few times it changed my freq to 800 when I manipulated my FSB. 800 is my memory's default. Naturally, that would cause me to fail my OC.
Heya, may I add some of my results?
I have been doing some messing around with BX2 at work those past few days and it's looking pretty decent, I must say... Obviously, it's not the best match for E6300 (sorry, I was a bit lazy and did not change CPUs, but I will switch to X6800 later) but it's a cool mobo to fool around with :)
About MAX FSB/Memory could do so far. Memory timmings still at default and on 2333 BIOS...
STRAP 1067
346FSB, DDR2-1040 12-4-4-4.0 (800MHz ratio), 1.45vfsb, 1.65vmch - dual32M
400FSB, DDR2-1000 8-4-4-4.0 (800MHz ratio), 1.45vfsb, 1.65vmch- dual32M
435FSB, DDR2-870 8-4-4-4.0 (533MHz ratio), 1.50vfsb, 1.65vmch - dual32M
435FSB, DDR2-870 8-4-4-4.0 (533MHz ratio), 1.50vfsb, 1.65vmch - ORTHOS
STRAP 1333
453FSB, DDR2-876 8-4-4-4.0 (533MHz ratio), 1.50vfsb, 1.70vmch - dual32M
Just a small note - don't mind a disrepancy in dual32M times at 435FSB (1067) and 453FSB (1333). I noticed that lowering vnb to 1.40v (instead of 1.50v) fixed it, but I forgot to transfer those new screenshots and don't have them handy at this moment.
I plan to check out 800 strap at 346FSB and see how that fares as well...
:toast:
Hey.... Tony
seeing that you are testing alot of these C2D mobos..what is your preference for stable, good overclocker with fsb 400-450....my preference is a board that is stable, and requires as little voltage to NB and cpu(I realize all cpus requirements on OC are different but there is no doubt some mobo need more vcore for the same OCed speed) to be stable
TIA Neal
after you fixed the voltage, how much did it drop your times? Did it still scale with clock speed or was 435 still faster then 453?Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
How do I set the 1333mhz strap in the bios? Never mind I found out how to do it. I get lower memory performance with the 1333mhz strap.
What should stock cpu volts be for quad 6700 ?? My BX2 board auto sets it to max 1.35V :confused:
Also in device mgr I have an unfound PCI device from fresh install, I use on board sound so no sound card involved, and I have no pci device??
I thought I may share my results/issues with this board after a bit of testing.
For CPU stability, this motherboard is the best I've tested so far. (see sig)
Previously, my best Orthos results achieved were on the P5B deluxe @ 3820Mhz.
On the Bax Axe 2, Orthos is stable @ 3840Mhz :woot:
http://i10.tinypic.com/4c0iu5g.jpg
As for Ram stability, the results achieved were nearly the same as on my P5B Deluxe.
Results aside, I ran into a problem running with my 8800GTX.
My 3dMark and Aquamark scores are very low compared to similar setups as mine. They seem to be in the range of an 8800GTS :confused:
Here is a thread I started about this issue:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=128365
Any help is appreciated :toast:
reference frequency in the memory settings screen. And yes, performance will be lower because it uses relaxed internal chipset timings. the plus side is by relaxing the timings you end up with a better high end in the FSB speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by badboy
I see your load temp is 83C. A few folks were saying that mine 6600 @ 72C load is too hot but I guess it is not that hot :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_fx
I'm gonna buy some good digital thermometer for my projects anyway so will try to measure the die temp.
haha 3.84 83C :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_fx
how hot is the T120 to the touch ?
btw, your pm box is full ;)
PM box is now empty :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Supertim0r
The TT120 isn't very hot, it only gets warm, even after 6 hours of Orthos.
I would be careful with those temps, whats your v-core???
