ahh, a quick look at wikiQuote:
Originally Posted by BWR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan
so taiwanese speaks chinese??
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ahh, a quick look at wikiQuote:
Originally Posted by BWR
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan
so taiwanese speaks chinese??
yeah i didn't explain it properly..........so here is a pretty pic just for you :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
i'm talking about DIRECT airflow with a fan covering RAM and NB........and then going out via one of the two 120mm exhaust fans :)
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3743/dsc03086ov4.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
dude that aint gunna cool your northbridge for :banana::banana::banana::banana:E and you know it... or maybe you think you do.
you have to have direct or near direct fan contact with a NB chipset to cool it.
i mean im not trying to stop you, you can find out yourself.
maybe yours stays cool but they didnt use copper for this northbridge heatsink, so..
anyways.. do what you want but if you aint gunna spend 5 bucks or less ofr a little fan then your cheaper then i am.,. and man im a cheap!
lol heheh ok each to his own........i'll do some testing and measure exact temps before and after........lol at suggesting it's about the money.hehQuote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
omg I get the same thing while gaming at 461fsbQuote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
it's like my mouse freezes for a second and then goes back to normal
by doing ctrl + f1 i thought u can assign IRQ via BIOS??
BTW, is it just me, or does easy tune crash your system? Mine crashes and reboots if i try to run it :stick:
Am on F3 BIOS now and am running some benchmarks.
No problem for me , easytune works well , waiting for yours 6300 results :)
I hope that you and BWR are kidding. I heard vicious rumours back in Australia that American's are ignoramus's but I would expect better from xtreme members.Quote:
Originally Posted by theteamaqua
Thank God for wikipedia's redeeming qualities!
ditto works great for me tooQuote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
http://members.optusnet.com.au/arcto...fsb-spi32m.JPG
Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
kitt easytune only installs and works properly if you install it with a non overclocked bios.
dont use easytune though its worse than AI Booster from Asus. which actually is good, but easy tune is poop.
Hmm, ive just come back from holiday and am quite uneasy about motherboard choices. I fancy trying a gigabyte, i was going to go for the 965P-DQ6 but im not totally convinced now.
I want to overclock quite far on water with an e6600 and i only need one graphics card. If i buy one now the price difference is minimal (id have to buy a new cooler for the ds3 northbridge anyway). So, assuming price makes no difference, would you go for the DS3, DS4 or DQ6?
Im assuming and hoping that new bioses will show leaps and bounds in all these boards.
What software do you use to monitor temps from windows?
And also, i can't prime at 420 x 6 :stick:
Did you guys change the MCH voltage at all, or leave it at stock? If i leave it at stock, the whole system crashes after ~15 secs of dual prime :stick:
No, if you scrolled down, you would find out that most of Taiwan speaks Taiwanese.Quote:
Originally Posted by theteamaqua
However, Taiwan's official language is Mandarin, which makes sense because people from Taiwan are really just Chinese people on an island.
This is all assuming that coolaler is from Taiwan of course.
eh damn. there's no divider option for my ram to make it stay @ 800 when i oc my e6300 above 400.. is that mean i stucked @ 400fsb?
anway my board is DS4. and proc is e6300 b2. :(
B2? Isnt that stepping 6... You know, the RETAIL stepping?Quote:
Originally Posted by irenic
yups mine is B2. anyway i dont remember the stepping on the processor coz too eager to run it :p: will check it on monday when i receive lga 775 clip for my wc.Quote:
Originally Posted by BWR
so is there any way i can still oc my proc to more than 400fsb while maintaining the ram speed = / < 800?
yes to take E6300, 6400 high u need good RAM, u cant go less than 1:1 fsb : dram ratio
owh, thx theteamaqua..
anyway, can u share ur setting for M.I.T page (after ctrl F1)? this is the 1st time i'm using intel in 3 years and the first time i'm using ddr2 and the 1st time i'm using gigabyte.
i tried seach at google but it's too new and it's hard to find one.
i wish i could know which voltage should i increase when to make my oc stable.
tq!~
what's the highest gone with an E6300 prime stable?
and whats a safe vCore on air? I can't pass prime at 450 x 7 w/1.32v :(
i think vcore , vmch (or GMCH in BIOS thats waht its called) maybe vcore to 1.4v, 1.5v , and vmch to +0.2v. i heard vFSB doesnt relaly help, also set PCI-E clock to 101 for soem reason
and for memory timing (the hidden stting after ctrl + f1 ) well dont set it too lower or it fails. just set to stock , when i leave this at auto, i get 5-7-7-23!!! this 8000UL can do 5-4-4-9 @ 1GHz wuth 2.2v... its memory controller is messed up for DDR2 PC8000 or above, but u can always set it ur self.
As for vdimm, i have tried to give my 8000UL 2.2v and DDR18 fails !!! wtf, it needs +0.4v or 2.2v vdimm (corsair 8000UL needs 2.2v to operate at 1000MHz according to Corsair website)
for pentium d 920 i need vcore 1.5875v and +0.2v mch or else it wont boot to achieve 4GHz. i tried vcore 1.5875 and vmch +0.v it wont boot a 4GHz
also have people experience failure to boot after u turn off the PSU???
i mean i can power on the PSU and computer with stok clock settings, and then overclock and reboot it works fine. No matter how many tiems i reboot can always boot with overclocked settings, but after shutting off PSU. It just wont boot when i tried to turn it on ....
the key is that i can reboot with no problem with overclocked settings, but after PSU is shut off , i cant turn on the computer with overclocked setting no matter how low i go
I think i need better cooling ;)
444 x 7 is fine with 1.29v
Stock cooling sux :(
http://pageperso.aol.fr/misteroadster/Prime6300.JPGQuote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
Still priming ... :D
I hope that my DS3 on monday arrive, then I will test my E6400 Step 5 :)
3.3 GHz w/1.4v?
ok then...i can do 3.1 GHz w/1.31v :)
I guess i was a bit too optimistic ;)
What cooling are you on mr roadster?
66*C is a bit hot no?
Easy tune doesnt work on my rig, so i have no idea what my temps are :p:
K.I.T.T. Have you tried flashing back to the original BIOS, then install EASY TUNE, then flashing back to your current BIOS, F3 I assume?Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
Kitt : Cmos and reinstall Easy tune at stock freq.
Easy tune Center is not Easy tune, be carefull ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by theteamaqua
thx for the tips. too bad my memories are weak. i had one value 2gb corsair ddr667 with micron chipset that can do over 800 but the other one with unknown chipset max around 700 only. So sad coz at first i got a pair of ram with micron chipset which can do 800 @ stock vdimm but suddenly one of the ram died. Send for replacement and get the normal chipset :(
now i'm running my e6300 @ 2.45ghz, 350x7 ram @ 700 5-5-5-10 :P and everything at stock voltage. while this speed is better than my opty 170 @ 2.8ghz (my daily use speed) but it just a waste seing 3ghz chip running at less than 2.5ghz :nono:
in the driver CD, it only has "Easy tune Centre" option :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
no, easy tune only, not center :D
eh, issit all intel mobos dont have ram divider option to allow we running ram at lower frequency than the processor? like in AMD64? or it's just this gigabyte board?
All of them i think. Even on my P5W DH, the lowest it DDR2 533.
i use Gigabyte Rocket cooler 2 :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
66° is not so hot, if it's stable, it's ok :)
is the cooler really hot ? It's probably not accruate
Yes cooler is hot, even at stock voltages :)
Ambiant air too , about 35°
toujours la canicule a Paris ?Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
with normal temp (20-25) it could possibly do over 3.4ghz :)
Oui on crève !!
Surely, i will probably test some cold on it soon...
Now all I need is a Conroe (and some better cable management probably haha). :party:
http://www.damontech.net/system.jpg
aldamon wtf is that big black thing in the bottom of your case over the pci slots ?
hey KITT you can do 3.3 on air with defualt vcore. so dont worry about it. 3.3 isnt an issue for vcore.
i can do 3.6 w/ 1.28 or slightly less.
vdroop on these boards is very small also which is nice.