You should check your contact.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick_fx
Contact isn't an issue, my CPU and Tuniq Tower 120 are lapped and have excellent contact. The point is that the temp sensors aren't right ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Why are there so many people preoccupied with "safe temps"?Quote:
Originally Posted by chaotic646
If I limited myself to say 70C as a "safe temp", I would never have been able to overclock my CPU this much. As long as the CPU doesn't throttle (tjunction =85C in coretemp), I don't see the need to be "careful". ;)
Vcore is set at 1.5375V in bios, which is 1.47V under load in "Intel Desktop Utilities". :)
can't wait to see what it will do under SS ;)
I thought coretemp was using on die sensor that were the most reliable way to monitor your cpu temps. I limmit myself to the 70c barrier, i would like to know that i can go higher than that :PQuote:
Originally Posted by rick_fx
i'll try 2395 again then. with 1333 strap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
we will see if 1333 performs better...
[fidget]
crap, I havn't been able to mess with my computer in 2 weeks due to having no unused video cards wandering about. Had a power supply fry a 7800GTX. My 8800GTX was sposed to get here last Friday but UPS somehow lost my apartment #. Then the driver didn't get back to the depot till after they closed so I couldn't pick it up and now it wont get delivered till tomorrow. Add on top of that the fact I now have the option of getting a QX6700 for $495.
[/fidget]
Any memory experts about?
I have one odd issue with this board. When I select a memory freq of 800 and boot into windows memset detects one stick set @ tRD 6 and the other @ tRD 7. I can change the one stick @7 stick down to 6 without issue. All other values match and this is the only time this happens. tRD isn't different @ 533 or 667. I've checked both sticks with CPU-Z and they have the same part number. They will pass any test I care to throw at them.
Are you sure that the sticks' SPD matches exactly? Perhaps the manufacturer changed the TRD value in SPD and now the board sets TRD according to the SPD value or something like that. Or did you set it to "6" in BIOS and it doesn't correctly set it for the one stick?Quote:
Originally Posted by malficar
They are matched according to CPU-Z and the stickers on them. There is no tRD setting in the BX2 BIOS. I am viewing the settings with memset after I boot and changing them then. I am thinking it's the board because I didn't have this happen with the same sticks on other motherboards.Quote:
Originally Posted by celemine1Gig
I am going to experiment with switching slots and using one stick @ a time and see what gets reported.
EDIT: It's definitely the mobo, or memset is reading things wrong. I tried one stick at a time @ a 800 freq and they boot with the same tRD in that case.
found a video card, did a few quick runs at stock FSB to test out how the strap settings play with timings
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...traptests1.jpg
these are all with 2395 BIOS
memory timings from Memset
benches from sandra
From what I understand of how the chipset works, there are lots more timings on the northbridge then what memset is reporting, but this gives you a good idea of how Intel sets the memory timings based on the chipset strap. Also shows how the bandwidth and latency scale with the strap at default FSB speeds. I'll start putting together graphs of performance as it scales with FSB speed on each strap
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
Please explain:slap:
How did you get those ram speeds with 1:1 ratios?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
:rolleyes: employee purchase programQuote:
Originally Posted by palese
266 1:1 =>266*2 (double data rate) = ddr2-533Quote:
Originally Posted by gtj
Sorry, I thought you were reporting the raw speed. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
hey,
anyone tried the last IDU_3.0.10.15 ?
monitor all the fans now, stable, no crash :)
works for me! the previous versions didnt work.
But... when i click on hardware monitor the first time it worked fine but now it seems to crash the program.... i will try to find out why
has vdroop gotten any better on newer bios versions
any chance the lower multiplier will be unlocked???
you'll be able to change the multi in a future biosQuote:
Originally Posted by nealh
vdroop ? theres almost no vdroop :stick:
Anyone know when abouts a newer bios will be out? To hopefully add the lower multi but to fix any program usage glitches and not having to use the jumper on fixing a boot.
update: looks like the extended timings are also altered with divider changes. I'll put together a larger spreadsheet with those as well, but I'm taking care of a sick girlfriend now so I'm away from my desktop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
thanks..I thought there was still an issue with this...sorryQuote:
Originally Posted by Supertim0r
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supertim0r
It locks up on me @403fsb but works flawlessly below 400. All other apps works great though just the IDU.