It's a Sytrin KuFormula VF1 Plus:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835150072
It's not blocking any of my PCI slots on this mobo, only PCI-E 1X slots. The angle of the photo is bad.
http://www.damontech.net/vf1pci.jpg
Quote:
Originally Posted by aldamon
That Cooler is hugeee!:toast:
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggIma...150-072-04.jpg
holy crap wtf is that thing!!
can you compare it to like the NVSilencer ? or is it better ?
Turbine fans typically are very loud.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
I believe that is called a squirrel cage fan, such as used in a furncace.
squirrel cage turbine tomatOes tomAtoes
What type of fan (make/model) could I mount on the northbridge heatsink on this gigabyte board?
461 fsb so far for meQuote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
not sure how how 5400UL will scale at 4-4-4-12 so I stopped at 461fsb primed overnight
still on stock volts
Have you guys had any issues with Northbridge temperatures? I am worried about this issue if I buy this mobo.
haven't had any problems so far. been running about a week with a celeron and 2 days with a E6300 step 5Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottFern
no just get yourself a little 40 or 50 mm fan.
i dont know about anyone else, but ALL of the 965 and 975 chipsets should require a fan on them to keep them cool.
even the P5W DH with its heatpipe can get pretty toasty. mine did. so i thru a little fan on it.
hot glue does wonders for those quick fittings of fans onto goofy spots lol
What about this passive cooler from Zalman, some reviews say it cools better than the cheap HS&F that normally comes on a Northbridge
http://www.pccasegear.com/prod3895.htm
maybe, but you would still need decent airflow going through it
Finally managed to get Easy Tune to work...
how hot is too hot for these chips?
Me needs a NB fan...
There are plenty of reviews on Google. IMO, the fan is not loud at all. It has three speeds to accommodate everyone's tastes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
looks like this will be the home for my conroe
:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
How hot is too hot though?
humm, put a steack on it, when it smokes it's a little too much :D
:slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
;)
I need better cooling for sure....
What cooling are you on?
Seriously 70° full is the max for me.
I used Gigabyte 3D rocket cooler 2.
Holy poop on a stick!!! Something is seriously strange here!
I installed a coolermaster hyper48 on my DS3 and the fan that comes with it is a low noise fan (normally @ 1400 rpm or so)
BUT i went into the bios (F3) and disabled smart fan control
Now it it running at 4000 rpm, and its really loud :eek:
I didnt even know this fan was capable of such speeds!!
What on earth is going on??
yeah it's really loud compared to before because it's a variable speed fan. When I was running the fan on amd it only used 3 pins so I think it was always running at minimum speedQuote:
Originally Posted by oohms
I'm running a XP90C and the fan from the Hyper48 and set fan speed in easytune to 1400rpm
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enprime-03.jpg
not bad for the vCore and cooling me thinks :)
I'm gonna test it higher now!!
:woot:
Have you tested your max fsb with 6x multi ?
nice resultQuote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
did you start at that fsb from bios or easytune?
as when I use easytune, orthos SP2004 only displays my original speed I booted off bios at
Can't be bothered to ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
I just wanna see the highest I can prime at ;)
@ ArcTan, No I booted at 440 x 7 with no problems. I don't like clocking from withing windows...
:toast:
Same vCore, 450 x 7 no problem:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enprime-05.jpg
Nice results but why is cpu rpm in hardware monitor 0 if the cpu temp is reading 60? Also why still stock cooled?
Very nice K.I.T.T.! Bootable and stable at 450FSB awsome! Keeping pushing it! I would'nt raise vcore anymore though. Try switching to 6x multi.
460 MHz FSB, no - go even with 6x multi :(
455 x 7 seems OK though....
I will try harder :)
EDIT:
Does anyone know the vCore measure point for DMM? This thing droops quite heavily :stick:
I've tried my 6300 with stock vcore 445FSB ok, not more prime stable.
holy crap KITT we need to get you some better cpu cooling... 65 deg ?!! damn... too hot.. especially for such low volts
And that`s only Prime.
S&M will toast that chip :p:
I'm trying to decide between the P5B Deluxe and a DS3 or a DS4.
DS4 and P5B are the same price here, but if the DS3 is just as good a board, I'd rather save the money. :)
What I wanna ask is whether a HR-05 would fit onto the NB. I have one right now on my old S478 mobo and I would like to continue using it if I get a 775 mobo that doesn't use some heatpipe system. TR's website hasn't listed these new 965 mobos on their compatibility list yet.
Stock cooling ftw heh...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooper
:stick:
a mate is lending me a gigabyte gcooler pro, so that should help :)
d@rkn1ko isn't the E6600 multiplier 9x?
too hot :( in france :(
Whats the consensus on the best Northbridge cooler for this board?
KITT - Is the vdroop horrible or manageable?
Set at 1.3815v in BIOS and under load, easy tune reports 1.34v, and CPU-z reports 1.328v....Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottFern
I think CPU-z is more accurate...
It's not horrible...but it's not that good either....
It's an ES, this has been answered several times.Quote:
Originally Posted by BottomsUp
I just test the max fsb for the moment :toast:
anyone know whats the max FSB stable with DS3 and Conroe E6600 using multi x9 ???Quote:
Originally Posted by d@rkn1ko
thnks
That would be nice to know as I getting the E6600 too.Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
400 FSB
jesus guys you peeps need to read thru these threads instead of going to the last post and asking these things this sh|t has been answered dozens of times already in 5 different threads
and if you read you'll learn a thing or two about this board and how to set it up with various cpu's.
yeh , we already saw that with low Multi´s (x6,x7,x8) the DS3 can run high´s FSB , but we also know that with multi x9 they are not so good , so anyone can see what the Max FSB stable with a Conroe E6600 and multi x9 ??? I apreciate , thnks again.Quote:
Originally Posted by badboy
I think it's fair to say that 450 x 7 is stable:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...enprime-07.jpg
Although temps are starting to get VERY hot. Almost dangerous.... (notice the warning sign)
With a relatively low vCore (~0.05 above stock), You can see why i hate stock cooling :rolleyes:
Are you guys using any chipset cooling or do you have the stock one with fans blowing on it?
it has all been said in the last 3 pages ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by celerity
I am also about to order a e6400 and this mobo :)
But because my system still user ddr1 mem and an agp card i need to get some new ram and another videocard too.. and i'll just add a new harddisk too while i'm at it...
in other words; triple_A is gonna be broke for the next couple of months :cool:
nice i wonder how my water will do.Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
Any chance of comparing the overclocking abilities of the DS3 vs P5W K.I.T.T.?
ie: Max FSB
Its seems the mobo is not the limiting factor, but the CPU is. So with higher multipliers you begin to run into problems with the core of the chip itself handling the high total frequency.Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
Most likely Cooling will be the limiting factor here and not mobo FSB speeds.
seems my board's max is around 490fsb Super PI 1M
that's with stock vcore air cooled
mch +0.1v
vdimm 2.4v 4-4-4-12 1:1
can probably take a screenshot at 495-500 fsb but that seems to be about it
This is with a E6300 and 7x multi
ArcTan, what's your max FSB when running prime stable? Thanks
I've only tried 461x7 small fft's for about 12 hours though no screeniesQuote:
Originally Posted by nop
Thanks ArcTan. 3.227 is very good for me. BTW, yours E6300's ES,so around 3.0-3.1 should be achieved by retail one...??
hey misteroadster did you ask gigabyte to give us 4:3 divider........... :)
better to wait for retail cpu's before we can say that's true. I can hit my boards limit before I even have to increase my vcore from stockQuote:
Originally Posted by nop
This is interesting, Conroe not as dependant on dual channel as the Pentium 4
http://www.matbe.com/actualites/1389...-dual-channel/