Oh, something weird I noticed with my board. I'm supposed to disable EIST and CE1, right? But when I set my fsb to like 380 or more, it will not boot no matter how I raise my voltages. But when I enable both of them, it boots just fine. Is that how it's supposed to be or... :confused:
I just jumped ship; from Abit (check my sig) to Intel. Things look really good. I was one of the "doubters" but I picked up a Rev. 505 board a few days ago and things look very promising indeed, with a few exceptions of what works and what doesn't. Of course I had to learn the hard way with lock-ups by Everest and SANDRA, and I'm playing with the ITK tool now, very cool. This board is a gem and deserves a guide on this forum; with some stickies. I am tempted to start a new thread with a link to this one. What do you guys think? I'm sure knowledgeable members like Tony wouldn't mind contributing some tips and tricks to the thread? Cheers!
Yes a guide would be great..Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
how do you what revision you are getting....
where did you get yours
Thanks
I picked it up at the Micro Center at Troy/Madison Heights, Michigan. Full retail version with 3 years limited manufacturer's warranty for $219.00 :banana: I'm currently running latest bios 2395 with the components in my sig (minus mobo, of course) and I'm currently at 390x10, 4-4-4-8. And I needed less voltage than on the Abit (something Tony has noted a few pages back).Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
will the board not do 400fsb?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
damn nice price...no microcenter in Tampa:banana:
My multiplier isn't working even though I have an ES chip, weird. I think it's a bios thing. The board does 400 fsb, but it's not stable and I want to tread slowly, don't want to push it too hard - took many trips already to short the jumpers.Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
so 400fsb is not stable becasue of the mobo? ram? or cpu?
I thought this mobo would do 400fsb easily..I thought speeds over like 430fsb were an issue
this board will do 450 and up on the 1333 strap, he is most likely having problems due to the fact that a CPU gets slightly warm when running over 4.0GHz ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
Maybe the timmings in your ram.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Here, im @ 400fsb on 1066strap mem 1:1 4-4-4-10@2.15v
Duh...I am a moronQuote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
oh...I forgot he had a e6400
Microcenter has it online and with 2 day shipping it is less than $210
E6700, typos are fun:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
crap I get more stupid as the day progresses.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Blauhung
sorry
:D . My memory timings are indeed tight. Running at 4GHz isn't my priority right now. I'm on the 1066 strap with memory running at 960Mhz 4-4-4-8 @ 2.4 volts. I'm running DRAM:FSB ratio of 5:4.Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
Screenie:
damn...nice chip
I have been waiting for the RD600 but at $210..this looks to be the best option
I have an e6600 that supposedly will do 3600(not sure if orthos stable) on P5b @1.45v and 1.55v on P5w....
I have 10th anniv crucial and have been waiting for a mobo...
the badaxe 2 sure looks good now
Oh, YES please! Would love to see a tut on this board. Actually this site and thread is a treasure trove of info - just a matter of hunting them down. heh, everything I've learned so far from building a PC and OC'ing, I learned from XS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Would be nice to see a tut on mem timings too
It can't be ! Please someone tell me the multi works on ES CPU's on this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Supertim0r ,or anyone else can verify ?
It seems a few peeps are stuck at @ ~ 400 FSB even with the 1333 strap. Someone have any ideas why ? Board issues or user bios set-up issues ?
I'm finally seriously considering this board. Sick of holding out on motherboard purchase that take forever to make it to market like the DFI ICFX3200-T2R I have waited so long for .
Only the Extreme series core 2 and quads have unlocked multipliers, E6700 and below Engineering Samples are not working... yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanobot
it will unlock in a future bios
There is a new beta for Everest
http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestu...q1woiejh5m.zip
(if this is inappropriate to post I will remove)
I don't know if this fixes any of the reset issues which may be only on intel's side.
Post No 475:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Requesting a Good Review
First of all thanks to all the members on this thead for great work. I've been patiently following this thread for last one month and have already ordered BX2.
Can someone write a decent writeup/review/guide on BX2 as the only available review compares with Gigabyte 965P-DQ6. This would further help people looking for a stable board to hit 400-420 range on E6600/Xeon3060.
Just a thought!
we can work out a guide and change the thread title...including everything on the same thread